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Unfortunately, he never had a brain or a conscience

Posted By: nm on 2009-01-16
In Reply to: So untrue and so unfair. Disagree with his policies, - but he is not "delusional" -and has a heart.

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Have they no conscience?
 Congress Helps Self to $3,100 Pay Raise
    By David Espo
    The Associated Press

    Friday 18 November 2005

    Washington - The Republican-controlled Congress helped itself to a $3,100 pay raise on Friday, then postponed work on bills to curb spending on social programs and cut taxes in favor of a two-week vacation.

    In the final hours of a tumultuous week in the Capitol, Democrats erupted in fury when House GOP leaders maneuvered toward a politically-charged vote - and swift rejection - of one war critic's call for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. You guys are pathetic, pathetic, Massachusetts Rep. Martin Meehan yelled across a noisy hall at Republicans.

    On another major issue, a renewal of the Patriot Act remained in limbo as an unlikely coalition of liberal Democrats and conservative Republicans sought curbs on the powers given law enforcement in the troubled first days after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

    Both the House and Senate were in session after midnight Thursday, working on the tax and deficit-cutting bills at the heart of the GOP agenda, before returning to work a few hours later.

    What it does is start to turn down the escalating costs ... for our children and our grandchildren. One of the things that we cannot leave to that next generation is a huge deficit that they can't afford, House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., said after enactment of a $50 billion deficit-reduction bill.

    Democrats dissented, with one eye on the 2006 elections.

    The Republicans are taking food out of the mouths of children to give tax cuts to America's wealthiest. This is not a statement of America's values, said the Democratic leader, Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California. Democrats believe that together, America can do better, she said, invoking the party's new campaign slogan.

    The cost-of-living increase for members of Congress - which will put pay for the rank and file at an estimated $165,200 a year - marked a brief truce in the pitched political battles that have flared in recent weeks on the war and domestic issues.

    So much so that the issue was not mentioned on the floor of either the House or Senate as lawmakers worked on legislation whose passage will assure bigger paychecks.

    Lawmakers automatically receive a cost of living increase each year, unless Congress votes to block it. By tradition, critics have tried to block increases by attaching a provision to the legislation that provides funding for the Treasury Department. One such attempt succeeded in the Senate earlier in the year, but the provision was omitted from the compromise measure moved toward final approval.

    The overall bill provided $140 billion for transportation, housing and other programs. It cleared the House on a vote of 392-31. Senate passage was by voice vote.

    Pay raise harmony aside, Republicans spent the day celebrating a party-line, post-midnight vote in which the House cleared legislation to reduce deficits by $50 billion over five years. The vote was 217-215, with all the Democrats who voted in opposition, along with 14 GOP rebels.

    Acting Majority Leader Roy Blunt of Missouri said Republicans would make their tax cut bill the top item on the agenda when lawmakers return to the Capitol in December.

    The House-passed measure attacks deficits by limiting spending for the first time in a decade on Medicaid, food stamps, student loans and other benefit programs that normally rise with inflation and eligibility.

    The House GOP leadership had hoped to clear the measure a week ago. It was forced to retreat when Republican moderates rebelled, even after Hastert agreed to strip out a controversial proposal to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling.

    The Senate-passed companion measure calls for less deficit reduction, $35 billion over five years, but includes the ANWR provision.

    The differences are expected to make it difficult for the House and Senate to reach a compromise by year's end, particularly since Republicans can't count on any Democratic support.

    The tax bill presents difficulties of its own for a GOP majority struggling to translate last fall's election gains into this year's legislative achievements.

    The Senate cleared a measure after 1:30 a.m. that calls for $60 billion in cuts over five years.

    The measure drew bipartisan support, passing on a vote of 64-33. Its provisions would continue a series of existing tax breaks that otherwise will expire, and shelters 14 million upper middle-income families from higher taxes.

    The White House has threatened a veto, citing a provision that raises taxes on oil companies.

    The House has yet to pass a companion measure. When it does, the tax on oil companies is unlikely to be included, and it is likely to be jettisoned before a compromise measure reaches the White House.

    Hastert said Republicans want to make sure that we support our troops that are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan ... a lot of people say: Look, this is a tough time, we just ought to pull out and leave. We pull out and leave, we strand an effort to make sure that we can tamp down terrorism, to tamp down a dictatorship, that we can stabilize an area in the Middle East, he added.

    GOP aides conceded the last-minute maneuver was designed to put Democrats in a political squeeze - voting for withdrawal and exposing themselves to attacks from the White House, or voting against it and risk angering the voters that polls show want an end to the conflict.

    Democrats angrily attacked the GOP move, then lined up with Republicans to vote against a troop withdrawal in hopes of draining the issue of its political significance. The vote was 403-3 against the measure.

    Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., called the measure a piece of garbage and an attack on Rep. John Murtha. The Pennsylvania Democrat, a decorated veteran and respected congressional voice on military matters, said Thursday it was time for the troops to come home.

    House and Senate negotiators announced a tentative agreement earlier in the week to pass a seven-year extension of the Patriot Act. Key senators lawmakers involved in the talks balked at the terms, and officials said they would resume compromise efforts when Congress returns to work in December.


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Vote your conscience, then. If you are so sure you are right...
why do you get so angry? It is infanticide when you allow a child who survives abortion to die. Which Obama voted for twice. If your conscience tells you that is fine, so be it. If referring to the baby as a blob of tissue makes it okay with your conscience, so be it. No need to get angry about it.
My conscience tells me that it is murder.....sm
and that is even apart from what my religious beliefs tell me. I believe in life at the moment of conception as I stated in my post above. I won't go into all that again.

As far as amounts and agencies and how monies from my taxes and every one else's taxes are distributed to help provide medical care for those who receive free (to them) medical care, of course I can't provide that. I am not privy to where each of my tax dollars go and how much of it is spent on various government agencies or governmental salaries, etc., and neither do you. Funny, though, you're not asking Obama to produce his birth certificate or from whom he received campaign contributions, huh.
Good for you for voting your conscience.
Thank you for your kind words.  We can disagree without being disagreeable.  I still believe that we can pull through this mess with a lot of time and effort.  All I'm asking is to give him a chance.   
Evidently, some rich folks have a conscience
for the sake of COUNTRY FIRST.
My conscience is my guide. Personally, I thnk

we should have stayed out of Irag and minded our own business.I think we need to work on cleaning up America before we start on other countries.   I don't like the fact that innocent men, wome and children were and are being killed.  I stated that he is the lesser of 2 evils and I am following my conscience. 


I gotta wonder how long that "right of conscience..."
thing would last if someone refused to prescribe Viagra or Cialis or refuse to treat a "victim" in the ER who's had a "problem" for more than four hours (as advertised/warned on TV).
Sounds like a fine man voting his conscience, sort of like
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And one brain..........mn
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OMG! ! ! Have you ever been brain-
washed. Or, either you are JTBB posting under still another moniker, which is very likely! These certainly sound like some of her childish name callings. Grow up for heavens sake! You are just another Fox hater because you know cannot stand the fact that they present the truth to people and are not ashamed to do so.
You think you got your brain all by yourself? WOW....
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brain study
I read a study where they did brain scans on democrats and republicans and while scanning showed pictures of war.  The republican brains lit up on the opposite side than the democrat brains.  So, the study surmised that just maybe our brains were built to work differently and that could be why we have a take on things so radically differently.  I will try to find the article and post the net address.
If the scarecrow had a brain (sm)
they would be smart enough to know that not everyone being paid an hourly wage less than the minimum wage is EARNING lessing than minimum wage. Or are they so cheap they've never left a tip?
If they had a brain they also would have checked their facts before they posted Al Franken's butt talk.
And if it didn't have a brain, it would be

Bush brain

This is how his mind works: How am I supposed to evacuate New Orleans. 


His mind says, I KNOW ROW VERSUS WADE, I believe I heard that somewhere.


 


What an idiot, what a jerk.  He took responsibility for this mess, did not have enough balls to mention Iraq.  The saddest thing is he has several extreme right believing him.  I have nothing against conservative right, just extreme right.  Hey, I am born again.  I am not into organized religion, I am just into the teachings of Jesus Christ.  I have strong beliefs, but this administration has decided we should all be organized religion.  There has to be, has to be, a separation of church and state, that is where this idiot went wrong.  Yes, things are different, kids cannot pray in schools or do the pledge of allegiance, but anyone with a mind knows you can pray silently or do anything silently.  Prob is they want it crammed down everyones throat.  I have enough of a relationship with my God, I can pray anywhere, privately, do not have to do it like a marter with everyone looking on, it loses its power that way.


If you had a brain, you'd have a clue. sm
Unfortunately, you don't have either.  And you are dangerous. You put us all at risk.  Especially the military you PRETEND to support.  And it is a pretense.  We all know it.  Cowards.  You are all cowards.
Yes, the brain is evil.
I don't know what else you could call it. Just the fact that Bush relies on a man with Rove's kind of history says all there is to say about this administration - the addition of the rest of the Nixon-era chickenhawks is icing on that sh**cake. It's creepy beyond belief how some Bush supporters actually applaud that kind of dirty business and call it political saavy. Let's call it what it really is - just plain amoral and reprehensible sociopathic behavior.
Fox is #1 among the BRAIN DEAD
LOL - studies have proven FOX viewers to be significantly LESS informed about current events than ANY of the other networks (though they are all back)...

FOX tells the brain-dead WHAT THEY WANT to hear -
THEY DISTORT, YOU REPEAT.

Hey, I think I hear Bill O'LIEly calling you!

Yes I have a heart and a brain
which are 2 things you lack.  If you were raped by your father would you have the baby?  Take a walk (not a ride) through the homeless or less than privledged areas in your community.  Get a grip lady - deal with reality and stop turning away every time you see someone who has alot less than you.  It's not murder you jack a-hole!
have a brain. Well, nevermind.. nm
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While you're at it, get a brain!
I guess that's why you and you're kind hate Hillary Clinton, because you're JEALOUS of her. What a good argument.
Please grow a brain. Look up what the
I was not alluding to real trains hitting each other, okay?

Taking everything you read literally is the best way I know of to be brainwashed, cheated, fooled, hoodwinked, taken advantage of, screwed, you name it.

What I alluded to is that I don't want MY tax dollars, or anyone ELSE's, bailing out a bunch of crooks who STOLE money from a bunch of people, sold 'em bad loans, etc., and got RICH BEYOND ANYONE'S WILDEST DREAMS by doing so.

Wall Street & Corporate America have turned into one giant con-man's shell-game, and it's about time there was a major shakeout and restructuring. Would it be difficult in the short-run? You bet. (Like it isn't already?) But in the long-run, if the system were reinvented and rebuilt, it might come out a lot better in the end.
Thank you.....nice to know someone has a brain
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Do you have a brain and just choose not to use it?
Are you seriously denying that Obama began his political career in the living room of an infamous domestic terrorist?

NObody's that stupid, gourdpainter. Not even you!
Did you brain even process what I just said?...sm
It does not matter if he was born on Mars or in a spaceship, his mother was an American citizen when he was born and was until the day she died. That makes him a natural-born American citizen and eligible to run for president. Do I need to repeat myself again? What is it that you do not understand?
Thank you! That is the problem. Using a brain is
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sorry, my little brain got confused by all the
If my grandma, mother, etc died today, I wouldn't say any of those things because I would be with my family grieving the loss.  Obviously, Obama doesn't care that much or he'd be there with his family. 
Why do I have this image here of that brain-
A narrow-minded believer in fantasy until the bitter end.
And some of us with a full brain knows this is (sm)

also about Israel.


From another Republican under the Reagan Administration, Paul Craig Roberts:  http://www.vdare.com/roberts/090508_hate_crime.htm


Since the passage of the Global Anti-Semitism Review Act in 2004, the US Department of State is required to monitor anti-Semitism worldwide.  The State Department is not required to monitor anti-Americanism or sentiments against Christians, Muslims or Arabs.  Thus, the act created a specially protected class worthy of careful monitoring by the US Department of State of negative sentiments expressed against Jews.


In order to monitor anti-Semitism, the term must be defined.  The definition is subjective and will be widely, rather than narrowly, interpreted. 


The State Department has come up with its attempt.  The State Department’s approach could include any truthful statements about Israel and its behavior toward the Palestinians that the Israeli government or AIPAC or the Anti-Defamation League would deny or contest.  


Anti-Semitic speech can be interpreted as inciting hatred.  Inciting hatred can be interpreted to be a violent act.  “Excessive” criticism of Israel is a subjective, indefinable concept that can be used to determine anti-semitic speech.  It is easy to conflate “excessive” with “strong”


Thus, demands that Israel be held accountable for war crimes committed in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, or elsewhere become acts of the “hate crime” of anti-semitism.  


are you o.k? Or did your UTI reach your brain?....nm
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I had hoped SOME of them had a brain
This is a disaster. Lets hope the Senate has some sense.
brain "washed" in the blood
you are beyond reason. This is the nature of brainwashing.



If you had a grain of brain you would not be laughing..s/m
The comparison with a poodle is actually an insult.
But you do not get it, do you?

Remember, when Blair was called 'the poodle of Bush'?

Or did you never hear about this? It's politics.

LMAO !! But you better stop laughing.
Most of us with half a brain already knew this

Hate crimes bill.....what a joke it is in the first place, but most people who aren't on the homosexual bandwagon already knew that.  Now, at least a homosexual activist gets it!!


 


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=531184


 


 


OMG, finally a poster with a BRAIN, THANKS..NM
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AHEM - MY BABY HAD NO BRAIN. sm
It was totally 100% incompatible with life, so don't give me that bull**t about the health vs murder argument.

You are a cold-hearted SOB if you think I aborted for any other reason.
You two are....peas in a pod....twins joined at the brain....
actually more like a ventriloquist and his buddy. Just not sure which one's hand is up which one's back. "I second that." "Oh I just got goose bumps." lol. Gotta love you two. So entertaining. Thank you! :)
Well I have a brain and I'm not voting for McCain. That to me is a no brainer.
I guess I could go and pick out all the negatives about John McCain (there are plenty) while putting Obama on a pedestal and parading him around as though he is the second coming of Christ. For pete's sake. Looks like it took no brains to write this one.
More clueless brain death from fringe.
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Before opening mouth - engage brain.
You're calling Palin an "under-educated butt?"

And your great accompishment is that you know how to type on a message board? What a maroon!

Please feel free to exit the country when McCain/Palin win. You and your tiny little mind will not be missed.


It's called your brain. It's somewhere in that deep skull (nm)
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oops...sorry, musta had a brain freeze.....sorry....:-)

You're the one who's brain dead, SirPercy. Haven't you been
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Why on earth? Small person, tiny brain, no power,
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Not only do I have a thicker skin - I also have a FULLY DEVELOPED brain-what a concept!!

Patty: this baby hadmore than health problems, it had NO brain!...nm
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This is just ridiculous and pathetic, doming out of the brain of a 4th grader, not the teacher's!
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