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So untrue and so unfair. Disagree with his policies,

Posted By: but he is not "delusional" -and has a heart. on 2009-01-16
In Reply to: You really do not get it, do you? - Katie

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U.S. Spies on Americans who disagree with Bush policies









I guess this explains who Bush's real enemies are, and it has nothing to do with terrorism (unless you're the innocent American being targeted).


Posted on Fri, Jan. 20, 2006


U.S. accused of spying on those who disagree with Bush policies


South Florida Sun-Sentinel

While the White House defended domestic surveillance as a safeguard against terrorism, a Florida peace activist and several Democrats in Congress accused the Bush administration on Friday of spying on Americans who disagree with President Bush's policies.

Richard Hersh, of Boca Raton, Fla., director of Truth Project Inc. of Palm Beach County, told an ad hoc panel of House Democrats that his group and others in South Florida have been infiltrated and spied upon despite having no connections to terrorists.


Agents rummaged through the trash, snooped into e-mails, packed Web sites and listened in on phone conversations, Hersh charged. We know that address books and activist meeting lists have disappeared.


The Truth Project gained national attention when NBC News reported last month that it was described as a credible threat in a database of suspicious activity compiled by the Pentagon's Talon program. The listing cited the group's gathering a year ago at a Quaker meeting house in Lake Worth, Fla., to talk about ways to counter military recruitment at high schools.


Talon is separate from the controversial domestic-surveillance program conducted by the National Security Agency. Bush has acknowledged signing orders that allow the NSA to eavesdrop without the usual court warrants, prompting an outcry from many in Congress.


Bush plans to tour the NSA on Wednesday as part of a campaign to defend his handling of the program.


This is a critical tool that helps us save lives and prevent attacks, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said on Friday. It is limited and targeted to al-Qaida communications, with the focus being on detection and prevention.


The Defense Department's Talon program collects data from a wide variety of sources, including military personnel and private citizens, Pentagon spokesman Greg Hicks said.


They are unfiltered dots of information about perceived threats, Hicks said. An analyst will look at that information. And what we are trying to do is connect the dots before the next major attack.


To Hersh and some members of Congress, the warrant-less surveillance and Talon are all a part of domestic-spying operations that threaten civil liberties of average Americans and put dissenters under a cloud of suspicion.


Neither you nor anybody in that (Quaker) church had anything to do with terrorism, said Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Fla. The fact is, the Truth Project may have a philosophy that is adverse to the political philosophy and goals of the president of the United States. And as a result of that different philosophy, the president and the secretary of defense ordered that your group be spied upon.


There should not be a single American who today remains confident that it couldn't happen to them.









Very untrue colors
We don't "win elections"?  Totally untrue.  If that were true there would be no democrats currently or ever in office.  Try lying about something that is harder to disprove.  Bush is very good at it.
Oh, my dear, that is so untrue.

General Giap of the North Vietnamese army wrote his memoirs after the war.  He posted that the antiwar movement in the United States gave the North Vietnamese hope after Tet, when they were decimated and ready to surrender.  It gave them hope, prolonged the war, and eventually led to our precipitous departure.  No, I am afraid you are wrong about your facts.  Here's the post from the 1st Cav. 


Tet Offensive -- Monica
what are the cause and effects of the TET offensive? and who won this campaign? I don't really get this event! can someone tell me the story in a easier version?  I am in the 9th Grade. Monica,   


Here is an answer to a very complex question.  The Tet Offensive of 1968 was an initiative of the North Vietnam Army to have the civilian population of South Vietnam join them in their offensive and efforts to overthrow the South Vietnam Government, forcing the withdrawal of the United States Armed Forces.  


The Tet Offensive of 1968 was conceived by General Giap, commander of the North Vietnam Army and his staff.  General Giap earlier in his career planned and executed the battle at Dien Bien Phu which drove the French out of Vietnam in 1954.  During the battle of Dien Bien Phu, General Giap stated  he was willing to lose 10 men for every 1 enemy soldier killed, which indicated that a person's life in Vietnam was cheap.

By the end of 1966, North Vietnam had suffered large causalities in manpower and supplies through the bombing of the North and the fighting in the South. They consider the war was at a stalemate. North Vietnam would need a major victory if they would continue on with the war. Thus the planning for what is known as the Tet Offensive began with General Giap (Commanding General of the North Vietnam Army) and his staff.


The battle of Khe Sanh (Jan. 21, 1968) was the prelude to the Tet Offensive of January 31, 1968.  The battle at Khe Sanh was similar to that of Dien Bien Phu in which the Vietnamese had surrounded their enemy and cut off all land routes for supplies and evacuation.  Khe Sanh had two objectives besides the obvious objective in defeating the Marines.



1. Diversionary tactic to draw American attention away from the cities of South Vietnam and more towards Khe Sanh.


2. Remind the people of South Vietnam of another battle that took place 14 years earlier at Dien Bien Phu, which would encourage South Vietnamese to join the VC in throwing out the Americans as they did with the French.


The North Vietnamese Army fought the battle at Khe Sanh and the National Liberation Front (VC) fought the Tet Offensive, which attacked the cities and provinces throughout South Vietnam.  



It should be noted that NVA units who were not participating in the Khe Sanh siege supported the VC in their attacks on the cities during the Tet Offensive.  






National Liberation Front - (Also Known As) Viet Cong or VC were comprised of South Vietnamese civilians and North Vietnamese advisors who lived in the cities and villages throughout South Vietnam.  They were part of the North Vietnamese forces in reuniting the two countries as one. 

A cease-fire began on January 30, 1968 for the Vietnamese new year of Tet, which falls on the first new moon of January. On January 31, 1968 the Viet Cong broke their cease-fire and attacked many cities and provinces throughout South Vietnam. In Saigon, a small number  of VC (19) were able to reach the American Embassy grounds, but did not gain entry into the embassy itself.


In the Northern part of South Vietnam, the city of Hue was taken over by the V.C. and executions of city officials and their families took place.  The initial reporting indicated the number of people executed was in the thousands (2,300 persons executed in and around Hue during Tet 68 - Time Magazine 31 Oct 69).


Saigon was the center for most if not all of the news agencies that were covering the war in South Vietnam.  Tet offensive of 1968 was the first time, during the war, that actual street fighting took place in the major cities.  Rear support personnel and MP’s did the initial fighting by American troops until support from infantry and armor could arrive. These men did an outstanding job in defending the cities, airfields and bases along with the embassy. The news media were able to capture this street fighting on tape in addition to the attack on the American Embassy. This new offensive was immediately brought into the homes of American families through reporting by television and the press. The sensationalism of this reporting brought forth a misrepresentation of the actual facts that took place during the Tet Offensive of 1968. The reports led the American people to think that we were losing the war in Vietnam and that the Tet Offensive was a major victory for North Vietnam. This was not the case. The VC suffered such high casualties that they were no longer considered a fighting force and their ranks would have to be replaced by North Vietnamese regulars. The civilian population of South Vietnam was indifferent to both the current regime in South Vietnam and the Viet Cong. The civilian population, for the most part, did not join with the VC during the Tet Offensive.


The Wall Street Journal published an interview with Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army and received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975. During the interview Mr. Tin was asked if the American antiwar movement was important to Hanoi's victory. Mr. Tin responded It was essential to our strategy, referring to the war being fought on two fronts, the Vietnam battlefield and back home in America through the antiwar movement on college campuses and in the city streets. He further stated the North Vietnamese leadership listened to the American evening news broadcasts to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi made by persons such as Jane Fonda, former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and various church ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. Mr. Tin surmised, America lost because of its democracy; through dissent and protest it lost the ability to mobilize a will to win. Mr. Tin further advised that General Vo Nguyen Giap (Commanding General of the North Vietnam Army) had advised him the 1968 Tet Offensive had been a defeat.


The military defeat of North Vietnam after the Tet Offensive of 1968 became a political victory for North Vietnam because of anti-war demonstrations and the sensationalism of the news media.   The North Vietnamese interpreted the U.S. reaction to these events as the weakening of America's resolve to win the war.   The North Vietnamese believed that victory could be theirs, if they stayed their course.


From 1969 until the end of the war, over 20,000 American soldiers lost their lives in a war that the United States did not have the resolve to win.  The sensationalism by the American news media and the anti-war protests following the 1968 Tet Offensive gave hope to Communist North Vietnam, strengthening their belief that their will to succeed was greater than ours.  Instead of seeking a successful resolution at the Paris Peace Conference following the disastrous defeat of the 1968 Tet Offensive, they employed delay tactics as another tool to inflame U.S. politics.  This delaying tactic spurned further anti-war demonstrations.  Those who sensationalized their reporting of the war and those who supported anti-war demonstrations are guilty of giving our enemy hope. Because of their actions, they must share partial responsibility for those 20,000 + Americans deaths. 


We won the war on the battlefield but lost it back home on the college campuses and in the city streets.


I seriously doubt it is untrue.
Emotions are running way too high, especially in the Republican rallies, and I DO watch them.  If ever there was a plant in the audience it was the black man that stood up and said, "please, sir, I'm begging you....."  Notice Mc went up and hugged him and then addressed the poor woman who was "scared" of Obama because he was a terrorist.  Anyone remember Mccain saying, "no, no maam, he's not."  Do any of you republicans ever pay attention? 
Looks like the "kill em" statement is untrue

I'll attach the link, but in summary the Secret Service said the "kill em" allegation is unfounded.


News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.


Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.


How much more is the Obama campaign going to invent.  First they try to make it about race when its not.  Now they try to say someone said "kill em" when Obama's name in mentioned yet nobody heard it.


It sure is getting nasty.


This is so totally untrue. How can you just make things up like that? NM

Spew venom? Because I post rebuttals to untrue...
information or present the other side? Don't think I have called anyone trailer trash or wished anyone dead lately, which Dems have done toward me on this board. Being Independent means exactly that...not affiliated with any party. It does not remove the right to have opinions. This is a democracy, no matter how much the democrats would like to change that.

Which information that I have posted is false?

If you are truly an Independent, you would know that Fox News is the only place a conservative has to go to get anything of the conservative viewpoint in cable or broadcast news. THe others are in the pockets of liberals/Democrats and have been for years. Got a news flash for you...just because it appears on Fox does not make it untrue and just because it appears on MSNBC does not make it true.

What do the Dems post here that they have verified as 100% true? But I don't see you taking them to task.

Yes, I am truly an independent. I have been both. I have voted Democrat, but not in many years. When they took the hard left, they left me. Then I voted and was a member of Republican party. When they started leaving their conservative roots, they left me. So yes, I am an Independent. Independent of ANY party. No RNC or DNC tells me what to do or what to think.
That's a little unfair
don't you think. There are always people who threaten on both sides--they are the far extremes of any political group. No one group holds a monopoly on threats. Please try to think about this objectively.
Unfair?

You seem to be an intelligent person so would you please explain to me why my opinion is unfair?  She never removed her Hollywood, or beauty queen might be a better description, smile.  I do not think this is the time or place for the "oh gee, oh gosh, doggone it" folksiness.   Give me at least one good point that she made about specifically what she and McCain would do if elected.  Oh yeah, I know, she's a soccer mom and she has a handicapped child.  Well, Bidin had a more compelling story on that, at least for me!  Sheesh?  You have your opinion, I have mine.  Doesn't matter if we happen to agree or not.  I'm not going to "sheesh" you.  I DO NOT want to see Palin in the position of Vice-President nor do I want to see McCain in the White House.  If picking her as his running mate, after meeting her only briefly, is an example (and it is) of his judgment capabilities then again, in my opinioin, we can expect more bad judgment on crucial issues from him.


I have serious issues with Obama.  Again, with his radical, racist church affilitation and there is no doubt in my mind about that.  I DO NOT believe he is muslim or has leanings toward muslimism.  Then there is the issue of his wife, who is for the first time proud of her country.  There is no doubt in my mind that she said what she meant and meant what she said.  That ought to tell us something. I am not concerned whether he wears a flag lapel pin or not.  That's nothing  more than show and tell anyway, a terrorist could wear a lapel pin.


What does concern me is that it is my belief that this Wall Street failure was orchestrated, probably by the Democrats, to give them an advantage.  Furthermore, I fully expect the Republicans to retaliate.  What will it be?  Another terrorist attack or maybe just a video released at an opportune time to remind us that bin Laden may rear his ugly head at any moments and McCain is just the person who could deal with him?


After the debate I feel comfortable with Joe Biden.  Perhaps I am wrong.  Time will tell.  Either Obama will win and, like John Kerry, we'll never know what kind of president John McCain would  have been or McCain  will win and there'll be no doubt.  The last 2 elections I voted AGAINST George W. Bush.  Seems I was right but then again, we don't know what kind of pres. John Kerry would have been. I don't see how he could possibly have been worse than G. W. Bush.


Folks, we need to get over the Republican/Democrat thing and realize our country is in SERIOUS trouble.  Personally I don't think it will make much difference which of them is elected.  We need to write letters, make phone calls or do whatever is necessary to tell these politicians they WILL do their job and pay attention to the WILL OF THE PEOPLE.  I talked yesterday with a lady in my representative's office locally.  I told her that I was outraged about the Wall Street bail-out.  She said they had had very few calls that were in favor of it but the representative (Republican) voted for it because he was worried about people on fixed incomes.  HA!  I told her I am such a person.  We risk losing our secure retirement but a bail out is not going to help us...the little people on fixed incomes.  It will make the rich richer and destroy our children and grandchildren's future. Next will be another conglomerate that absolutely requires bail-out.  Maybe it will be Wal-Mart, the retail giant that we just couldn't live without?


Sorry for the rant but IMHO we have gotten in this mess because the majority of voters can't see past the Democrat/Republican affilitation!!!!


 


I think it's unfair to say (sm)
that liberals support a woman's right to choose. I'm about as conservative as you can get and I believe abortion should be nobody's business but the woman having one and the doctor performing it.

While I don't agree with abortion and would never personally have one, I don't believe in villifying those that do.

Last summer in my town, there were a group of pro-lifers that paraded up and down the main drag in town with posters showing what aborted babies looked like - imagine driving down that street with your 8-year-old son like I did, trying your best to ignore it and hope he did too.

This demonstration made me wonder if any of those people had ever offered thier services to a pregnant woman considering an abortion. They could easily offer baby-sitting services while the girl finished school or went to work, give them rides to the doctor's office during the pregnancy, be a friend - someone to talk to. I'm pretty sure they've never done any of that (only because I knew most of them) and I think that's sad - they probably would prevent more abortions that way than screaming "baby killer" at those same women.
That's an unfair characterization and I think you know that...
sheesh. nm.
I think that's a really unfair statement.
To say that we are afraid of him because he's black? I personally don't care what color he is as long as he does his job for the good of America instead of the good of himself, like too many other "leaders" in Washington.

I'm afraid because I don't think his bailout plan is going to work. I'm afriad that instead of surrounding himself with intelligent people, he's surrounding himself with crooks (Geithner). And I'm afrid that there are too many people up on the hill that are going to make life impossible for him when he actually has a plan that will work (and I'm not just talking about republicans - there are now fellow democrats that are voicing concern). THAT'S what I'm afriad of.

I agree that there's a lot of hate on this board, but that's indicative of America - there are some very narrow-minded people in this country and many that just aren't happy unless their side wins. But to say that we're afraid of him because he's black is just utter nonsense, at least for the majority, so please don't lump us all into the same category.
Totally unfair. Fox is the only unbiased
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What an unfair slam against this woman.
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That is unfair. You have no idea what people do...
for their fellow man. Christians don't need to have the government extract money from them to fund programs...there are faith-based organizations all over this country, in fact all over the world who take care of their fellow man. Perhaps if more liberals would do the same, there would not be a need for the government to extract money for programs. Put your money where your mouth is.
No, it wasn't right. It's unfair, & illegal.

The robot comment was unfair....
I do not understand people's penchant for ridicule. I just don't get that kind of attitude. If you want to have a political opinion, fine; but do you have to personalize it?

Frankly, I was happy to see her smile. She is still excited about public service. She WANTS to help. She still has that zeal. Did you look at him? Only smiled at HER, looked at the moderator or the press instead of the camera. SHE was talking to ME. HE was trying to score points.

With all due respect, I seriously doubt he picked her after having only met her briefly. That is pure supposition on your part.

If you had been listening to her with an open mind instead of dissing the way she speaks...and frankly, friend, I come from a folksy part of the country and am folksy myself and being folksy does not indicate ignorance. I am tired of people who talk a good fight. I would like to see something other than Washington politics as usual...which Joe Biden is the poster boy for.

As I said, I do not ascribe to nor am I ruled by a political party. This will be the first time in my voting life I have EVER voted a straight anything ticket, and it is darned sure going to be Republican. Won't be in any way responsible for an Obama presidency with a democrat majority to go with it. Let me repeat...NO WAY, NO HOW. We may be circling the drain now...an Obama presidency will send us right on down the toilet.


Totally unfair. Bush is the only one trying
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That's not only not true, but completely unfair.
You can't say that everyone on the right defends these people. Who have you heard defend this guy?

And saying that those extremists are the base of the pub party? That's like saying Bill Ayers is the base of the dem party.

Once again, you can't lump all pubs together as the party of hate.
his policies are most

definitely in the race as McCain agrees with his polices over 90% and has announced to plan to change any of those policies.


 


 


 


I don't support all the policies

coming from this administration.   Do I think Bush is a good president, yes!   Do I think he's great?  No, because, personally, he's not been conservative enough for me. To me, Ronald Reagan was great.  He was tough, but he still made people like him.   Bush not been tough enough on some issues.....however, that's never here or there.  I have always freely said that I don't agree with everything coming from the Republican party.  I'm a conservative first, Republican second, but as the days go on I am becoming more and more a Libertarian.  I will still vote Republican, because I think that's where my vote has the most value, but if the Libertarian movement becomes more of a contender, believe me, I'm going to catch that wave.  


I said all that to say this.....I never generalized when it came to Democrats when it came to Clinton in office, because, being from the South where there are still a lot of old Southern Democrats (and, gasp, I was one for several years believe it or not...) I knew all Democrats did not stand behind some of the Clinton policies.  There were some Clinton policies I did like, although as a presidential role model he drug the office of president through the mud.....


To me it seems that liberals are all or nothing in hating Bush, but if there are some liberals out that who like Bush speak up and prove that generalization wrong 


It is not failed policies.
You can promote those programs, but in this culture, sex-saturated media, desensitization to the point of sex is just an expression and you don't even have to like each other, multiple partners, the whole 9 yards. No program is going to work at this point. Birth control information is out there. How, in this culture, could you even say abstinence with a straight face? Doesn't mean I don't think it should be mentioned, because if it causes 1 or 2 kids not to engage in premarital sex, much better. Most social programs are failed policies...and a huge waste and drain on the government. That is one thing I like about both candidates...they say they will get rid of the social programs that don't work. Trouble is...they never identify which programs. lol.
O needs no defense on this or his policies.
for me to know and for you to find out after the landslide in T-minus 24 and O's inauguration in January.

I know my candidate, my party and their platform. I am very comfortable with my choice. Since there is no party radical enough to suit you, and since you know so much, why don't you establish your own? How about the Nazican party? Has kind of a catchy ring to it, don't you think?
And I still disagree. We shall agree to disagree. But....
welome to the board! A new voice is welcome, whichever side the voice decides to fall. :)
yes, you demonstrate liberal policies.

Making up stories, defending terrorists, hating America.  You must be proud.


And you demonstrate neocon policies.

Lying and attacking and personal insults.  You can't defend the issues because your theory is indefensible.


Again, this is the liberal board.  We're not here to please you.


SP's energy policies demonstrate

1.  Sarah's socialism is fine and dandy for Alaska:  "...and Alaska - we're set up, UNLIKE other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we SHARE THE WEALTH when the development of these resources occurs"... boasting to a reporter of having been able to send a check for $1,200 to every man, woman and child in the state since, "Alaska is sometimes described as America's socialist state, because of its collective ownership of resources.”


2.  She agrees with Obama's windfall profits concept...a windfall profit, by any other name, is...well, a windfall profit.


3.  Sarah is a hypocrite.


4.  Sarah can articulate the shrub's oil policies even more precisely that her running mate. 


 


Yes, but he is comparing policies and emphasizing
words straight from McC's mouth and infinitely verifiable upon inspection of his record. Obama is NOT indulging himself in a character assassinating, fear-mongering, cultural warring free-for-all. People DO notice the difference, you know...at least, some of them anyway.
after 8 years of failed policies...
I don't see how Obama could possibly do any harm. Bush has just officially been rated the 36th out of 42 presidents by a nonpartisan board of scholars.

Obama has his work cut out for him to clean up the mess that the republican president, senate and house created over the last 8-12 years.
Since there are no jobs.......policies will at least temporarily.

have to change. Quite frankly, I'd rather feed a family than endure/survive a home invasion. We haven't even SEEN the outcome of this economic crisis. When people are hungry, they steal. When people have nowhere to live, they steal. They steal in order to survive. In order to avoid massive civil unrest - these people need a safety net. My husband is laid off and he is a professional. I pray we don't have to resort to eating out of dumpsters in order to survive. And don't think for a minute you are immune.


I too want Obama's policies to fail. If anyone...
listened to the whole interview with Rush they would understand what he was talking about. Don't want the country to fail, which is happening right now before our very eyes.
you should update yourself on foreign policies
He most certainly does NOT know what he is doing.
Larger-Than-Life Corporate Salaries are Unfair to Average American Workers. see article.

Commentary: Larger-Than-Life Corporate Salaries are Unfair to Average American Workers


Date: Friday, April 14, 2006
By: Judge Greg Mathis, BlackAmericaWeb.com



Despite slower-than-anticipated growth and lower-than-expected profits, many corporations have generously rewarded their leaders, while simultaneously reducing lower-level staff salaries and benefits in an attempt to control costs. This disturbing practice only serves to further widen the gap between America’s wealthy few and its working class and clearly demonstrates just how little this country values its workforce.


At a time when most American workers are struggling to make basic ends meet and worrying how they’ll manage to save enough for retirement, many of this country’s corporate chief executives are stuffing their pockets with larger-than-life compensation packages that include high base salaries, stock options and ample pension plans. In 2004, the average chief executive’s salary at a large company was more than 170 times that of the average worker’s pay. Last year, executive salaries grew 25 percent, while that of the average American worker grew only 3.1 percent. 




Even when a company struggles, their CEOs are still rewarded. For example, the current CEO of a global manufacturing firm received over $11 million in compensation last year, despite the company’s $3.4 billion revenue loss, an 11-percent drop in stock value and a staff reduction of 17,000 workers. There are similar stories at corporations across the country. While worker pensions are frozen and many are asked to do without raises, CEOs manage to earn their multi-million dollar bonuses.


It’s no surprise that CEOs are cleaning up. Consider this: Corporations often use compensation committees to set their executive salaries. Many of these committees use outside consultants to help guide the process. These consultants are often already contracted to do other work for the company. The conflict of interest here is obvious: The consultant won’t upset the CEO -- and risk losing other contracts -- by setting a more realistic, performance based pay model.


Many corporate CEOs are, in short, getting over, and it is a slap in the face of every American worker. While it is understood that executive salaries would greatly exceed that of the average worker’s, there is no logical argument to explain why the growth rate between the two is so dramatically different. To protect its workforce, corporate America must ensure worker’s salaries grow at rates that keep pace with the cost of living, while slowing the rate of growth of CEO salaries. Corporate boards must stop rewarding CEOs with multi-million dollar bonuses. It is unacceptable for a company to lay off thousands of workers and then turn around and pay an executive for a job well done.


As a country, we often ask our government to think about the needs of the average American, and rightly so. However, if America is to truly prosper, the corporations that feed our local economy must also consider and respect the well-being of average worker.


---


Judge Greg Mathis is national vice president of Rainbow PUSH and a national board member of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference.


and Obama was talking about McCain's policies
What's the difference? Because she used the word Lipstick in her speech, it was about her. That's quite a leap. Give me a break.
What "Natl Security Policies"? THIS administration
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If there already exist specific written policies

pertaining to personal workspace adornment (size, number and/or appropriateness of photographs, posters, banners, political content, sports memorabilia, etc.) then I would agree with you.  If you don't like the policy, don't work there.  Your office is not your personal gallery.


If the company doesn't want somebody hanging up a Soviet flag, then they're probably going to have to prohibit Old Glory as well.


However, if this is a policy formulated on the spur of the moment to appease a complainer, then I disagree.  What's next?  An Ohio State fan complaining about a Michigan pennant in the next cubicle?)  Nor do I agree that new policies should be formulated after the fact to deal with an existing situation just because nobody foresaw it.  If it's an important issue, then a rule should already cover it. 


If this is a public area (waiting room/reception area) then I am sure the company must have had the foresight to write a standard regarding decor, since all visitors will see this.  In my opinion, if it ain't covered in that policy, it should be okay.


Interesting that people voluntarily come to this country, going to considerable effort to get here, then so easily become offended and need special accommodations.  What is it they don't understand about "liberty"?  If an American coworker complained about the Ugandan flag in a neighboring workspace, there would be h*ll to pay!  Disciplinary action against the complainer.  Law suits!  ACLU involvement!   Paid leave  and free counseling for the Ugandan employee to get over the trauma of the event!


Fpolicy, HLSecurity, WarPeace SP=8 Obama 136 policies
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Ashes are all that's left of the shrub's scorched earth policies.
only after a platform transplant and some really new blood to resolve heir leadership crisis.
Yeah and Bush's policies got us in a fine mess didn't they?

proposed tax policies which include granting rebates to most US workers.

That statement jumped out at me.


 


aThis post is in violation of Rapture Ready's policies.
You are in violation of Rapture Ready's polices by posting a link to their message board on this forum. The following is a direct quote from their terms of service.

"No posts or links from other message boards, forums, or political and religious blogs on this site or posting messages here on other message boards, forums, or political and religious blogs."
Fact Based or Faith Based Policies...sm
Click watch video in the link.

Most impressive statement is how the Bush administration has gotten away from fact based policy making.
Disagree..sm
It takes a heartless person to say that the 9-11 widows are doing this for money. WHAT MONEY??? The insurance policy? Stop kidding yourself. Losing a love one and gaining an insurance policy is not everyones object of affection. This is the same effect of a mother losing her child to a drowning and then pushing for swiming safety, or victim of a sex predator pushing for tougher sex laws.

As far as Hillary, I think she is just as outraged as anyone else should be at Ann's comments, and the fact that Ann gets media coverage to tout this stuff is just as mind numbing.

All you said about Ann I agree, plus add hatred, evil, and prejudice and you have her pegged.


disagree here also

Colter is a hatemonger, thats all.  I heard every hour of AL Franken's program and he never said anything outrageous like she/it.  Al Franken was quite witty and entertaining and merely give his listeners the facts that were suppressed elsewhere.  He was on the story about Asian factory workers forced to have abortions by their American bosses way before other outlets were discussing it. Really!! Stop trying to pull the wool ....


 


 


I would have to disagree with you.

No surprise there right?


I would like to note that all social reform to take place in the United States has been at the heels of a liberal movement.  From our breaking off with Britain in the mid 1700s, to civil war in the mid 1800s, and the liberal movement of the mid 1960s.  Liberalism as a belief has moved from Republican to Democrat and back again more than once.  Taking your stance on pro-life and moving it to the time of mid 1800s would put you for all intents and purposes under the Democratic wing.


As the saying goes, complacency breeds contempt, and I believe that we are now in the beginnings of another liberal movement.  A little quicker than our 100 year mark, but with the speed that the world is changing, so must we. 


We as a people and government have to embrace change, that is the true nature of liberalism. 


Realistically, your views/postings justify the label.  You may not wish it, but by just expressing them promotes it.  The fact that you have never mentioned the remote possibility of voting Democrat, which at this point in our history leans toward the liberal, and only looking at the Republican party is labeling.  If you did not want to be labeled or wish not to be, you wouldn't be so quick to make your conservative opinions heard.


As I frequently tell my husband, if you get too caught up in the details, you will lose the bigger picture, which usually leads me to telling him that he gets in his own way more often than not.


I disagree
First these are pics of him NOT in his uniform. True, there are some pics of him in his uniform in some of the ads, but others he is in civilian clothes. It gives me the same feeling as when I went to the health food store and spent $50 for a large can of protein powder and got got home and the can was half empty. I call it "deception". I also think by reminding us of his time in the service he is reminding us that he was a POW and he's got a grudge against people in other countries and he's going to use his position for revenge. That's what I see when I'm reminded of his uniform.

Second - his mind. No it's not a cheap shot, its the truth. Everytime he speaks he misstates himself. When talking about the countries at work he gets the different countries mixed up and has got to constantly be correct by Lieberman or others standing around him. When asked about his voting record on important issues he can't remember how he voted and he even stated so. One time he said "I can't remember how I voted on that issue". It was an important issue and I looked at my DH and said what does he mean he can't remember, how would you forget something like that. So I think the state of his mind is an important factor in whether I will vote for him.

As for Obama...I was not talking about Obama in my post. I was talking about McCain, but since you brougnt it up, sure there are things I may not like about him but his speaking ability and remembering important issues are not one of them. Saying he can't make speeches without a teleprompter or planned statement is just not true. He has spoken at several events without a teleprompter or prepared speeches and he can think on his feet just fine. I didn't hear him stumble over questions given by audience members or media. I'm sure you probably heard that from some conservative programs like Fox or Rush Limbaugh.
i must disagree
I have read many of his columns.  He is a right wing extremist.
Disagree....
...and really, just have to laugh out loud.

Sarah Palin has more experience than Barack Obama. Just wait and watch.

Every time, every person, be in on Obama's own team, Obama himself, Biden, or you for that matter....say that she has no experience....

Well guess what? She has more leadership experience than Obama.

She has been in charge and running a government.

She has been the governor of Alaska since 2006.

She was the mayor of a city, Wasilla, Alaska.

So I ask you. How can you, or anyone out there, sit there and say she has no experience to be VP....when you have a candidate running for President who has even less experience for her.

Explain that one to me.

And while you're doing that, think about how bad Obama will look every single time anyone, anywhere, brings up her lack of experience....as that will only highlight and reinforce his own, sadly lacking leadership background and experience.


Disagree. sm

I feel the reason New Orleans went under was because the National Guard, tanks, etc. were all in Iraq.


Doesn't it bother you that Palin actually said, her son was going to Iraq to fight the people that attacked us?  Clueless.


I agree that McCain is a war hero, so is my dad, but he certainly is not qualified to be President.


I have to disagree with you on that.
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and I disagree with you so

maybe we both will be kicked off too for disagreeing.


Sam does research before posting an answer to some of the statements told here, then posts the links so we can all see what is the truth, not just a few. Anyone who cares anything about this country would do the same.  It's not rocket science. The problem is some people on this board don't care to listen. They're right and everybody else is wrong.They think sam is attacking them personally, when he/she is not, just stating FACTS, not untruths.