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I always thought you had more intelligence than most of the left.

Posted By: on this board. maybe I was wrong. on 2009-01-16
In Reply to: Maybe he and his wife were too... - Marmann




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I thought you were an independent, gourdpainter...you lean way left sometimes...nm

So you're saying the left controls the media? I thought the media produced the story.
I haven't seen or heard one thing blaming Obama's crew for this. Where can I read about the right aligning to attack the left? Where did you find this information? Or is this just your observation and opinion of things?
you mean left wing....it's a left wing ding website on the messiah....the right wouldn't bothe

I don't know about intelligence...sm
but I do feel that it will be the people in Washington in power are the ones that will benefit the most from an Obama White House, and a democratic majority in Congress. They want power and control over this country and its people. Truly frightening, in my opinion.

While the lower income bracket may benefit in some ways, truly, the majority of American people and their way of life, will not, and will be changed forever.

It will take at least a generation to recover from this. I fear the most for our children and grandchildren. They will have a hard time attaining what was once the American dream.
How much INTELLIGENCE does it take to
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Thanks, anyway. But with intelligence, you can
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So much for your pre-speech intelligence

He did talk about the war.... Hey, wait a minute, your intelligence was bad....You lied to us!!!   You twisted the information to fit your post...Don't you want to apologize and tell us all what a terrible mistake you made!!!!       How does it feel to be called a liar without justification?


I am not underestimating the intelligence....
I do not doubt the intelligence. But there are a fair number of people who either don't care what the man is about or refuse to see it. I think bankrupting coal plants is a critical issue. I think being accepting of skyrocketing power bills for US to make a point is a critical issue. I think redistribution of wealth is a critical issue.

Bottom line tho..if he is elected, and if he does what he promises...be very careful what you ask for. Ask Venezuela and Cuba what a failed socialist state looks like.
please do not insult my intelligence
Why do people here do that? You do not know me so do know presume that I am "not familiar with workers' movements and do not keep up with the news." You do not have to accept my opinion; I do not have to accept yours. But please realize I have every right to hold that opinion and to express it. Just because i see it differently than you does not give you the right to demean my knowledge of the subject. I have lived on the side of those who were definitely hurt be unionization. My opinion comes from personal experience as well as other sources. I am outta here now.
Intelligence offends you? First of all,

he beat the Clinton machine at their own game, and you should be way happy about that, at least Hilary is not Prez.  Secondly, he is a black man who has been elected by the American people as President of the United States.  Forgive me, but a dumb black man could never have accomplished that.  You should be thanking God that we finally have a man in office who is intelligent, who may be able to help you and the rest of the middle class get a leg up.  And a plus, he can make intelligent conversation with speaking in sentences, unlike W.  Give the man a chance, he hasn't even been sworn in. No one bad-mouthed W until he royally screwed the American people. 


Intelligence Committee?
A congressional delegation made what was supposed to be a top secret trip to Iraq this week. A few media outlets, including Congressional Quarterly, learned about it but agreed not to disclose anything until the delegation had left Iraq.

So what did Rep. Peter Hoekstra, R-Michigan do? By the way, Hoekstra is a former chairman of the Intelligence Committee and is still a ranking member. Hoekstra BLOGGED about the trip on his Twitter page and included details about their itinerary in updates posted every few hours.

In a related note, a recent debate between candidates for Republican National Committee chair featured an argument over who had more friends on Facebook. It's good to see the Republican party is embracing new technology.
Any person with intelligence would

see that this is a facetious post.  No one really wants this to happen.  This was just trying to prove a point and obviously the dems have twisted it around to be treason.  I can't help but laugh at the idiocy on this board.  It is so much better to call people names and cry about the last 8 years than to take a good look at what is going on in the world now.  No worries though.  When Obama runs this country into the ground, you will still blame Bush and live in your happy little demented bubble drinking kool-aid.


Wake up people.  Bush is out of office.  It is Obama's turn now.  So let's pay attention to what he is doing....shall we?


Intelligence bores you?
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I wonder what is the average IQ intelligence of Americans





Red State Road Trip: A 60-Minute Documentary
A Film by Chris Hume and L. Wild Horse

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One would have to have a certain level of intelligence to be bored. sm

You are the weakest link.  Buh-bye now.


Are you sure your are not confusing arrogance with intelligence and sm
confidence? Those are the qualities we need in a president aren't they?
Intelligence offends you? Just an observation.
Oh oh, another big word....
Intentional Intelligence is my game!
I am way too smart to let your feeble attempts at right-wing propaganda affect the decisions I make regarding this election. I consider the source and do not give you a second thought! I have seen you repeat your talking points over and over and over again, hoping that if you repeat them often enough people will somehow believe that they are true. Well you don't fool me! You will have to find some of your Joe six-pack buddies and try to sell your line of crap to them. I am with the elite group!
Oh my...another Obama fan proves their intelligence
or lack thereof.  How sad.
Bush ignored the intelligence reports.
The attack most likely had been planned for a long time, but Bush and his cronies ignored all of the intelligence reports they received that indicated that a huge attack using airplanes was imminent. If he wants credit for keeping us safe since 9/11, he has to take credit for not keeping us safe on 9/11!
Palin has more intelligence than you would ever give
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Typical right-wing intelligence.
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How pathetic. I am not scared by intelligence.
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Wow, the intelligence in this message is astounding
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OK, they agreed. Doesn't mean the intelligence was correct, and it obviously
wasn't, hence, no WMDs, no connection to Al Quaeda. Just getting rid of a brutal dictator - hey, I can live with that. So, does that mean we are now the world police?

Clinton has never, I mean never as far as I can recall or read made a connection to Al Quada and Iraq as was done by this admin. Our reasons for attacking Iraq under the Clinton admin. was in response to Saddam not complying with UN sanctions. Two different things.

The links to Al Quada that are operating in Iraq today are there in oposition to the US preemptive military action in Iraq. They simply were not there before this war began. Our president knew there was no connection before we went to war.
I remember when *intelligence* actually meant knowledge...sm
No I don't want to sit around and wait to be killed along with my loved ones or anyone else's, but when my day and time comes there's nothing anyone can say or do to stop it. What I don't agree with is the preemptive war in Iraq..period. And you are sadly mistaken, IF Saddam had ordered an attack or enabled an attack like 9-11 to be carried out in America I would be the first to stand up and say let's go get him. But, then Bush probably would go after Kim Jong-il, go figure.

Al Quaeda attacked America, yet we have spent the majority of our time and energy in Iraq fighting insurgents in that country and IMHO made more enemies for ourselves.
What a stupid comparison. Anyone with minimal intelligence...sm
could not say they think SP would make a competent president. Get a grip!

Actually, I do have "at least" minimal intelligence, and I think she's just as qualified as
It's not like she was plucked out of the PTA without doing anything else. I can't see that Obama has done anything more than she has besides vote present and campaign.
People should have to pass an intelligence test
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Typical pub. Underestimates the intelligence of US voters.
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Underestimating the intelligence of the American voter
It's what makes them think replacing critical issues debate with smears, scare tactics and politics of division can win an election.
Israeli intelligence is far superior to our own...at this point

This man knows these things because he has been involved in Israel's intelligence community since the late 60s early 70s and is currently a consultant to the US.


Did you know that our fed gov is currently hiring like gangbusters? They are striving to improve our security as a nation. Surprise! We actually have a president who is trying to improve things! We will get attacked under Obama's watch - you can pretty much count on it. But, I suspect he will not ignore intelligence warnings beforehand - like Bush did.


Protect us???? He did not listen to all the Intelligence Reports....sm
that a large-scale attack was imminent, his Daddy lit the flame by going over to Iraq the first time to secure Daddy Bush's and his friend's oil interests there, they did not care a FIG about the poor Kuwaitis! We are more hated as a nation now, because of the Bush policies, than we have EVER been in history, and instead if his getting Bin Ladin, as he vowed, he helped the Bin Ladin family living in LA to escape the country becaue of the wrath of the people. Speaking of Kool-Aid? Blind pubs must have bought the factory and have been living on the stuff the past 8 years, unbelievable!
I just thought it might be nice to hear an original thought. sm
I guess I was reaching.
McCain supporters intelligence sinks to an all time low. nm
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U.S. Army Intelligence Analyst Accused of Disloyaty for Doubts...

Thousands are rallying behind this guy as the story makes its way around the web.  The story is just below the picture. 


http://www.williambowles.info/gispecial/2006/0806/280806/gi_4h28_280806.html


 


in other words seeing someone as all bad or all good is not an indicator of high intelligence. Bewa
Now apply that to all the Bush bashers, McCain bashers, and Sarah Palin bashers on this board. I agree, sim!! Oh boy do I agree!! LOL.
Common sense, street smarts and intelligence would be ideal.
Considering the choice we were given, I think we did the right thing and that we will be on the mend sooner rather than later.
Thought this was good so I thought I'd share

Down the drain?  Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'


By Betsy Newmark
High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger


If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.


“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”


“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”


Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?



He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?


Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:


GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.


But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.


OBAMA: Right.


GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.


OBAMA: Right.


GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.


So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?


OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.


Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”


That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.


But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.


Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked

I told you what I thought he thought....
and thank you so much for reducing it to "a piece."

That being said, here is link to article from Wall Street Journal about both candidates and outsourcing...Obama is not going to stop it either. He has said on the stump the answer is more highly educated American workers to compete.

It seems to me, and although you may think this is also a "piece," that if you put our corporate tax rates lower, if that corporation is inclined to hire Americans and not outsource then they will do so.

You honestly think the majority of corporations just WANT to outsource and taxes don't matter?


No need. I can't think of who else left besides Nan before. sm
That's why I didn't name their name. Either way, my point was they'll be back.
Actually what the left
expects and the right should too is not to be lied to on a continual basis, to have our constitution upheld. We didnt go into this war to spread democracy we went because this administration lied. WMD remember? THATS why we went into Iraq, that and the fact that due to republican spin fully half of Americans believed Saddam did 09/11. and meanwhile the real perp of 09/11 runs free. If Iraq had no oil, we never would have gone in there. Sadly, Mr bush has made one huge mess that is costing us billions and killing our soldiers. Yeah a whole lot of America is furious and upset and we have good reason to be.
Look what the left does..

maybe this was posted before but it just goes to show how biased the media is and what liars they really are. the quote in red was the actual quote. Look how the media decided to butcher it.


The media is trying REALLY hard to paint Sarah Palin into an evil religious zealot. The AP is willing to break the typically utilized laws of printing the English language to do it.


According to the AP, Sarah Palin said this about the troops while at church:


“Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God,"


According to real life, Sarah Palin said this about the troops while at church (with the AP’s selective quoting underlined):


“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God,”


The AP quote means “Iraq is a mission from God.”


The actual quote means “We pray Iraq is a mission from God.”


The headline is even more misleading.


Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'


The AP not only doesn't mention the previous sentence, or the first part of the sentence they quote, they also essentially ignore the meaning of the very next sentence as well. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."


This is a statement of humble reflection from Palin. To translate into terms the media might understand, its "I hope we're doing the right thing."


This story is bad enough that the AP really should issue a correction on it, if not a full retraction. There's no story unless you butcher the quote. It's based on half (or a quarter) of a quote, mentally ignoring the previous and following sentences, and even presenting the trimmed quote as the start of a sentence --forcing them to capitalize a word that actually appeared in the middle of the sentence.


Really bad.


you left off

spinning his wedding ring.  And everyone knows what a married man is thinking when he does that . . .


 


If you have next to no $ left now
you must be one of the ones that the rest of us will be supporting with our tax money. 
I will if you put the left one in.

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Left behind
I am just wondering if either of you read Tim LeHaye's "Left Behind" series. It is fictional but deals with the rapture and those left behind. I had read it many years ago but was just thinking the other day how scary it is that I find so many similarities between the books and our current situation and my feelings about what we as a country may be facing after this election. Part of it also deals with a "one-world" religion, another thought I find scary. Have you read it?
She is the only one left on there with
decency and common sense! She is definitely no twit and there is nothing to hate about her. Just my opinion of course, and I feel like all the others are twits.
Does anyone have anything left in their

those to the far left seem to think
we are to be all-tolerant of them and their lunatic ideas, but the tolerance doesn't work the other direction. Don't worry, those who counted on Obama for the gay/lesbian legislation -- i'm sure he'll come through for you before its all over.