What can he possibly hope to gain by
Posted By: (sm) on 2009-01-03
In Reply to: Cornyn threatens filibuster over Franken - sm
showcasing his own hypocrisy? This will not be the last time we will see obstructive partisan tactics from sore losers whose eyes stay trained on the next election cycle. These types strive to undermine any progress that can be made on behalf of the voters to further their own self-serving interests.
If there is no provision in election protocol to account for this specific circumstance, then the logical step would be to create one for next time, not to filibuster in an attempt to strip Minnesota voters of representation for some undetermined period of time. This is probably not the best of strategies for a party who lost 7 (and probably 8) senate seats, and will be sitting with 58 or 59 dems and 2 independents who have tendencies to lean toward the dems.
Being from Texas, I can tell you that sucking up will not come easy for John Cornyn, but I say let him show his true colors. He'll ultimately end up cutting off his nose to spite his own face.
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Whatever traction McC hope to gain from the "gaffe",
That Biden story made it through a news cycle or two, but it seems to be gone with the wind after Palin flunked her test.
what he has to gain?
Oh come on. Now, if you want to live in dreamland, that's your business and you can pretend all you want, but if you think Obama ain't looking for ALL the black votes to come his way, you're lying. What he has to gain? The presidency....did you forget what he was running for?
He plants himself in little black communities, i.e., Selma,AL, where he thinks he'll make a big speech and enlighten all those dumb folks who they should vote for. His patronizing little stabs he tries to make. Heard his entire little speech and talked with the blacks in my neighborhood who went there. They were disgusted when they left. At least they knew when they were being spoken down to. How he went on and on about the march being the reason his mom and dad got together, blah, blah, blah, pandering to the crowd. He forgot most in the crowd actually knew about the march, unlike him, who was born BEFORE the march, so in essence, his birth had nothing to do with the march as he so eloquently tried to get them to believe.
Everybody there was not fooled by his race baiting.
Now, unless you were there or know someone that was, YOU have no logical argument.
DOW up over 900 points....biggest gain
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How is she using her religion to gain power and money?
Can you show me facts on that one? Standing up for what you believe in and letting it guide your decisions is not using it to gain power or money. I don't know why people think that someone can check their faith at the door. It's not like taking off your coat. It is ingrained in you. It is something you will base all your decisions, big and small, off of. Since when are good morals a bad thing?
So you think she should just sit at home and knit shirts and keep her pretty little mouth shut? That is completely unfair. We need more strong women in this country. I'm sorry that you had those experiences with women, but you can't lump all strong women into the same boat.
Think gain.... Soviet Union went waaaay past
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When racism fails to gain political traction, switch to
We can see just how well that's working for the camp.
How can you possibly know that?!
I am amazed by your psychic abilites! No one thought Bush would take us down like a rock and how quickly it could be done!
Quite possibly. But I am sure there would be one...
who could perform just as well who does not have a commercial stake in the outcome of the election.
Possibly s/m
He went over to the "dark side" whatever that means because he uses his head for something besides a hat rack. Did you happen to notice that he donated the maximum of $2300 to the McCain campaign in the beginning? Personally I have great respect for Colin Powell and would have voted for him if he were running for the office. You die hard republicans need to get over yourself and wake up and smell the coffee. McCain/Palin are NOT good for America.
Possibly
but I have a feeling if this guy is out mugging people he may just be unintelligent enough to think a backwards B is correct...plus I'm sure if he was on drugs or something he wasn't to concerned about being alphabetically correct.
or possibly
(not saying he is, just an idea) if he is a radical muslim (let us remember not all muslims are radicals!) he was planted in the church for 20 years so everyone would argue that he is a Christian.
Just my conspiracy theory for you :)
I don't know if he is or if he isn't. All I do know is most Christians don't mock the Bible, and if you check out the video on the faith board he does just that. If he had made fun of the Koran or any other religion like that he would have been in BBBIIIGGGG trouble! But it's not hate if it's against Christians!
Just possibly...........
studying pig poop is not such a bad idea when you consider what the methane gas will do to this world once the permafrost melts (which is ongoing) and releases enough methane gas to destroy our planet........scribble it all down to a few sound bytes and it all sounds ridiculous. Keep beating your drum, it served you well in the past election. And who gives a rats about Rush......except maybe you since he is the unofficial leader of the pub party.
Just possibly...........
studying pig poop is not such a bad idea when you consider what the methane gas will do to this world once the permafrost melts (which is ongoing) and releases enough methane gas to destroy our planet........scribble it all down to a few sound bytes and it all sounds ridiculous. Keep beating your drum, it served you well in the past election. And who gives a rats about Rush......except maybe you since he is the unofficial leader of the pub party.
Oh please....how sexist can you possibly be???
She governed when she was pregnant with the child and she was back at work soon after. If you had watched her speech, you see she has a wonderful support system in her husband and her older daughter. Are you really saying a woman is incapable of taking care of her family and running the country and a man is? Simply by virtue of their sex?
Alaska is not a small state. It is more than twice the size of Texas.
If McCain keeled over two days after they took office (God forbid!), we would still have a President with more experience in executive office than we will have Obama is elected on day 1.
That is simply the fact. He will need multiple advisors, she would need multiple advisors. There is nothing in his resume that says he is more qualified to lead, and govern, than she is.
And she is not running for the #1...he is.
You cannot possibly be that ignorant.....
Teenagers have been raising babies since the beginning of time. Only until the last few decades has it been scoffed at that a teenager should have a baby and NO, I don't encourage any young person to go that route before they finish school and hopefully go on to college or at least, find a spouse first and then have a child. In an ideal world, that is the route I would wish for them all.
But in Bristol's case, my point was, and you know it, that I doubt very seriously I will have to support her and her child. Do I want 12-even 17 year olds having babies? No, but I can GUARANTEE you because I see it in my community EVERYDAY, that if they are working to raise their own child and I mean truly out there WORKING and not sitting on their behinds letting me pay for their child, they more than likely will have learned a very valuable lesson in life about raising a child and will in all likelihood not be so fast to have another one.
But, when those teenagers who take no responsibility continue to have one child after another and they are ALL on the taxpayer's payroll, you better believe they have no business with a baby.
What business is it of yours if a teenager has a baby if you're not having to pay for it womb to whenever??
Strong, possibly. But was I saw most was
I could not possibly agree with you more
about rewarding laziness. However, if you REALLY listen, that is NOT what Obama is proposing. He is proposing to tax those with more wealth (seems fair to me) in order to take some of the burden off the middle class....which is probably you, I know it is ME. Not a word have I heard him speak about rewarding laziness. I expect he worked pretty hard to get where he is so I can't imagine why he would want to give what he worked for himself to other people who are too lazy to put forth any effort. Makes absolutely no sense to me.
And it couldn't possibly have anything to do...(sm)
with the fact that we've lost around 3 million jobs this year, and the rate of job losses is not slowing down? Do yourself a favor. When you get that check in the mail from the government that you so disagree with, why don't you just send it back with a note saying *Thanks, but no thanks. I prefer to wait for the trickle.* I'm sure you'll feel much better about yourself then.
I really find it hard to understand why people like yourself fight so hard against policies that would benefit you. In case you haven't noticed, the stimulus plan he is proposing IS the middle class bailout. How many times on this board did pubs say *where's my bailout* during the first bailout? And now those same people are turning their noses up and trying to act like they are above it simply because a pub isn't the one who is trying to fix this mess.
It's not the economy that's killing this nation. It's people like you who would rather divide the country than accept the reality that the other side might actually have a good idea. Nixon would be so proud.
You cannot possibly watch FOX and say that.
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This is possibly the most disorganized
ramble I've ever read on this board. I truly cannot figure out what you are trying to say.
Could you possibly be any more bitter and hateful? sm
I see your posts all over. You just posted on the conservative board but didn't have the nerve to put your usual "gt" signature. I have never seen someone so totally consumed with bitterness, rage and, well, just plain ugliness.
Oh, for Heaven's sakes.....you can't possibly
There are a LOT of good parents whose son/daughter couldn't control their hormones at age 17 and YOUNGER. When my children were teenagers, I couldn't follow them around all day and night. They heard me talk year after year about the consequences of having sex too early, even if they thought they had it under control. That's all I could do. I would ask where they would be, who with, and give them a time I expected them home or ELSE, but look sister, we all know things can get heated up very fast and it doesn't take but ONE time and a couple of minutes to get pregnant. I am relieved my daughter didn't find herself in that situation and I hope and pray my 20 something son won't either. He knows our feelings and we hope he acts responsibly.
Do you have children or teenagers and if so, do you follow them around all day, every minute of the day, even when you think they are where they say they are? I doubt it.
The young lady will have to deal with her decision and hopefully, her younger sisters will also learn from this.....don't go this route. That certainly doesn't mean I would give up on the mother. I do know good mothers whose daughters got pregnant and it did come as a shock, but I didn't automatically think, wow, what a terrible mother.
Possibly, but I certainly have not heard McCain
say one word reprimanding these people - which in essence says a lot.
No, but I am aware of possibly 1000s
of democrats being registered to vote who do not have the legal right to vote, people who don't even exist. Suppression, are you kidding?
She cannot possibly raise that child and utilize her master's, though,
Certainly you'd never encourage your daughter to spend time working on a MASTER'S while trying to also raise a child!! You've just bashed another mother for doing something similar, so I don't get it. Or is okay if you only have ONE child or what? Please fill me in on the double standard you uphold.
Pure entertainment (or possibly not) see link inside...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,415441,00.html
She's going to talk to police and possibly make public statment tmrw
Will be interesting. I'm sure we'll know soon enough if this story is true.
A CIA agent who needs to have her identity remain anonymous in order to possibly save her life. And
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Good for Joe! I hope so. And I hope he sues...
the governor of the state of Ohio from now to next week. He should. They BIG time violated his civil rights. If this situation was reversed and he was a Dem who had asked McCain a question and a state had had him investigated, the ACLU would be all over this like ugly on an ape. Liberals only care about other liberals...they could care LESS what happens to conservatives. But yeah, they are all about civil liberties. Geez. Pull the other leg awhile.
I've got a question for the lefties. How are we supposed to elicit valuable, possibly life-savin
information from a terrorist if we don't use enhanced interrogation techniques? What do you suggest? We serve them a buffet and politely ask what their next target is? And when they refuse to talk, we just say well, thanks anyway, go with Allah?
Enhanced interrogation techniques or torture, if you will, is a necessary evil in this perpetually dark and dangerous world we live in.
who could possibly care? War, financial ruin, health care needs.
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I sure hope not...I hope he has extra, extra protection sm
I think regardless of which candidate wins they will need extra security this time.
have to say hope you are so right!
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I hope so, too.
Can only hope and pray. 
sure hope this comes out.
Certainly something nice for kids to see a president do, flash the birdie.
It would be my hope---
That a concerted effort would have ALWAYS been made to keep bashing down on BOTH sides by the moderator.
I noticed that the posts below one of my recent entries were all deleted. It makes me feel bad that the time and effort put into those posts were lost. I guess that's the chance we take on a privately-moderated forum and I should have been prepared for that.
I really really hope that you..
or anyone in your family never become disabled in any way, that no one in your family will marry or adopt a minority member, that mental illness or mental deficiency never crosses your doorstep, that someone in your family converts to another faith, that you never lose your job, your savings, your house, your car or anything else you hold dear. I hope you never lose your family and/or friends and have to go it alone. I hope you are never put into a situation where you are frightened and have not a clue what to do. I hope you never lose health or home or car insurance or are rejected for a claim you might make and have to pay yourself and find that you can't. I hope you and your family never make a mistake, especially one that is made public in any way. I do not think those of you who are always pounding the **victim** **entitlement** drum would have absolutely no idea how to deal with what great numbers of Americans deal with every day. The real arrogance is that you believe you have arrived at this superior status on your own. Most of us were born with a leg up; a lot of us were not. Those with the leg up got a big free jump ahead 300 spaces. We were born into the families we were, in the country we were and Creator, not us, is responsible for that.
As far as the people in Lebanon, they flew in to the Beirut airport of their own accord. Since the airport was blown up, other measures needed to be explored. What would you have done??
Let us hope you are also the last.
This is the liberal board and you are to refrain from personal attacks. I am sure you will now make endless excuses about the nasty comments made regarding Raven/Lurker's ideology (as well as anyone else foolish enough to post on a LIBERAL board daring to espouse a LIBERAL philosophy), and the Liberal board will once again because a far right-wing poster child for short-sighted philosophy of war and dumbfoundingly ignorant accusations against all Democrats/liberals/or-anyone-with-half-a-brain-who-has-a-conscience. I await this result, ad nauseum.
I hope you are right - I truly am.
You are correct. I cannot stand either of them. It literally makes me ill to watch them. Don't ask me why because I just can't put my finger on it, but when she or Bill is speaking I find my stomach gets nauseous - and I voted for him the first time he ran. I was for him for about his first 2 years in office, then I started learning more and more about he and Hillary and what their plans were. Guess I was blinded by the lies and when it all started coming out I realized the person he was as president and the person who ran for president were two different people. I think its just basically because they are such manipulating liars and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone believes anything they say. I have not yet found anything they say to be credible. You know when everyone talks about Richard Nixon they'll say what a bad person he was he was impeached and once he left office nobody paid attention to him. If they mentioned his name all I kept hearing was "impeached, impeached", but when you hear Bill's followers will never say "he was impeached". You know I really didn't have a hard time with them at all until after I started reading about their history and all the illegal things they've done throughout their careers to get where they are (and they got away with it). I told my DH, so-n-so went to jail for that, what is keeping these two out, especially when there is proof of what they've done. They'll come out and say such-n-such a person does this or that (eluding to something imoral), when in fact they have done the same exact thing. But then again all politicians do it. It also made me nauseous when we tried explaining to my MIL things he was doing (illegal things) and her only come back was "but he's so cute". That's all she had for an answer to everything. "Hey mom, do you realize he lied to America? and do you realize this was illegal?" - "Yes, but he's so good looking and it was only a little lie". Ignorance like that is just what really irritates me to the core.
I know I have to calm down. I was real calm when I turned off the TV and stopped seeing those two faces, but then I go and turn on the news and they are still in it - so off the TV will go again.
I do understand they are an influential part of politics - why for the life of me I don't know. He's an impeached ex president. Nothing more. He didn't do anything to improve the lives of Americans - he put us deeper in debt. Taxes were the highest when he was in office than anyone can remember. Okay, in all fairness I do give Hillary credit for being the first female to get as far as she has running for present, but that's about all the credit I give her. If her values are to teach young girls that they can lie, cheat and steal to get whatever they want, along with crying when you don't get your own way, telling people you are staying in because an assassination could happen in June and you need to be there to pick up the pieces? (Those were her words no matter what way anyone wants to spin it). Oh my!!! Well that's not a characteristic I would ever want any of my children to daughters to have. Not only through her campaign, but also things she has done and said in her political career and as first lady also factor into why I think she is just a horrible person. At the convention I do see her as an important person (maybe in my last post I didn't think so, but I do think it is important for her to be there), but the impeached ex-president should not. He disgraced the office and the trust that millions (well I don't know if it was millions but it was a lot) had in him. He used his position as president to keep having his affairs, and other stuff he did. I can't even imagine what Monica was thinking when the guy that she was in love with and was sleeping with (even though he was married) when he was asked why he had an affair he said "because I could". Not because I love her, or even because I care about her. No "because I could". The respect he shows towards women is Zero. Everyone will talk about John Edwards, how awful he had an affair. Or John McCain, how awful what he called his wife and what he did to his wife, but people are excusing what Bill Clinton did. Why? Oh I forgot "because he's so good looking". He may do a lot for races (people of color), but I think its all a sham. I don't know about Fox news cos I don't listen to them (got tired of one viewpoint all the time), but just listen to the comments he makes "Barack's only winning because he's black". "Barack won such-n-such an area because that's where Jesse Jackson won", etc, etc. The comments go on and on. His statements he makes in public to me show me that he is a racist and that's why I said he can hide behind his walls but he will always be a racist in my opinion. And giving people of color jobs that didn't even pay enough that they could support themselves and still had to get food stamps, while taking away good paying jobs from other people to ship them over seas (NAFTA), well that also lessened my respect for him and what he was doing to America and American's. He never cared about me or other people in America and the people who were getting the big tax breaks were the 1% of the wealthiest (those same people they claim Bush gives the tax breaks to). My family, my friends, and my families friends were all losing their jobs and houses while he was president. So I guess that's another reason why I can't stand him.
I do think that Hillary might be able to help bring the party together but I really don't believe Bill would. People like to see him speak - sure he is a mesmerizing person (although when I see him the hair on the back of my neck stands up and there is just something creepy and evil about him). I really do not think we should be having someone who disgraced the office of president and was impeached speak at the convention. Go if he wants to of course, but he should not be allowed to speak. Did the republicans have Richard Nixon speak? No because he was impeached and disgraced the office.
I just think those two are the sleeziest couple in politics. Although I do have to say there are a bunch more who are equally as sleezy, but they do stand out at the top.
So those are my lowly opinions. I'm sorry I feel that way, I wish I felt better about them but I just don't.
I truly hope that I never have to
depend on someone else's hard earned money to support myself and my family. Even if I had to, I would work hard to get back on my own two feet as soon as I could. I truly do hope things get better because things are truly scary right now. My husband runs a car dealership and he makes the money in our family. However, car sales are down so low right now that I don't even want to think about the money he will be losing come bonus check time.
I just feel like these government programs keep the little guy down. I thought the whole idea was assist people so they can better their situation and then become self-supporting. Instead...we have more and more people living off of the government with no plan or intent of trying to better their situation. They just want that monthly check.
I just think that taking more money from the hard workers and giving it away doesn't show much incentive to work hard in life. Why bother. The more you make, the more they take while people who don't work at all live off of your hard-earned money that is taken away from you.
Stop enabling people to mooch off of the government. The numbers will only rise and get worse.
I hope so
I hope the crap hits the fan and he never steps foot in office.....
did he really do that, oh I hope so...
too bad there could not be an obama/mccain ticket, but not that mccain from the past few months...
I should hope that SP
would remain only an embarrassment to Alaskans rather than becoming embarrassment to the United States of American as I am sure she would/will.
I hope you don't think s/m
that they're just going to accept the SC's decision? My money will go to bet that now they will start with the "supreme court didn't hear the case; therefore, they did not rule" so the madness will just continue. Or maybe they'll bring out that old ancient hippy.....who knows but I'll bet these most likely PAID political nut jobs aren't just going to roll over and play dead.
Hope you're feeling better Marmann.
Hope so.
Can't wait until Wednesday, Nov. 5, to find out.
I hope you get what you want
and you're happy with what you get.
All we can hope for
is that God will work in the heart of WHOMEVER gets elected, democrat or republican. I have faith that God will do the right thing. Of course, as many Christians know, often what we HOPE the right thing is and what God KNOWS the right thing is are two different things.
But like I've said before, this nation has pushed God out of here so much, I wonder if maybe he is finally giving us what we asked for. Us as Christians sat idly by and let it happen, and those who don't want Him here may finally get what they want. I just hope that through our prayers and repentance we may see a change.
I just want you all to know that whether we agree or not on politics and whatever else, I pray for any of you who don't know Christ that you get to know Him and the love He gives, and that those of you who are my sisters (and brothers!) in Christ will have strength and courage in these troubling times.
And with that I'm off to bed! Good night!
Oh yes you are. I just hope there are no
young people around you whom have had to relive this with you year in and year out. I know those that have and they never feel encouraged to strive to be all they can be. Instead, they grow up to feel someone owes them something and they feel just as angry and bitter, even though they have never had to live the horrible situation you did. They're basically raised to use that hatred and bitterness as an excuse not to take advantage of a good education and make as much of themselves as possible.
I hope everyone
has a good night. It's been fun!
We can hope..........sm
LOL. Besides, I didn't want anyone jumping on you for something you did not say. In the OP defense, it is hard to follow a thread when most posters are not using a consistent moniker. I'm guilty of the same thing at times, but not on this board. I am m, I will always be m. :o)
One can only hope that all will.
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