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Posted By: cultural warfare and the politics of fear. sm on 2008-10-17
In Reply to: Nothing to do with black or white there....has to do - with terrorists associations only....nm

We can see just how well that's working for the camp.


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Whatever traction McC hope to gain from the "gaffe",
That Biden story made it through a news cycle or two, but it seems to be gone with the wind after Palin flunked her test.
what he has to gain?
Oh come on. Now, if you want to live in dreamland, that's your business and you can pretend all you want, but if you think Obama ain't looking for ALL the black votes to come his way, you're lying. What he has to gain? The presidency....did you forget what he was running for?

He plants himself in little black communities, i.e., Selma,AL, where he thinks he'll make a big speech and enlighten all those dumb folks who they should vote for. His patronizing little stabs he tries to make. Heard his entire little speech and talked with the blacks in my neighborhood who went there. They were disgusted when they left. At least they knew when they were being spoken down to. How he went on and on about the march being the reason his mom and dad got together, blah, blah, blah, pandering to the crowd. He forgot most in the crowd actually knew about the march, unlike him, who was born BEFORE the march, so in essence, his birth had nothing to do with the march as he so eloquently tried to get them to believe.

Everybody there was not fooled by his race baiting.
Now, unless you were there or know someone that was, YOU have no logical argument.
DOW up over 900 points....biggest gain
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What can he possibly hope to gain by
showcasing his own hypocrisy? This will not be the last time we will see obstructive partisan tactics from sore losers whose eyes stay trained on the next election cycle. These types strive to undermine any progress that can be made on behalf of the voters to further their own self-serving interests.

If there is no provision in election protocol to account for this specific circumstance, then the logical step would be to create one for next time, not to filibuster in an attempt to strip Minnesota voters of representation for some undetermined period of time. This is probably not the best of strategies for a party who lost 7 (and probably 8) senate seats, and will be sitting with 58 or 59 dems and 2 independents who have tendencies to lean toward the dems.

Being from Texas, I can tell you that sucking up will not come easy for John Cornyn, but I say let him show his true colors. He'll ultimately end up cutting off his nose to spite his own face.
How is she using her religion to gain power and money?
Can you show me facts on that one? Standing up for what you believe in and letting it guide your decisions is not using it to gain power or money. I don't know why people think that someone can check their faith at the door. It's not like taking off your coat. It is ingrained in you. It is something you will base all your decisions, big and small, off of. Since when are good morals a bad thing?

So you think she should just sit at home and knit shirts and keep her pretty little mouth shut? That is completely unfair. We need more strong women in this country. I'm sorry that you had those experiences with women, but you can't lump all strong women into the same boat.




bait and switch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiq3I0o_SHA
Bait and switch............
They were hornswoggled.
If he fails
We will succeed. We as a country together will succeed. It means we will not be thrown into socialism. Even Vladimir Putin has been telling the leaders of our country that they know first hand about socialism and it is not a path we want to take. So if he fails it means the country will succeed. Who wouldn't want that. It's not a person thing, if there was anyone else in the country trying to drag our country down the same hole I would be against it. I was born and raised in a free America. I grew up with the beliefs instilled in me that I can do anything I set my mind on doing and the harder I work the more I will benefit. But those ideas are now eroding away and the people who are trying to be successful and get ahead are being punished. I love the country the way it was (before Bush and Clinton that is). I love our founding fathers for risking their lives to create two of the most important documents of our history - The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. I don't want to see it re-written and our laws changed. It is perfect the way it is and nobody should be trying to re-write or do away with it (or just ignore it altogether). So if failure is the option so the country will succeed then by all means. This has nothing to do with past presidents and what they did or didn't do. This has to do with everything that is going on now (present day) and what is being planned for in the future.

I want the country and all Americans to succeed, and I want a leader who will back that and not punish us by taxing us more and spending all our money (and the money of our kids and grandkids) while lining the pockets of the rich (themselves and their buddies). I have lived a life of hard work and honesty and why I'm being punished to pay for the people who have not been honest, who went out and bought a house they could not afford and knew they couldn't afford but bought it anyway. The ones who racked up their credit cards, not with necessities but with all the latest and greatest gadgets and entertainment type things, vacations they couldn't afford and shouldn't have, and now I'm going to be taxed to help bail them out when I have done without (last vacation I took was 4 years ago and that was to go back for my moms funeral - oh yeah, what a great vacation that was), I'm sorry, but too many people are being bailed out of things they should be responsible for. Too many companies are getting bailed out and not using the money for what it is. Too many projects are now added to that atrocity of a spending bill that in no way will benefit the country and people, and only ensure a re-election for the politician and where is it coming from???? My hard working tax dollars. Anytime anyone tries to get ahead they are being punished. I'm sorry but I don't want to see that succeed.

Too much is wrong in Washington and as much as he is an great and eloquent speaker his actions are louder.
When all else fails.....(sm)

I have no idea why I can't get the link to hold. So....


Google:  The Rachel Maddow Show


It will be the video entitled "The torture documents are in the mail."


Unless you see a link down here....trying again.


Think gain.... Soviet Union went waaaay past
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Switch fascist movement with
conservative movement and you have a winner for your very obtuse definition! All except the organic part. We liberals like to know where our food comes from whereas the conservatives don't really care as long as it's cheap and exploits poor farmers.
what it fails to take into account...
you will find this many times on this board.... that calculator does not allow for the fact the President-elect is going to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire and we will all be paying more. if you search archives you will find the link to the calculator that shows you how much more you will be paying.
Why? Because she fails to see your brilliance?
You don't need adoration from others...

Truthseeker has been around a long time on this board. We do not need your synposis of her.

Personally, I think you are full of yourself...
I know...they lied through the teeth....we had to switch channels....and they were on....sm
everywhere else too. Only dems, only one rep that I saw.


Tell a lie (and/or a bunch of lies) often enough, and it becomes the truth according to them, as reported and supported by the media.


Sickening really.
Bait & Switch Vote Changers

This is just one of many Dems who do this after time expires.  Just so y'all don't think I'm a GOP hack, Kay Baily Hutchison has gotten countless letters from me about her so-called position on things.  Now she thinks she'll be the next Gov. for TX?  Not if I can help it! 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQpklhW8jDQ


Every voter should be doing his/her homework on their politicians in order to learn these types of things.  You'll never hear about it on your so-called news.


typical O supporter, can't take the facts, so switch
to something else...your kool aid should wear off in about 6 to 8 months.
Fails to explain the support he is getting from
all over the Arab world...predominantly Sunni Moslems, BTW. You forgot the part about burning Bush in effigy.
If you would switch out of attack mode for just 1 sec, she is talking about HISTORY sm

NOT religion.  Good grief.


On 3/17, Specter denied planning to switch. Here's the quote:
(Link provided below)

In a March 17th interview with The Hill, Specter said he absolutely would not switch parties:

"[Democrats] are trying very hard for the 60th vote. Got to give them credit for trying. But the answer is no.

I'm not going to discuss private talks I had with other people who may or may not be considered influential. But since those three people are in the public domain, I think it is appropriative to respond to those questions.

I am staying a Republican because I think I have an important role, a more important role, to play there. The United States very desperately needs a two-party system. That's the basis of politics in America. I'm afraid we are becoming a one-party system, with Republicans becoming just a regional party with so little representation of the northeast or in the middle atlantic. I think as a governmental matter, it is very important to have a check and balance. That's a very important principle in the operation of our government. It's in the Constitution on separation of powers."

Thanks for the civics lecture, Arlen. Apparently this is just another one of those "inconvenient truths" that got to be more than you could actually live with, eh buddy?


I guess Harvard fails to provide that course, eh?
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When all else fails, play the race card, right?
"You have a problem with someone speaking against THIS president, cause he is black and you can't stand it!"

This is what happens when you let Janine Garafalo tell you what to think.

Puh-THETIC.
SP wardrobe fails to make silk purse from sow's ear.
How many hockey/soccer moms do you know that shop at Sak's and Neiman's?  Sour the net on Michell's makeover last summer and you will come up with some radically different rhetoric.  That $150,000 might be better sent down ticket to rescue GOP's one-woman disaster area Michelle Bachmann's tanked MN 6th district campaign against Elwyn Tinklenbeg after he raked in a cool million following her HUAC comments last Friday night.   
Yes, key word is FIGHT, you don't debate. You name call and badger, and when that fails
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Racism

Racism does not have to be whites not accepting blacks.  It can also be blacks not accepting whites.  And that does happen.  I would not approve of anybody that was trying to be a leader of this great country siding with one or the other.  They need to accept both blacks and whites.  Obviously, Obama does not think that way.  So what, if he was a teen when he wrote these books.  They should never have been published if he does not agree with what is in them. 


All this mess that is going on now did not start with George Bush.  Congress controls this country, with the president having veto power.  The Dems have been in power insofar as Congress goes for the last two years.  But it started even before then. 


Wake up, America!  You think with all our news media announcing to the world what we are getting ready to do that if Iraq had WMD they would not have known what was going on over here and what our plans were and most likely would have moved the WMD to another country. 


 


 


Now I know there isn't any racism in
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Racism

Will racism play a major roll in this election?  You betcha.  However, you cannot say that people not voting for Obama are racist.  Some of them are, but not all of them.  How many Obama supporters are voting for him just because he is black?  Probably a heck of a lot....so you have racism on both sides here.


Yesterday someone posted and used Barrack Obama's middle name and they were called racist for doing so.  I do not see how this is racist.  It is the man's name.  How can someone be racist for calling him by his name?


I seriously am tired of people playing the race card.  Yes, racism is out there and it will play a part in this election but that most definitely goes on both sides.  You have your wacko people yelling "kill him" at a McCain rally.  The media tried to say it happened again at a Palin rally, but that is untrue.  It was only yelled during a McCain speech.  That was wrong and crazy people like that are way out of line.  They are also giving good people who are McCain supporters bad names.  Then you have Obama's supporters.  There are many good people who are on Obama's side and yet there are those crazy wack jobs on his side as well who are only voting for him because he IS black and most certainly will be screaming racism if Obama should lose.


Both sides are guilty of racism.  Some are afraid of the crazy people yelling "kill him" and others are afraid of crazy Obama supporters rioting if he should lose.  It goes both ways.  So stop blaming one side or the other.  They both have nut job racists.  I'm just tired of hearing about this.


Racism
I can't help but wish that everyone making less than $50,000 a year who opposes Obama would take a few moments to sit quietly and really question him/herself about the racial question. If those folks were honest with themselves, really honest, I bet they'd be quite surprised. I can't think of any other reason why folks making $50,000 or less (much less) a year would support the Republicans, just simple racism.
Racism
And white folks haven't been raising their children to judge people by the color of their skin since, well, way back before Jim Crow--and DON'T get me started on Jim Crow. All thru my working life (40-plus years) I've been seeing sneaky racism in the legal and medical fields thru a white woman's eyes and, frankly, I'm thoroughly disgusted with those of us on the paler side of the makeup counter.
There is no racism in America, no way!

Al Sharpton doesn't have to look far for fuel...see the following story on racism in America.

On June 28 2007 a young black defendant Mychal Bell was found guilty of aggravated assault against a young white man by an all white jury despite conflicting testimony from witnesses.

His defense lawyer was incompetent at the very least and didn't even call the only adult to witness what happened to the stand. This man's testimony could have concievably blown the prosecuters case out of the water.

Originally the prosecuter tryed to charge Mychal and others with attempted murder for being involved in what was basically a fight and only backed off because of a worlwide public out cry. Learn more about the case from documents sent to me by Alan Bean, the founder of Friends of Justice a group dedicated to making sure all people are given a fair trial. You can read the documents by clicking the links below:


If you want a definition of racism...
read the creed for Obama's church...and read some of his pastor mentor's sermons...and some of the speeches and quotes of their friend Louis Farrakhan. That, my friend, is the very definition of racism. When you read the creed of the church, substitute the word "white" everywhere the word "black" is used and tell me it is not racist. We do NOT need a racist in the White House.
Racism is on both sides......not just one
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Racism....that is a bit of a stretch....
because vanilla is white? LOL. The point was that if you are preaching change, and you pick the guy who has been a senator for 30-some years and may not LIVE in DC but is certainly part of the DC establishment...that is not change, it is picking "vanilla" meaning generic, and Joe Biden is definitely a generic DC liberal. Definitely not a change from DC politics...which is exactly opposite from what Obama has been saying he wanted to do..get away from politics as usual in DC.
There is no racism in my tone......
I am just sick of nuts like him standing up there and making absolutely insane remarks, such as the "messiah" thing. And what is even worse, he has weak followers if they don't see this man for what he is. HE is a RACIST man. I have no problem calling him out on that one. He is racist, his comments are racist, and he loves to divide the races. If you don't like it, too bad. The facts aren't prety are they?


Nice racism, lis!
You should be ashamed of yourself!
I believe YOU were concerned about racism...
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Of course racism is alive and well...sm
One explanation, and I know many people who did this....people wanted to be able to say that they voted in the first black man into the white house. And that is all well and good, but they did it only to be able to say they voted him in. Period.

Obama is long on style, short on substance....and extremely short on experience.

We've elected someone who's about to get on the job training.




I have not seen any racism here. You are making
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You seem to be an expert on racism.....
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It goes MANY ways. For example, I see racism
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Ah, yes. Racism. Now it's all because of color.
People were very lavish with their criticism of Bush as a 'cowboy' etc.  He walked with a 'swagger'.  He talked funny (said nucular).  I guess these criticisms showed covert 'texism' ?  
It does not matter how racism is born...
racism is racism. All whites did not enter into the slavery trade nor discrimination nor condone it, and if it had not been for some fed-up white Republicans like Abe Lincoln slavery would not have been abolished as quickly as it was. And if it had not been for some fed-up white Republicans shoving through the Right to Vote act in the 60's, oppression would certainly be worse still today. So I would be very careful about saying all whites oppressed anyone. And that is what racism is...condemning an entire "race" for perceived injustices or perceived inferiority. To the Nation of Islam, apparently to Obama's church, to Black panthers...there is no good white person. Exactly the way the old south was in reverse. Defend it if you like...it is still virulent racism and should not be condoned for ANY reason.

So, my friend, when you talk about quotas in jobs, quotas in scholarships, being put ahead not because of hard work or actually qualifying for something like a job or a scholarship, please don't whine about how blacks or minorities are oppressed. In today's culture it should strictly be on merit, not on the color of your skin, be that white, black, yellow, red or chartreuse.

And, frankly, your last sentence sounds pretty racist itself.
Really? I would hate to see your criteria for racism

See below:


 


As a young broadcaster in the 1970s, Limbaugh once told a black caller: "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back." A decade ago, after becoming nationally syndicated, he mused on the air: "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

In 1992, on his now-defunct TV show, Limbaugh expressed his ire when Spike Lee urged that black schoolchildren get off from school to see his film Malcolm X: "Spike, if you're going to do that, let's complete the education experience. You should tell them that they should loot the theater, and then blow it up on their way out."

In a similar vein, here is Limbaugh's mocking take on the NAACP, a group with a ninety-year commitment to nonviolence: "The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."

When Carol Moseley-Braun (D-IL) was in the U.S. Senate, the first black woman ever elected to that body, Limbaugh would play the "Movin' On Up" theme song from TV's "Jeffersons" when he mentioned her. Limbaugh sometimes still uses mock dialect -- substituting "ax" for "ask"-- when discussing black leaders.

Such quotes and antics -- many compiled by Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) for our 1995 book -- offer a whiff of Limbaugh's racial sensibility. So does his claim that racism in America "is fueled primarily by the rantings and ravings" of people like Jesse Jackson. Or his ugly reference two years ago to the father of Madonna's first child, a Latino, as "a gang-member type guy" -- an individual with no gang background.


because these statements do demonstrate racism
and I people should be aware they were made. As I said, but you obviously didn't take the time to think about, I am against ANY racism.
YOur ignorance and racism is showing
OBAMAJAD? Could your side please give the "he's a Muslim" chant a rest?

Or do you enjoy looking stupid?
Nothing you have said here can change the racism reflected
Two words...gag me.
T How Lame Are You/What a Joke RE: Racism

Where to start? I simply presented a logical argument predicated on definitions the original poster was obviously unfamiliar with. So far, there is nothing in this current post that even begins to address the challenge to show what part of that "dense" post was not prejudiced, bigoted and racist, seeing as how there is no proof presented here to back up these tiresome wild-eyed accusations.
I was 15 years old when the March on Washington occurred. My mom was a political junkie, a trait that I began exhibiting at around age 12, since I admired her so much...the same way that Obama obvious admired his own mother. So I began paying attention to the civil rights movement when they desegregated my school when I was around 11. You see, down South, they were a bit slow to comply with Brown vs the Board of Educaton..and in my state, they fought tooth and nail all the way up into the early 70s before complying with the order.
I also paid attention to all things racial, because I came from what would be considered an elite, privileged background and was raised by 2 black women (maid and nanny) and a black man (gardener) who were employed in my Highland Park, Dallas Texas household (BUSH country). Back then, it was not considered "fashionable" for the wealthy to do "hands-on parenting." So, I know a thing or two about racism, bigotry and prejudice first hand. I never understood why those 3 kind, wise souls (who I loved more than anyone else in the world and every bit as I loved my own parents) were treated so horribly every time we were out in public. Consequently, I took an avid interest in the civil rights movement at the tender age of 12, began reading everything I could get my hands on regarding the subject. At age 16, I started becoming active in those movements.
Now, these facts are for you. Obama was born in 1961. The march on Washington occurred in August of 1963. The Selma to Montgomery march occurred in 1965. Those marches were not exactly spontaneous events, but rather were a culmination of years of work and organization, and Obama's "blabby" in Selma abouthis parents is perfectly chronologically consistent, unlike your LAME attempt to educate me.
Beyond that, I refuse to address this racial diatribe. I learned at an early age to DESPISE racists and have very little to nothing to do with them. I will, however, confront racism whenever I see it, without fail. Over these last 5 decades, I have developed a keen sense that enabled me to sniff out the stench of racism 1000 miles away. You, dear, are a consummate prejudiced, bigoted racist and as such, have absolutely no credibility no matter how vehemently you doest protest.
One more thing. Prejudice, bigotry and racism is an anachronism that belongs buried far back in that shameful chapter of our history and is definitely a huge part of what kind of change voters are seeking in this election...the goal being to march forward, not backwards. I for one will be on that march forward until the day I take my last ragged breath.


Racism works both ways
You say your white relative may not vote for a black man but where I live racism is alive and well coming from the black community as well. It is taught to their children, which is very sad, and they bring it into the schools as well.


If you are bothered by the racism that this election

then what about mysogyny and sexism? 


There are some Obama supporters out there sporting some Palin-bashing shirts. 


If you dont' like Obama, you are probably a racist, right?  


Oh, but there is no hate thrown at Sarah Palin?  Take a look at the link below and see for yourself.


Now, I ask you, are all of you Sarah-haters mysogynists and sexist? 


Generalizations will get you nowhere.  Yes, I am sure people won't vote for Obama because he is black, and many blacks will vote for him JUST because he is black, REGARDLESS of his policies.  I think the huge majority of people that aren't voting for him are not in agreement with his policies or don't like his character.  THAT is NOT being racist.  THAT is seeing through the rhetoric and coolness for what he truly stands for and not taking his bait.  No thanks.  I'm voting McCain. 


See the link.  (Warning, adults only)


 


Wanna talk racism?

The link below is to a radio show -- no film -- just talk.  These people could care less about the stances of either candidate or their running mates, they just want O to be elected, maybe because of his color?  They certainly don't give any other justifiable reason.



http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3


A Sharpton on TV speaking of racism still against
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Oh didn't you know...racism only pertains to