Dems have stolen/manufactured votes for Franken in this election...wonderful stuff
Posted By: that partisan politics, huh. on 2009-01-03
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Oh, sure. The left always claims election are stolen,
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Isnt it pitiful? Talk about stolen election!. I am in
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Isn't it wonderful to have a pres WHO DIDN'T STEAL THE ELECTION? AND WHO sm
won by such a large margin???? Poor Gore had to sit through Bush's inauguration knowing he had 500,000 more votes. This is WONDERFUL!
Or the dems could unite and leave the country like they promised to last election.
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crisis manufactured by Bush
they knew about this for weeks -- trying to railroad dems before election.
Cite resources. Which machines (manufactured by)?
Do you really want to go there?
Stolen, just like in 2000
I guess it is alright if the Republicans steal an election, but not the Dems???
Right, so that is not a "cut",but free money stolen
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2 elections stolen? baloney. Meaningless war? Go
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Most of his votes are not voting votes....
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O's votes support his claims. JM's votes support Bush.
Believe what you like. Voting records tell the tale. Could use a few more details on that budget. Just what programs will he slash and and how many tax dollars will be directed away from middle class and in the direction of the rich? How much longer can the infrastructure afford to crumble?
JM adopted O's withdrawal plan when he saw how well it went over with the public in an election year. He flipped on the war once. What's to stop him from flipping again once elected? The nation is war weary. Some prefer a surge in diplomacy, not military answers to diplomatic failures. Ask the Iraqis who have lost more than 100,000 among them how sucessful the war has been. Obama has always understood that the OBL/Taliban live in Afganistan, not Iraq. JM, a little slow on the draw there.
I see nothing in JMs platform that backs his claims about transparency. I see specific plan on the O side under technology initiatives, continued initiatives which originated under Clinton and were reversed during the undercover Bush administration. Pork barrel spending for pubs means something different than it does to dems. Slash the poor to give to the rich? Hard seel in the current economic frefall. Also find nothing in JM's plan to address runaway contract corruption in Iraq. Having Halliburton and companies there props up those struggling American corporations. Show me the plan.
Antiglobal/antidiplomacy. No surprise there. This is about the futureworld, not American imperial delusions of grandeur. So much data on the drilling scam being an immediate relief for gas problems out there it is not worth addressing. Can you say T-Bone Pickens, i.e., we can't drill our way out of this one. He should know. Been an oil man all his life.
Since these are just a few, what else do you have up your sleeve?
Ventura was actually not bad at all, and Franken (sm)
is infinitely preferable to the slimy Norm Coleman. I wouldn't have voted for Norm under any circumstances (even if running against Chuck E. Cheese) after I saw the vicious character attacks that essentially his campaign issued.
Al Franken on Rush Limbaugh
Al Franken on Rush Limbaugh
I've heard Al Franken say this on a television interview. He repeated it in an interview with Geov Parrish at WorkingforChange.com (05/02/05) to which we can conveniently link:
GP: What do you think the differences are between you and Limbaugh?
AF: I'm glad you asked me that. I use this example a lot. A few months ago, Rush was talking about the minimum wage. Conservatives like to portray it that no one has to raise a family on the minimum wage, the only people who get the minimum wage are teenagers who want to buy an i-Pod. So Rush says, "75 percent of all Americans on the minimum wage, my friends, are teenagers on their first job." And one of the researchers brings this to me, with a smile, and I say, "Well, can you look it up?" And they look it up, the researcher goes to something called the Bureau of Labor Statistics. 60.1 percent of Americans on minimum wage are twenty and above. 39.9 percent, then, are either teenagers or below twelve (laughs). I had several jobs as a teenager, so you figure, what, 13 percent might be teenagers in their first job. Not 75 percent. So where did Rush get his statistic? Well, he got it directly from his butt. It went out his butt, into his mouth, out the microphone, into the air, into the brains of dittoheads. And they believe this stuff.
So we get our labor statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. He gets his from the Bureau of Rush's Butt. And that's the difference. We don't do that. That's one of the main differences.
Coulter/Franken/Moore
Not even in the same league. Moore and Franken care deeply for our country and presents opinions and facts to make people aware and think about issues. Coulter churns out books with juvenile insults as titles.
I cannot say about Franken....and whether he loves the country or not...
but to say Michael Moore cares deeply about this country is ridiculous. One has only to listen to what he says. He holds this country in contempt.
Ann Coulter makes juvenile insults...okay fine. Franken makes bigoted hateful insults...especially about gays. Pot calling kettle black, big time. If Ann Coulter was on your side of the fence making juvenile insults about Republicans you would be lauding her as well. Kinda transparent...and extreme partisan. I condemned them all...you condemned only the Republican. That speaks for itself.
Al Franken brings class
Just what we need in there.
I've been an Al Franken fan for many years.
He has been a very knowledgeable political pundit for a long time. If you knew anything about him, of course, you would know. So I guess you think that anyone that wasn't necessarily born into politics isn't capable of doing a fantastic job in their position? How many small-minded of you.
The truth about Al Franken/Air America that you won't find on the
http://www.airamericaradio.com/node/904
Statement:
Sept 7, 2005 - Danny Goldberg, CEO of Air America Radio, announced today that the Board of Directors of Piquant, LLC, owner of Air America Radio, has accelerated its payment schedule and has deposited into an escrow account the full payment of $875,000 they had pledged to give the Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club to compensate the Club for money it loaned to Evan Cohen and Progress Media, the previous owners of the Network. The funds will remain in escrow until the New York Department of Investigation , which is currently reviewing the Club's finances, completes its work and authorizes payment.
Goldberg also issued the following statement:
An article that appeared on September 7 th in the New York Sun suggested that Al Franken , host of The Al Franken Show on Air America Radio, is somehow involved with the loan from the Gloria Wise Club.
Al Franken does not have and never had any responsibility for this loan. His role at Air America was then and remains today as on-air talent.
Air America is cooperating fully with that Department of Investigation's inquiry into the financial affairs of the Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club. Air America itself is not under investigation. And none of this has anything to do with Al Franken .
Franken did everything that he could to help save Air America in the Network' s difficult early days including waiving claims against the original corporation and its executives that started Air America making it possible for Piquant, LLC, the new company that acquired Air America, to function.
The loan from the Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club to Air America was arranged by Evan Cohen who briefly ran Air America while simultaneously serving on the Board of the Club.
As has been widely publicized, a group of investors, including RealNetworks CEO Rob Glaser, created a new company, Piquant, LLC, which took control of the Network and by November 2004, had settled all claims between themselves and Cohen and Sorenson and their companies Progress Media and Radio Free America. Neither Cohen nor Sorenson has had any involvement with Air America since that time.
The Sun piece refers to a document that Franken signed. Conservative columnist Michelle Malkin, wrote in her blog on Sept 7 th that Franken's signature is on the settlement agreement in which Piquant LLC agreed to repay the loan. This is not true.
The document is clearly a SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. It was created for investors, executives and some talent, including Franken, to waive their claims against Cohen and Sorenson, in return for which Cohen and Sorenson waived any claims against Piquant, or its investors or employees.
This was not an agreement to which the Boys and Girls Club was a party. Settlement letters between Piquant and the Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club were exchanged several months later in March 2005. Franken was not involved with any of these discussions or decisions.
In the November agreement, some potential Air America liabilities were listed in an appendix. This appendix was created as part of the mutual waiver of claims between the Piquant investors and Cohen and Sorenson and did not apply to Franken, who was not an investor. Franken's role in the agreement was simply to waive his own claims in order to facilitate the transaction and allow the Network to survive under new ownership.
On March 28 th , 2005 Jeanette Graves, President of the Board of the Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club, wrote to Glaser concluding the negotiations with the Club, as follows: The Club accepts the offer you described. I want you to know that on behalf of the children and families we serve, the Club and its directors are very appreciative of Air America 's willingness to commit to a repayment schedule.
On August 5 th , 2005 at the request of the New York City Department of Investigation, Air America made the first scheduled payment into an escrow account rather than directly to Gloria Wise.
On Sept 7 th , 2005 the Board of Piquant accelerated the payment schedule and wired the balance of the money so that the full $875,000 is now in that escrow account.
Cornyn threatens filibuster over Franken
GOP campaign chief John Cornyn (R-Texas) vowed Friday that Republicans would block any attempt by Democrats to seat AL Franken when the Senate gavels into order next week.
Franken is leading Republican incumbent Norm Coleman by a slim 49-vote margin, but more than 1,000 votes have yet to be counted and legal challenges remain.
In a conference call with reporters today, Cornyn, the newly selected head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee said: “I think it’s very clear that the people of Minnesota and the courts of Minnesota” should choose between Franken and Coleman, “and not politicians in Washington, D.C.”
“It is the height of arrogance for any leader in Washington, D.C. to tell Minnesota voters whose votes should count and whose votes shouldn’t count,” Cornyn added.
The Texas senator was responding to comments made by Minnesota’s Democratic junior senator, Amy Klobuchar, suggesting Franken should be seated in the upper chamber if he is certified as the winner by the State Canvassing Board. The Board is scheduled to meet Saturday to count at least 1,350 absentee ballots.
"If the Canvassing Board declares a winner, that should be our senator," Klobuchar said last week. Even if a court challenge were to follow, Klobuchar said, "[The Senate] could seat a senator pending the litigation."
But Cornyn said Republicans were prepared to filibuster any attempt to seat Franken.
“There will be no scenario in which Republicans agree” to seat Franken without the complete resolution of legal cases surrounding the election and a certification from the state’s Democratic secretary of state and Republican governor, Cornyn said.
As the recount drags on, legal obstacles await. On Wednesday, Coleman filed a lawsuit alleging that election officials had not adopted uniform vote counting standards across the state. And Cornyn was quick to note that any Minnesota citizens have the right to file legal challenges of their own in the days ahead.
“I really think we need to be patient and allow the process to work its way through,” Cornyn said.
This stuff again. I thought this OWG stuff went out in the mid 90's.
There is much more to the world than your little conspiracy-laden corner of it. Besides, the ACLU fights these kinds of things tooth and nail. Thank Godess for the libbies.
Murtha, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Al Franken!, ughh!.
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LOL. 3 more votes....obviously you ...
don't know who the heck she is....lol.
only two votes...
regardless of the weight of their votes, it was a "yes" to a bill that should be better. i still want to know what the crap this "tax exemption for wooden arrows made for use by children" is all about????
Wonderful
Wow! We agree! Wonderful. :O)
Thank you for such a wonderful
contribution to this board.
Have a pleasant day. 
Wonderful? For who? Certainly not
the American people.
Slick and glib speaker. Yes.
Too good to be true? Yes.
Loving father and husband? Yes.
Cool as a cucumber? Yes.
Good for our country? NO. Unless you want to live like the Cuban and Russian people.
WONDERFUL????
I support abortion rights 100%. Do I think it is wonderful, no, but I think it is a personal choice. Strange choice of words you used...
thank you for that wonderful
youtube of our pledge of allegiance where it says, just like I said above, one NATION under God. Not one America as you so incorrectly typed above. Thanks for proving me right though. Kudos!
This is wonderful.
Finally, some good news on the domestic jobs front. Thanks for posting.
And why would we thank him when it took 217 votes for this to pass?
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It does not matter who votes for it or against it....
it is morally wrong. Because it is legal does not make it right. While I will obey the law of the land, as my faith teaches me to do, I will continue to speak out against a procedure that is murder, no matter who chooses it. See link if you do not believe that life begins at conception. View that and tell me that abortion is not killing a living baby and then defend it as right because someone chooses it. That choice is choosing to kill a child. The one portion of this. If you feel that a woman needs a choice of whether or not to kill a baby, so be it, that is your right and I respect your right to say it. I do not and will continue to speak against it, and I hope that you believe it is my right to do that as well. Some of us must speak for the most innocent who cannot speak for themselves.
http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=76c82299-9a7a-4656-8ec4-0f6fc1fd6ae0&f=06/64&fg=copy
If it doesn't, whoever votes against it
will probably have a severe media backlash. They made these changes so that the two main arguments - that it covers illegal immigrants and rich people - are discredited. If it doesn't pass, I'm sure they're going to have to deal with the media.
90% yes, but most of the votes were unanimous, so
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Only 11 more votes and it would have passed. nm
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They are reporting they have the 12 votes they need. sm
Just like the Senate, they are making it clear they do not care what their constituents think. The peasants need to start getting mad and show up with their torches and pitchforks.
The more votes they get, the more viable they become. sm
I would still rather vote my principles than hold my nose and vote for a Nazi and a Communist.
Well I wish they could get enough votes to become viable but (sm)
I doubt that they will. I understand your feelings though because I share in them. I just feel like I have to at least choose one as better than the other and make my vote count, because one or the other of them is going to win, and I feel like right now every vote is needed.
If we could just get their votes counted
sure would be a wonderful thing for them. How many of their votes already been disqualified in Virginia, I believe I heard 200,000?
soldiers votes
you know, on the news last evening, in a very mild manner, it was mentioned that maybe only 30% of the overseas military's votes will be counted this election, due to mail problems, time constraints, etc. OUTRAGEOUS!!! To boot, this also happened 4 yr ago, and still no one has fixed it (tho 1 senator is allegedly trying). Where are all the hanging chad type screaming complaints, the concern for the (hate this word now): disenfranchised???? IMO this would not be a hard problem to fix, so why is it still broke? A soldier's vote should be most definitely counted, WITHOUT FAIL. Grrrrrr. not to mention, that in Ohio, reported also last night, the homeless can now list their park benches as their addresses, and vote. Mind you, you cannot collect help in the form of welfare/food stamps etc without a solid normal address, but you can vote. nevermind that the homeless are likely uninformed. (don't feed or house them, just give them a ballot and tell them who to vote for...) all the while, our military's votes are casually tossed aside, with an "oh well..." i am still fuming the next day.
With over 200 electorial votes sm
Obama is most likely the winner. I,too, congratulate him and Mr. Biden on their apparent victory, although I may not be happy about it. I just pray our country can survive what is coming.
We could only hope votes would be
changed, but don't think very many states allow that.
When all is said and done, I bet the total of ALL votes in MN will be....
more than the total of registered voters in the entire state of MN. Come on, give us a break. Do you honestly expect us to believe there are that many "missing" ballots? This has been going on since November 5. Where could those pesky 1,000 votes have been hidden all this time, blast those nasty votes.
That said, I have a question....with all this back room hocus-pocus, will the Republicans be able to filibuster? There are not 60 Dems yet are there?
Wonderful news
So glad your husband is home. I know you must be thrilled. My brother-in-law came home right before Christmas to 4 kiddos and my sister who missed him terribly. He was in Kuwait years ago and just finished his second tour in Iraq. I think he is retiring soon.
However, he doesn't support the war and now votes (mostly) democrat. I think he and my sis are fighting beween Obama and Hillary :-)
It would be wonderful if it was that simple....
so let's just make it REAL simple. If you want on SCHIP, you have to pay an additional 3% off the top in your income taxes. Democrats in Congress want to expand it, 3% off the top of all their salaries from now on to fund it. That would probably take care of it for years to come. If not, then start down the registered Democrats' tax rolls and if they favor the program, 3% off the top of their salaries to pay for it. Don't force it on people who are not going to use it, who pay their own premiums, to pay for it. Let those who want to expand it fund it. Simple as that. Sounds fair to me.
Hillary is wonderful
Hillary is wonderful so is every other democrat running..ANYONE is better than the tired old men running as republicans. I would vote for my dog before I would vote for a republican. We need four years of peace and prosperity and building our reputation in the world and healing this country and fixing all the destructive things this administration has done here and abroad. Hillary, when she worked as a lawyer, was one of the top five lawyers in America. Her IQ is higher than Bill and that has to be quite high as Bill is quite an intelligent man. Contrast that to the person in the WH now. I think his IQ must be around 75 to 90.
Thank you for your wonderful responses!
I am truly impressed by all of the posters who responded to this question in such a compassionate and intelligent way. You have renewed my faith in the people who post on this board, and for that I thank you!
Personally, I think that any medicine that can help relieve human suffering should, without a doubt, be legal and made available to those in need. The voters of California or any other state that wish to have marijuana legalized should have that right without interference from the federal governent.
Again, thank you!
Welcome to the wonderful world of
Been typing derm for FAR too long to ever make the mistake of using a tanning bed.
And, isn't it wonderful that these animals
creatures of the wild.....wonder how many of them are in favor of abortion? Natural animal instinct to care for their young.
Its a Wonderful Life
Warren Buffet and Barack Obama
George Baily and Mr. Potter are finally friends George will be the richest man in town!
What a wonderful quote!
Thank you so much for sharing this timeless quote with us today, zoesnana. It seems so fitting in light of our current economic status. President Jefferson was a very wise man!
Wonderful post. :) nm
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