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Who cares....that's just business as usual in Detroit. sm

Posted By: MT and worn out on 2009-06-26
In Reply to: Conyers wife pleads guilty to bribery - just me

That is not as flippant as it sounds. Detroit has been sucking off the gov't teat for as long as I have lived in Michigan. They got rid of the mayor because of stuff like this. The Synagro scandal even reached over to my side of the state, in Grand Rapids. So there was a big who-ha and then all the righteous indignation died down and life went on.

IMHO Detroit needs to be cut off Michigan, floated up the St. Lawrence Seaway and out into the ocean. Maybe somebody out there will take pity on them and give them a home.


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Shuttin Detroit down!

This is an excellent song by John Rich - check it out!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXRibzKERpU


Acorn voter fraud in Detroit...
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008809140383
Gee...they left out the Mayor of Detroit whining for money. What's up with that? sm
Detroit is just one of many with their hands out to the feds. Detroit has been a drain on the rest of Michigan for years. The best thing that can happen to Detroit is to cut it loose and float it up the St. Lawrence Seaway and then the rest of the state can get back to business...if there is any left that is.
Kenya has no business in the business of the U.S.

I may be an idjit myself and I am certainly the most cynical of the cynical.  While I'm about it, I think Obama's mom was a bit of an idjit for making the decisions she made in life but I guess that was her business. 


As for GWB, he certainly does deserve some discussion.  Like why did he not straight away pardon those 2 border patrol agents who were the target of the worst miscarriage of justice I have personally ever seen?  Could there be something synister there?  I think so.


I am most certainly NOT a liberal and by the heart of conservatives, I am NOT a conservative either.  I do agree with them (if they really believe it) that abortion and gay marriage are wrong.  HOWEVER, my opinion being stated, I believe those are moral issues and as such belong to God and not the government.  I also do not believe God requires my assistance in passing judgement on them.


Soooo....with all the problems we were facing, t here are many more important issues than Obama's birth certificate.  I drug my feet in voting for Obama but I do  have a glimmer of hope that he is working to at least get some plan in place for the day he is inaugerated.  Everyone deserves a chance.  The American people have spoken so it's time to put this b/c nonissue to rest and get to the business of importance...like millions of people projected to be unemployed and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, which if something isn't done and soon we are headed for the worst times most of you have ever seen and you'll have enough to worry about just wondering how you're going to put food on the table.


You don't have it quite right, as usual. sm
McNasty called Letterman to cancel his appearance on the show because he had to leave for Washington DC "immediately" to help fix the financial mess, and he was getting ready to board a jet (right then).

Then, McNasty was incidentally noted (and filmed) to be taping a show with Katie Couric at the VERY SAME TIME he would have been on Letterman. He lied to Letterman. Letterman is angry, and rightly so. As Keith Olbermann, his fill-in guest for McDemented, "You (to Letterman) got dissed by McCain."

And another thing, sam, I watched several different stations last night. All people I saw said the meeting in Washington DC was with a specified committee which did not want the candidates to come. The committee wanted to keep politics out of the meeting. They said to not come. So, McCain just took it upon himself to make this self-fulfilling political ploy. All the newscasters and pundits said the same thing--McCain was using that as a political ploy as his ratings are sinking and he's scared.

Since they were requested not to attend the meeting is the reason Obama said he was available if they need him, the statement which so angered you yesterday.


Well, on that I have something to say....as usual. LOL

First, the clothes just goes to prove that the RNC made Palin into what THEY wanted her to be.  But she had to agree to it.  So she's  no "reformer."


As for "REV" (and I use the title loosely) Wright.  Of course Obama knew he was a radical racist, no doubt in my mind about THAT.  That is my BIG problem with him.  I could not care less about Ayers of what?  50 years ago?.  I've seen no evidence that Obama is a terrorist or for that matter that Ayers is this day though I believe he ought to be in prison for what he did.  I also don't care about where Obama was born or whatever else.  Usually a married couple hangs together so I'm assuming if Michelle is the radical racist, and I believe she is, then he would probably go along with her.  Even with this MAJOR issue I have with him, I will still vote AGAINST McCain and take a chance.  Hopefully the Congress will have enough members to stop any foolishness.


I wonder why the pubs aren't railing on the "Rev" Wright/Obama association instead of the stupid stuff.  Hopefully pubs and dems have bothered to go to his church's website and read up on what they preach.  I would assume that all members go along with it or they wouldn't be attending church there.  You can bet on one thing....if McCain's church preached any such rhetoric, the dems would be all over it...but then there's the "p.c." issue.


As usual, delusional.
We suppose you'd be the first to whine about freedom from health care worries with a national health care system, or, say, four to six paid weeks off a year, and oh, say, a guaranteed pension for granny when she gets too old to hobble to work at Wal-Mart. You don't want workplace protection for America's workers, or a living wage, or standards of ethics for corporations as well as the people they hire. You like seeing America's wealth funneled to a few happy guys at the top while 90% of those who actually work to produce goods and services get the crumbs.

There are equitable ways to structure law and government and business that both encourage free market enterprise and keep acceptable standards of income and benefits for the average American. However, you're so busy rah-rahing a system that history tells us leads nowhere except total annihilation and collapse that you don't seem to be aware of history at all. Where do you think you're going to be when it caves? - that's what happens to capitalism when you remove all obligation and restriction - and taxes - from that top 1%.

And just to show you how utterly and ridiculously misguided your loyalities are, take note of the fact that YOU apparently have swallowed hook, line and sinker the notion that it's preferable to tax hell out of wages and leave the capital profits of the rich alone, rather than have NO taxes on earned wages, and tax hell out of superfluous capital gains as it should be, and is, in every better society on earth. You're hooked totally against your better interests and the better interests 99% of American citizens in fact. Sorry they've done that to you and hope some day you come around and see the current system for what it is, and stop fighting so hard to make yourself a slave.



Last-worditis, as usual.
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As usual, still no response other....(sm)
than a Dr. Phil tantrum.
as usual....can't defend...

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I saw this interview. As usual, . . . sm
all weasel, whiny and blustering, and no answers.  SOS, and losing more credibility with each passing day!! And he's the best they got?!
There you go again JTBB. As usual,
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Definitely! And insightful, as usual.
I was only addressing the question of why Obama did not just flip the magical ''O'' switch and instantly change this.  Not whether he actually should.  When a US politician campaigns with the slogan ''two chickens in every pot'' does anybody still believe him in this day and age?  If so, I've got some swamp land I'd like to unload...
She said let's debate. Instead you want to argue as usual.

You're delusional. As usual.
Nobody told Army Mom not to speak or even that she wasn't entitled to her opinion. But she DID seem to feel she was speaking for all soldiers and seemed to be totally unaware that most soldiers hold a different view of the war than she does. That unawareness can't go unchallenged. Read any military message board and you'll see for yourself that it's an ostrich-head-in-the-sand kind of thing. Soldiers aren't stupid. Many of them know the deal. Many pretend they don't. Some just like it and don't care why they're there. There are all kinds of opinions on the message boards, not just one view. But most want to get the heck out and come home because they know they've been used and set up and put in harm's way for no good reason. Anyone who's been paying attention knows it too.


Imagine that; the usual suspects who
more to offer than more of the same swiftboating as the Kool-Aid drunks applaud them.
again...as usual...paid no attention...
The taking one more shot post appeared LONG before your cease fire....you just had not seen it yet. But it would not have mattered. I didn't read this latest diatribe...too tired and really don't give a darn. And I will give you a clue dear, one of those 4-letter words...I did not say the GOP then does not resemble the GOP now....in fact I agree whole-heartedly. The GOP has turned into Democrat lite. Which is why I don't belong to the grand old party anymore. Only register as Repub in primary years because if I didn't, I couldn't vote, and I want to have a say, no matter how small. You should really ask questions before you jump off the deep end...but you don't care, because you are always right, aren't you? Speaking from that high horse of moral authority. You must have the word "bigot" in your shortcuts, you sure invoke it enough. LOL. Really too bad that just you typing it here doesn't make it true....or maybe it is, the gospel according to Globetrotter....LOL geezzz.
As usual. Dodging the issue.
Your comfort zone has everything to do with why you "won't go there."
Well by all means, in the usual fairness...
of the as-far-from-democratic-Democratic Party...guilty until proven innocent, bash, belittle, and then turn right around in the SAME post and accuse someone else of the same. You need to get a new schtick. YOur number one does not have as much experience as the Repub #2. Yet you keep bringing experience into the conversation.

As to self destruct, not seeing it. Got a little bounce and sucked ALL the air out of the britney spears stage speech.

I am not at all underestimating the clintons....your #1 is, and the DNC is.

Yes, by all means, toe that party line. lol.

As far as your last line...THANK GOD for that!! And may i remind you, on the issue of experience...when Hillary Clinton ran for her NY state senate seat, she had NO experience in government whatsoever, unless you consider running around behind Bill cleaning up his messes experience. She had held absolutely NO legislative positions but I am sure you would agree she has been an effective senator...right?

Puhlezzzzz. Double standard is SHOWING. And all Bill had done before he became Prez was be a governor. Double standard is SHOWING.

geeeez. lol.
What I saw was old washington poltiics as usual....
and a new fresh face and real change. Guess which was which. Biden is the poster boy for what is WRONG with this country.
Oh, but please try to make it look like more than one of you is posting, as usual. Please? nm
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As usual, quite the opposite is true.
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That's the usual plan of attack. Buckle up! nm

Nope. Because he DOES have experience in Washington as usual....
THAT was the point that I am sorry you missed, I should have been more clear. I apologize. Sarah Palin is the only one in this race who is not Washington politics as usual, and McCain is the only one saying Washington needs to be cleaned up and he means both parties. THAT is what we need. REAL change. Not more of the same old Washington politics.

And he does have experience in socialism and is invested in it. That kind of experience, with all due respect, is not what the country needs...in my opinion.
Did they move your usual voting place? sm
Several polling places in a town of about 75,000 about 60 miles from here were moved just 2 days before the election. It was on the news Sunday night. I have to wonder what the reasoning behind this was and how many people didn't get that news?

I'm glad you finally got to vote!
Obama - No change, just politics as usual

So much for a more transparent administration. It seems to be just more of politics as usual. So, Obama is having personnel problems already. He has not even been in office 3 weeks and now TWO of his cabinet members have tax problems? First it was Geithner who "forgot" he had to pay taxes plus had an illegal working for him. And now Tom Daschle??


   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28958689


Hmmm...let me see...when I had "tax problems" it cost me that problem plus interest and fines. So, I guess if you are an Obama appointee, it doesn't matter whether you pay taxes or not. Gee......with all the problems in our economy, maybe I should get a job in Washington as an Obama appointee. In like Flynn in my opinion.


 


I am so glad I didn't drink the kool-aid.



 


 


Right! Beck is a threat to the left so as usual,
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oops was typing faster than usual - I meant
you had already decided before the debate began that you believed Biden had won.
backwards as usual, it's because BUSH DVETOED REGULATION sm
My goodness, do you not have any of the facts? I'm finished with you.

As usual, bringing up the past...how 'bout something original...
your inexperienced leader is already in over his head. It's okay sweetie, you'll get used to hearing your leader bashed and getting no respect. We had to endure that for 8 years now you will for the next 4.
who cares
I dont care what the neocons think or say about me, my beliefs, my words.  When a conservative gets ticked off at my words, Im actually quite proud.  Im glad Bush and his ilk are screwing up badly because when we go to the polls it is the republicans that will be hurt the most.  I have seen more people registering as democrat this year than I ever have.  The shape America is in right  now, due to Bush and the republican controlled Congress, would make me ashamed to be a republican.  The rest of the world was astonished when he was voted in last November.  We liberals have nothing to lose and only to gain by all of his screw ups.
LOL, who cares.
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Who cares?

Who really cares? sm
The thing is, if we had to register, it would solve the problem.  Anyways, if you feel that way, don't read or post there. It's pretty easy.
Who cares? nm
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Who really cares...
except you???
Who cares?
Is this all you have to do all day? Too bad you don't get paid for it.
Who cares
I particularly could care less if she had a three-headed baby, never mind that she had one at all. She's gone, the republican party lost. As they say...let lying dogs lie (at least I think that's a saying LOL).

I think there is enough corruption in our own government and problems in our country than to be focusing on Palin's daughter.

Brother....even when they lose and are out of the spotlight some people can't let it go.

I think we should focus on issues like...

What's up with all these bail-outs. There has been so many I don't even know who is bailing out who and how many more trillions are going to be spent so the rich can remain rich while we all sink. All I know is everyone seems to be jumping on the bandwagon and getting approved to be given money - please don't ask me to explain because like I said there so many I just don't understand the whole thing except that people in govt are lying to us. All I understand is that people like you and I are going to end up paying for it.

Also under Obama's plan I see the rich getting richer and the middle getting poorer and I'm not quite sure I understand what is going to happen to the poor. I think probably they are going to lower the middle income so they we are in with the poor (after all it is only fair to give our hard earned money away to make us poor like them).

I see very hard times ahead. My dad just was laid off, in January his wife will be laid off, my BIL is out of work, my SIL will most likely be laid off, my other BIL's company is downsizing, he may be out of work, and my other SIL's company closed their doors and she is out of work. My DH is trying to find something to be retrained in so he can get a job. In our town we used to have 2 pages of employment opportunities, now we have 1/2 page. DH talked to a school up north today. They told him that 2 huge companies closed their doors today and over 6000 people are out of work. Nobody can count on what type of jobs/training is going to be a good investment for the future. When he finally decides on one area we read that that industry is going downhill. Luckily gas is down, but food prices are still high. Cost of heating is going up (imagine that...just in time for winter), along with taxes on just about everything else. Our DMV just released that the cost to get a DL has doubled, car registration has more than doubled (but not trippled). I am seeing more and more taxes on everything. How long is it going to be before just one income will not pay the bills.

So, I'm sorry, but I could care less if or when Bristol Palin is having her baby. I'd rather hear what Obama is going to do to get people back working and the country back on it's feet.
Who cares
And his name is Levi Johnson. But guess its too much to ask the dems to show a little respect for anyone who is not a dem.

How would you like it if we kept calling Obama "Long legged Mack Daddy".

But again - who cares!
Who cares?
What....is Sarah Palin's daughter the first teenager to get pregnant out of wedlock and then decided to break up with the father of her child?  At least Bristol isn't receiving government help to pay for her child like so many young single mothers.  People make mistakes in life.  It doesn't make them bad people.  OMG....she had sex!  She should be locked up and how horrible Palin is for letting her daughter have sex.  Sarah should lose her position as governor of Alaska because she can't keep her adult daughter from having sex.  Sheesh.  Are you people even listening to how ignorant you are getting with this subject?  I'm sure none of us had premarital sex!  To those of us who did though....did that make your parents bad parents?
Who cares!!!

First of all, stop calling us teabaggers as that his highly offensive.  Secondly, we don't care about the GOP.  This wasn't a support the GOP rally.  This was a government sucks as a whole protest and stop spending our money like crazy. 


I just don't see where you guys can't see the tea parties for what they really stood for.  Surely you can't be happy with the government spending money left and right like it is.  Aren't you worried about this huge deficit that keeps growing and growing and growing.  Both pubs and crats are to blame for this and they just keep spending.  I just don't see how you guys don't get it.


LOL. That is like saying who cares about
anything other than medical transcription.
Ugh...who cares?
I really couldn't care less about their emails.  How would we like it if people were reading our emails out in public?  We know what he did and we know it was wrong.  All I care about is whether or not taxpayer's money paid for any of his rendevous with this woman.  If he paid for things himself....I couldn't care less who he had an affair with.  Not really my business.  Now if he misused taxpayer money, he should be held accountable for that just like any other politician who misuses taxpayer dollars regardless of the reason behind it.
How silly. Who cares what

she goes to the bathroom. Why don't you focus on something that matters?


 


"Who really cares."

You ask who really cares?  Well, that's the whole problem.  We really should care.  Who cares has been this administration's mantra all along and that is THE WHOLE PROBLEM>>>>>>>


As far as who cares, lots and lots of us care.  But we are basically helpless.  We need to start holding some folks accountable for their actions but as long as they are protected by the powers that be, that will never happen.


Who cares if you are liberal
This is the liberal board, no one asked you whether you wanted to be a liberal or democrat..Great..we dont need you, the majority of the country and world are left leaning and liberal..Go back to the conservative board and live your happy little insulated unrealistic life..dont bash the posters on this board because they state they are proud to be democrat or leftist or liberal..that is what this board is for..the liberal board, i.e., it is for liberals.
Again with the protesting too much. No one cares....
and it really doesn't matter to anyone other than you, I don't think. I certainly don't care. Did not mean to stir the hornet's nest by calling you by an old moniker. It's not like anyone who has been coming to the board for awhile doesn't know that anyway. And again...it doesn't matter, does it?

And if you are not angry, you are the angriest-sounding nonangry person I have come across in awhile.

:-)
We can all see how much your party cares
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Who cares about 'supposedly' nm
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ALLAH certainly cares
too bad young lady
Who cares what she has to say - she's a case
Just another. She tells him to stop being a hater????? She should eat those words.

Anybody who watches Newt and has read his books knows he is a highly intelligent gentleman who knows what he is talking about. Smart as a whip. Obama's administration would be a lot better off if they offered him a position, but then again Obama will not be uniting the two parties. It will be more separation and filled with liberals.