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That's the usual plan of attack. Buckle up! nm

Posted By: Democrat on 2007-01-31
In Reply to: Don't have to search - Horsey




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Why do you feel the desperate need to attack, attack, attack....
what IS it about Obama that inspires this kind of thing? I guess you don't get it when someone is being facetious do you? Read the whole thread...including the part about celestial choirs, which was said by one of Obama's supporters.

The smoke machines and strobe lights was definitely a joke, one can only hope they would not do something so ridiculous but who knows....Britney Spears' set designer designed that set.

So much for no celebrity status. LOL.
You don't have it quite right, as usual. sm
McNasty called Letterman to cancel his appearance on the show because he had to leave for Washington DC "immediately" to help fix the financial mess, and he was getting ready to board a jet (right then).

Then, McNasty was incidentally noted (and filmed) to be taping a show with Katie Couric at the VERY SAME TIME he would have been on Letterman. He lied to Letterman. Letterman is angry, and rightly so. As Keith Olbermann, his fill-in guest for McDemented, "You (to Letterman) got dissed by McCain."

And another thing, sam, I watched several different stations last night. All people I saw said the meeting in Washington DC was with a specified committee which did not want the candidates to come. The committee wanted to keep politics out of the meeting. They said to not come. So, McCain just took it upon himself to make this self-fulfilling political ploy. All the newscasters and pundits said the same thing--McCain was using that as a political ploy as his ratings are sinking and he's scared.

Since they were requested not to attend the meeting is the reason Obama said he was available if they need him, the statement which so angered you yesterday.


Well, on that I have something to say....as usual. LOL

First, the clothes just goes to prove that the RNC made Palin into what THEY wanted her to be.  But she had to agree to it.  So she's  no "reformer."


As for "REV" (and I use the title loosely) Wright.  Of course Obama knew he was a radical racist, no doubt in my mind about THAT.  That is my BIG problem with him.  I could not care less about Ayers of what?  50 years ago?.  I've seen no evidence that Obama is a terrorist or for that matter that Ayers is this day though I believe he ought to be in prison for what he did.  I also don't care about where Obama was born or whatever else.  Usually a married couple hangs together so I'm assuming if Michelle is the radical racist, and I believe she is, then he would probably go along with her.  Even with this MAJOR issue I have with him, I will still vote AGAINST McCain and take a chance.  Hopefully the Congress will have enough members to stop any foolishness.


I wonder why the pubs aren't railing on the "Rev" Wright/Obama association instead of the stupid stuff.  Hopefully pubs and dems have bothered to go to his church's website and read up on what they preach.  I would assume that all members go along with it or they wouldn't be attending church there.  You can bet on one thing....if McCain's church preached any such rhetoric, the dems would be all over it...but then there's the "p.c." issue.


As usual, delusional.
We suppose you'd be the first to whine about freedom from health care worries with a national health care system, or, say, four to six paid weeks off a year, and oh, say, a guaranteed pension for granny when she gets too old to hobble to work at Wal-Mart. You don't want workplace protection for America's workers, or a living wage, or standards of ethics for corporations as well as the people they hire. You like seeing America's wealth funneled to a few happy guys at the top while 90% of those who actually work to produce goods and services get the crumbs.

There are equitable ways to structure law and government and business that both encourage free market enterprise and keep acceptable standards of income and benefits for the average American. However, you're so busy rah-rahing a system that history tells us leads nowhere except total annihilation and collapse that you don't seem to be aware of history at all. Where do you think you're going to be when it caves? - that's what happens to capitalism when you remove all obligation and restriction - and taxes - from that top 1%.

And just to show you how utterly and ridiculously misguided your loyalities are, take note of the fact that YOU apparently have swallowed hook, line and sinker the notion that it's preferable to tax hell out of wages and leave the capital profits of the rich alone, rather than have NO taxes on earned wages, and tax hell out of superfluous capital gains as it should be, and is, in every better society on earth. You're hooked totally against your better interests and the better interests 99% of American citizens in fact. Sorry they've done that to you and hope some day you come around and see the current system for what it is, and stop fighting so hard to make yourself a slave.



Last-worditis, as usual.
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As usual, still no response other....(sm)
than a Dr. Phil tantrum.
as usual....can't defend...

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I saw this interview. As usual, . . . sm
all weasel, whiny and blustering, and no answers.  SOS, and losing more credibility with each passing day!! And he's the best they got?!
There you go again JTBB. As usual,
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Definitely! And insightful, as usual.
I was only addressing the question of why Obama did not just flip the magical ''O'' switch and instantly change this.  Not whether he actually should.  When a US politician campaigns with the slogan ''two chickens in every pot'' does anybody still believe him in this day and age?  If so, I've got some swamp land I'd like to unload...
She said let's debate. Instead you want to argue as usual.

You're delusional. As usual.
Nobody told Army Mom not to speak or even that she wasn't entitled to her opinion. But she DID seem to feel she was speaking for all soldiers and seemed to be totally unaware that most soldiers hold a different view of the war than she does. That unawareness can't go unchallenged. Read any military message board and you'll see for yourself that it's an ostrich-head-in-the-sand kind of thing. Soldiers aren't stupid. Many of them know the deal. Many pretend they don't. Some just like it and don't care why they're there. There are all kinds of opinions on the message boards, not just one view. But most want to get the heck out and come home because they know they've been used and set up and put in harm's way for no good reason. Anyone who's been paying attention knows it too.


Imagine that; the usual suspects who
more to offer than more of the same swiftboating as the Kool-Aid drunks applaud them.
again...as usual...paid no attention...
The taking one more shot post appeared LONG before your cease fire....you just had not seen it yet. But it would not have mattered. I didn't read this latest diatribe...too tired and really don't give a darn. And I will give you a clue dear, one of those 4-letter words...I did not say the GOP then does not resemble the GOP now....in fact I agree whole-heartedly. The GOP has turned into Democrat lite. Which is why I don't belong to the grand old party anymore. Only register as Repub in primary years because if I didn't, I couldn't vote, and I want to have a say, no matter how small. You should really ask questions before you jump off the deep end...but you don't care, because you are always right, aren't you? Speaking from that high horse of moral authority. You must have the word "bigot" in your shortcuts, you sure invoke it enough. LOL. Really too bad that just you typing it here doesn't make it true....or maybe it is, the gospel according to Globetrotter....LOL geezzz.
As usual. Dodging the issue.
Your comfort zone has everything to do with why you "won't go there."
Well by all means, in the usual fairness...
of the as-far-from-democratic-Democratic Party...guilty until proven innocent, bash, belittle, and then turn right around in the SAME post and accuse someone else of the same. You need to get a new schtick. YOur number one does not have as much experience as the Repub #2. Yet you keep bringing experience into the conversation.

As to self destruct, not seeing it. Got a little bounce and sucked ALL the air out of the britney spears stage speech.

I am not at all underestimating the clintons....your #1 is, and the DNC is.

Yes, by all means, toe that party line. lol.

As far as your last line...THANK GOD for that!! And may i remind you, on the issue of experience...when Hillary Clinton ran for her NY state senate seat, she had NO experience in government whatsoever, unless you consider running around behind Bill cleaning up his messes experience. She had held absolutely NO legislative positions but I am sure you would agree she has been an effective senator...right?

Puhlezzzzz. Double standard is SHOWING. And all Bill had done before he became Prez was be a governor. Double standard is SHOWING.

geeeez. lol.
What I saw was old washington poltiics as usual....
and a new fresh face and real change. Guess which was which. Biden is the poster boy for what is WRONG with this country.
Oh, but please try to make it look like more than one of you is posting, as usual. Please? nm
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As usual, quite the opposite is true.
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Nope. Because he DOES have experience in Washington as usual....
THAT was the point that I am sorry you missed, I should have been more clear. I apologize. Sarah Palin is the only one in this race who is not Washington politics as usual, and McCain is the only one saying Washington needs to be cleaned up and he means both parties. THAT is what we need. REAL change. Not more of the same old Washington politics.

And he does have experience in socialism and is invested in it. That kind of experience, with all due respect, is not what the country needs...in my opinion.
Did they move your usual voting place? sm
Several polling places in a town of about 75,000 about 60 miles from here were moved just 2 days before the election. It was on the news Sunday night. I have to wonder what the reasoning behind this was and how many people didn't get that news?

I'm glad you finally got to vote!
Obama - No change, just politics as usual

So much for a more transparent administration. It seems to be just more of politics as usual. So, Obama is having personnel problems already. He has not even been in office 3 weeks and now TWO of his cabinet members have tax problems? First it was Geithner who "forgot" he had to pay taxes plus had an illegal working for him. And now Tom Daschle??


   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28958689


Hmmm...let me see...when I had "tax problems" it cost me that problem plus interest and fines. So, I guess if you are an Obama appointee, it doesn't matter whether you pay taxes or not. Gee......with all the problems in our economy, maybe I should get a job in Washington as an Obama appointee. In like Flynn in my opinion.


 


I am so glad I didn't drink the kool-aid.



 


 


Right! Beck is a threat to the left so as usual,
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Who cares....that's just business as usual in Detroit. sm
That is not as flippant as it sounds. Detroit has been sucking off the gov't teat for as long as I have lived in Michigan. They got rid of the mayor because of stuff like this. The Synagro scandal even reached over to my side of the state, in Grand Rapids. So there was a big who-ha and then all the righteous indignation died down and life went on.

IMHO Detroit needs to be cut off Michigan, floated up the St. Lawrence Seaway and out into the ocean. Maybe somebody out there will take pity on them and give them a home.
oops was typing faster than usual - I meant
you had already decided before the debate began that you believed Biden had won.
backwards as usual, it's because BUSH DVETOED REGULATION sm
My goodness, do you not have any of the facts? I'm finished with you.

As usual, bringing up the past...how 'bout something original...
your inexperienced leader is already in over his head. It's okay sweetie, you'll get used to hearing your leader bashed and getting no respect. We had to endure that for 8 years now you will for the next 4.
attack once again
I am not bitter, I am not hateful.  I know what is good for the country and it isnt what is in Washington, DC right now.  The proof is there by the way this country is going to hell in a handbasket.  I want this country to turn around and become the country I grew up with, the country I was once proud to be a part of.  Im fighting to turn the craziness around for future generations and the way to do it is to speak and debate and let the people know there is another way to run this country other than what we have right now.  You are the one who is getting so hot headed and attacking me and calling me vile, hateful, etc.  Im just debating and stating my political stance and putting the blame where it belongs..on this administration.  When something is wrong, I say so.  I do not give my respect blindly.  The administration, whether republican or democrat, earns my respect and this administration has not earned my trust, loyalty or respect.  The 1990s were a great time, we had a surplus, no major terrorist war going on, no terrorist breeding ground of our own making as we now have, Saddam was contained and his people at least had electricity, jobs, food, a stable life, we had low unemployment.  The 1980s were a great time too.  The reality now is we are in a terrible situation in this country and we are not respected around the world.  We really have no friends that will help us in Iraq, the ones that are there are pulling out..Italy in 09/2005 and now the talking heads are stating the British might just put pressure on Blair to start pulling out.  We are in a situation of this administrations doing and Im not willing to just sit quietly and let the powers that be continue to drive us deeper and deeper into world wide insanity.
why must you ALWAYS attack?
How does it feel, MT?  How does it feel to be painted in the same picture as terrorists?  Not too nice, hun?  Well, that is how I felt when you said I would chain myself to the gates at the WH and blow myself up (not exact words), when you grouped me in with terrorists.  You have a big habit of calling people insane, crazy, lunatic and this makes me wonder if your sanity is intact as when others post, they do not attack personally but you always do.  If the poster does not agree with you or posts something that you do not like, they are labeled insane or other not so nice words.  Cant you debate without attacking? 
You have done nothing but attack

every single poster on this board.  You are rude, crude, obnoxious, insulting and totally intolerant.  I realize these are considered compliments in your narrow-minded circles, but most reasonable Americans don't care for people who behave as you insist on behaving.


How's it feel to be treated the way you treat others?


Nuff said.


once again a mad dog attack by the right
You dont think rationally.  Where on this board did anyone state Bush caused the hurricane?  Just fling your hate towards the liberals and your baseless arguments.  First of all, Bush isnt doing anything to help the victims of the hurricane, the workers are, the police, fire fighters, government workers, etc.
Attack?
This is a bit of a quandry. Again, you feel the need to label me. What if I am none of those things? I have never attacked, used a harsh word, made an accusation, nor called a name on this board. I HAVE made observations based on what I see. I am not sure how you conduct discourse with people in your life outside of this board, but I would like to assume that others are allowed their own set of values and facts without being labeled and without specious statements being made against them.
to attack, I would have to

consider you a threat.  Unfortunately, I just find your repetitive posts mind-numbingly feeble.  You look up a word on Google like socialist, read the two-line definition and then post it over and over and over.  You have no depth of knowledge on any of the subjects discussed here and so your posts are absolutely worthless.  It is like having to tolerate a homely little first-grader at a book club discussing Shakesphere.  You think you are cute and smart, but the adults loathe you.


 


Only the ones who continually attack and lie.

You're disturbed because I proved (yet again) that she's a liar, but you're not disturbed that she maliciously attacks each and every single poster who dares to even THINK about disagreeing with her?


Tells me pretty much all I need to know about you. 


If you like liars and bullies, go back to the Conservative boad.


May God help us all if we get another terror attack.

This president has ignored every single thing ever suggested to him, even as it regards terrorism.  I wonder what the terrorists will be planning for us in the future and how much information and knowledge they've learned from this about our weak spots.  They must see American frustration with Bush's incompetence, and they must really be enjoying that.  This is AMERICA.  We're supposed to have our act together.


I don't see this as an attack and obviously neither did Lurker. sm
Please look to your own back yard. 
It was not meant as an attack, I
that it might not be the wisest idea to go to a *liberal* board and call yourself something that runs counter to their belief system, and then expect to be treated like a long-lost son.

Further, I said the Democrats frustrate me to no end, and it is precisely for the very reasons you stated. They were too afraid of being branded as **unpatriotic** and **unsupportive of the troops**, blah,blah,blah. In their defense, however, sometimes they simply have not had the votes to over ride the president's agenda. Thank goodness for people like Murtha.

I apologize if you felt I was attacking you, as I think we have found some common ground. I think the other thing that happens is that sometimes words, if not chosen extra carefully, can come off sounding what they are not.
see...that's the thing. It's your right to attack if you want....
and I defend that right. But your way of handling opposition is akin to jack-booted thugs and arm-twisting. If that is the way you choose to voice your opposition, more power to you. Don't understand it, but don't have to. It is certainly your right. Whatever floats your boat.
I don't care how much you attack me....
go ahead. Apparently that is what gets your ticker going. Knock yourself out.
attack the messenger

Here we go again - Rove's tactic of personal attacks on those who bring forth damaging information. Media matters states inaccuracies of the press on both sides.  They back their statements up with proof and facts.  You can argue they are "left" "right" "middle" or "ovoid" but they still present information and back it up with verifiable facts.


 


If you can't refute, attack.........nm
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If you can't refute, attack. lol. nm
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When you can't refute, you attack. lol. nm
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Again, you can't refute, so you attack....
which reflects more negatively on you than on me.

Your posts provide no useful information...you employ the Alinsky method, if you don't know anything about the subject you just attack. If you knew anything about socialism, about black liberation theology, had bothered to read Obama's agenda and still concluded he was not a socialist you are so far in denial a backhoe could not dig you out.

Actually, it is Shakespeare. Perhaps you would be better served to pay more attention to the homely first-grader...you adult, you. lol.
Sounded like an attack to me. And in the..
grand scheme of things, why is it important to you that I admit I am something I am not??
ACK! HEART ATTACK!
Did someone just apologize on this board?!?!??!


By golly I think we are gettin somewhere! Maybe we ain't all rurnt!

(South Georgia :-D )
You people who attack

Sarah Palin for her lack of experience just kill me here.  You discredit all the experience she has by saying that being governor means nothing when previous presidents were governors prior to their presidency.  She has run a state and has done a successful job at it and yet you Obama supports refuse to see that.  You feel more compelled to discuss her clothes or how she should stay home with the kids instead of running for office.  Which is a horribly sexist thing to say. 


You refuse to see anything positive she has done in her career and cry that she lacks experience and yet you are so blind to see that Barrack Obama has very little experience himself.  He has climbed the ladder through the help of various radicals and crooks.  Obama has all these associations with radicals and racists people and you see nothing wrong with that?  He has requested more spending for earmarks and pork in 4 years than John McCain has during his whole career.  Obama wants to spend more of OUR money. 


Government has really messed things up.  Why do we want bigger government when government has already failed us?  Yet here we are putting our trust in a man who has questionable associations just because he promises change.....change that he can't possibly deliver on and if he does......there goes the country.  He wants more government spending, higher taxes, and bigger government. 


I'm sorry but I want smaller government, less government spending, and don't raise taxes during a recession.


Or another terror attack. Or a

biological attack.  Or a flu pandemic.  Lots of scenarios available for his use. 


I share your fears 100%.


You must mean a terrorIST attack, because sm
We are attacked by people who call themselves terrorists. Unless of course, you have terror attacks like some people have panic attacks.
A financial attack?
Tell that to the thousands who lost their lives or their loved ones that day. Wow, how cold can you be?
Cyber attack has hit

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/11/20/pentagon-cyber-siege-unprecedented-attack/


The Pentagon has suffered from a cyber attack so alarming that it has taken the unprecedented step of banning the use of external hardware devices, such as flash drives and DVD's, FOX News has learned.


The attack came in the form of a global virus or worm that is spreading rapidly throughout a number of military networks.


"We have detected a global virus for which there has been alerts, and we have seen some of this on our networks," a Pentagon official told FOX News. "We are now taking steps to mitigate the virus."


The official could not reveal the source of the attack because that information remains classified.


"Daily there are millions of scans of the GIG, but for security reasons we don't discuss the number of actual intrusions or attempts, or discuss specific measures commanders in the field may be taking to protect and defend our networks," the department said in an official statement. 


Military computers are often referred to as part of the Global Information Grid, or GIG, a system composed of 17 million computers, many of which house classified or sensitive information.


FOX News obtained a copy of one memo sent out last week to an Army division within the Pentagon warning of the cyber attack.


"Due to the presence of commercial malware, CDR USSTRATCOM has banned the use of removable media (thumb drives, CDRs/DVDRs, floppy disks) on all DoD networks and computers effective immediately."