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Wrong. See post below. He tried to stop this...

Posted By: sam on 2008-09-23
In Reply to: yes he was principal - Shera

in 2005. Dems blocked it.


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wrong, full of wrong statements, see my upper post...nm
nm
Did I stop anyone from responding to your post?
you haven't answered mine.
You stop and re-read my post....sm
He has never been on a Presidential race ballot BEFORE. How much more clearer do I need to make that?

Sheesh....even when research is proven and from "credible sources" at that, the sheeple refuse to listen.
Last post to you. You can't even stop trolling on your own board. SM
F-O-L-L-O-W T-H-E T-H-R-E-A-D.  I know it is really hard, that concept, but just try.  Come on. You can do it. I know you can.
The moderator asked you to stop directly below this post.

You don't know the meaning of the word *respectful.*  You want to come here and censor this board and lay down the law about what is *newsworthy* and what isn't, the same way you people want to control every aspect of every American's life.  How ya makin' out in that regard?  Not too well, eh? 


You and your other sidekick(personality?) below don't come here to debate.


You come here to incite, and regardless of your promises, you'll never leave.  Nobody is bothering you on your board, and you have to release your evil vile hatred somewhere or else you will explode, so you come here.


If you want to see vicious, consult the nearest mirror.


Stop the juvenile name calling and refute what I post....
if you can.
took my post wrong way
I did not say Im in any jewish discussion groups.  I can get that at home with my family.  They are mostly all jewish, some stricter than others, most moderate or non practicing, as I am.  However, I was in a Kaballah discussion group for about two years a few years ago.  Very interesting.  All I said was, if you want to learn more how jews feel about Israel and leaving Gaza, etc., join a discussion group or go to your local synagogue, they always have classes to teach non jews about being jewish.  I meant no harm in my post, you have taken it wrongly.  I dont know how many exactly side with Sharon or the settlers, however, I know from my family and friends and what I have experienced in life that the Holy Land has to be shared with both jews and palestineans, gosh, when it comes down to it, they are brothers and sisters.  That is the only way for peace.  Many jews that advocate staying in Gaza are orthodox jews and from my experience, they are not the nicest people around.  That I know, I have met quite a few, growing up in NYC and Brooklyn, right down the block from the Jewish Defense League.  My cousin, who is a jew, married a catholic.  She became a jew yet the orthodox synagogue would not accept her and when they had children, they were not considered jewish, in the orthodox eyes.  Well, my cousin and his family joined a more moderate non orthodox synagogue who accepted his wife and family.  From what I see, for many years, gosh most of my life, being jewish was not too cool, unless you lived in a NY jewish area (which I did).  Even christians did not care one way or the other for jews.  However, nowadays, christians think these are the end times, so they are trying to band together with jews.  This has happened only recently and that is great, we should all band together, however, christians try to paint a pretty picture about how alike jews and christians are and they arent.  Im not trying to give a sermon here, Im just telling you..actually too much about my life, LOL..
Then you read my post wrong.
I don't know what conversations have occurred on either board.  I was mainly interested in why you and gt would made the assertion that somehow conservatives don't care about child molestation.  Frankly, I was rather taken aback.  I have never even seen the far left pin that one on conservatives.  My posts have been respectful totally.  I thought you wanted debate.  I made that mistake one other time on this board.  I won't make it again. 
You read my post wrong
It is strange that this particular vet has had reported so many incidents with anti-war folks.  The death threat was from a white supremist, by the way.
Sorry, replied to the wrong post.
I meant to reply to the conservative way post.
No, Bridger. There is nothing wrong with my post.

I made my comments before I posted a couple of excerpts (allowed to do), I posted the link not once but twice just to ensure if one did not work the other would (not specified in law but something I always do). 


Now, you might not like the article I posted, but I complied with copyright laws. 


Is it too difficult a thing for you to research copyright infringement laws? 


I will guarantee you that boards such as this have been brought down for such violations.  Do not be a part of the problem but a part of the solution.  Reign yourself in before smeone else does.


 


There are so many things wrong with your post
You remind me of Joe Biden - the gift to conservatives that just keeps on giving every time your brain tricks you into thinking you have something to say.

First, you don't know that "these people" did anything with respect to anyone's rights.

Second, if by "rights" you mean marriage, marriage isn't a right.

Third, just who is it that guarantees that if Christians (the word IS capitalized, incidentally) "get out of the business of government", the government will get out of the business of things like they're doing here?

I could go on...and on...but you get the drift, don't you? Learn how to think instead of pumping junk sociopolitical philosophy.


Yes, you are right. My post is in the wrong spot, I gueess. I do it sometimes. SM
But of course, I am probably lying.  I'll say it first so you don't have to.  Unless you just want to that is.
What is wrong with you people. Post, ignore,
nm
Wrong fact. From his own words, did you not read the post...
he was afraid that if it passed it might be used in some way to change Roe v Wade and was willing to sacrifice babies born alive on the altar of choice.

Not scare tactics. the truth.
I will not stop trying to stop the slaughter of the unborn in this country...
I never said you were a stupid wretch. What I said was, if you can watch that video below and not feel something, your heart must be seared over. If you can watch that video and advocate what you advocate, yes, I'm sorry, I find that cold. I am entitled to my opinion and all your ranting and name calling and belitting is not going to change that. Someone needs to speak for the child. You certainly aren't allowing it any rights, including the right to live. You are okay with that, I'm not.
Stop bringing up Bush - this post was not about Bush
I even said we have had some good presidents and some bad ones, but this post was not about Bush. It was about Obama. Yes Bush was one of the worst presidents I'm not arguing with you on that one, but everytime anyone brings up something about our current president they are shot back with Bush this or Bush that and on things that have nothing to do with what the current topic is about. Again, this was not about Bush. It was about Obama.
So when the terrorists come, you'll just say STOP or I'll say STOP again? nm

Wrong Woman - Wrong Message
http://www.truthout.org/article/palin-wrong-woman-wrong-message
Wrong, wrong, wrong, clueless Lu.
Horse hockey
Sorry about that...wrong board, wrong name
nm
Please stop it. I know what you are doing. sm
You really are pretty transparent.   gt said she did not know any socialist Jews.  Please just post my reply and not her post because that makes it look especially bad on me.  Very transparent.  I was pointing out that of course, there are socialist Jews.   The rest of your argument, if you have one, is moot, as you are making absolutely no sense whatsoever!  Unless baiting people is something you enjoy, which I can see is true.  
It won't stop.
He will continue to violate the Constitution because he is arrogant and has no respect for the law.  And I agree that what Clinton did pales a lot in comparison to the ongoing arrogant lies and legal violations of Bush.  I hope someday enough people wake up in this country and stop him before he can do any more damage to this country and to the world.  :-(
She will stop at nothing
What she is trying to do is "buy" the office. What I don't get is there are so many good women who should run. I can think of at least 20 of them I'd vote for if they were running for President, but Where are all of them? Why is that thing in there. I wish she would crawl back in the hole she crawled out of. She is nothing but a power hungry pathologic liar who is a socialist (that is a plain and simple fact, she's just good at covering it up). Everyone knows what she was like as first lady - why anyone would want that thing in there again is beyond me.

I'm all for a woman president - just not THAT woman.

If the dems have any chance of winning the white house back she is not it. I'm reading tons of posts on different sites saying that if she beats Obama, no matter how much they hate McCain they will vote for him just so she won't get in. I hope the dems wake up.
Stop. sm
First of all the c story that he called his wife is a made up lie.  It makes for a nice story though.  His daughters are crazy about him.  Why do you say such things? If you don't like him, fine, but let's stick to the facts. I don't like him either, but I have a lot of reasons that are real and not gossip. 
just stop it!
nm
WTH!!! Stop doing that!!!

Shelley this is not me doing this.  Someone is just being stupid.  I'm sick and tired of other people trying to post like it is me and it isn't. 


FYI.....Chele is just pronounced like shell.  No Shelly.


will it ever stop?
first the bailout, now Calfornia wants a personal bailout......how much more money will have to be dished out.  I truly wish that the culprits who pocketed money and ran wall street into the ground would be investigated and held accountable.  We all would still have to pay for their greed but it might make me feel a bit better if they actually had a consequence to all this instead of walking away with a buttload of money while we foot the bill. 
oh stop it - NM
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Let's Stop.
The election is over. The results are in. Whether you are pleased or displeased with the results, it is time to show some class. Gloating is not attractive or very mature either nor is continuing to bemoan all of the dire predictions. I Both Senators Obama and McCain have said it is time for Americans to come together, to work together. How about starting here and now. McCain offered a very gracious speech. Can't we follow that fine example no matter what our personal feelings might be? Let us all behave with some class. We need to deal with the government we have and put our efforts into making it work as best possible instead of childish gloating or incessant complaining. Let's put our considerable energy and knowledge to a constructive purpose and just stop behaving so badly!
Where does it stop?....sm
I've refrained from posting about any of these so called bailouts, ever since they passed the 700 billion one, that all of a sudden, is not wrong and not going to be used for what they were going to use it for.

In the beginning, I was one of those who thought the sky would fall, if they didn't do the bailout on the financial institutions. But then they took the three page bill, and turned it into a bad dream, which got squelched...then it became a nightmare, and became larger...and was passed....and now...now.....

In between some of the auto companies got a bailout....now they want more.....now cities/states, and everyone wants a piece of this action...


arrrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....



Let the gosh durn big three fold....let em go under and file for bankruptcy. This isn't about the three auto companies and a bailout for them.

It's a bailout for the union. And along the way, they will make all the other auto makers turn union....

And what scares me the most? The government now owns our financial institutes. If they do the auto bailout, they will own the auto industry.


Where will it end.................



Big and bigger government seems here to stay.............
You really need to think for yourself and stop
getting your words from your TV. Now, Scooter Libby, I really don't care for the man but our troubles with the middle east and everything else that we find ourselves in came about long before Bush. You need to go back several decades, while we constantly implant ourselves in middle eastern affairs and provide them with weapons to fight one against another, just to have them turned around and use those very weapons on us.

If you feel Bush is the reason for all our woes, then when we are attacked again, then we should blame Obama for that, right? After all, he's about the biggest Muslim butt kisser I've seen in a loooong time!
Just Stop!
Do you guys just run around the internet looking for stuff to copy/paste on here?  What is your point?  We all read articles and watch the news and have our sides.  Do you guys think you are going to change the world by pasting stuff on MTStars?  Total losers!   Go out and do something real if you want to change the world.  This isn't helping anyone.    
Just Stop!
DITTO!!!  It's not bad enough it is all over the TV, we have to see it here too.  Plus, shouldn't that be on the political board?
Did you ever stop to consider

the many lives that were saved by taking out these people?  Or would you rather many more Americans be subjected to events like 9/11?  How many people did we lose in one day on 9/11?  Yet so many people want to cry and whine over how we should be nice to terrorists and treat them fairly.  They would sooner cut our heads off than be civil but OMG...don't torture them to get information that might save American's lives.  How horrible would that be?  I have no problem with covert operations taking out dangerous people.  In fact, it makes me feel safer knowing that these terrorists aren't going to hurt anyone anymore.


Our government under Obama is getting bigger and bigger and government is controlling more and more things and you are worried about Cheney giving orders to take out terrorists?  I tell ya what....I felt a heck of a lot safer back then than I do now.  The idea of government controlling what I do....is scary as heck and yet all you guys can focus on is how Bush and Cheney kept us safe after 9/11 but you turn it around to be a bad thing.  You people are friggin amazing, you know that?  What a load of crap.


Please stop...
with the "two people who love each other" baloney already. We're talking about 2 men who sodomize each other and 2 women who commit abnormal sexual acts together because they can't stand men. You don't have children or you wouldn't feel that way.
Will you PLEASE stop
Get a hobby - preferably one that gets you out of the house.
Did you ever stop to think...(sm)
that maybe the neighbors got tired of dodging the cars that were reportedly spilling out into the cul-de-sac where they lived?  I think the inconvenience this places on the neighbors should be viewed no differently than the inconvenience of having a teenage party next door EVERY week.
Why should the law stop

recognizing "marriages" just because gay people declare this to be fair to them?  I just think it is sad that something that has always been recognized legally should be undone just for a small group of people. If you want civil unions with benefits...fine.  More power to you, but why can't you just leave us alone and let our marriages be like they have been for years?  Why must we change to accomodate few people?  Why must we always compromise and bend things to accomodate this increasingly secular world? 


You can have abortions but you can't refuse to perform them.  You can't pray in school or say anything about God in school so we don't offend the non-believers but by all means allow homosexuality be taught to young children as an acceptable thing even though not everyone feels that way......and as evident by the vote in CA...the majority doesn't agree with it!!!  Now you want marriages to not be recognized legally because that isn't fair to gay people and for us to have marriages, we must first have a civil union and then get married by our pastor because it would make the gay community feel better.  Do you not see a pattern here?


If you would stop your blathering for one second SM
you might actually see what someone is trying to say.  Which they did say up above and now you look like a fool. 
stop with the bigotry
I never hate or love because of a persons income..It is what they give back to society and the earth that matters..Frankly, I have heard the republicans hate and fear the poor and lock themselves away in gated communities so they dont have to deal with reality..So which bigoted opinion is true..NEITHER..OMG..Stop with the generalizations, the hate filled bigoted attacks..We democrats/liberals do not hate any one type of person..frankly, from what I have seen, experienced and learned over my 30+ years of democratic activisim, we dont hate anyone..we just want peace and prosperity for America and a fair chance for all, whether you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth or not..
Will you please stop posting this over and over again?
Can you not think of anything ORIGINAL to say (something meaningful obviously a bit too much to ask). This is a discussion board after all - what's the problem with replying to the CONTENT of a post once in a while instead of simply attacking those who dare to express a thought?

And before you get your hackles up over what a hypocrite *I* am (usually #2 on the Hannity rules for lackeys wishing to defuse meaningful discussion in favor of creating irresponsible chaos - are you there yet?) let me remind you, there wasn't any content IN your post to reply TO. So would you please cut that out?
then stop replying
I won't agree with you, so I guess that is why this conversation is going nowhere. Yes, these rabbis (and good old Ben Stein) can chose to be anti-abortion (easy for them, they will never be pregnant), but I certainly believe there are MANY MORE rabbis and Jews that will maintain their pro-choice stance regardless of this little meeting (which we did not even here about in our 5000 member congregation).

The protesting will not stop...so yes...sm
If the war is something they believe strongly in then they will have to serve and ignore the protestors. If they are stuck on contract, they will have to serve and pray that the protesting works in their favor.

There is a divide in this country and both sides deserve to be heard.
Can you stop with the name calling please?
The moderator asked that we be respectful, and "ignorant conservatives" is far from that. Branding a whole group of people based on the way one person posts shows very little tolerance on your part. I thought liberals were supposed to be tolerant and believe in the rights of EVERYONE...EVEN...GASP...OH NO...conservatives!!! You do not sound very tolerant and you walked ALL OVER this poster's rights. I guess it is a case of Do as I say...not as I do? It kinda makes any statement or point you wished to make here ring very hollow...at least in this ignorant conservative's view.
Can we stop with the name calling?
Just because you do not agree does not make the poster ignorant. Condescending, to say the least.

Obama's message of empathy is redistribution of wealth. Socialism 101. Why do you think because someone has been successful that obligates them to pay more than anyone else? If you check on a lot of those so-called rich, they give more heavily to charitable organizations, establish foundations, etc. They don't horde it all and count it daily and laugh maniacally because they have it and you don't. Class envy is a nasty, nasty thing.
Why not a flat tax? Ten percent across the board, we ALL pay it. THAT is fair. The rich already pay over 90% of ALL taxes in the coffers. Even THAT is not enough for you.

Perhaps Obama could keep his girls out of camp one year and put that 10 grand toward helping some of the less fortunate. Let him lead by example. Ah...but don't hold your breath. And it is not just Obama...any Dem. Lead by example...cut them a check every month, right of the top of your wages.

It is very naive to suggest that corruption resides only on the republican side. The Clintons have run corrupt administrations from Arkansas right on up. I refer you to the hail mary pardons, travelgate, whitewater, and on and on and on and on. If you are going to accuse, you should accuse across the board.

Another very naive point..stopping nuclear proliferation. It is NOT going to happen. It cannot happen. For it to happen, all parties have to be on board. Russia will never surrender its nukes. Iran will never surrender its nukes. If Israel ever surrenders it's nukes, they have signed their death warrant. Can we not be realistic about this??
Why not? He can't stop the storm.
The individual people did not prepare. They are the only ones accountable. The national guard and disaster medical assistant teams are always staged close by. It was so weird after Katrina listening to the politicans and leaders criticize FEMA because FEMA already does so much. FL has had soo many storms and FEMA was never criticized like it was with Katrina! It's just the opposite they are happy when they hear it was made a federal disaster becuase they know FEMA will help.

The government can't make people use their brains and store water, grandola bars and life jackets.
If people ignore warnings they are to blame. What is very sad is for the elderly and disabled. If healthy able bodied people don't take care of themself they obviously are not checking on their elderly family and friends who are the most vulnerable.

The government has things set up like the NHC and the AF hunters to provide us warnings.

Katrina was hurricane during hurricane season in a city by the Gulf. They acted like the people in a hostage situation with no warning.

I think the RNC should go on with occasional references to prayers and good wishes to those in the storms path. LOL it will give us something to listen to on the radio. :) There is so much waiting waiting waiting it would be nice to listen to.

There isn't anything anyone can do anyone, once the storm starts. When it's over unless Bush is going to drive a clean up truck to help clear the roads so the utility crews can start working there is no reason for him no be here immediately. I am sure he is not experienced with that and would injure himself. The best thing anyone can do is stay home immediately after the storm and let the roads clear. Then Home Depot can open and the National Guard will set up water and MRE stops. If Bush showed up four or five days later that would be nice for moral. He should address the people listening on the radio during and after the storms just to give encouragement.

Really, sam. Just stop. Even to people that
it's starting to wear thin. I hope this isn't all you think about or have to do because this will all be over in two months and then what?
Then stop stalking me. Not about you, either.
nm
Then STOP going back and forth!
No one is asking you to or even cares!
still stalking....stop please. nm
nm