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Wrong fact. From his own words, did you not read the post...

Posted By: sam on 2008-10-31
In Reply to: Fact - meme

he was afraid that if it passed it might be used in some way to change Roe v Wade and was willing to sacrifice babies born alive on the altar of choice.

Not scare tactics. the truth.


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Read PK's post below that begins with "The key words are"

Then you read my post wrong.
I don't know what conversations have occurred on either board.  I was mainly interested in why you and gt would made the assertion that somehow conservatives don't care about child molestation.  Frankly, I was rather taken aback.  I have never even seen the far left pin that one on conservatives.  My posts have been respectful totally.  I thought you wanted debate.  I made that mistake one other time on this board.  I won't make it again. 
You read my post wrong
It is strange that this particular vet has had reported so many incidents with anti-war folks.  The death threat was from a white supremist, by the way.
Wrong! In the words of Patty

who actually did play the race card first: 


' I could be discriminated against too.....if I chose to be homo but I don't. Our sexual partner is a choice. Rosa Parks couldn't change her color and women can't cut off their vaginas. You CAN choose who you have sexual relations with. Now stop blubbering. You're making puddles.'


As Rosa Parks was a black woman who defied the law to sit in the whites-only part of the bus, I believe Patty brought up the race subject to which I was merely responding. 


wrong, full of wrong statements, see my upper post...nm
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Umm, read links. SP's words are in there.
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Really? just stated a fact. I, for one, don't read
any bashing or gloating into the OP's message.  Just a fact.  They seemed like they knew what they were doing, getting married, going to have a baby, and in a few short months, kaput!  The love vanishes.  Seems to me, you have more vitriole about this subject than does the OP.  And, I guess your name is IMHO.  Geesh.
Read Obama's two books, his own words...
and then come and tell us he is not a socialist leaning heavily toward Marxism...with a straight face. Just admit it, you know he is a socalist, leaning Marxist, and you don't care. Be honest with us and yourself.

The first time either Obama or Biden have to face other than softball questions and they run under the porch whining.

Whether or not someone leans Marxist is a valid question. That neither one of them has answered. Obama KNOWS what he is. He just doesn't want YOU to know what he is.
As a matter of fact, I read it against last night.
fu
It's a fact of history. Read up on it. You might learn something.

If he read those words, he apparently doesn't take them to heart.
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Obviously u didnt read, I said NONE of them are moral. Read the post before spouting off.

words from your post
"fear.... apprehension ..... doom ..... I don't know."  I'd say you were someone who would/should vote McCain.  Just using your words, . . no flames.
I just wanted to post the same. The fact that they
were released is proof that they are innocent.

How would you react if somebody imprisoned you, tortured you, waterboards you, keeps you in a box with caterpillars, kicks you, beats you, puts you into stress positions until your 'eyes fall out,' affixed to electrical current and God knows what else about we are kept uninformed, and this for years and years? And this only on grounds of 'suspicion?'

Finally your innocence is proven and you are released.

Wouldn't you thank your rescuer on your knees and thank God?

What feelings would you have toward your torturers?

I know, it is a waste of my breath and my energy, because now the whole vicious cycle with bashing, insutls, tit-and-tat and playing grammar- and spelling-police starts all over again.

It is sooooooo frustrating.

It is all about justice, torturing innocent people and taking away from their innocent life 7 (seven) years.

Don't tell me again that

'terrorists are not covered by the Geneva conventions.'

because 90% of the prisoners in Abu Ghraib and Gitm were innocent!

Why are you still loyal to your leaders who authorized the torture in Abu Ghraib and Gitmo? Those detainees are innocent, now they are released and now SOME are after YOU. You, we, the American citizens are the victims of these wrong decisions taken by the former administration.

My post contain no bashing and no insults, jsut disagreements with other posters.
Disagreement is not bashing or insulting, as long as it does not ontain foul language and slander!

Let's see who throws the first stone, this will be the guilty one.
I am not attacking you, therefore I can post here. In other words, make me. :) nm

You're putting words in her post.sm
Take it at face value.
your choice of words in this post is offensive
What's next using the "f" word, and do you call African American's the "N" word.

We all don't "have" a choice in whom we choose to love. You evidently do not understand what it is to be gay, and without any knowledge it would be better for you to not post at all because you are offensive in more than just this post. The others were bad enough but calling us homo is like calling a black person a "n_____".

Rosa Parks could not change her color and gay people cannot change how they feel towards another human being. We don't have a "gay" button we can turn on and off.

Enough with your disrespectful comments towards other people who don't agree with you and calling us slanderous names. If you can't control the words you choose maybe the moderator can.
The post was slurful and void of fact.
the blazing bigotry in that post, you have been hanging around the Palin rallies too long.
Can't believe you used the words loving and caring in the middle of that post.
What, pray tell, is spewl?  Making up words? 
Mere words cannot describe my feelings to your post....so I won't even try....


I think you read my message wrong.
Your saying what I said. Maybe I didn't say it correctly. I don't trust Obama because for that fact. Lined his pockets and now the tax payers are having to pay it back while they get to keep all the money they received and not paying any of it back. Dodd & Hillary are right on top with Obama too. This is why I don't trust the dems. McCain was saying a couple years ago not to do it but the dems didn't listen and passed whatever they passed and lined their pockets.

Dems are at top of the guilty line. I don't trust them and would never ever vote for Obama.
No, no, no. I think you read my message wrong
It was more of a statement (don't know the correct word to use - faceeshish? gosh, can't even spell it), I was making a joke of something we already knew about her. I've never trusted Condi or any of the Bush administration. I think they've been lying to everyone about everything all along and I don't think this is any different. That's why I said "and this is news how???. Without the right words to say I can't explain exactly what I was trying to say except that she is just a liar period and this is no different than any of the other lies they've told.
Your 'side' of research is the wrong one....Read this..
The "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" blog reports

'that Obama's Indonesian schooling began when he was entered into the Roman Catholic, Franciscus Assisi Primary School, in Jakarta, Indonesia, on January 1, 1968 and sat in class 1B.'

After that Barack came back to Honolulu and had from that point on only American Education in the US.



I re-read your post, and I stand by my post.
You are twisting his words by saying that he wants to make friends with terrorists. That is not what he said.
took my post wrong way
I did not say Im in any jewish discussion groups.  I can get that at home with my family.  They are mostly all jewish, some stricter than others, most moderate or non practicing, as I am.  However, I was in a Kaballah discussion group for about two years a few years ago.  Very interesting.  All I said was, if you want to learn more how jews feel about Israel and leaving Gaza, etc., join a discussion group or go to your local synagogue, they always have classes to teach non jews about being jewish.  I meant no harm in my post, you have taken it wrongly.  I dont know how many exactly side with Sharon or the settlers, however, I know from my family and friends and what I have experienced in life that the Holy Land has to be shared with both jews and palestineans, gosh, when it comes down to it, they are brothers and sisters.  That is the only way for peace.  Many jews that advocate staying in Gaza are orthodox jews and from my experience, they are not the nicest people around.  That I know, I have met quite a few, growing up in NYC and Brooklyn, right down the block from the Jewish Defense League.  My cousin, who is a jew, married a catholic.  She became a jew yet the orthodox synagogue would not accept her and when they had children, they were not considered jewish, in the orthodox eyes.  Well, my cousin and his family joined a more moderate non orthodox synagogue who accepted his wife and family.  From what I see, for many years, gosh most of my life, being jewish was not too cool, unless you lived in a NY jewish area (which I did).  Even christians did not care one way or the other for jews.  However, nowadays, christians think these are the end times, so they are trying to band together with jews.  This has happened only recently and that is great, we should all band together, however, christians try to paint a pretty picture about how alike jews and christians are and they arent.  Im not trying to give a sermon here, Im just telling you..actually too much about my life, LOL..
Wrong. See post below. He tried to stop this...
in 2005. Dems blocked it.
Sorry, replied to the wrong post.
I meant to reply to the conservative way post.
No, Bridger. There is nothing wrong with my post.

I made my comments before I posted a couple of excerpts (allowed to do), I posted the link not once but twice just to ensure if one did not work the other would (not specified in law but something I always do). 


Now, you might not like the article I posted, but I complied with copyright laws. 


Is it too difficult a thing for you to research copyright infringement laws? 


I will guarantee you that boards such as this have been brought down for such violations.  Do not be a part of the problem but a part of the solution.  Reign yourself in before smeone else does.


 


There are so many things wrong with your post
You remind me of Joe Biden - the gift to conservatives that just keeps on giving every time your brain tricks you into thinking you have something to say.

First, you don't know that "these people" did anything with respect to anyone's rights.

Second, if by "rights" you mean marriage, marriage isn't a right.

Third, just who is it that guarantees that if Christians (the word IS capitalized, incidentally) "get out of the business of government", the government will get out of the business of things like they're doing here?

I could go on...and on...but you get the drift, don't you? Learn how to think instead of pumping junk sociopolitical philosophy.


Yes, you are right. My post is in the wrong spot, I gueess. I do it sometimes. SM
But of course, I am probably lying.  I'll say it first so you don't have to.  Unless you just want to that is.
What is wrong with you people. Post, ignore,
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sorry, should read I did not read post that way.
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I did read the post that way.
One poster asked who would join in rebuilding Iraq and this poster answered she would join.  I am not quite sure why the quibbling of semantics.  Do you do that to all posters who post here?  If so, it's disturbing.
I don't think your read my post
I said the main reason for newspapers' decline was the internet, but your insinuation that people don't read the newspaper simply because they can't read well really doesn't make any sense and is frankly, condescending.
Read the post Ex....
you can disagree without mocking and ridiculing...and yes, sometimes, you CAN take the high road and just ignore a post by someone who posted emotionally and took personally a post because her son is serving in Iraq and tells a different story. What could that possibly have hurt, just to let that one slide? Or respond to it in a less personal or ridiculing way?

And then "think Liberal" asserting to me that she had the right to disagree and criticize something she did not believe it...but berating "sick and fed up" in a rather personal manner for doing the same thing. THAT sounds pretty one-sided to me. And not necessary.

Thanks for your post.
Did you even read the post???
we are talking about a program that is already in place, the money already there...lots of red cents as a matter of fact. We have more social programs than any country in the WORLD = millions of red cents. What pray tell are you talking about? Billions for killing Iraqis? Are you prez of Michael Moore's fan club? Sigh.
You obviously did not read my post...
Air America failed because not enough people listened to it. Simple as that. I thought your original post said something about Republicans in the minority...not all Republicans are conservative and not all Republicans are Christians. And, there are a bunch of Democrats who are Christians. So what are you talking about? Christians or Republicans?

LOL ... if you read my whole post ...
I have said I have not made up my mind about who I am voting for.

I SAID I have not formed an total opinion on Palin.

I have watched many of O'Bama's interviews ... ... I read his book ... I'm evaluating his "judgment" ...

And to me, he comes across as arrogant. AND, THIS IS JUST WHAT IT IS -- MY OPINION. And I am entitled to it, just like you are entitled to yours!!!

That does not make me stupid. But if it makes YOU feel better to call anyone who doesn't agree with you and your opinions stupid, go ahead -- go for it! I can take it.

Also, glad to see now I'm a mina bird .. Love It!

no, make that a "stupid mina bird" ...

.... too bad I have to go to work now .. who names what other names I could be called ... just because I have my own opiniosn and they are different from yours!

good day!

ROTFL .... outta here



At last. Some who actually read the post.
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Read the other post again.
If you were not in a chat room, but rather were in an office setting with co-workers, you would not be in a situation where you could openly discuss religion or politics. It is a work setting. Noone said anything about religion not be the "fabric of your life." Good for you. Go for it. Whenever you decide to impose your religious or political beliefs on somebody else, you are going to hit a snag. Point it, the founding fathers explicitly expressed "congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of reigion." This is the FIRST directive in the FIRST amendment. They then proceeded to establish a secular federalist system, not a theocracy. Congress, though the may have agreed among them to say a prayer before their session, are to check their religion the moment they start to make law...which is, after all, their jobs.
read 2nd post from top
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Read my post below........
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Please read my post above and ....
read the snopes link info. The meaning is very different when looking at the entire context. And I am not an O fan but posting information taken out of context is just wrong no matter what side one is on. If the first post was an honest mistake/
misunderstanding, hey, that happens, but the snopes link demonstrates the truth of the quote so don't compound the mistake by continuing it.
I did read you whole post and all I can say....sm
is what is wrong with you? Get a grip! Why so much negativity? Give the guy a chance. Are you hoping and praying he will fail so you can be right? We all have questions and no one knows how all this will pan out. The country is in a crisis and he is going to be the POTUS. Not having to join a bread line will be a plus for me. That being said, yes, I do have hope he is the right person at the right time for our country, and I pray for his to have the strength, intelligence and compassion to see us over this rough road.
Did you even read the post
Doesn't sound like things are going to be much better from what I read.
Should have read the WHOLE post
and then you would know why I  said what I said.
Should have read the WHOLE post
and then you would know why I  said what I said.
Again--read the whole post...
"I should have written that I am more concerned with lying, if it turns out that he is lying"
I believe you need to actually READ the post!
VV
Perhaps you need to re-read my post
Nowhere did I say I had the right to smoke anywhere I chose. I didn't even try to insinuate it. So before you get all righteously indignant on me, perhaps you'd better clarify whether I even made the claim you seem to want to argue.
The fact that an article was written does not make it fact. I hope you know that. nm
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