I thought they changed it to anyone

• VAT Tax - anyone for it? - Backwards typist
  • And....Here we go! - TechSupport
    • It will be just like the income tax - SM
      • Yeah, man, but it's so European!! - A.Nonymous
        • I thought they changed it to anyone - Trigger Happy
    • Everything will go up anyway - Trigger Happy
      • Gotta wonder.... - Points to ponder
        • Not enough people in this country have the guts for a tax revolt. - A ballot revolt would be better.
          • This last election has proven - Points to ponder
  • Well, let's see now.............sm - m
    • But he has so much ''wiggle room'' - A.Nonymous
    • They are now talking about - Trigger Happy
      • Employer provided medical insurance - A.Nonymous
      • Oh lucky us! sm - m
        • In my county, we have been paying - Backwards typist
          • Just curious........... sm - m
            • I'm sorry. i made a mistake - Backwards typist
              • We pay an EMS tax as well.......... sm - m
                • Dejavu(sp). I thought the same thing! (nm) - Backwards typist
            • If all these taxes keep building up - Trigger Happy
        • They also are talking about - Trigger Happy
          • I'm just laughing - A.Nonymous
          • Now he's meddlin'!!! sm - m
            • If you missed Craig T Nelson (Coach) - Beck Fan
            • Never thought I'd hear myself saying it - but it's time for a tax revolt.
            • Obesity causing global warning. - Trigger Happy
  • So much for no higher taxes of - Trigger Happy
    • Exactly what DH said last night. - Backwards typist

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"just a bit" to better prove his point that she was a reformer.  Like his cross in the dirt story as a POW.  When he first told it, it happened to someone else.  It went over better when he changed it to first person. That is dangerous behavior.  We have been through 8 years of information manipulation.  Please no more.

posted inside my messages so my thoughts would not get lost. I take full credit for what I post and usually try to post anything of interest to others, so I don't care who knows my moniker. They can read or discard, but I will get my reasoning and/or thoughs/suggestions out there.

I've been bashed plenty of times prior to the election but I don't care. I still don't care who likes me or not. I get my thoughts out there and that's all that matters. I don't hide like some people on this board do, or change names. Running a post through the name part does no one any good except to tell everyone they don't want to use the comment part of the board. I usually bypass those.

I also suggest if anyone posts that they use (nm) or NM in their subject if they have nothing else to say. I spend a lot of time opening a message to find nothing underneath that post. To me that is waste of time.

What war is worth fighting for?  Explain that to me.  During World War II, ten times the men that have died in Iraq in two years died in one day.  How many is too many?  What is worth fighting for?

In October 2007 McCain had the following to say, referring to Romney and Giuliani I believe, when they were all starting out in the Rep. nomination process.  I bolded the part he seemed to have changed his mind on.  I am sure if SP wasn't his running mate now he might feel the same way he did back them.

"I have had a strong and a long relationship on national security, I've been involved in every national crisis that this nation has faced since Beirut, I understand the issues, I understand and appreciate the enormity of the challenge we face from radical Islamic extremism.  I am prepared. I am prepared. I need no on-the-job training. I wasn't a mayor for a short period of time. I wasn't a governor for a short period of time."

I will be voting AGAINST McCain or for Obama whichever way you want to look at it.  As I have listened carefully to Obama, particularly on his infomercial, I find that I like him more and believe in him more.  I still have a problem with  his church but then I guess there is still Congress and there is STILL the people who can put pressure on Congress if need be.

What I said was that I COULD change my mind, let's say if Obama pulled a really big boner (doubtful)  between now or Tuesday or McCain said something that convinced me he was the better of the candidates.  I don't expect either to happen.  I don't know if the people voting for McCain have heard different speaches by him and Palin and I've been out in lala land or what but all I have heard them do is talk about what Obama is going to do and not do, scare tactics,  nothing about their plans. In other words the whole McCain campaign has been about trashing Obama.  I think that Obama has handled all the trashing very professionally and has looked quite presidential.

First, husband went to bed.  I'm watching SNL and dying  laughing but can't stand commercials.  Now that that is out of the way.

With that out of the way.........as for the face scratching...I dunno.  Once I was addressing a rather respected, dignified person and being a person who can't talk without my hands, I realized instead of using my index finger for my emphasis, I was using my middle finger.  I wasn't flipping him off but I'm surprised he didn't write me off.  One of my most embarrassing moments.

Back to SNL at least until the next commercial

and I tend to believe the word require was actually there. 

UPDATE II: Oopsie. Change-O, Government-O drops the word "require" from their vocabulary in Obama's Change.gov website on "voluntary service" for Obama's new "Youth Corps" program.

Right.

UPDATE III: Obama forgot to remove "require" in one of his Change.gov website on service requirement,

Down the drain?  Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'

By Betsy Newmark
High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger

If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.

“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”

“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?

He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?

Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:

GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.

But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.

OBAMA: Right.

GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.

OBAMA: Right.

GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.

So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?

OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.

Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”

That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.

But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.

So refreshing to have someone on this board that can actually think for themselves.  I have such vivid memories of my dad dressing up in his class A's to go to war, and coming into my room crying at 4:00 a.m. in the morning to say goodbye, not knowing if we would ever see one another again.  Thankfully, he did 1 tour in Korea before I was born, two tours in VN, and we lived on an Army base 25 miles from the Berlin wall when I was 6 years old.  If there was ever an american girl, it is me and my brother.  That "american girl" posting on here all the time, if she had to earn her FFFF freedom she would learn to keep her mouth shut.

It seems like one of first major priorities would be to ensure fair voting practices.  I'm very worried about the accuracy of computerized voting and possible tampering. 

If Sara Palin came on the scene as an Independent and ran against McCain & Obama, think how that could've changed things! 

As a conservative, I'm thrilled to see someone who knows how to play ball with the big boys.  Funny how the feminists want all this equal rights stuff, then shoot this lady down before they really know anything about her.

I wonder how upset Hillary's supporters are over this.  Time will tell, not just polls.

It should be interesting what history reveals in the end.  Either way, this race will go down in the books as a first.  That in itself is interesting.

Two late nights in a row for me...thank GOD it's Friday! :)

Since I only heard a snippet of this so far, the governor was trying to have others pay him to appoint them to take the O's senate seat?

If so (and don't bash, I'm asking a very serious question here), could this be how the O came up so quick? He paid for his senate seat?

The gov doesn't look like he thinks he did anything wrong. He's kinda young looking too. Could it be because Illinois has always had corruption like this? Gee, I think I'll go to Illinois and run for senator. LOL