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Yes, key word is FIGHT, you don't debate. You name call and badger, and when that fails

Posted By: you try to run people off the board. nm on 2005-09-29
In Reply to: Dont let the door hit ya on the way out! - gt

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I remember the debate. And of course this is not word for word, I NEVER said...sm
*because I'm not.* This is a LIE that I got tired of arguing with them about then. Unless you are confusing me with an old poster that went under the moniker Demo.
you call this debate?
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You call Keating, Ayers, ACORN et all serious debate?
I don't.  How about the economy, the wars, the exploding national debt, unemployment, homelessness.  That's the issues I'd like to see discussed and your proposed solutions, not who can sling the most mud.  Get it?
Actually he did call her the 'c' word
I will be voting for him. I think he's okay, better than the other choice at least. However, as unfortunate as it is he actually did call his wife the "c" word.

Nobody is perfect. We all say things we don't mean to say, but when the facts are there and it's on tape/video there no denying it.

As for his kids - I have no idea. I highly doubt he calls his daughter a bad word and I'm sure they (or she - I don't even know how many kids he has), but I'm sure they adore him. All girls love their daddies, and no father I know of says awful things or calls their daughters names.

Once again I see each side that hates the other candidate does make up stuff (both sides are guilty).
If he fails
We will succeed. We as a country together will succeed. It means we will not be thrown into socialism. Even Vladimir Putin has been telling the leaders of our country that they know first hand about socialism and it is not a path we want to take. So if he fails it means the country will succeed. Who wouldn't want that. It's not a person thing, if there was anyone else in the country trying to drag our country down the same hole I would be against it. I was born and raised in a free America. I grew up with the beliefs instilled in me that I can do anything I set my mind on doing and the harder I work the more I will benefit. But those ideas are now eroding away and the people who are trying to be successful and get ahead are being punished. I love the country the way it was (before Bush and Clinton that is). I love our founding fathers for risking their lives to create two of the most important documents of our history - The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. I don't want to see it re-written and our laws changed. It is perfect the way it is and nobody should be trying to re-write or do away with it (or just ignore it altogether). So if failure is the option so the country will succeed then by all means. This has nothing to do with past presidents and what they did or didn't do. This has to do with everything that is going on now (present day) and what is being planned for in the future.

I want the country and all Americans to succeed, and I want a leader who will back that and not punish us by taxing us more and spending all our money (and the money of our kids and grandkids) while lining the pockets of the rich (themselves and their buddies). I have lived a life of hard work and honesty and why I'm being punished to pay for the people who have not been honest, who went out and bought a house they could not afford and knew they couldn't afford but bought it anyway. The ones who racked up their credit cards, not with necessities but with all the latest and greatest gadgets and entertainment type things, vacations they couldn't afford and shouldn't have, and now I'm going to be taxed to help bail them out when I have done without (last vacation I took was 4 years ago and that was to go back for my moms funeral - oh yeah, what a great vacation that was), I'm sorry, but too many people are being bailed out of things they should be responsible for. Too many companies are getting bailed out and not using the money for what it is. Too many projects are now added to that atrocity of a spending bill that in no way will benefit the country and people, and only ensure a re-election for the politician and where is it coming from???? My hard working tax dollars. Anytime anyone tries to get ahead they are being punished. I'm sorry but I don't want to see that succeed.

Too much is wrong in Washington and as much as he is an great and eloquent speaker his actions are louder.
When all else fails.....(sm)

I have no idea why I can't get the link to hold. So....


Google:  The Rachel Maddow Show


It will be the video entitled "The torture documents are in the mail."


Unless you see a link down here....trying again.


what it fails to take into account...
you will find this many times on this board.... that calculator does not allow for the fact the President-elect is going to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire and we will all be paying more. if you search archives you will find the link to the calculator that shows you how much more you will be paying.
Why? Because she fails to see your brilliance?
You don't need adoration from others...

Truthseeker has been around a long time on this board. We do not need your synposis of her.

Personally, I think you are full of yourself...
Fails to explain the support he is getting from
all over the Arab world...predominantly Sunni Moslems, BTW. You forgot the part about burning Bush in effigy.
I guess Harvard fails to provide that course, eh?
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When all else fails, play the race card, right?
"You have a problem with someone speaking against THIS president, cause he is black and you can't stand it!"

This is what happens when you let Janine Garafalo tell you what to think.

Puh-THETIC.
SP wardrobe fails to make silk purse from sow's ear.
How many hockey/soccer moms do you know that shop at Sak's and Neiman's?  Sour the net on Michell's makeover last summer and you will come up with some radically different rhetoric.  That $150,000 might be better sent down ticket to rescue GOP's one-woman disaster area Michelle Bachmann's tanked MN 6th district campaign against Elwyn Tinklenbeg after he raked in a cool million following her HUAC comments last Friday night.   
When racism fails to gain political traction, switch to
We can see just how well that's working for the camp.
You cannot type it word for word, just provide a link.
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Debate, lets debate
Honey, I dont know if your problem is Alzheimer's or Parkinson's but I have debated all over this board..I have tried and tried again and again to debate with your cohorts..It starts out okay and then your conservative friends start attacking and it continues through the debate to where then there is no longer a debate.  I ask for you to check the archives and you will see this..nothing but personal attacks against me, which then I attacked back..Debate..lets debate..I WOULD LOVE TO DEBATE WITHOUT ATTACKS..Place an issue and lets debate..Who knows..my consciousness might be raised or yours might be..Lets do it,,
Sambo thinks last word=best word...
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Call me what you want, just don't call me late for dinner. LOL....
GP, I like your sense of humor.
You call it hysteria, some call it concern for the
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Then they should be willing to fight...sm
if it is democracy they want. After all, that's their fight not ours.
ooh cat fight
compassionate hippie cat fight!!!  I've got so much patchouli on that you couldn't stand to get near me anyway.
See? there you go again, trying to fight
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Your guy is still going to fight the war...
in Afghanistan and is backing off a bit on his timetable for Iraq...but as long as it his HIS idea to fight, its okay?

Why don't you do a little bit of research on Obama, and not close your eyes to the numerous skeletons in HIS closet? Only one guy talking about cleaning up washington, both parties. Only one guy talking about cutting spending. That is the guy I am voting for.

Looking at the shape this country is in right now, looking at what Obama says he is going to do (STILL) when he knows there is no money to do it with...the Dems on the banking comittee and the ones getting rich while our economy was going down the tubes...you on the left have such a problem with the "rich" but Franklin Raines, Timothy Howard, James Johnson...ALL advising Obama...got RICH dragging Fannie Mae to the ground and all of us with them...and Obama the MOST liberal senator in his voting record...that isn't CHANGE. That is the same old Washington politics.

You really can't see that? Really?
GO FIGHT WIN
MCCAIN!!!!!
Do I want to fight?
Oh yes, I want to have an email war! Lets go, first one to type the dirtiest word wins!

Sheesh. Does your mommy know you are on here?

But seriously, get help.
Sometimes it is necessary to fight, whether we want to or not...
not one service member wants to be in Iraq, but they ARE doing good things over there. Unfortunately, our media is so biased that we rarely see the good that comes of our efforts. I do not believe that the war is senseless and it is not because I "have to believe" any such thing. It is because someone needed to stop Hussein before he became another Hitler. He was well on his way. Also, by fighting a little on other soil, I believe that we keep it from happening on ours and, unfortunately, our general populous doesn't have what it takes to defend their own way of life. Someone else has to do it for them.
I don't know why you would choose this fight anyway...sm
Bennetts words are right there for all to see/hear. This came out of his mouth, you can't make this stuff up.

If you can't see any wrong, hate, inappropriateness in what he said then that's on you.
Well....we know they have no stomach for the fight. ;-) (nm)
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Thank you for your post.....some of us do fight
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She's willing to fight for the blob....(sm)
but not the turkey!!  The voice of the turkey will be heard!!!!  LOL.
P.S. I hope you fight to the end.
There should be no way you should take a smaller amount if he was insured for a certain amount.
Not to get a fight started...just an observation...
that little twinge is probably be the Holy Spirit and you would be well served to maybe listen to it....? Or perhaps you think not listening to the twinge in favor of listening to John Edwards is the better path.

God bless!
One more question...and I am NOT trying to start a fight....
just curious as to what you mean by "extremely conservative viewpoint?" Could you give examples? I won't even respond if you do not want me to...I just want to know what you consider an extremely conservative viewpoint.

Thanks!
why did you even bring this up - looks like you are trying to start a fight
Everytime a subject is brought out you seem to like to interject a bash to Sam. I've been reading the posts and nowhere in response to my post here did I see sam post a "message with the express intent of wreaking havoc and instigating argument". I'm reading the responses to my post about issues and I'm not seeing one from sam called "let the games begin", so I have no idea what you are talking about. If your talking about another post awhile back, then start a new thread, but for Pete's sake don't drag it into mine. Forget sam - it looks like you are the one who is trying to start arguments. Leave your personal hatred out of this and be an adult for once. Posts like this I would expect from my 12 year old, but we are adults here. What's frustrating is to finally start reading about a lot of issues that both sides would like to know about and info they are sharing with us and then all of a sudden - bam, here comes your post bashing sam. I'm sitting here now looking at all the responses to my post and I'm not seeing the one you are talking about. Lets stick to issues and facts. It also sounds like some other posters want that too.
No fight. Just looking for space and issues.
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I still vote for a jello fight
I mean since that's about how silly these campaigns have gotten :)

But seriously, why waste this much money on campaigning from either side? I admit it was just a bit of a pot shot at Obama (sorry!) but Mccain could do it too.

Then again our nation pays celebrities and professional athletes millions and teachers and police/fire/EMS etc make barely above minimum wage...

No wonder we are going down the crapper! Where are our priorities? When it's more important to see Lindsey Lohan's tadadada instead of paying teachers decent money to teach "our future".

*sigh* Maybe I'll go to Australia. I don't ever hear anything about Australians, 'cept for barbies and kangaroos and Steve Irwin (God rest his soul!). :-D


Not picking a fight, truly curious

As a nonbeliever what do you think it is that makes you feel good inside when you do something good?  I don't know much about atheists, always thought there wasn't much to know, except they don't believe in God and so I would assume when they die they believe that everything stops right there.  I feel that there has to be a better life in the world to come so I am asking a sincere question which is thought provoking at least to me.  If a loved one dies, how do you deal with it?  What happens to them.  When you die what happens to you?


Not picking a fight, truly curious

As a nonbeliever what do you think it is that makes you feel good inside when you do something good?  I don't know much about atheists, always thought there wasn't much to know, except they don't believe in God and so I would assume when they die they believe that everything stops right there.  I feel that there has to be a better life in the world to come so I am asking a sincere question which is thought provoking at least to me.  If a loved one dies, how do you deal with it?  What happens to them.  When you die what happens to you?


Keep it about the politics. Argue, fight it out...
disagree, agree, whatever. It's not a personal bash board to personally attack and insult other posters though.
At least Obama knows WHICH COUNTRY the fight is with
Not Iraq, since he doesn't have a Daddy that he has to clean up after, he can just go to the right country immediately and bypass the special agenda that fueled the last guy!
The opposition is going to fight the other side...
no matter who it is. George Washington was the only president that did not face opposition to his being the president - at least for the first term. Mind you, he was not elected to his first term and after his first four years when he was asked to serve another four, he was beaten down from both sides so much so that he swore he would never enter into politics again. This is the father of our country - the man who helped win our freedom from England! If he can't escape from being shot down at every turn, what makes anyone else who runs for president think they can? It's the nature of the beast and comes with the job.

What's the old saying? You can make some of the people happy some of the time, but you can't make all of the people happy all of the time.
You would pick a fight with anyone, wouldnt you?
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yep. Its Fox. Just googled it. word for word. nm

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Not one word. One defitinion of a word.
Cult: 1. A system of religious worship or ritual.

Or how about this:

Cult: A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

Or my personal favorite:

Cult: A self-identified group of people who share a narrowly defined interest or perspective.

NYC using fed millions to fight sick WTC workers. sm
Shame on them. Looks like the articles by the Daily News is finally getting them some much needed attention.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/438101p-369136c.html
Syrians fight off attack on U.S. Embassy

How can this be?  I thought Syria was one of those Islamofascist countries harboring the evil doers who hate us for our freedom and a potential target on Bush's hit list after (before?) Iran.  How could they possibly save American lives?


Syrians fight off attack on U.S. Embassy





By SAM F. GHATTAS, Associated Press Writer 25 minutes ago



Armed Islamic militants attempted to storm the U.S. Embassy in a brazen attack Tuesday, the government said. Four people were killed, including three of the assailants. There was no immediate claim of responsibility, but an al-Qaida offshoot group was suspected, Syria's ambassador to the United States said.


No Americans were hurt in the attack, in which the militants used automatic rifles, hand grenades and at least one van rigged with explosives.


The al-Qaida offshoot group, called Jund al-Sham, has been blamed for several attacks in Syria in recent years, the Syrian ambassador, Imad Moustapha, said in comments to CNN.


Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice praised Syrian security agents for repelling the attack, but added it was too early to know who may have been behind it.


I think it's very early to try and speculate why this may have happened, said Rice, speaking at a news conference in Nova Scotia Tuesday with her Canadian counterpart, Peter MacKay.


The attackers apparently did not breach the high walls surrounding the embassy's white compound in the city's diplomatic neighborhood.


One of Syria's anti-terrorism forces was killed and 11 other people were wounded, the official news agency reported. The wounded including a police officer, two Iraqis and seven people employed at nearby technical workshop.


A Chinese diplomat also was hit in the face by shrapnel and slightly injured while standing on top of a garage at the Chinese Embassy, China's Foreign Ministry said. The diplomat, political counselor Li Hongyu, was in stable condition at a hospital, the ministry said.


A witness said a Syrian guard outside the U.S. Embassy also was killed, but the government did not immediately confirm that. As at most American embassies worldwide, a local guard force patrols outside the compound's walls while U.S. Marines are mostly responsible for guarding classified documents and fighting off attackers inside the compound.


Witnesses also said the gunmen tried to throw hand grenades into the embassy compound, shouting Allahu akbar! or God is great! It was not clear if any of the grenades made it over the walls, which are about 8 feet high.


The attack came at a time of high tension between the United States and Syria over the recent Israeli-Hezbollah war in neighboring Lebanon. In Damascus, the sentiment has become increasingly anti-American.


Syria has seen previous attacks by Islamic militants. In June, Syrian anti-terrorism police fought Islamic militants near the Defense Ministry in a gunbattle that killed five people and wounded four. In 2004, four people were killed in a clash between police and a team of suspected bombers targeting the Canadian Embassy.


The Bush administration has been critical of the tight control that the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad has over its people. Rice, meeting with her Canadian counterpart in Nova Scotia, would not speculate on whether Tuesday's attack may be an indication that the regime's control is slipping.


White House press secretary Tony Snow also expressed gratitude to Syria.


Syrian officials came to aid of the Americans, Snow said. The U.S. government is grateful for the assistance the Syrians provided in going after the attackers, and once again, that illustrates the importance of Syria being an important ally in the war on terror.


It does not mean they are an ally. We are hoping they will become an ally and make the choice of fighting against terrorists, he said, adding that the Bush administration does not know who is responsible for the attack.


Washington recalled Ambassador Margaret Scobey after the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri in 2005, amid suspicions that Damascus had a role in it. She has not returned since, effectively downgrading U.S. diplomatic representation to the level of charge d'affaires.


Pools of blood lay on the sidewalk outside the U.S. Embassy, near a burned car apparently used by the attackers. A sport utility vehicle with U.S. diplomatic tags had a bullet hole in its windshield, and the windows of nearby guard houses also were shattered.

There were conflicting reports of what happened.

Syrian TV said one car was rigged with explosives but never was detonated by the attackers. But one witness said a second car did explode, and TV video showed a burned car.

The Interior Ministry, which is in charge of police, said a fourth attacker now in detention was wounded in what it called a terrorist attack. The report, carried on state-run television, said anti-terror units brought the situation under control and an investigation was under way.

In Washington, a State Department spokesman confirmed the attack by unknown assailants but had few details. Local authorities have responded and are on the scene, said spokesman Kurtis Cooper said.

A U.S. Embassy statement said the embassy came under armed attack at 10:10 a.m. and that all embassy personnel were safe. One Syrian guard was injured by gunfire and was hospitalized in a stable condition, the statement said.

The embassy's charge d'affaires, Michael Corbin, met with Interior Minister Bassam Abdel Maguid at the scene, and spoke by phone with assistant minister of foreign affairs, Ahmed Arnous, according to the statement.

It said the Syrian government has pledged full security cooperation.

About 30 Syrian guards usually are posted around the embassy 24 hours a day, Moustapha said.

State television said four armed attackers attempted to storm the embassy, using automatic rifles and hand grenades. Syrian security guards attacked the gunmen, killing three and wounding a fourth, TV said.

The attackers came in two cars and parked one that was rigged with explosives in front of the embassy but did not blow it up, state-run TV reported. Explosives experts dismantled the bomb, it said.

But a witness told The Associated Press that two gunmen drove up in front of the embassy, got out of their car, shot at the Syrian sentries at the building's entrance, and then detonated explosives in the car.

The witness, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, said the security personnel fired back, and security forces rushed to the scene.

Television showed a delivery van loaded with pipe bombs strapped to large propane gas canisters outside the embassy. Had the bombs detonated, the explosions could have caused massive damage.

The video also showed the charred remains of a smaller car parked several feet behind the van.

Up to 40 U.S. diplomats are posted at the embassy, which is average in size, according to Tom Case, a deputy spokesman at the State Department.




Ron Paul supporter? Not wanting to fight, just asking.
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Why should O be desperate? Pubs have been spoiling for a fight
All nice and legal, headed up by a brilliant, constitutional attorney. DOJ is considering the request. Stay tuned.
Don't fight it, sweetie. Let the love in. You'll feel better.

If possible, think for one moment what it would mean for Israeli troops to fight in Iraq. TI
If I need to say anymore, my suspicions will be confirmed.
Don't want a fight, just want to ask, Does Obama respect the American Flag?

I saw this picture of his airplane before the makeover



and here it is after the makeover


His "symbol" "slogan" "trademark" or whateverthatis replaced the flag. I'm
sorry but I just don't understand why unless he has no respect for it.


Can someone explain without getting upset; just explain it.


Pretty hard to fight city hall........
There isn't a whole lot he can do with the pubs obstructing everything he is trying to accomplish. My theory is, they put up McPalin because they KNEW they wouldn't win because they have NO IDEA how to clean this freakin' mess up either. That way, just possibly, the RNC can gain some ground since they have all but buried themselves. Kinda like Carter inheriting Nixon's upstanding accomplishments. Gotta love the RNC, they are such an honest, upstanding, homophobic and value-oriented tribe. How's that for a wide stance?