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Fails to explain the support he is getting from

Posted By: ....... on 2008-12-15
In Reply to: The protesters, who were reportedly made up of followers of radical Shia cleric Moqtada al-Sadr... - sm

all over the Arab world...predominantly Sunni Moslems, BTW. You forgot the part about burning Bush in effigy.


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Is Obama losing support or winning support?
John Clodfelter of Mechanicsville, Va., whose son was among the 17 sailors killed in the Cole bombing, said he arrived at the meeting with apprehension over the decision to close the prison. But after listening to the president and being assured that the terrorism suspects would not be released, Mr. Clodfelter said his opinion changed.

“I did not vote for the man,” Mr. Clodfelter said, “but the way he talks to you, you can’t help but believe in him. He left me with a very positive feeling that he’s going to get this done right.”
If he fails
We will succeed. We as a country together will succeed. It means we will not be thrown into socialism. Even Vladimir Putin has been telling the leaders of our country that they know first hand about socialism and it is not a path we want to take. So if he fails it means the country will succeed. Who wouldn't want that. It's not a person thing, if there was anyone else in the country trying to drag our country down the same hole I would be against it. I was born and raised in a free America. I grew up with the beliefs instilled in me that I can do anything I set my mind on doing and the harder I work the more I will benefit. But those ideas are now eroding away and the people who are trying to be successful and get ahead are being punished. I love the country the way it was (before Bush and Clinton that is). I love our founding fathers for risking their lives to create two of the most important documents of our history - The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. I don't want to see it re-written and our laws changed. It is perfect the way it is and nobody should be trying to re-write or do away with it (or just ignore it altogether). So if failure is the option so the country will succeed then by all means. This has nothing to do with past presidents and what they did or didn't do. This has to do with everything that is going on now (present day) and what is being planned for in the future.

I want the country and all Americans to succeed, and I want a leader who will back that and not punish us by taxing us more and spending all our money (and the money of our kids and grandkids) while lining the pockets of the rich (themselves and their buddies). I have lived a life of hard work and honesty and why I'm being punished to pay for the people who have not been honest, who went out and bought a house they could not afford and knew they couldn't afford but bought it anyway. The ones who racked up their credit cards, not with necessities but with all the latest and greatest gadgets and entertainment type things, vacations they couldn't afford and shouldn't have, and now I'm going to be taxed to help bail them out when I have done without (last vacation I took was 4 years ago and that was to go back for my moms funeral - oh yeah, what a great vacation that was), I'm sorry, but too many people are being bailed out of things they should be responsible for. Too many companies are getting bailed out and not using the money for what it is. Too many projects are now added to that atrocity of a spending bill that in no way will benefit the country and people, and only ensure a re-election for the politician and where is it coming from???? My hard working tax dollars. Anytime anyone tries to get ahead they are being punished. I'm sorry but I don't want to see that succeed.

Too much is wrong in Washington and as much as he is an great and eloquent speaker his actions are louder.
When all else fails.....(sm)

I have no idea why I can't get the link to hold. So....


Google:  The Rachel Maddow Show


It will be the video entitled "The torture documents are in the mail."


Unless you see a link down here....trying again.


what it fails to take into account...
you will find this many times on this board.... that calculator does not allow for the fact the President-elect is going to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire and we will all be paying more. if you search archives you will find the link to the calculator that shows you how much more you will be paying.
Why? Because she fails to see your brilliance?
You don't need adoration from others...

Truthseeker has been around a long time on this board. We do not need your synposis of her.

Personally, I think you are full of yourself...
I guess Harvard fails to provide that course, eh?
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When all else fails, play the race card, right?
"You have a problem with someone speaking against THIS president, cause he is black and you can't stand it!"

This is what happens when you let Janine Garafalo tell you what to think.

Puh-THETIC.
Then explain his church and minister. Explain that to me. nm
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SP wardrobe fails to make silk purse from sow's ear.
How many hockey/soccer moms do you know that shop at Sak's and Neiman's?  Sour the net on Michell's makeover last summer and you will come up with some radically different rhetoric.  That $150,000 might be better sent down ticket to rescue GOP's one-woman disaster area Michelle Bachmann's tanked MN 6th district campaign against Elwyn Tinklenbeg after he raked in a cool million following her HUAC comments last Friday night.   
Yes, key word is FIGHT, you don't debate. You name call and badger, and when that fails
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When racism fails to gain political traction, switch to
We can see just how well that's working for the camp.
O's votes support his claims. JM's votes support Bush.
Believe what you like. Voting records tell the tale. Could use a few more details on that budget. Just what programs will he slash and and how many tax dollars will be directed away from middle class and in the direction of the rich? How much longer can the infrastructure afford to crumble?

JM adopted O's withdrawal plan when he saw how well it went over with the public in an election year. He flipped on the war once. What's to stop him from flipping again once elected? The nation is war weary. Some prefer a surge in diplomacy, not military answers to diplomatic failures. Ask the Iraqis who have lost more than 100,000 among them how sucessful the war has been. Obama has always understood that the OBL/Taliban live in Afganistan, not Iraq. JM, a little slow on the draw there.

I see nothing in JMs platform that backs his claims about transparency. I see specific plan on the O side under technology initiatives, continued initiatives which originated under Clinton and were reversed during the undercover Bush administration. Pork barrel spending for pubs means something different than it does to dems. Slash the poor to give to the rich? Hard seel in the current economic frefall. Also find nothing in JM's plan to address runaway contract corruption in Iraq. Having Halliburton and companies there props up those struggling American corporations. Show me the plan.

Antiglobal/antidiplomacy. No surprise there. This is about the futureworld, not American imperial delusions of grandeur. So much data on the drilling scam being an immediate relief for gas problems out there it is not worth addressing. Can you say T-Bone Pickens, i.e., we can't drill our way out of this one. He should know. Been an oil man all his life.

Since these are just a few, what else do you have up your sleeve?
And who would u support?
Is this Tara again?
I don't support HRC but......she has won the
That means, for the people that actually turn out to vote, she has gotten their votes, which is what a democracy is all about. Delegates are not constitutional in the first place....they were illegally put in place to supposedly keep one state from taking over the voting process; however, super delegates are completely illegal and have absolute conflict of interest.

So, Obama has NOT won the popular vote.....HRC has. I don't care for either of them, but looking at Obama's bedfellows, it's quite clear where his thoughts really lie and I certainly don't want anyone like that running my country. We are taxed enough without representation of those taxes and he has made it quite clear, all he wants to do is RAISE taxes and GIVE TO THE POOR. Pleeeeeze, we have so many social programs in my county alone, it's pathetic. THe ones geared towards children are not working, Headstart is just a babysitter for a bunch of teenage moms (in my city) who sit all day, DO NOT work, and are so lazy, they can't even get off their butts and walk their 3 year old out the Headstart bus that picks their children up curbside. Stand at the door in their PJ's, kids aren't even dressed when the bus comes, and the lady has to get off the bus and stand hollering for them to come on NOW. It's sickening to watch. And, Obama wants more of that? How about calling it what it is.......children who aren't learning in school are not learning because they go home to sloppy lazy parents, some no parents at all, living with whoever they're push off on, and homework is the last thing considered important. The only meal most get is at HeadStart OR free lunches at school. Until Obama wants to call it what it is and stop blaming the education system, then he's no better than any other candidate who just likes to point fingers instead of getting a backbone and say what the problem really is......NO parents, drunk parents, doped up parents.....the list goes on and on......
They support NRA
so you can hunt and so you can defend yourself if someone tries to hurt you.  It is called self defense.  Killing an innocent child isn't self defense....it is called murder and it is also selfish.  I just don't understand why some of you people would rather save a rapists and murders life and you don't believe in the death penalty for criminals but you have no problem ending the life of an innocent child who has done nothing wrong and has no choice in the matter. 
I support what we need to do -
I do not say I am against war in general - I am against a war that should never have been! I do not want to send my son to die based on lies and deceit.

And yes we have schools in this country - but they are all underfunded and could use a lot of that money we are putting into building Iraqi schools...

We have programs to feed our hungry - but not enough to cover all the hungry or needy!

I just do not think we should be putting our resources into other countries when our country is so in need. Not only our financial resources, but our human resources (our soldiers).
What does that mean.......if we all support?
It is not the job of my country to support or supply contraceptives to anyone outside this country. If those countries want to stop their pregnancies, they will have to figure that out for themselves, not with my dollars.

Maybe start by sterilization? Not our job to "support" any country monetarily to take care of their population of obviously unwanted births. Yes, I will verbally support they stop the reason for the pregnancies in the first place, but I do not agree to my having to pay for it.

That's their problem!
We should support him? Not if we do not like
That is like saying Hail to Hitler because WE HAVE TOO, even though we all know how he turned out. I am not saying O is like that, but gee whiz, I WILL NOT SUPPORT HIM OR GOVERNMENT if I do not like what they are doing and so far, I DO NOT. In fact, give my money back from the last bailout and I REFUSE FOR MY MONEY GOING TO NEW FURNITURE IN AN OFFICE, MONEY FOR PRODUCERS TO MAKE MOVIES THAT SOME FRANKLY SUCK AND SO ON.

Sorry, just irritated with our government who frankly SUCK AT THEIR JOB!
I don't have to support anything I don't believe in...

and I believe we got shanghied into another Vietnam. Sadam Hussein was a vicious dictator, but he kept the lid on that boiling pot. Who supplied him with arms and training in the first place? I have family who served in desert storm and were recycled through this cluster and I still don't support it. Army suicides are at an all-time high, why? Because they believe in what they are doing? It's a crushing shame how our troops have been treated. And that's all I have to say about that.


You don't have to support anything you don't believe in....
We already have to protect ourselves - my uncle's house was broken into the other day, someone else in the community was broken into and their pet dog was stomped to death. I saw on the news a group of 4 armed men attempting to break into a home and the homeowner saw them and had fast access to a weapon and a firefight broke out. You haven't seen nuthin' yet. Wait till the food pantries empty out.........everybody better be armed and dangerous and don't ever fool yourself into believing our country isn't already occupied by terrorists - because it is. I will fight to the death (already have cancer, might as well go out with style instead of in a diaper).
Again with no pub support....(sm)
If this thing works, those pubs need to start grabbing thier ankles.
Right now I don't support any
politicans because they all suck, IMO.  I did not vote for Obama and I don't support him or our congress.  I don't like him giving Nancy Pelosi free reign to right spending bills.  I don't like Obama turning healthcare reform over to congress to write.  I just do not see things out of Obama that makes me feel positive about the direction our country is heading. 
Please explain to me what we are not
doing to protect ourselves here?  You just assume there's nothing in place here to protect us because you believe all the unsubstantiated liberal talking points that come out ever day.   Believe it or not part of protecting us here at home is making the world a more stable place.  We can't just hope they won't make the long journey over here like they did in the 1700 and 1800s.  Today, in just a few short hours they can walk off of any commercial airline or private plane.  We are in Iraq for a myriad of reasons including protecting our own boarders.  Why does this have to be explained over and over again to you?  A lot of liberals call conservatives narrow minded, but many of you have tunnel vision to a degree I've never seen before.
Let me explain how I can say that.

I agree with you that there were inciting posts from both political viewpoints on the conservative board, myself included.  However, I think what is being pointed out was a general trend of "anything goes" for the conservative posters and high deletion/banning rates for the liberals.  This has been apparent for a long time and complained about many, many times (usually complaints are deleted so they are virtually impossible to document at this point).  I personally was warned once for "picking on" Nan, when objectively, it really was more the other way around.  There is a sickness of spirit on the conservative board at times.  I was drawn into this and became "ill" also at times.  I am not proud of this.


As far as the moderator or administrator, she did post in the Christian board some time ago regarding her beliefs.  They were evangelical Christian, kind of extreme.  That, coupled with occasional comments on the political board in addition to deleting LOTS of liberal posts and actively supporting and not reigning in the Conservatives is, well, just common sense as to her political leanings. 


Explain please
I don't have ESP...
So please explain this:
If marriage is for procreation, and Mary and Joseph were married, why and how was Mary still supposedly a VIRGIN when Jesus was born?
Well, then perhaps you could explain to me
why Saddam's atrocities didn't seem to bother us in the 80s when we wanted his help against Iran?
This might help explain why.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/washington/07recruit.html?ex=1309924800&en=1be0e7d4e2aac8d3&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss


7, 2006



Hate Groups Are Infiltrating the Military, Group Asserts




A decade after the Pentagon declared a zero-tolerance policy for racist hate groups, recruiting shortfalls caused by the war in Iraq have allowed large numbers of neo-Nazis and skinhead extremists to infiltrate the military, according to a watchdog organization.


The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks racist and right-wing militia groups, estimated that the numbers could run into the thousands, citing interviews with Defense Department investigators and reports and postings on racist Web sites and magazines.


We've got Aryan Nations graffiti in Baghdad, the group quoted a Defense Department investigator as saying in a report to be posted today on its Web site, www.splcenter.org. That's a problem.


A Defense Department spokeswoman said officials there could not comment on the report because they had not yet seen it.


The center called on Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to appoint a task force to study the problem, declare a new zero tolerance policy and strictly enforce it.


The report said that neo-Nazi groups like the National Alliance, whose founder, William Pierce, wrote The Turner Diaries, the novel that was the inspiration and blueprint for Timothy J. McVeigh's bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building, sought to enroll followers in the Army to get training for a race war.


The groups are being abetted, the report said, by pressure on recruiters, particularly for the Army, to meet quotas that are more difficult to reach because of the growing unpopularity of the war in Iraq.


The report quotes Scott Barfield, a Defense Department investigator, saying, Recruiters are knowingly allowing neo-Nazis and white supremacists to join the armed forces, and commanders don't remove them from the military even after we positively identify them as extremists or gang members.


Mr. Barfield said Army recruiters struggled last year to meet goals. They don't want to make a big deal again about neo-Nazis in the military, he said, because then parents who are already worried about their kids signing up and dying in Iraq are going to be even more reluctant about their kids enlisting if they feel they'll be exposed to gangs and white supremacists.


The 1996 crackdown on extremists came after revelations that Mr. McVeigh had espoused far-right ideas when he was in the Army and recruited two fellow soldiers to aid his bomb plot. Those revelations were followed by a furor that developed when three white paratroopers were convicted of the random slaying of a black couple in order to win tattoos and 19 others were discharged for participating in neo-Nazi activities.


The defense secretary at the time, William Perry, said the rules were meant to leave no room for racist and extremist activities within the military. But the report said Mr. Barfield, who is based at Fort Lewis, Wash., had said that he had provided evidence on 320 extremists there in the past year, but that only two had been discharged. He also said there was an online network of neo-Nazis.


They're communicating with each other about weapons, about recruiting, about keeping their identities secret, about organizing within the military, he said. Several of these individuals have since been deployed to combat missions in Iraq.


The report cited accounts by neo-Nazis of their infiltration of the military, including a discussion on the white supremacist Web site Stormfront. There are others among you in the forces, one participant wrote. You are never alone.


An article in the National Alliance magazine Resistance urged skinheads to join the Army and insist on being assigned to light infantry units.


The Southern Poverty Law Center identified the author as Steven Barry, who it said was a former Special Forces officer who was the alliance's military unit coordinator.


Light infantry is your branch of choice because the coming race war and the ethnic cleansing to follow will be very much an infantryman's war, he wrote. It will be house-to-house, neighborhood-by-neighborhood until your town or city is cleared and the alien races are driven into the countryside where they can be hunted down and 'cleansed.'


He concluded: As a professional soldier, my goal is to fill the ranks of the United States Army with skinheads. As street brawlers, you will be useless in the coming race war. As trained infantrymen, you will join the ranks of the Aryan warrior brotherhood.


Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company


Like I said....we all only have to explain our
own decisions to God. Remember your argument here to me. It may come in handy.

God bless.
Someone explain this to me...

If you are a suspected terrorist or suspected terrorist sympathizer you can go to Gitmo or sent out of the country to a place where torture is A-OK for the rest of your life w/o being given a reason for the incarceration or access to our legal system, even if you are an American citizen but....if you are on a list of terror suspects, you can buy a gun just like everyone else.

Published on Saturday, May 5, 2007 by Associated Press
NRA: Don’t Ban Gun Sales to Suspected Terrorists
by Sam Hananel

WASHINGTON - The National Rifle Association is urging the Bush administration to withdraw its support of a bill that would prohibit suspected terrorists from buying firearms. Backed by the Justice Department, the measure would give the attorney general the discretion to block gun sales, licenses or permits to terror suspects.

In a letter this week to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, NRA executive director Chris Cox said the bill, offered last week by Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., “would allow arbitrary denial of Second Amendment rights based on mere ’suspicions’ of a terrorist threat.” 0506 07

“As many of our friends in law enforcement have rightly pointed out, the word ’suspect’ has no legal meaning, particularly when it comes to denying constitutional liberties,” Cox wrote.

In a letter supporting the measure, Acting Assistant Attorney General Richard Hertling said the bill would not automatically prevent a gun sale to a suspected terrorist. In some cases, federal agents may want to let a sale go forward to avoid compromising an ongoing investigation.

Hertling also notes there is a process to challenge denial of a sale.

Current law requires gun dealers to conduct a criminal background check and deny sales if a gun purchaser falls under a specified prohibition, including a felony conviction, domestic abuse conviction or illegal immigration. There is no legal basis to deny a sale if a purchaser is on a terror watch list.

“When I tell people that you can be on a terrorist watch list and still be allowed to buy as many guns as you want, they are shocked,” said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which supports Lautenberg’s bill.

In the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings, lawmakers are considering a number of measures to strengthen gun sale laws. The NRA, which usually opposes increased restrictions on firearms, is taking different positions depending on the proposal.

“Right now law enforcement carefully monitors all firearms sales to those on the terror watch list,” said NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam. “Injecting the attorney general into the process just politicizes it.”

A 2005 study by the Government Accountability Office found that 35 of 44 firearm purchase attempts over a five-month period made by known or suspected terrorists were approved by the federal law enforcement officials.

© 2007 The Associated Press.


Will someone please explain to me -
Why do you keep saying our vote does not count and that the next President has already been chosen? 
I for one, have too much to do, to try to explain it....sm
to you, because frankly, I'm getting so I don't care.

There's nothing to find out, and they're making stuff up, so until you have something substantial, I have work to do.


However, if you would have posted about the screaming witch woman from up north and her rag on her, I would have really busted a gut being upset.

As it is, I'm just letting it all go, because Gov. Palin is better than you, better than me, and better than the media.

She will rise above it all, and come out on top. Of this, I have no doubts whatsoever.


That's all I have to say on the matter, cuz I have too much to type for more here....


Look at who you are trying to explain this to
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Please explain...
Please explain exactly how Democratic voters are misled.  How are they being misled???  What, can they not read the English on the voter card?  All I know is Ohio had 200,000 dead and nonexistant voters voting for Obama.  I don't think it's the Democratic voters who are being misled, I think it's the American people, who don't realize what a complete scam is going on with this ACORN group. 
Would someone please explain
How McCain  can "guarantee" he's going to win as he said on Meet The Press yesterday?
Perhaps this will help explain....
Remember him talking about the tax "credits?" That is his way of floating giving tax rebates to people who pay no taxes. This is the opinion from someone on the other side of the pond...and explains it pretty well.

OBAMA TAX PLAN – 95% BULL?

Obama’s tax plan is receiving much praise from some elements of the Tory blogosphere. Promising tax cuts for everything and everyone is certainly a very attractive position, and I can see why so many ObamaCons are attracted to it; but does the claim really stand up to scrutiny?

Firstly, if you look at Obama’s promise of tax cuts for 95% of Americans and then look at the billions of dollars needed for the government programs that he has pledged to implement or expand, and common sense should tell you that thing simply do not add up.

Secondly, the 95% of all Americans figure is suspect. Since more than 30% of working Americans don't pay any income taxes now - many in fact get a welfare check - how can they get a "tax cut?" So how does Obama back up this 95% claim? Well those of you with long memories may remember Bill Clinton’s battle to change the definition of what “is” is? What we are witnessing here is an attempt to change the definition of tax cut. To me, and I am guessing to most people, a tax cut means you get to keep more of what you earn. But for the Obama Democrats, a tax cut is no longer letting you keep more of what you earn. In their lexicon, a tax cut includes tens of billions of dollars in government handouts disguised by the infamous "tax credit." All but one of these tax credits would be "refundable," which is Washington-speak for an income transfer -- a government check -- from taxpayers to non taxpayers. In other words, increased welfare, a Demogrant if you will. Obama's marketing genius is to call this increase in welfare a tax cut; and given how UK conservatives have watched the collapse into failure of Gordon Browns tax credit system, I am mystified why they would support Obama’s.

That being said...he says it expands welfare. I say it is socialist. Same end result. Marxist redistribution of wealth. But it is working...LOL. He is sure hiding it from YOU.
Let's see if I can explain this to you..
most blacks voted for Obama; most are against gay marriage, as their vote points out. How hard is that for you to comprehend? The black vote FOR Obama hurt the gay marriage vote. Is that simpler for you to understand?
I really tried to explain to you......... sm
in my other response to you above that I don't hate you and that I don't hate gay people or teach my sons to hate them. I don't know in exactly what way you think I should reach out to gay people. I do know some gay people, and as much as I may like them as a person, I would have to tell them if they presented the subject my feelings on it and why.
Please explain....(sm)
why you think it would be *trickle-up poverty* and how that works.  I can't wait to hear this one...LOL.
explain to me
all their "tax breaks" then
because maybe im missing the bigger picture.
the middle class... (ME included) got a tax break... my first one EVER... so until I see a better one under Obama's administration, I'll stick with what I believe is a tax break for everyone that pays taxes...
and how is it a fact that the "rich" pays what, like 80% of the taxes?
That would explain why
why a clear 7.2% margin of victory mandate was handed over on Nov 4, why seas of humanity were jumping for joy that night, why DC is filling up to the rafters as Jan 20 approaches and why the rest of the world is joining in our single-digit T-minus-9 countdown. The transition is coming off without a hitch despite your best efforts to protest otherwise, the guy has assembled a blue-ribbon team, has plans in place and is ready to roll. Like I said, you are not handling defeat very well and cannot stand to see REAL leadership emerge after W's scorched earth administration.
Please explain this one........ sm
"*..., even a black man.....*



That's right....even a black man. Is it so hard for you to fathom the idea that someone of a different skin color would be of equal standing to you? Do you just completely reject the ideas of civility and equality? Has it ever occurred to you that this *black man* has every intention of trying to help YOU keep your job and help you keep food on your table?"

Why is it that this inauguration is being tauted, especially by the Democrats, as "an historical event" in which the first African-American man will become POTUS and that is supposedly politically correct, but when a Republican or non-Obama supporter dares utter that he is a black man, they are jumped on like white on rice for being racist and bigoted?
Please explain.....nm
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Please explain something to me.
It this is taxpayer money were are fronting and president and Congress are our electd representatives, why SHOULDN'T they regulate the use of that money to safeguard against excess, mismanagement and misuse of the funds?
Please explain to me how this is

all W's fault?  Creating a breeding ground?  What....do you want us to kick out all arab looking people and their arab children so we don't have homegrown terrorists?  We can't do that. 


As for terrorists threats....don't we generally get a lot of those?  How do we know which ones are real and which ones are pure BS? 


W is out of office.  Now it is Obamarama's turn.  What will you do if we are attacked and Obama fails to listen to warnings?  Are you going to rake him across the coals too or are you still going to blame W? 


Why does this guy know all this stuff about terrorists and attacks?  Who are his sources?


Please explain....(sm)
How a stimulus package with spending (not the pub tax cuts) will encourage a depression. 
Could someone explain to me........... sm

why it is really necessary for Obama to go on the trail around the country to promote his stimulus package?  Shouldn't he be doing this with the Senate and working with them to reach some sort of middle ground?  Seems to me that, whether the people support it or not, if it passes, we are stuck with it in whatever final form it takes.  Why not just save the cost of loading up Air Force 1 and work it out in DC?


I'm not trying to pick a fight over Obama's use of AF1 (certainly, he is entitled to use it).  I am just asking what is the point in trying to garner public support when he should be working with the Senate on this.  


Please explain!
I've never heard "trout pout" before in my life?  What is that all about and why it is a racial insult?
Okay...so explain to me
why Pelosi went to Italy on taxpayer's money!  What I am saying, which you obviously failed to see, was our government needs to cut back as well.  I think it would allow Americans to see that they are cutting back and willing to sacrifice in order to set things straight just like they want the CEOs to do.  Instead, they continue to point their fingers at the CEOs and lecture them and yet they make no effort at all to change their spending ways as well. 
Let me see if I can explain it this way, sm
Say I give you a birthday gift of $20 out of my pocket. That is a gift and you are welcome to use it in any way you see fit. I gave it of my own free will.

However, if I am forced to pay taxes to a government agency to give you help in buying groceries, I feel that the funds should be regulated inasmuch as what they will buy. If I am forced to pay taxes to support another person, it is not of my free will.

So many people see food stamps and Medicaid as a "gift" from the government when it is not that at all. It is taking money that I worked for and earned and giving it to someone else who did not work for it. "Gift" and "give" are not necessarily interchangable.
Can someone please explain why -
Mrs B thinks calling someone a miserable little wretch is better than nasty little wretch and why that is not insulting????

And what a bunch of hooey on the Darwin, Einstein or Newton comment. It was meant as an insult so I wouldn't even try pulling that...

You want to know what I mean when I say Mr. Dean talks through the mouth of a horse - it means he doesn't know what he's talking about. Did I say in my post "you" are the one doing the talking. No, I did not insult you. I spoke of my distrust of Mr. Dean, so what it was the wrong Mr. Dean, who cares and that's not the point.

You said you didn't insult me? Calling me Darwin, Einstein and Newton was certainly an insult. Tell me I'm talking like an a@@ is an insult and sure as you can bet calling me an miserable little wretch is certainly an insult.

I challenged you to provide the links where I started in with the name calling and you didn't. You can't and you treat anyone on this board who has a different opinion than you with rude comments (yes I read some of the other comments you made to other people). When you can't argue with something you resort to name calling. Yeah, whose a "miserable..." now.

I'll explain this because you obviously don't understand it. This is a political board where people can share opinions, articles and talk about politics. Moderator has said time and time again no personal attacks, no name calling. People here have tough skins, but when every post they make is met with calling them names like "snake, prophet, newton, einstein, darwin and miserable little wretch (all used in a derogatory sense), and others you have used" that's when it's time to say enough.

If you don't understand that maybe I can ask the moderator to explain it to you. Better yet you should read her messages at the top of this board because you have not yet. One is titled "Message for all posters on Political Board", and the other is titled "Beware of Flaming. Moderation is Kept Minimum on this Board".

Oh yeah, Don't bother answering.