You're the one who's whining.......
Posted By: sm on 2008-09-16
In Reply to: what, are you now 2 years old? - Emily Ayn
WAH! Get over your self-righteous, phoney self.
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Ah, quit your whining, you're just a know-nothing
God help us, PK, this is the best response we can elicit. I can hear them already. I guess it's easier to just DENY, DENY, DENY and swiftboat than face the truth. Where,exactly, does the proverbial buck stop? javascript:editor_insertHTML('text',' ');
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So you have a roof over your head and you're whining about your
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really, what am i whining about?
if it was about anything it would be about how unbelievably CHILDISH you really are.
I may be everything you call me, but PHONEY is not one of them. I'm as real as they come, which is why I'm not afraid to stand up to your lame attempts at silencing me and anyone else who doesn't agree with your point of view. It's really pathetic that you want to cut down anyone else that doesn't agree with you. People are able to disagree, until someone like you steps in and can only start throwing insults out. if my opinion makes me "self righteous", so be it. but dont EVER call me phoney, it just shows that BS flows freely from your mouth
It's all so much hypocritical whining.
Gee, how much did we wish that people would just lay off a little and let Clinton's private matters stay private for the sake of his family and the nation as a whole.
But NOOOOO, that wouldn't do, would it? The avid glee in exposing his most painful and regrettable bad judgment was the talk of Bushtown, they just HAD to smear it in all our faces and stuff it down our throats ad nauseum - no mercy there, no letting up, no quarter. Vultures.
Now look how they act when people speculate about a former alcoholic and coke blower possibly returning to the habit/s during a time of extreme stress - which is not even a ridculous thing to contemplate, God knows we all know someone who has been caught in this trap. If this is the case it's unfortunate for him, but the point is, it really DOES vitally affect our nation if it's true.
I'm afraid the right handed away its right to credibility on calling for compassion for the personal dignity of the chief executive. You had a chance to show some when the matter DIDN'T affect our nation's security, and you simply blew it big time.
In any case I think it's safe to say that should Bush be tipping a few, he's going to get far better treatment from sympathetic Americans both Republican AND Democrat than his predecessor did for his particular indulgences.
Nope, she's definitely whining...(sm)
Here's what I see. SP gave all of what, 2 or 3 interviews on major networks other than Fox. She fouled those up, not because she was bad at interviews, but because of a serious lack of knowledge. She has yet to give an accurate description of the role of the VP, by the way (did she have 3 tries at that one?). The only other time you saw SP on TV was either on Fox where they just sang Kumbaya or at a rally calling Obama a terrorist. Keep in mind that at the time she was pretty much unknown, so if people wanted to form an opinion of her, she didn't give them much to work with. If she wanted so desparately to show the country her *grit* then why didn't she do more interviews? Oh, and by the way, all reporters bone up before big interviews, and to be quite honest the questions posed to SP looked like a 3rd grader quiz compared to the questions Biden dealt with. Meanwhile, Obama not only showed up on Fox but did a 3 part special with O'Reilly. Biden appeared on Fox as well. In fact, they were both all over the place giving interviews, including the internet. What would you have said about Obama if the only network he had shown up on was MSNBC?
The bottom line is, if she plans on being in national politics, she needs to be able to at least handle mainstream media. If she can't do that (and it's painfully obvious she can't) then how in the world do you think she would be able to handle leaders of other countries, much less anything else?
Nope, she's definitely whining...(sm)
Here's what I see. SP gave all of what, 2 or 3 interviews on major networks other than Fox. She fouled those up, not because she was bad at interviews, but because of a serious lack of knowledge. She has yet to give an accurate description of the role of the VP, by the way (did she have 3 tries at that one?). The only other time you saw SP on TV was either on Fox where they just sang Kumbaya or at a rally calling Obama a terrorist. Keep in mind that at the time she was pretty much unknown, so if people wanted to form an opinion of her, she didn't give them much to work with. If she wanted so desparately to show the country her *grit* then why didn't she do more interviews? Oh, and by the way, all reporters bone up before big interviews, and to be quite honest the questions posed to SP looked like a 3rd grader quiz compared to the questions Biden dealt with. Meanwhile, Obama not only showed up on Fox but did a 3 part special with O'Reilly. Biden appeared on Fox as well. In fact, they were both all over the place giving interviews, including the internet. What would you have said about Obama if the only network he had shown up on was MSNBC?
The bottom line is, if she plans on being in national politics, she needs to be able to at least handle mainstream media. If she can't do that (and it's painfully obvious she can't) then how in the world do you think she would be able to handle leaders of other countries, much less anything else?
This is really funny, mostly because the left is whining about ...
some of the illegals might be terrorists so we have to stop it all now and you are certainly in a state that has it's share of illegals but none of them are terrorists now. My head is spinning. You guys need to get your stories straight. No one knows where the terrorists will come and they won't care what your political leanings are or that you know judo or whatever you know and have a big dog. They aren't going to ask you any questions, and if they did, you wouldn't be able to understand what they were saying. There is no fear in being prepared. But all the pansy butt left who think the terrorists can be reasoned with will get a real wakeup call. And you will be doing what every other gun hating leftist does when they are attacked by someone with a gun. Call a cop to come with his gun and save you. Hypocrits.
I take back the whining remark. sm
I will replace it with pitiful.
Be a big girl and stop whining already
Yeah, I guess in your eyes gays and lesbians should just sit back and be content with being the second-class citizens you would like them to be.
At some point we do have to quit whining
and do something for ourselves. Perpetual victimhood is not healthy.
Weren't you the one crying and whining
about how dare CA take away the rights they had given to gay people and how it shouldn't have been voted on and blah blah blah. You even brought up women's right to vote and how about we overturn that....blah blah blah. Now you want to take away the benefits that marriage has always had just because gay people want everything equal. I do believe that you were one of the ones that said it wasn't fair for gays to have to settle for civil unions and how dare I suggest such a thing.
Honestly....I'd agree to this just to shut you people up because I'm so sick to death of hearing about gay rights and poor gay people.....blah blah blah. Once again....I guess the Bible thumpers that you hate so much will do the compromising and once again give up something of ours to make you happy. Feel better now?
Then why are you whining...er...posting, if you have more important things to do....nm
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There is plenty of conservative activity there. Stop whining.
The simply fact is you were whining and crying about us being on your board sm
when you are almost just as often on ours. Is that a hard concept to get through your noggin or do I need to hire a sky writer?
Ridiculous post. Quit your whining, big babies
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Gee...they left out the Mayor of Detroit whining for money. What's up with that? sm
Detroit is just one of many with their hands out to the feds. Detroit has been a drain on the rest of Michigan for years. The best thing that can happen to Detroit is to cut it loose and float it up the St. Lawrence Seaway and then the rest of the state can get back to business...if there is any left that is.
You're entitled to your opinion. I guess it depends on what side of the spectrum you're on.nm
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We're not defending Bush we're pointing out the obvious
All you see in your view is Bush, Bush, Bush. Nobody else exists. You have yet to answer any of the questions I posed yesterday. We're not the one obsessing about Bush. I'm sure you'll counter that with I don't owe you any answers! It's really telling that for five or six days this board was mute about the Israel/Lebanon situation. You were too busy posting trash news about Bush like nothing was even happening, but I know that the left has wait for its talking points. You all cannot formulate opinions on your own. You have boilerplates ready to go though. *This is Bush's fault because _____________ but you have to wait on Howard Dean, Bill Clinton, etc. etc. to fill in the blanks for you. It's not just a phenomenon here but with all the left. You can count on at least two days of silence when something unforseen breaks out in the world, because they have to retreat to their bunkers to get their talking points straight, but it will always start with *This is Bush's fault because....
Hey, if they're smoking cigs, they're paying for SCHIP.
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They're too lazy to show patriotism......they're waiting
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So you're not racist but you're most definitely SEXIST and AGEIST!!!
"Someone more in our age group..."
"She should be taking care of her family."
Your true colors are showing, and they're truly ugly.
Just because they're LOSING doesn't mean they're VICTIMS.
What is it with people these days? You think that just because Hamas is getting its fanny handed to it that that magically makes them victims, and we should all weep and throw cash at them?
From the dawn of time, lesser civilizations have fallen to stronger ones.
It's why the human species survived and the neanderthals didn't.
It's why Rome conquered the Celts.
It's why the Barbarians conquered the Western Roman Empire.
It's why the British conquered the American Indians.
It's why the Spanish conquered the Aztecs.
It's why the Muslims conquered Israel the first time. But, since their societal progres seems to have permanently parked in the Stone Age, now Israel is conquering them right back.
Deal with it.
You're right. They're simply not worthy of a reply.
They're not tax breaks....they're tax credits
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I'm snotty, you're rude...we're even....
My dearrrr....not everyone in this country pays taxes. So you are wrong there. Obama said "spread the wealth." From his own mouth. The interview in Canada...economic parity and redistribution. Words from HIS mouth. If you believed those words from his mouth as much as you believed other words from his mouth, you would know he is a socialist. Selective memory is a wonderful thing ain't it??
You're right. They're all wack-jobs... nothing
so they try to make themselves feel important by standing around on street corners with their posters and their dollies.
Most of them are just buffoons, good for nothing other than being laughed at by the rest of us. But the ones that totally lose all reason, and go so far as to shoot people (in a church of all places...) is pretty off the deep end.
You're a liar. GT didn't curse. You're a filthy liar, but you are a gift from God.
God sent you here to as a constant reminder of the kind of person I DON'T want to be and if I ever have a bad day when I feel temporarily stupid, all I have to do is read your posts, and I realize there are those out there who are much worse off than I am and for them it's not temporary.
They're doing to this board what they're trying to do
to the whole country. They're trying to take it over. They want to control which God you believe in, who you love and what you do with your body, be it regarding life or regarding death. If you don't voluntarily agree to turn your free will over to their control, they will hunt you down and nag you to death (since they can't do anything more violent on a message board). It's obvious they are sick, sick people and need major help.
But they ARE like watching a car wreck and are sometimes hard to ignore.
I've thought about it, and for me personally, the very best thing to do is ignore them and for 2 reasons:
1. Ignoring them and not reading their posts makes my visit on this board much more pleasant. I already know I'm not missing anything because there isn't one post on this entire board written by them that has contributed anything of value or intelligence.
2. If we all refuse to read and respond to their posts, they might give up and go find another board to terrorize. I doubt that, though, because they've taken over this board and simply don't have the CLASS to leave. They take pride in their bully on the playground mentality and are proud of their ignorant behavior. They will probably just continue to pat themselves on their backs on this board. The only thing that might startle them and cause them to stop is that the NUMBER of posts on the Liberal board are starting to increase heavily as a direct result of their posting. In the past, they've used the Liberal board's lower numbers to trash us for not being as interesting, when, in fact, the CON board must be pretty boring if they are always choosing to be HERE instead.
Like I said, I've decided that I'd like my visits here to be pleasant, so I'm just going to stop subjecting myself to their cesspools of attacks. They've proven their posts aren't worth wasting time reading, so I'm just going to stop and will feel much better as a result of stopping. 
Your not you're. I hope you're not an MT. nm
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They're children, though. They're not
adults. Mom and Dad need to know these things even if only to possibly prevent problems later.
You're welcome.
If I find anything, I'll be sure to post it, but I doubt he's going to be saying much. I think he understandably wants to distance himself as far away from this administration as he can.
I wish he would run for President. I'd very proudly vote for him in a heartbeat! I'd finally be able to vote for the best candidate instead of the least worst one.
I agree with you, and I admire and respect him very much.
So I take it you're on your
so you don't mind your grandchildren paying their fair share, right?
Bush Tax Cuts = Tax Shifts
UFE Report: Tax Burden Shifting off Wealthy onto Everyone Else
$197 Billion in Tax Cuts to Top 1% of US Taxpayers as Big as States’ Budget Shortfalls of $200 Billion
BOSTON — A new report, entitled “Shifty Tax Cuts: How They Move the Tax Burden off the Rich and onto Everyone Else,” from United for a Fair Economy (UFE) indicates that between 2002 and 2004, the Bush tax cuts to the top 1% of US income earners redirected billions of dollars in revenue that could have eliminated virtually all of the budget shortfalls in the states.
“Congress had the option to send aid to the states to prevent $200 billion worth of service cuts and regressive tax increases,” said Chris Hartman, UFE’s research director. “Instead, they gave tax breaks totaling roughly the same amount to multi-millionaires and the rest of the top 1%.”
The report identifies five main areas of shifting tax burden:
FEDERAL TO STATE — a 15% shift in tax burden between 2000 and 2003
PROGRESSIVE TO REGRESSIVE — at the federal level, a 17% decline in the share of revenue from progressive taxes and a 135% increase in the share of revenue from regressive taxes since 1962
WEALTH TO WORK — A tax cut on unearned income — such as inheritance or investment — of between 31% and 79%, but a tax hike on work income of 25% since 1980
CORPORATIONS TO INDIVIDUALS — a 67% drop in the share of federal revenues contributed by corporations and a 17% rise in individuals’ share
CURRENT TAXPAYERS TO FUTURE GENERATIONS — record deficits that shift the tax burden to our children and grandchildren
“When President Bush and Congress trumpet, ‘Here’s a tax cut', we say, ‘Taxpayer beware!’ said Chuck Collins, United for a Fair Economy co-founder. “Unless you are super-rich, it’s a tax SHIFT, not a cut. Non-wealthy taxpayers will pay for these tax cuts with increased state and local taxes or cuts in public services.”
“Between 2002 and 2004, a full $197 billion in new tax breaks went to the top 1% of American taxpayers,” Hartman commented. “This is money that has disappeared into the pockets of the very wealthy, making it unavailable to solve ongoing budget crises at the state and local levels.”
“I got a rebate check last summer for $400,” said Collins. “Then my eight-year-old’s public school asked me to contribute money to replace worn-out chairs for the students. At the same time, I found out they laid off the librarian because of budget cuts. What good is a $400 tax cut when parents have to cough up additional money for chairs and books or else see their children go without?”
The report concludes that the total federal, state and local tax burden has become increasingly the responsibility of middle-and low-income families in recent decades, and that revenues being generated by taxes are not sufficient to pay for existing public services. Work in particular is being taxed at a higher rate than investment. “I do a lot of work in predominantly Latino areas of Boston,” said UFE Education Specialist Gloribell Mota. “Residents there are the working poor — they have jobs and pay taxes — yet are getting pennies in tax cuts and seeing health care services they depend on slashed.”
“The Bush administration has followed a strategy of starving public services by pulling tax money away from education and housing and giving it away to multi-millionaires,” said Karen Kraut, UFE’s State Tax Partnership director. “States are suffering as a result, and people are going without essential services in order to fund the lifestyles of the rich.”
The report calls for tax reforms to improve the fairness of tax distribution and ensure adequate revenues. Concerned Americans are urged to pass resolutions in their cities and towns to stop the tax cuts and restore local services that have been affected, to call and write their congressional representatives to take action to stop the cuts, and to sign the Tax Fairness Pledge at www.ResponsibleWealth.org/taxpledge.
The co-authors of the report are Chuck Collins, UFE Co-founder; Chris Hartman, UFE Research Director; Karen Kraut, Director of UFE’s State Tax Partnerships; and Gloribell Mota, UFE Education Specialist.
United for a Fair Economy is an independent national non-profit that raises awareness of growing economic inequality.
You're not getting it
if the Attorney POCKETS most of the winnings how are they any better than the greedy corporations? Since you think one is more morally ethical than the other eventhough they may both be doing THE SAME EXACT THING....then the debate has ended as far as I'm concerned.
I never said don't come over there, you're the one
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You're welcome.
Have a great day.
You're welcome.
I didn't know it existed, either, but I think it's a really great site and wanted to pass it on. Some of these guys have said they're afraid to speak the truth and feel they're taking a chance by doing so.
You're welcome, gt.
You're welcome and you're right.
You're right.
It's clear the ONLY people who have true freedom of speech and freedom of thought in this country are Bush disciples. In addition, they have the freedom to lie to the rest of America.
Don't despair. It won't be long before a Pat Robertsonesque appointee thug of Bush will be seizing my computer, bugging my phone and knocking at my door, ready to lock me up simply because I express my distaste for a President who is incapable of telling the truth to ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, as he wraps himself in the Holy Bible and American Flag. His enemies aren't *terrorists.* If they were, I wouldn't be able to get on a plane now with a knife again.
His enemies are Americans who have the audacity to pay attention, think freely and voice their opinions.
My freedom of speech, free thought, expression, religion, ETC. is about to come to a screeching halt very soon.
You'd better hope you continue to obey the master, remain in step and NEVER stray from the flock. Otherwise, the next freedom-ending screech I hear could be YOURS.
Yes, you're right; I'm sure
their eye on me as well! What I find most pitiful is YOUR lack of outrage. Too much Kool-Aid, I guess. What will it take before you see what **King George** has done and continues to do to this country?
Huh? You're not going to believe this.
Or maybe you will...but for me it falls into the category of WHAT THE???????!!!!!!!!
Labored logic
Democrats have been buzzing about comments made by state Sen. Nancy Schaefer (R-Turnerville) at a recent eggs-and-issues breakfast in Hart County. We quote from the Hartwell Sun newspaper: Commenting on illegal immigration, Schaefer said 50 million abortions have been performed in this country, causing a shortage of cheap American labor. 'We could have used those people,' she said.
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/insider/stories/030606.html
You're welcome. sm
I wholeheartedly agree that Lurker's post went straight to the heart of how I feel on so many levels and it took time to put it together.
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You're welcome!
You're welcome. :-) (NM)
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You're right...sm
War was used for lack of a better term - genocide. One day is a long time when you fear for your life and are watching other's die. Nothing made me more upset with Clinton than watching Hotel Rwanda. Quite frankly though, that is an ugly part of history. Darfur is here and now. What do we do, give the UN and Bush a pass?
I know you're not...sm
I said those interested.
But you're not sorry at all..
Call me condescending, call the majority of liberals on this board shallow, immoral, without firm foundations and that's just part of your comments. What is the purpose of this name-calling? Does it make you feel better about yourself? What do you hope to accomplish? This is the liberal board and I don't believe this board was provided as a venue for you to vent your condemnation of liberal folks. Why do you and others do it? Where is there one iota of value in your posting other than a rant against liberals and their many many failings.
you're right
There is free speech and tolerance of extreme behavior in our nation, but here there is also a missing element of having enough social training to not persist in bothering people who do not wish to be associated with you. In real life, this would be embarassing, but with the anonimity of the internet, people let their real selves emerge without fear of consequences. Shunning has alway worked in the past.
You're right I don't.
I do not appreciate your views. I believe them to be jaded.
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