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This is really funny, mostly because the left is whining about ...

Posted By: Yeppers on 2005-08-28
In Reply to: guns, fear, what a post, blah - gt

some of the illegals might be terrorists so we have to stop it all now and you are certainly in a state that has it's share of illegals but none of them are terrorists now.  My head is spinning.  You guys need to get your stories straight.  No one knows where the terrorists will come and they won't care what your political leanings are or that you know judo or whatever you know and have a big dog.  They aren't going to ask you any questions, and if they did, you wouldn't be able to understand what they were saying.  There is no fear in being prepared.  But all the pansy butt left who think the terrorists can be reasoned with will get a real wakeup call.  And you will be doing what every other gun hating leftist does when they are attacked by someone with a gun.  Call a cop to come with his gun and save you.  Hypocrits. 


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Gee...they left out the Mayor of Detroit whining for money. What's up with that? sm
Detroit is just one of many with their hands out to the feds. Detroit has been a drain on the rest of Michigan for years. The best thing that can happen to Detroit is to cut it loose and float it up the St. Lawrence Seaway and then the rest of the state can get back to business...if there is any left that is.
I always find it funny how the left and right interpret the same things...(sm)
differently.

I saw the news programs today and yesterday this poster is talking about, and I can't quote you exactly what he said either. But she did tell you in general terms what he said. Obama also warned of how much this is going to cost us, in the trillions...but that it had to be done NOW. That seemed to be fear mongering to me too. Maybe not to you, but it did to me.


And yet, since she can't back it up quote something to your satisfaction, you have to say she's spewing garbage?


I always thought you were fairer than that, JTBB, and more intelligent than resorting to this. I guess you aren't, though.


Yeah, real weird. The left would say she was crappy if if she was funny...
Not surprising.

By the way, maybe she wasn't funny because SNL gave her a crappy script.


Ever think of it that way? They hate her too, ya know....
really, what am i whining about?
if it was about anything it would be about how unbelievably CHILDISH you really are.
I may be everything you call me, but PHONEY is not one of them. I'm as real as they come, which is why I'm not afraid to stand up to your lame attempts at silencing me and anyone else who doesn't agree with your point of view. It's really pathetic that you want to cut down anyone else that doesn't agree with you. People are able to disagree, until someone like you steps in and can only start throwing insults out. if my opinion makes me "self righteous", so be it. but dont EVER call me phoney, it just shows that BS flows freely from your mouth
It's all so much hypocritical whining.
Gee, how much did we wish that people would just lay off a little and let Clinton's private matters stay private for the sake of his family and the nation as a whole.

But NOOOOO, that wouldn't do, would it? The avid glee in exposing his most painful and regrettable bad judgment was the talk of Bushtown, they just HAD to smear it in all our faces and stuff it down our throats ad nauseum - no mercy there, no letting up, no quarter. Vultures.

Now look how they act when people speculate about a former alcoholic and coke blower possibly returning to the habit/s during a time of extreme stress - which is not even a ridculous thing to contemplate, God knows we all know someone who has been caught in this trap. If this is the case it's unfortunate for him, but the point is, it really DOES vitally affect our nation if it's true.

I'm afraid the right handed away its right to credibility on calling for compassion for the personal dignity of the chief executive. You had a chance to show some when the matter DIDN'T affect our nation's security, and you simply blew it big time.

In any case I think it's safe to say that should Bush be tipping a few, he's going to get far better treatment from sympathetic Americans both Republican AND Democrat than his predecessor did for his particular indulgences.
You're the one who's whining.......
WAH! Get over your self-righteous, phoney self.
Nope, she's definitely whining...(sm)

Here's what I see.  SP gave all of what, 2 or 3 interviews on major networks other than Fox.  She fouled those up, not because she was bad at interviews, but because of a serious lack of knowledge.  She has yet to give an accurate description of the role of the VP, by the way (did she have 3 tries at that one?).  The only other time you saw SP on TV was either on Fox where they just sang Kumbaya or at a rally calling Obama a terrorist.  Keep in mind that at the time she was pretty much unknown, so if people wanted to form an opinion of her, she didn't give them much to work with.  If she wanted so desparately to show the country her *grit* then why didn't she do more interviews?  Oh, and by the way, all reporters bone up before big interviews, and to be quite honest the questions posed to SP looked like a 3rd grader quiz compared to the questions Biden dealt with.  Meanwhile, Obama not only showed up on Fox but did a 3 part special with O'Reilly.  Biden appeared on Fox as well.  In fact, they were both all over the place giving interviews, including the internet.  What would you have said about Obama if the only network he had shown up on was MSNBC?


The bottom line is, if she plans on being in national politics, she needs to be able to at least handle mainstream media.  If she can't do that (and it's painfully obvious she can't) then how in the world do you think she would be able to handle leaders of other countries, much less anything else?


Nope, she's definitely whining...(sm)

Here's what I see.  SP gave all of what, 2 or 3 interviews on major networks other than Fox.  She fouled those up, not because she was bad at interviews, but because of a serious lack of knowledge.  She has yet to give an accurate description of the role of the VP, by the way (did she have 3 tries at that one?).  The only other time you saw SP on TV was either on Fox where they just sang Kumbaya or at a rally calling Obama a terrorist.  Keep in mind that at the time she was pretty much unknown, so if people wanted to form an opinion of her, she didn't give them much to work with.  If she wanted so desparately to show the country her *grit* then why didn't she do more interviews?  Oh, and by the way, all reporters bone up before big interviews, and to be quite honest the questions posed to SP looked like a 3rd grader quiz compared to the questions Biden dealt with.  Meanwhile, Obama not only showed up on Fox but did a 3 part special with O'Reilly.  Biden appeared on Fox as well.  In fact, they were both all over the place giving interviews, including the internet.  What would you have said about Obama if the only network he had shown up on was MSNBC?


The bottom line is, if she plans on being in national politics, she needs to be able to at least handle mainstream media.  If she can't do that (and it's painfully obvious she can't) then how in the world do you think she would be able to handle leaders of other countries, much less anything else?


Ah, quit your whining, you're just a know-nothing
God help us, PK, this is the best response we can elicit. I can hear them already. I guess it's easier to just DENY, DENY, DENY and swiftboat than face the truth. Where,exactly, does the proverbial buck stop? javascript:editor_insertHTML('text','');
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I take back the whining remark. sm
I will replace it with pitiful.
Be a big girl and stop whining already
Yeah, I guess in your eyes gays and lesbians should just sit back and be content with being the second-class citizens you would like them to be.
At some point we do have to quit whining
and do something for ourselves.  Perpetual victimhood is not healthy.
Weren't you the one crying and whining

about how dare CA take away the rights they had given to gay people and how it shouldn't have been voted on and blah blah blah.  You even brought up women's right to vote and how about we overturn that....blah blah blah.  Now you want to take away the benefits that marriage has always had just because gay people want everything equal.  I do believe that you were one of the ones that said it wasn't fair for gays to have to settle for civil unions and how dare I suggest such a thing. 


Honestly....I'd agree to this just to shut you people up because I'm so sick to death of hearing about gay rights and poor gay people.....blah blah blah.  Once again....I guess the Bible thumpers that you hate so much will do the compromising and once again give up something of ours to make you happy.  Feel better now?


Then why are you whining...er...posting, if you have more important things to do....nm
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So you have a roof over your head and you're whining about your
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There is plenty of conservative activity there. Stop whining.

The simply fact is you were whining and crying about us being on your board sm
when you are almost just as often on ours.  Is that a hard concept to get through your noggin or do I need to hire a sky writer?
Ridiculous post. Quit your whining, big babies
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you mean left wing....it's a left wing ding website on the messiah....the right wouldn't bothe

already heard this - wasn't funny then, not funny now!
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No need. I can't think of who else left besides Nan before. sm
That's why I didn't name their name. Either way, my point was they'll be back.
Actually what the left
expects and the right should too is not to be lied to on a continual basis, to have our constitution upheld. We didnt go into this war to spread democracy we went because this administration lied. WMD remember? THATS why we went into Iraq, that and the fact that due to republican spin fully half of Americans believed Saddam did 09/11. and meanwhile the real perp of 09/11 runs free. If Iraq had no oil, we never would have gone in there. Sadly, Mr bush has made one huge mess that is costing us billions and killing our soldiers. Yeah a whole lot of America is furious and upset and we have good reason to be.
Look what the left does..

maybe this was posted before but it just goes to show how biased the media is and what liars they really are. the quote in red was the actual quote. Look how the media decided to butcher it.


The media is trying REALLY hard to paint Sarah Palin into an evil religious zealot. The AP is willing to break the typically utilized laws of printing the English language to do it.


According to the AP, Sarah Palin said this about the troops while at church:


“Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God,"


According to real life, Sarah Palin said this about the troops while at church (with the AP’s selective quoting underlined):


“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God,”


The AP quote means “Iraq is a mission from God.”


The actual quote means “We pray Iraq is a mission from God.”


The headline is even more misleading.


Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'


The AP not only doesn't mention the previous sentence, or the first part of the sentence they quote, they also essentially ignore the meaning of the very next sentence as well. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."


This is a statement of humble reflection from Palin. To translate into terms the media might understand, its "I hope we're doing the right thing."


This story is bad enough that the AP really should issue a correction on it, if not a full retraction. There's no story unless you butcher the quote. It's based on half (or a quarter) of a quote, mentally ignoring the previous and following sentences, and even presenting the trimmed quote as the start of a sentence --forcing them to capitalize a word that actually appeared in the middle of the sentence.


Really bad.


you left off

spinning his wedding ring.  And everyone knows what a married man is thinking when he does that . . .


 


If you have next to no $ left now
you must be one of the ones that the rest of us will be supporting with our tax money. 
I will if you put the left one in.

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Left behind
I am just wondering if either of you read Tim LeHaye's "Left Behind" series. It is fictional but deals with the rapture and those left behind. I had read it many years ago but was just thinking the other day how scary it is that I find so many similarities between the books and our current situation and my feelings about what we as a country may be facing after this election. Part of it also deals with a "one-world" religion, another thought I find scary. Have you read it?
She is the only one left on there with
decency and common sense! She is definitely no twit and there is nothing to hate about her. Just my opinion of course, and I feel like all the others are twits.
Does anyone have anything left in their

those to the far left seem to think
we are to be all-tolerant of them and their lunatic ideas, but the tolerance doesn't work the other direction. Don't worry, those who counted on Obama for the gay/lesbian legislation -- i'm sure he'll come through for you before its all over.
Yes, I know someone who left the
country because Bush was reelected.  So, in answer to your obnoxious question, YES!
I'm about as far left as you can get ....
and Dubya didn't have anything to do with prompting the 9/11 attacks.  He just had the bad fortune to be the sitting president at the time.  Those attacks were years in the making.  Years.  It's foolish to blame any one president or any one administration for it. 
Is this what the left always does when they have no
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Oh, come on! Both can be mean, but the left can
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What will they do when there's no one left to pay
This, of course, is the major flaw in all socialist dreams and schemes. Sooner or later, the camel collapses under the weight of hauling everyone else's load. And my hump is already getting rubbed raw.
Here is one, but it's partisan left! sm

Neighbors for Peace to "Raise the Bar" for Democratic Candidates


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


St. Paul, MN – June 17, 2003 – When national Democratic leaders visit St. Paul next week, Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace and other Minnesota organizations will be on the scene to question presidential candidates, raising the electoral bar for peace, justice, and environmental issues.


The Association of State Democratic Chairs and the Democratic National Committee will convene this weekend at the Radisson Riverfront Hotel at 11 East Kellogg Boulevard in St. Paul. Gearing up for the 2004 presidential elections, Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace will be outside the hotel on Friday, June 20, from 2:30 to 5:30 p.m. to invite the candidates to join concerned Minnesota Democrats in dialogue about critical issues.


"People are leaving the Democratic party in droves, because in recent elections the candidates have become so centrist that they are almost indistinguishable from the Republicans," comments Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace co-founder, Anne Benson. "We want to see the Democratic party return to its progressive roots—to stand up for working people and poor people, and to fight against the regressive domestic and foreign policies of the Bush administration."


The neighbors from the Merriam Park area of St. Paul hold that in recent elections, Democratic candidates have lost their chance to take office because they've neglected the concerns of their own voters.


"It has always been said, 'There are more Democrats than Republicans; we just need to get out the vote,'" states member, Steve Schwarz. "We, however, need a reason to get out the vote. Many Democrats have felt alienated and misrepresented by the party and have looked instead to other alternatives. We believe in the principles that made the Democratic party what it was and still can be today. Remember, we in Minnesota have supported a long line of Democratic politicians who voted on principle and not on predictions of popularity. We expect our candidates to make peace and justice issues a priority."


Adds Benson, "We're encouraging candidates to ask themselves the hard questions: Where are the weapons of mass destruction? Was I misled by the administration when I voted for the War Powers Resolution? How do we get out of this quagmire in Iraq? Does the PATRIOT Act infringe on too many civil liberties?"


Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace has invited all Democratic candidates to meet with them after their sessions conclude on Friday to answer a series of fourteen questions regarding issues of pre-emptive war, international relations, arms development, military spending, V.A. benefits, U.S. economy, social programs, employment, globalization, education, health care, civil liberties, terrorism, and environmental policy. They invite all Minnesotans with these concerns to join them in St. Paul on Friday in addressing the candidates.


"We're not endorsing a particular candidate," group member, Jeanne Schnitzen, notes. "We're giving them all a chance to look us in the eye and answer to the issues we vote for. If they're really in this race to turn the tides, we'll make sure they get that chance. I want to believe there is a Democratic candidate who is capable of sowing the seeds of change."


So much for the tolerance of the left. nm

Looks like you left your *objectivity*

on the Conservative Board.   Might be time for you to return.


Left leaning.

I am well aware that I am on a *left leaning* board; however, how can you ever possibly gain a true picture of real facts if you only visit left leaning sites?  It isn't possible. I don't do it. In fact, on the other political boards I post on, some left and some right, Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, News Max, Fox, are not used as sources. 


You misunderstand me about the Constitution and Iraq. 


The left really hates this guy
This is so laughable that with all that's going on the world the left stoops to National Enquirer style reporting. Get a life and a clue.
Why do you think everyone not for Bush is left?sm
I guess compared to those over on the conservative board, I am a little left. I was a registered Republican up until 4 years ago. Because their policies and actions conflict with my beliefs, I can no longer support the party. There are many many more just like me.
I think there is still dispute over even when they left sm
and why planes were allowed to come into US airspace to pick them up when all other aircraft were grounded. Also, why they were not questioned by FBI, etc.

Also, researchers requesting information from the FBI about their disposition with Osama, and were told that Osama is wanted by the FBI, but not for 911. So my question would be, well then who is?
Too bad folks, it's not just the left...sm
Like Lurker said, the gig is up! People are pushing for change in Iraq. Personally, I would have rather seen us release the full fury on terrorist who are invading that country and clean it up before leaving. However, if our strategy is to keep peddling around like street police then something has to give. We have our own country to fix and too much attention has been given to Iraq in the past 3 years.

On to the economy for a sec. Republicans have been boasting on how good the economy is doing, but guess which group is reaping the benefits. You guessed it - the rich. So sorry if the working man, you know those of us who punch the clock, are not feeling so thankful for the Dow and Nasdaq earnings. What's funny is that the *beltway boys* as AG calls them can not seem to figure out why 50% of Americans tend to feel the economy is not so hot.
What is typical of the left?
It kind of got lost in the point you were trying to make, something about Lurker not answering your question the way you wanted her to...or somethin' like that.
What I want to know is who left you in charge?
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Posters like this need to be left alone
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Would that be left or right bias?
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The left does it all the time.
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No, not at all...it started on the far left rag...
the dailykos. That is where it broke. And then the rest of the far left picked it up and ran with it.

I was the first to congratulate Obama on his renouncing of the behavior. But even with him saying that, his supporters continue the salvos at Palin's family. Big time Dem pundits on TV still taking shots at her. Blogs still taking shots at her. Posters on this board still taking shots at her. Now you take people who are not committed yet, they see this happening, and you are left with only two conclusions...either Barack was very serious and meant what he said (which I believe) and his followers and pundits and the media are still going to attack regardless; or that he just made that statement to take the political high road while all the time in the background he is saying "sic her." It has to be one of the two...but either way, if his supporters and big Dem pundits continue the attack it reflects badly on his candidacy. I realize that he cannot control what people do...but one would think they would heed what he says (they claim to believe everything he says) and just lay off...but, to each his own.
Has the left ever put "country first"?
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Left field is right!
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