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You are free to speech 'til the cows come home.

Posted By: Nobody takes your fanaticism seriously. Go for it. on 2008-08-26
In Reply to: thank you for the ringing endorsement for freedom of speech.... - sam

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I'm sure we could do this 'til the cows come home.
I brought this into the discussion in the context of discrediting worn-out, bankrupt Ayers slurs and Obama hate speech, designed to distract from critical national campaign issues and ignite culture wars that divide us along lines of race, ethnicity, class and patriotism. Now that you have your list, you might pull it out sometime if you ever encounter worn out, bankrupt McCain hate speech. You just might have time to expand your list, 'cause you'll be waiting 'till the cows come home on that one.

My list will be much more useful. In the current acidic enviroment, it will be used many, many times in one day. It is being expanded also as we speak. Here's a few I over looked:
1. 1. Ken Adelman, Assistant to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, now member of Defense Policy Board, member of the think tank on Project for the New American Century (Cheney/Rumsfeld, Wolfewitz neocon vision, Deputy Ambassador fo the United Nations, Director of US Arms Control and Disarmament under Reagan, Committee on the Present Danger, Office of Economic Opportunity under Ford.
2. Michael Smercornish, talk show host, substituted for Bill O'Reilly, Glen Beck and Chris Matthews.

Haven't had time to expand the 70 admirals and generals but am working on. In the meantime, you could research those 200 McCain lays claim to while you are waiting for Obama supporters to give you your opening.
Look, we can argue about this until the cows come home
I'm not talking about the small businesses who GROSS maybe $250,000 or even $500,000, it's what they get to keep.  I speak of big businesses....like your oil companies......they're pocketing billions with the help of their oil buds in the White House.  If you're in favor of that more power to you.  I am NOT.  It's high time these greedy guts pay their fair share.  Research and see how many of the super wealthy don't pay ANY tax.
I will post til the cows come home
I don't care how many days til the election. I don't care if its election day. I don't even care if McCain wins. I will keep posting the truth about Obama until he is exposed for the fraud he is. BTW, I've been posting all along this isn't anything I started just a few days before the election. If someone out there reads my posts and realize that people are trying to con them into voting for a man who is a liar and will possibly put us into the third world war because he's changing the constituion and buying his way in, then I am satisfied. The good thing is people are waking up. If he wins I will continue to post whenever the truth about him is exposed. It's a disgrace to our country that so many will follow him and not research. I as many others would never vote for a person of Obama's questionable character. I'm not going to be one like one of the haulocaust victims that stand idly by while our country is taken over. I will stand up for my rights. I served in the Army and I deserve the right to live in a free country! So go ahead and rebuttle if you want. I want the truth known and the American people have the right to know the truth!
Kaydie, the cows just came home.n/m
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"kill him" speech is not acceptable free speech - it is against the law - nm
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Free speech is alive and well, as is free will...

people can take anything out of context and do with it what they want; it still doesn't make it a McCain/Palin issue.


I saw Bush's welcome home speech.
Proud of the Texas community welcoming home Bush. If I did not like the area I lived in, I would have moved to Texas. Do not really like the seasons and climate in Texas, but sure love the people there. Just an incredible speech. He sure is family oriented. Wish him the best and cannot wait to read his book. He kept us safe. Did you hear China did not like Obama's speech yesterday?
Do you believe in free speech?
If so, please allow me mine.
This man has NEVER believe in free speech
He has made no secret of his belief that our constitution is NOT a static document, which it is. He believes it should be a "living" document, so he can make up things as he goes along.

This guy is so uptight and immature that he continually makes comments about Hannity and O'Reilly and Limbaugh. What rock did he crawl out from under? Too bad when he decided to come back to this country he didn't learn that FREE SPEECH mean just that, FREE SPEECH!!

Of course, he doesn't believe in our constitution anyway, so it shouldn't be a surprise.

Anyone in his position who obsesses over a few conservative talk heads isn't mature at all but this guy is so messed up, he actually believes he has the right to censor talk show hosts just 'cause he doesn't like them...... now that is a dangerous dictator!!!
The issue is not free speech....
the issue is whether this guy was doing his job. He's a geography teacher for crying out loud. His remarks had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the job he was hired to do and that's teach geography. The excuse that he was teaching *human geography* is the most hilarious pitiful excuse I've ever heard. This guy should be fired for unprofessionalism and not performing the duties he was hired to do. If he wants to be a political activist so be it, but do it in your off time or quit your public education job and do it. This goes for anybody whether your conservative, liberal, or independent.

I think a new ammendment should be made to get teachers back to teaching the basics instead of trying in indoctrinate kids to think the way they do, but I doubt that will happen any time soon.

Well about the walkout---I doubt the kids did it for political reasons, they did it to get out of class and to get some attention.


So your saying Ann's not entitled to her free speech
but you are entitled to yours? The 9/11 widows can say anything, but Ann better shut up?


The double standards rule the day here.

Ann has her opinions but at least she is not saying America is guilty of genocide.
Free speech, you rock!
You sound like a very open-minded, understanding person. Thanks for your insight!
So, do all lefties not believe in free speech then?
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Free speech my dear liberal

free speech.  Works both ways even if you don't like it.


A little factoid for you.  Pat Robertson is not on the White House staff, so Bush has absolutely no place in condeming it.


Lying through their teeth is not free speech and also
inciting riots is against the law. What is illegal is that they call themselves the news. They might be able to stay on air but with the removal of the word "news." Oh this is true. I'm privvy to some interesing facts.
Free speech baby! Don't like it, don't watch it. nm
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Keep in mind the liberals don't want free speech
They just want to hear THEMSELVES. They actually believe only they have something to say that anyone would want to hear.
You're right......free speech is PRICELESS!!
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Those things are citizens exercising free speech,
The world they have been living in under the Patriot Act has pushed them into dark corners underground. They are the ones who ended up on the wrong side of that line in the and Bush drew after 911 when he said, "you are either for us or against us."

They all work, just like you and me, but sacrifice greatly for their activism. If you think the coverage you are getting about who they are, what they are saying or where they come from is fair, you are the one who is living on another planet. You skipped the part about police sweeping up reporters and bystanders, beating them up while hosing them down and dragging them away.

Take a look back into history some 30-40 years ago. These same "things" were the guys who marched and protested on behalf of civil rights for blacks and women and against the last wrong war were had. Yesterday's "things, today's authors, senators, congressmen, journalists, etc.

You must have been born AFTER their struggles bore fruit. Otherwise, you would not be so glib and would have no need to ask such inane questions.
Who put the libs on this board in charge of free speech?
Joe has the right of free speech too. He asked a simple question, which Obama freely answered outlining socialism 101, and what did Joe get for that? A background check! And you can hail free speech and be okay with that in the same breath? Your hypocrisy is showing...and showing...and showing.

And you keep trying, and unsucessfully, to deflect from the true point. Understandably, because your focus is the big "O", the truthgiver, the one who will save the world. LOL. Free speech indeed. You don't believe in free speech unless it benefits you and the big "O."

Nothing in my post said anything about free speech. It just tried (and in vain I understand)...to stay on point...Obama's ANSWER.
Don't forget about free broadband, free gas, free healthcare, hey they are "rights" now YIP
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14 days 'til the US has a respectable
                          
I didn't even know he existed 'til a few weeks ago,
mentioned him. Still know little to nothing about him, and wouldn't recognize him if he were standing 3 feet away from me. Not that that's a bad thing, or anything, but I would take that to mean that his message isn't being heard, and as a result, it would seem rather fruitless to waste a vote on him. The other 2 candidates are going to be running full-tilt, right down to the wire, and EACH of them is going to need every vote they can get in order to win without another Florida-esque hanging-chad fiasco like before.
Go home Obama! Go home McCain!
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Life doesn't begin 'til the cord it cut and the
Until then, it's just a fetus/piece of tissue/etc., and has no rights.
I'm a woman, and supported Hillary 'til I heard Obama
I don't pick a candidate by their gender, their color, their name, their religion, or anything else. I pick a candidate by their intelligence, ability to lead, and one whom the rest of the world will be more likely to listen & relate to. After the last 4 years, I've watched big companies get TAX BREAKS and INCENTIVES for shipping our work overseas. I work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, and I'm close to needing section-8 housing and food stamps because my pay won't get me much in this country, anymore. Ever notice that just about EVERYTHING you buy these days is made in China? Yet try and find those same products made in the USA. Impossible. So no, I want a candidate that I can look up to and be proud of, not one like Dubya, who's made me embarrased to be an American for the past 8 years.
Where is the line for free college, free healthcare...
mortgage paid for, free gas and ability to sit on my rear and let everyone else take care of me? Wow, now I see the light...this prez elect will be great!!
So the Republicans can fillibuster until the cows

come home and prevent a vote on the legislation in front of the Senate, thus preventing work from getting done?


And then it's blamed on the Democrats?????


So the Republicans can fillibuster until the cows

come home and prevent a vote on the legislation in front of the Senate, thus preventing work from getting done?


And then it's blamed on the Democrats because they "have the majority"?????


chickens and doves and cows etc....
I know what's going on.
I am a vegetarian!
Therefore!
I agree. cow poop is made by cows.
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Totally digging the food safety overhaul - no more downed cows. Good job Obama! sm

I didn't vote for Obama, I was one of those on the fencers.  But I must say one thing I am impressed with so far is his complete overhaul of the US food safety system and the new rule of no downed cows being put into our food system.


Some things should just be common sense, and they weren't being implemented.  Good job Obama!


Go home
Now, isn't it you, AG, who whine everytime someone you think is a liberal, posts on your board? Yet, here you are posting on the liberal board, where you clearly don't belong. Hmm, must be that conservative double standard again. Wow!

Anyway, girls shouldn't be posting on a board for grownups.
Thanks for the welcome home.
My mom (god rest her soul) would be absolutely thrilled I've come back to "the real world". She would then probably say to me "Bout time you got off those drugs", and we would both have a good laugh.

I have mixed feelings about Hannity. He's okay sometimes and other times I think he's condescending and smug. In all fairness to him I also think that way about Alan Colmes, Keith Obermann, Rush Limbaugh, and all the other "extreme" media people. I do understand what you mean when you asked if I was Hannitized. I do like his radio show when I get a chance to listen to him. (I just wish he'd get a new theme song and not that woman who is screaming (got to cover my ears when she belts out "Let Freedom Ring". I understand her message and the words, but if she could just sing them a bit softer. :-) That's neat you met him? What was he like. He seems like a nice person in real life.

DH people will say means darling husband. In my case it means Dam% husband. Ha ha
I think they should all go home
and let Wall Street bail themselves out.
This article sure hit home.

I remember feeling the very same way that Ted Rall felt, thinking the very same things, and realizing that if I'm no genius and can figure this out, why can't Bush? 


And I agree that the last paragraph IS good!!!  But all they do is talk.  None of them have the guts to go anywhere near the Sunni Triangle.  They're nothing but hot air, which is good for them, because they're going to need all the hot air they can get.


I can't wait until, say, February.  If you think it's tough now just filling the car tank, what's it going to be like for those with oil heating?  I wonder how easy it is to constantly chant the mantra "I love Bush" (or whatever they've been programmed to chant) when your teeth are chattering from the freezing cold.  And I wonder how many, once they regain the consciousness they lost while opening their heating bills, will still think Bush is so great. 


That is his vacation home
Or should I say his $10 million retreat in New Hampshire. His legal residence is a big colonial in Massachusetts. You know, the one where he had the illegal immigrants doing his lawn work. I actually voted for McCain today just so I could vote against this guy.
Oh please let him go home in his truck....I'd
rather do it myself!!  LOL.
I think that the democrats need to go home...sm
and let the republicans sort it out with their president.  Hurt feelings are not a reason to vote for or against something that is good for the country because you are trying to make a point.  What a bunch of middle-aged/elderly/men crybabies.  I hope that the president lays it on the line to those that voted against his plan. 
I think the Republicans should go home...
and let the Democrats, who have the majority anyway, put their money where their mouth is and pass it. Put their country first instead of their political futures. Take a chance. They have it in their power to pass it. The Republicans can't. They don't have enough votes, even if they wanted to.
And the first one to head home should be

so what do you use to heat your home
Just curious.  We're putting in Geothermal.  It's about $20K to put it in, but I think it'll be worth it in the long run.
I have my gun for home protection..
While I hope that I never have to use it, there is no more unmistakable sound than loading that shotgun!
The point that really hit home with me..sm
was that by voting for Obama we are, in God's eyes, an accessory to murder. I have always been against abortion, always will be, but the gravity of the situation never really struck home with me. Of course, this pales in comparison to the fact that innocent babies are being murdered each and every day.

Abortion will never be done away with, but at least we don't have to play a part in making it legal. Like you said...what's next? Our elderly who are seen by some as a burden on the Medicare system? How about the mentally ill who may never be cured of their illness? Would forced abortion become law to control the population? What about accident victims who have desirable blood and tissue types for organ transplant? Will they be killed or allowed to die in order that someone else might live? Say these ideas are far fetched, but who is to say what might come about next once the way is made clear for abortions on demand to be legal?
Do you only have 1 channel in your home?
Do you live out in the sticks? Nothing but just the local channels? Why cant you change the channel that you have or just turn the frik… television off. If I don’t like a program off it goes. So simple.
Home of Bob Corker...(sm)
Chatt.  Yeah -- that would be our former mayor who did that number on Harold Ford --- *call me Harold.*  From what I understand the actress that did that now can't get a job.  I hope Harold runs again, but I doubt he can get elected.  He's too much like Obama for TN.
north to home, are you seeing this
somebody else is using the E word!
When a soldier comes home...

Paste this link or follow the link at the bottom of the post.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdTUcZLSXw


charity begins at home
Im wondering, with Bush's millions, has he given to the Iraq rebuilding?  My mom always taught me, charity begins at home..So home first, then American states.  Give to Bush's immoral war?  I dont know, gonna have to research my soul on that one..
They're coming home to

Why not gt the bog of ugliness is where you feel most at home

stick your hateful nose in the air.  You  start all kinds of crap then run away.   Typical.  Don't call people a racist and then expect them to not to respond.