Programs the conservatives make a life long mission
Posted By: To slash and burn to fund wars. nm on 2008-08-26
In Reply to: fend for themselves? Where do you get that? - sam
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Is that your mission in life? To try to prove that
Rather sad, really.
First off...Obama would make sure that there was a mission...sm
if he had to put soldier's in harms way...not like Bush or McCain that attacked Iraq aimlessly without thinking of the consequences or a way to end the war. We've lost more lives (not to mention billions of dollars) in Iraq than we did on 9/11 and we still are.
Why wouldn't Obama want to protect the country and family that he loves...that makes no sense.
He has ran a very well organized campaign which gives us a good indication on how he will run this country - with great leadership and INTELLIGENCE -for once!
God d*mn America is ok then? As long as you have good church programs? (nm)
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My mother, a life-long republican, used to be...sm
a church secretary in a small town and told me that the people who actually tithed according to their income were the poorest in town. Very few of the rich or well off did. I think it is a percentage you are supposed to give if you are a member of the church. It really used to upset her. You can imagine what a church secretary earned in the 1950s, yet after feeding us kids and paying the rent as a single parent, she always managed to support God's work in the church and volunteer her time if she couldn't give money. She actually turned me into a democrat because I felt that all the things she taught me were most like what the democrats stand for.
Lets make a bet on how long it takes dems to turn
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Is this mission impossible...
Every time I decide to give this site another chance I find posts like this....is this mission impossible and are there spies among us?? ha ha
The majority of them truly believe in their mission.
I'm simply not in a position to judge all that stuff. There's far more going on behind the scenes than we know. That's not to give Bush (or any politician, for that matter) a free pass.
The big threat approaching is Israel & Iraq. A war there is inevitable (& soon), and they're a huge ally of ours. The not only deserve our help, but will likely need it.
Mission Statement
The GOP Mission Statement!
GOP Rep: "Our Goal Is To Bring Down Approval Numbers" For Democrats
'GOP Rep. Patrick McHenry, a key player in helping craft the Republican message, has offered an unusually blunt description of the Republican strategy right now.
"We will lose on legislation. But we will win the message war every day, and every week, until November 2010," said Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., an outspoken conservative who has participated on the GOP message teams. "Our goal is to bring down approval numbers for [Speaker Nancy] Pelosi and for House Democrats. That will take repetition. This is a marathon, not a sprint." ' -Huffington Post
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/house-republicans/gop-rep-our-goal-is-to-bring-down-approval-numbers-for-dems/
You see the Republicans are always up to something. Too bad it is usually no good for the American people.
Nope, not mission impossible, not spy, not anything like that...
just the drive-by LINO poster using different monikers to attack me personally to make it appear that there are more on the board who want to make personal attacks than just the one...safety in numbers, I suppose, even though they are pseudonumbers. The poster comes and goes, attacks and runs, attacks and runs...it is what it is. If liberals are into that, fine. One poster just comes on and does post after post after juvenile Bush-bashing post. Is that really what you guys are about? Flies in the face of the way liberals describe themselves. I said I wanted to understand, and understand I do...thank all of you...so much.
A mission accomplished for bin Laden.
In a 1998 interview, Osama bin Laden — the terrorist organizer of 9/11 who still roams free — listed as one of his many grievances against the U.S. that Americans “have stolen $36 trillion from Muslims” by purchasing oil from Persian Gulf countries at low prices. The real price of a barrel of oil should be $144, bin Laden demanded.
Ten years ago today, the price of a barrel of oil was just $11. Heading into this holiday weekend, the price of a barrel of oil rested at $144 — a thirteen-fold increase.
One month after 9/11, the New York Times wrote of possible “nightmare” scenarios that would deliver bin Laden’s goal. Neela Banerjee warned that among the “misguided decisions” that would put oil supplies at risk would be “that the United States attacks Iraq.” The Times included this quote in its story:
“If bin Laden takes over and becomes king of Saudi Arabia, he’d turn off the tap,” said Roger Diwan, a managing director of the Petroleum Finance Company, a consulting firm in Washington. “He said at one point that he wants oil to be $144 a barrel” — about six times what it sells for now.
Bin Laden didn’t have to become king of Saudi Arabia to achieve his goal; in fact, Bush’s policies delivered it for him. The Bush administration’s catastrophic decision to invade Iraq, sink the nation into debt to pay for that war, and consequently, weaken the dollar have all caused oil prices to soar astronomically.
Testifying before the House Foreign Affairs Committee last May, Anne Korin, the co-director of the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security, reminded Congress about bin Laden’s goal:
[A]bout ten years ago, Osama bin Laden stated that his target price for oil is $144 a barrel and that the American people, who allegedly robbed the Muslim people of their oil, owe each Muslim man, woman, and child $30,000 in back payments. At the time, $144 a barrel seemed farfetched to most. […]
I would like to impress upon this Committee that $144 a barrel oil will be perceived as a victory for the Jihadist movement and a reaffirmation that the economic warfare component of its campaign against the West is a resounding success. There is no need to elaborate on the implications of such a victory in terms of loss of U.S. prestige and our ability to prevail in the Long War of the 21st century.
Obama did not plan the mission.
He only signed off on it after it had been planned and then vouched for by a whole lot of other people. The CEO of a car company does not design a car or put together a sales campaign. He only gives the go-ahead after others have figured out what to do, then takes credit for it.
The only thing this guy has ever made in his life is reservations.
Inciting hatred is SP's special mission.
this endeavor. The more she does it, the lower those number falls. McCain is back in double-digit deficit territory again.
He also said that some of programs...
need to be stripped and he is well aware of that. Don't forget, he didn't write this all by his lonesome - it was written in the House. He does not want it ditched altogether for fear of the consequences of starting from scratch - WE DON'T HAVE TIME. BUT, the pubs could give a rats about those of us in limbo - they'd rather engage in partisan infighting. If the morons would quit fighting - get to work and strip the garbage - present us with a job creation only bill - we'd be in business. But, cooperation is impossible - as evidenced by the hate posted all over this board.
You'll be waiting a long, long time, then, cuz she's going to do
cut what federal programs??
So the Federal govt is gonna cut back in entitlement programs to fund the rebuilding of NO? Not gonna cease his tax cuts for the rich, just gonna cut back on programs for.....the disadvantaged, of course, the ones whose voices will not be heard..Whose fault was NO? Bush and his administration. I say Bush should donate some of his millions to the rebuilding of NO, let some of the unfortunate ones camp on his 1700 acres that he boasts about..He got us into this awful mess. His speech the other night was a joke..Just another press moment, trying to pull on Americans heart strings but it aint working, LOL..**Long live equality**..Three more years? Oh gee, can we survive? What will be the next catastrophe under this fool? 9/11, Iraq and now NO..**America where are you**?
The programs in the stimulus...nm
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The History Channel programs are
often very factual. I watch it a lot.
I would love to see the John Adams program but I gave up HBO. They didn't seem to have very good programming for a long time, movie-wise, and a lot of the series were on too late for me, so I gave HBO up (after 15 years).
govt job programs/CETA
My first real job some 30 years ago was a CETA job. That was Comprehensive Employment and Training Act. This was doing medical transcription for a county health department. I worked as a CETA employee for a year, they trained me and paid me, and I have worked in transcription for 30 years, of course moving on to hospital stuff. Made big bucks for quite a few years and now here I am, strangely enough, I think back to the same money I made all those years ago. You've got to keep your sense of humor.
Ronnie Reagan, the man who cut all the programs for mentally ill and sm
that is when you started seeing all the homeless people on the streets. During his reign of terror. A horrible president.
we already have schools and programs to feed our hungry
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Yea but he didn't have to pre-empt my favorite programs
Judge Joe and Judge Alex. They were gonna be pretty good today. Guess I'll have to wait for re-runs. LOL
In our area, all the "Handicapable" work programs are
subsidized through the state or private donors. The state is broke. They have already announced this is one of the areas of the budget that will be eliminated, along with the subsidized housing programs that provide the same people with independent or assisted living residences. The private corporate donors in our area are announcing layoffs by the thousands and have cut way back on community donations.
This is not social programs......this is HUGE government
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Why shouldnt gov fund religious programs?
I should be able to get some funding just like everyone else if I have a religious program. I mean we fund abortion here in the US and abroad. We fund wars, we fund all kinds of CRAP so why NOT religion? Isnt it supposed to be equal and fair? Why is it the religious people of this world, namely the Christians get the short end of the stick?
Here's some info on the 'shovel ready' programs.
Read this morning in our paper that the majority of the stimulus money coming to our great state of Ohio is going to go not to construction projects (like it was supposed to, hence the term 'shovel ready'), but to study construction projects.
I get that maybe we just shouldn't throw money to whatever pothole comes first and that there has to be some sort of order, but the reasoning behind this 'study' given by Gov. Strickland was that it was totally within the parameters of the stimulus and "we're putting engineers and planners to work."
I'm sure that will be greatly appreciated by those construction workers three years from now - after they've lost their homes, cars, equipment, business, etc.
I wish I could explain it, but I just don't get it either.
He died a long, long time ago! (If he was ever
Don't force your beliefs on others. It further devalues your faith in the eyes of others.
Correct....or the 3.5 trillion dollar social programs
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Tax cuts, progressive tax system, social programs
are as American as apple pie and these same policies and initiatives can be found puncuating the pages of our history from the day of our country's inception.
You do not understand Marxism or socialism, or you would be a lot more exercised by the current redistribution of wealth that takes your tax dollars and moves them upward to an elite ruling class that represses and undermines the middle class at the drop of a hat. State ownership of banks, lending institutions and direct personal property "buy outs" (as proposed by McCain certainly smack of Marxism and are not exactly what you could call traditional American values.
employer based-programs subsidize insurance...
not just make it available--and therein lies my problem.
And govt shouldn't fund religious programs....
schools, facilities, etc.
I am not in your life....I am in the life of the baby...
and will continue to speak for the baby. Again, my right.
Putting together job programs in order to get people back to work....sm
able to perhaps save their homes and families, able to pay taxes, which will in turn pay for social programs, support the infrastructure, and then when folk are back to work they will feel secure in perhaps purchasing again, which will help businesses....FDR did it, it takes time, it is not a quick fix, it won't make Obama into Merlin, it took 8 LONG YEARS to get into this bottomless pit, can we give this administration at least a year or two to try to get things moving upward again? I may not support every social program included therein, but work is being done, adn will continue. I used to cross the desert on occasion when I lived in CA, and I am starting to see vultures on the side of the road again circling and not even waiting to pounce and pull apart the government. Why? Just my opion.
NOBODY can make Saddam look good. But Bush seems to be the ONLY one who can make him look less
If you can't make abortion illegal, just make it impossible (sm)
That's right, Bush is still alive and well. Check this out.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#28024676
Yeah, I know it's MSNBC, but how many other people are doing a lame duck watch?
No conservatives either
The last time I looked at cons board there were no conservatives there either, just extreme right-wing nuts.
I mean conservatives. sm
True conservatives. The ones who don't believe in abortion, believe our money should be ours to spend, are fiscally conservative, and believe in smaller government. The true conservative Reagan Republican. I seriously doubt any of them were there. And yes, libertarians are conservative as well, for the most part. I don't know if they were there are not. The conservative pundits I follow who are libertarian were definitely not there.
If the conservatives think SP is sm
so great, why does the conservative talk radio in my city basically treat her as a sex object, wanting to see her naked or in suggestive clothing, etc.? I even think they put a suggestive picture of her on their web site. I think its so disrespectful and I'm not even going to vote for her! Talk about sexist. Does this go on in other cities? I can understand ratings and revenue but we talking about possibly the second most powerful person in the country and they can't even be respectful!  A man isn't treated this way. Maybe conservatives are the ones afraid of a strong woman.
I just love it when Conservatives are
WOW the Conservatives are hateful here.
I was looking on the conservative board and there is so much aggression and anger there. What is up with that? WHY?
They don't call them CONservatives for nothing!
Con means to deceive or mislead. That's how they communicate, from Bush right on down to his peon worshippers. They deceive, lie, mislead, twist, manipulate. They do everything except speak the truth. This is a perfect example. You asked them above to see the post. You didn't get a response, did you?
Now they'll just continue to troll this board with more outrageous fictional tales conceived in their tiny little minds, all for the purpose of demeaning and attacking liberals.
It's really sad, irritating and definitely bothersome, but they are their own worst enemy because they are getting more and more out of control every day. In a way, I guess I will really be worried if it stops. If I no longer see those angry hateful posts here, I will fear that they finally snapped in real life and either hurt someone else or got hurt themselves. 
conservatives and stinks
Conservative and stinks..nah, at least not what the poster below stated..Dont ya know, Libby, per conservative post below, it is us liberals/democrats/anti war people who dont bathe and have a stench about us? Yeah, right.
The conservatives want to have their cake and eat it too...sm
It's OK for a church to be prowar and not lose their exempt status, but not against it. Hypocrisy is reeking.
Stuff like this is the reason there is a separation between church and state to begin with. Give it an inch and we all lose.
Maybe the FBI is preventing conservatives from seeing it.
LoL.
I doubt a lot of conservatives were there. sm
True conservatives would not have been caught dead there. Maybe some RINOS.
I hear, and I think most of the conservatives on these
boards...here what you are saying. We just do not agree with you, so we counter the points. That is what debate is. It is working just like it is supposed to. Do you consider debate to be working only if the other side capitulates and you *win?*
Why is it such a challenge for conservatives to
and take personal responsibility for their actions and their consequences? This has nothing to do with libs. It has everything to do with the connections between racial, bigoted hate speech, violence, crime and cold-blooded murder.
Yes. Do tell how conservatives would lead us
out of the darkness and into the light.
The conservatives should put down their martinis
and start smoking weed. Whole lot better'n being a mean drunk, and they might even start thinking clearly enough again to figure out what 'fiscal responsibility' really is.
Here are some celebrity conservatives.
Kelsey Grammer
Gary Sinise
Stephen Baldwin
Patricia Heaton
Dennis Hopper
Craig T. Nelson
Ben Stein
Tom Sellek
Kurt Russell
Ted Nugent
Elizabeth Hasselbeck
Angie Harmon
John Ratzenberger
Are they blaming conservatives
and pro-life people for one person who lied? It seems to me like these pro-life people were trying to be supportive and be there for someone that they really thought needed them. How where they supposed to know that they were being lied to? Instead of blaming conservatives as a whole on this one, why aren't they placing the blame on the ignorant woman who was addicted to blogging and made all of this up? I just don't get the logic some of you people have. One person lied and so all these pro-lifers came to her aid thinking she needed it and somehow it isn't the liars fault.....it is the pro-lifers. Yeah...makes perfect sense.....sheesh
because conservatives stick to the old,
boring stuff and it is the independents and liberals that breathe fresh air into life.
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