You have that completely backwards, it was President Clinton's administration that had a balance
Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-01-28
In Reply to: Bush kept us safe after 9-11. Economy was great - til dems took over 2 years ago.nm
for the firs time in modern history; not only that, there was a government surplus. George came, and I think you can following the bouncing ball here....trillions of dollars in deficit left behind...talk about rewriting history!!!! I wish people would stop making ludicrous statements without one work to back it up............
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Clinton Administration.
Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
Here is the link to this article
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
Here is another one
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,432501,00.html
I was taught in school if the economy is doing bad now, it was due to the president 6-8 years ago. If the economy is doing well, it is also due to the president who was in office 6-8 years ago.
Since it's almost Income Tax time, here's some interesting facts about the Democrat and Republican tax policies. Just compare - and, while you're at it, use these facts the next time you hear that President Bush only "cut taxes for the rich". Looks to me like someone single and making $30K, or a couple making $60K, got a 46% tax break under the Republicans. That's what I would call taking care of the "middle class".
And remember, the truth only comes out when we refuse to be silent....
Source: www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html
Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250
NOBODY from Bill Clinton's administration.
They did enough damage.
You SHOULD have been more 'terrified' of the former President's administration
and illegal policies they slipped past you when you were not looking.
I'd say Bush paid closer attention than did the Clinton administration!
Bin Laden was on the radar during the Clinton administration and yet the potential threat he posed was virtually ignored!
Excuse me, but during Clinton administration, we had a balanced budget for the first time in ......s
American history, plus a surplus. I am not saying that everything that Bill Clinton did was good, and keep in mind that you were living in one of the most expensive areas of the country (I used to be a Californian, San Francisco is outrageous), for most of us, there was relative prosperity and peace, even though the Terrorists were were already threatening, but that also went back to Daddy Bush's time. How anyone can think that things are better now, I can't imagine! I am happy for you if you feel you personally are better off,that is great, but area you even seeing the hundreds of thousands of Americans who are filing for unemployment, many for the first time in their lives? Every day more lay-offs and closings? Banking deregulation under the Republican adminstration killed this country in so many ways, not to mention trillions for a war where.....we accomplished what? Why can't the Iraqi people fight for their own independence and freedom, as we did, and as the French did? We got rid of Saddam, and yes he was evil, but Osams is still on the loose. Afghanistan I could see, to get that demon, but going into Iraq? That all came down to oil interestes, IMHO, and Halliburton made a bundle. IMHO
No, the biggest charlatan has been the outgoing President and his administration..
Good thing Obama has a tough hide - the names people have called him could leave another man weeping- yikes! The biggest charlatans have been the ones elected to run this country into the ground for the last eight years..who lied time and time again about matters of 'national security', who have continued to send troops to Iraq to fight Georgie Porgie's 'personal vendetta war' people who have blatantly robbed us of our jobs and savings to fatten their personal coffers and those of their buddies...i could go on but it makes me madder than he!! to see these lying criminals who have done these things and hear the garbage cranked out by the media that we are supposed to take as gospel because THEY told us so therefore it must be TRUE...what really stops me in my tracks when people DEFEND GWB as if he didn't KNOW what was happening in his own administration. And guess what? I'm not a dem and not a pub- i'm in the middle and it truly breaks my heart to see what has happened to our country in the last eight years; it's downright digusting and criminal.
and I believe she will. When Clinton ran for president...
with the same credentials she has, a governorship...he didn't jump right in and give interviews either. He had to sit down with advisors and bone up on areas he was not as well versed in, because he came from state politics, not national politics. That happens in every case. It happened with Obama. He didn't sit down for interviews with someone who would really ask him questions until this week and he has been running for 18 months. She has been running for a week.
I would like to post some questions to Obama too. About teaching the Alinsky method of organizing. About William Ayers. About his early days in Chicago politics. I would like to ask a lot of questions more important than books in a library in wasilla alaska. But you will NEVER hear the mainstream media ask him those questions. Ever. They protect him, and they attack her.
So much for fairness in American journalism. What a joke.
We could have had him when Clinton was President....
before the towers came down. He decided not to take the Sudan up on their offer to deliver him. If you are going to lay blame, blame all involved.
I'm not saying Clinton was a good president ...
but you are wrong, he was not impeached.
But I know how you feel, I feel the same way every time I see the current Pres. Bush, and am starting to feel that way about McCain. There is just something about that man that doesn't sit right with me. And if I was a Republican I wouldn't necessarily change my party, but I would not necessarily be voting with it either.
When Clinton was president, we had no need to borrow..sm
We had a big surplus and the economy rebounded after a major slump during the Bush I term. It took several years for Bust II to use up the surplus and put us into debt again, while Americans are losing their jobs and cooporate executives are earning record profits and benefits, stock options etc., while people are losing their retirement savings. Borrowing since the 80s. Who was president in the 80s? Bush and Reagen thats who.
Name me one good thing Bill Clinton did as President
I voted for Clinton when he first ran agains Bush Sr. After six months of him as president and what I saw happening to the country I re-registered as republican. Every time that man or his wife had their face on the TV I muted it. I cannot tell you why, but hearing his voice or seeing his face literally made me nausous. (I should have invested in Pepto Bismol stock and would have made a fortune because of all the Pepto I went through). I still believe for 8 years we had no president. Just someone sitting in the office, but we didn't have a real leader.
Now I keep hearing how everyone praises Bill Clinton and what a great president he was (even though he was impeached). So I would like to hear from people and name one thing that was good that he did so I could possibly have a different opinion of him. The really odd thing is everytime his face is in the news I get that sick nauseous feeling again and still have to mute him and look away.
The hair just stands up on my neck and I really feel like I am looking at what evil is (and I'm not religious, but he just gives me a creepy feeling), so please tell me something good about him.
I found a Freudian slip too - present elect Clinton (not president erect)
HA HA HA - but then if the shoe fits. HA HA HA
I think you have it backwards, backwards typist!
The right-wing Republicans do most of the bashing on this board. Not only do they bash Obama and anyone who supports him, they are also the ones who have posted the most despicable racial slurs and lies. Maybe you should try going forwards instead of backwards!
Fox Balance
How can you saw fox news is pretty balanced in one sentence and then in the next sentence state yes it may lean more conservative. just like a fox news viewer contradictory and speak with forked tongue - which is it now - blance or lean more conservative?
yes it may not be on the balance sheet, but if it's our liability
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Fox makes an attempt to be balance
but that's just one network vs. the many left-leaning rest of the major media.
How is that balanced? NEWS should be FAIR and BALANCED, not a thrill up your leg. Now THAT's disgusting.
A voice of reason and balance.
nm
Why the balance of power is so important s/m
This is where the majority of all 3 tiers of the government can make such a difference. Say what you will/want about the GOP (I carry water for no one), but even they couldn't spend money this badly.
Just my 2 cents. I just want my country back. It's literally sliding right out of our hands by the day.
Point is, the balance largely has shifted conservative...nm
Yep, that'll happen when pigs balance the budget......
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Wow, my post was totally and completely respectful and yours is totally and completely not. sm
what a surprise. Can't stand to be corrected or proven wrong, can you. Have to call everyone a liar, don't you. Got to tell people to stick things somewhere, don't you. TSK TSK TSK Anger management might be helpful.
If customary deference to a sitting president by president elect
for the rest of us who understand such concepts as respect and traditional protocol, it would qualify as a darned good reason.
and besides you got it backwards
Wilson wrote that piece because the White House was trying to smear him because he wouldn't go along with their pretenses and lies....and when you go against the White House you are bound to lose. Scooter turned out to be the fall guy for this.
So anyway, no use trying to have a "lively debate" when your basic facts are radically different from most liberal's facts.
BY the way, I would suggest for your own mental health that you get out in the world more. You appear to LIVE on this board and spend the better portion of your waking hours reading posts and slamming the posters and cutting and pasting followed by more cutting and pasting.....it is mind-boggling.
You know what backwards? sm
For months you have been sarcastic and spread false info about Obama. It's time now to stand up and admit, your choice lost. Obama did say even before the election that it would take time and maybe 10 years for the economy to turn around. Did you not hear that? I take umbrage to your snide remarks. Your sour grapes are hard to swallow I'm sure, but try to be a good American and give the HONEST MAN with NO AGENDA like OIL AND CRONYISM, a chance.
wow - didn't look backwards to me - nm
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BACKWARDS thinking?
Do a little research on McBush before you think he'll do a better job.
It's entirely IRResonsible to elect a 72-year-old bush wannabe with a half-baked right wingnut in the wings as second in line to the still most powerful office in the world.
Like war and paying for REBUILDING SOMEONE ELSE'S COUNTRY instead of your own?
THEN MCBUSH IS YOUR MAN
You've got it backwards!!
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Thanks, backwards typist
I opened my original post, and saw nothing wrong with it. I'm not sure why it's so hard for some here to just go to wnd.com. Another one to check out is ibd.com (Investors' Business Daily).
Incidentally, McCain isn't conservative enough for me, but I have little choice. Sarah Palin is more my style. Regardless of the outcome, I predict a future ticket with Sarah & Bobby Jindal, in no particular order. Talk about a dream ticket! In a very short time he's done wonders for New Orleans.
Yes, our country has gone backwards..
Any sick jackbutt that wants to do harm and get a gun can and always has. They don't get a license! Those of us who have the right to bear arms are the ones people like Obama want to go after. You don't hear him talking about the crime and violence, but instead those of us who want to keep our guns for our own protection. That's because he knows where most of the violence occurs and why. But you'll never hear him stand on a podium and preach that.
Just because he can have bodyguards WITH GUNS protecting his butt doesn't mean I do.
Just wait, he'll have so many criminals dumped back onto our streets it will be frightening.
This is what communist countries do...they take away any power from their people so government can dictate and run them any way they want and the people have no way to even stand up to wrongdoing, even by their own government, which has played itself over and over in this world.
Now all those O lovers can flame all they want. I really do NOT care!!!
it should be.....backwards thinking
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Backwards politicians nm
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you have it all BACKWARDS, move on!
We all know that politics is a 'dirty' business. You said it yourself.
Why do you attack Obama and not McCain. They all have skeleton in the closet, some more, some less.
Actually, we all do, don't you?
not Backwards Typist--the one above
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What is that BACKWARDS VOTER?
hahaha
you've got it backwards
your family may face hardships with the bailout but they are nothing compared to what will happen without saving this industry. The failure of the automotive industry will be the final straw in the total destruction of the American economy. 3.5 million being temporarily jobless, as you state, is only the tip of the iceberg. To begin with, those 3.5 million are, for the most part, not the ones responsible. they are simply working people just like you and I who also want to be able to care for their families. Put yourself in their shoes too. Secondly, and more importantly, the domino effect of this would cause millions of others to lose their jobs and benefits. Just think what happens then. Government programs will be caring for all of those people, and all of that will be coming out of YOUR pocket. That's millions of people collecting unemployment and God knows how many other businesses forced to close. And that "temporarily unemployed" statement. Where do you expect these millions of people are going to go to find work? There will be nothing temporary about it. Now factor in the crime that will result from people not being able to affording housing and food and other basic necessities for their families. Add to that the demoralizing effects of this rampant unemployment on society. You really need to look at the bigger picture.
I'm with both you and Backwards Typist on this.....sm
There's only supposed to be one president at a time, but we've had two since the first week of November.
Obama shows contempt and disrespect for the current administration and president, every time he holds a press conference or releases press regarding everything that's wrong in America and how he's going to fix it all.
Of course, he's already warned us that it's going to get worse, so he'll be able to keep blaming Bush for the next four years.
Thanks Backwards typist
It's hard to describe the feelings I have. Of course everyone wants him to do well because that would mean it would be good for our country, but DH and I have said over and over they are putting him on a pedistal (sp?), some people are coming out actually equating him with Jesus and what if he happens to do something wrong, what if he fails. Since he has not taken the office yet you can't say he won't or will fail.
It's just a very very scary time now and I for one will not be sleeping without worry. What I know is that he has promised everyone everything and now they are coming to collect. So when our "so-called" enemy countries come back with you better do what I want or else, he's going to have to do what they want. Just horribly horribly unsettling.
I want issues. Like you I come to this board to hear issues. I used to love the links people provided, but now there are some posters who just keep coming on attacking. Hopefully in a week things will settle down and we can get to business. But for now I don't see that happening.
So people who read this...issues, issues, issues. Articles (and please not the "he's like us cos he eats chile dogs and cheese fries" articles). What are his plans, what is he putting in places, what is Pelosi arguing with him about, how's it going to affect us, when is he going to give us that welfare money he promised in his campaign, when is he going to tax the companies who take jobs overseas, why has he now decided not to tax the rich like he promised during the campaign. These are the issues I want to hear. Not about people chanting his name with glee.
No, you have it backwards. McCain was harping on how...sm
much experience he had and how little Obama had. When he picked Palin and said her experience was sufficient to be president is when all the republicans, and "independents" starting comparing Obama to Palin as far as what the perceive experience to be.
I saw the picture, Kaydie...the B is backwards!
The police have serious doubts about her story, as well. You are very gullible!
I have to confess to backwards typist
they are usually flimsy opinions with no fact, looking for arguments so u are right, i do nont read them.... also what I posted was for dems only so why did u read it? looking for trouble i guess huh?
Well, please, next time, if you aren't a dem and I say dems only, just skip it and we will both be happier.
Thank you.
gnah
Hiya Backwards Typist...how are you? sm
I agree with a lot of what you have posted in this thread.
Unfortunately, I really think the Obama administration will not let anyone sink...they will throw a lifeline called socialistm....we will all be owned by the government, and be paying for it for decades to come. Bush opened the door a crack, and Obama is going to prop it open, and take full advantage of the American people.
Most of them won't know what has hit them, until it's too late.
Obama has bent over backwards to
The Republicans don't care about everyday people like most of the ones who post on this board. They only care about the richest of the rich. The Republicans are obstructionists and just waste space in DC. It's time they're voted out.
That's 'cause you've got it on backwards. NM
The shapeless part goes in the front...or maybe it's the back. Scrooge it, I guess it doesn't really matter. You ain't going nowhere anyway without yo' man!
Amen! Backwards, could not agree more.nm
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by the way, backwards typist - I like hearing your viewpoint -
I am not bashing anybody - I respond sometimes to comments with my own opinions, but I respect that you have the right to yours also.
I never call anyone a liar on this board - but if I see something I think is incorrect, I will try to correct the information if I can...
Also, I agree with the issues needing to be discussed and not bashing - for example, I asked who would vote for SP in 2012 and it turned into "she's better than him" or "he did this" below. I truly wanted to know who would vote for her in the primaries.
But, I don't think it is just the dems tearing down the pubs - I am standing on the fence (neutral to party sides) and I see it going both ways...
I'm with backwards typist, Kaydie, and la difference..nm
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Totally agree with you Backwards typist
Sorry haven't been on in awhile and just saw this message. I totally agree with you. The only thing that's going to happen by taking our guns away is that we will not be able to defend ourself. The criminals will still have their weapons.
I am thankful for the NRA - was so sad when Charlton Heston got sick, but I'm glad they are there protecting our rights.
Thanks Backwards Typist - aint that the truth
Brother, talk about trying have a serious discussion. Anytime someone says something negative about what's going on currently they have to say Bush this or Bush that, when the conversation wasn't even about Bush to begin with. It's like what I heard earlier by a democrat on TV. He said if you make fun of Bush it's okay, if you make fun of Obama its not. If you make fun of Palin it's okay if you make fun of Helen Thomas or some other democrat it's not. This is getting very one-sided and it's sad to see what is happening to the country.
I still stand by my original message though that I'm sick and tired of seeing all these specials about the life and times of Obama treating him as though he founded a whole new country, when we've been around for over 200 years and have done very well before he came along.
Thanks for the support BT - knew I could you on you for some clear thinking and sanity. I ended up having to just shut it down today and it was quite frustrating having to repeat the same thing over and over, gave me a headache.
Ignore the negativity truck, there, backwards typist.
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Gotta give Backwards Typist credit...
for picking an appropriate name for herself.
backwards as usual, it's because BUSH DVETOED REGULATION sm
My goodness, do you not have any of the facts? I'm finished with you.
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