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You sound irrational...killing ethiopian babies with your money? ???

Posted By: Mrs. M on 2009-01-21
In Reply to: Oh, there's that self-righteous garbage again - sm

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irrational request...
Maybe you need a reboot like your dear Obama!! huh?
I do wish we all could make a new selection because all of his mistakes are systems errors!!
Well isn't that funny...I thought irrational was more like...
yes its alive, well no it isn't. It doesn't have a soul so it doesn't matter. Well yes, if it breathed it is alive and G-d gave it a soul, and then defend Obama voting AGAINST saving that child. That sounds somewhat more irrational to me.

Frankly, I don't see a difference between shooting someone who inconveniently is wearing the shoes someone else wants and slicing and dicing a living child because someone DOESN'T want it.

They are just as dead either way.
better a poor MT than an irrational fool


Printing money we dont have? Borrowing money
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rational to one is irrational to another..dont like it, dont read it
Rational posts?  Well, maybe you would think that, however, I disagree..but, what the heck, from your continual posts attacking me over the past few months, it is obvious that we dont agree on anything.  Gotta tell ya, no one chases a person from a chat board..that is a lame excuse for someone who obviously was not able to hold his/her own with the smart liberals who post on this  liberal board.  So gt chased her/him away.  On please!  If a poster is getting to you, you just ignore their posts..dont click on them..Viola!  It is that easy!  Or dont come on the liberal board if you do not like liberal ideology!  Viola!  It is that easy!  So, Im here all the time am I?  Well, punkin, I see your handle always on both this board and the dinosaur board..er..I mean conservative board.  Is this what your debating has gotten down to?  Lets count and see who is here more often?  How ridiculous, how childish, how so....republican.  **BIG HUG**
Not pro-war, oh yeah, just pro-killing.

...and they look like such nice boys.....


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They will be killing 2 birds
with one stone here. Obviously those who were too poor to get out of the city are going to be too poor to get back in, never mind rebuilding. They have been spread out over the country which does break down the democratic voting base, turning LA into a Republican state. Also the vulture developers can build condo upon condo starting at about the half million mark and the sky's the limit. It's was a perfect storm, got rid of the poor, the blacks, i.e, the strongly Democratic base and it allows the rich to come on down, build their gated communities, vote Republican and keep the riff raff out.
Killing this country?
In less than 4 months? He hasn't even had a chance to initiate anything yet to kill it. If you feel the country is dying, cast that upon the previous administration, who handed Obama a 'flat lined' country and now you gripe about Obama because he hasn't fixed 8 years of malignant policies in 4 months?

Which brings us the reason Dubya's name keeps coming up. The anti-Prez-O folks keep pointing to Obama and saying he's killing the country. Dubya's name comes up because he's the one who pulled the trigger; BO is just the poor schmuck working the ER when the patient got rolled in.
billions for killing Iraqis okay
not one red cent for the poor! 
How did we go from killing wolves in an inhumane way
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You agree with killing infants??
I mean most humans don't...

Like I said, not a POLITICAL ISSUE

A HUMANITY ISSUE!

I am so tired of you guys that are so star struck with Obama! It's getting insane! No, I don't like Mccain. But my God, killing infants?? Where does it stop????

Please, please just answer me yes or no....without regards to candidates, politics, etc...

Do you believe it is right for a newborn to be killed just because the abortion was botched? Not a FETUS, not an EMBRYO, a living, breathing, baby that has come out of the mother and the cord has been cut. Do you think that is okay?
ROFL!! You're killing me here.
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yes, about killing humans that are ALIVE
Not unborn ones...
The unions are killing companies, though. That is
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I am ok with shooting him but not with torturing and then killing him ..nm
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It takes money to make money. nm


Why do you defend killing of innocent civilians?

I have never said I defend Hezbollah.  I don't defend Hezbollah.  They're terrorists, and they're horrible.


But blindly defending Israel, regardless of what they do, doesn't work for me either.  What is most disquieting to me is that you defend Israel's placement of landmines to kill innocent civilians, designed to go off at a later date when people least expect it?  Why don't you consider that terrorism, as well?


 


There's a big difference between killing a fully developed,
is at that point only a bunch of tissue that will EVENTUALLY be a human being, but is not, and is a long way out from being one. The OP, by the way, was NOT talking about abortion rights, or the pro-life religious movement, etc. Why you people have to infuse this argument into everything is beyond me. The OP was talking about WOLVES. And the fact that SP was not against what appears to amount to aerial target-practice. Please take your pro-life sentiments to another thread (and preferably, another forum.)
Obama killing EVERY unborn child now?
Man I guess I missed that. Obama causes end to human race. We better get to work on that stem cell research and cloning and stuff or there will be no one around to complain.
One killing does not a serial killer make........ sm
and you really should do some research on your own. The Koran might be a good place to start, especially the teachings on a man's role OVER his wife as well as a Muslim's instructions concerning "the infidels."
They'd never make fun of killing W....cuz then we would be stuck with CHENEY!!!!!

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Cry babies
Your post is so true.  Cry babies, run to the moderator and get the posts they disagree with deleted, even though they are posted on the LIBERAL board.  
Cry babies
The posts that get removed are removed because they violate the rules for the boards posted by the administrator. Typical liberal response, follow only the rules you like, and to use your term, become a cry baby when the you don't like the rules. With all due respect, spend less time whining about who posts on what board and what posts are removed, and more time trying to figure out why you think it is more important to investigate Bush than it is to concentrate on terrorism. Still having a real difficult time trying to wrap my mind around that one. But..it does underscore why conservatives are so concerned and rightly so.
Cry babies
The two posts of last week were removed because a conservative who came on this board (you?) did not agree with them.  Both were articles from journalists and printed in major newspapers, so obviously cleared and approved by the editors of the newspapers and read throughout America.  However, the conservative did not agree with the articles, so whined and cried and ran to the moderator (flash back of junior high actions) and had them removed.  My opinion is, if a conservative cannot handle an article that was posted in a newspaper and obviously cleared by its editor, dont read it, go back to the conservative board and leave the liberal board alone.  I have never posted on the conservative board but have read some of the posts and some are definitely inflammatory and attacks on liberal/democratic politicians.  Liberals have not asked to have those posts removed.  Conservatives:  Do as I say, not as I do.   
How many babies do you think die in
the wars that Bush and McCain support? Or does it only matter when American babies die?


You say you think McCain is the lesser of two evils because he is against abortion, right? Well if you are against the concept of killing innocent life, you should be APPALLED at the number of innocent children the US has killed in IRAQ, and will kill in Iran if Mr. 'Prolife" McCain gets in power.

Let your "conscience" be your guide.



So were the babies
murdered. I don't see you making a case for them.
Your president only cares about killing people in Iraq.

That's first and foremost in his mind, and Americans can go to hell, as far as he's concerned.


He thinks the war is more important than anything, including funding of projects to prevent a hurricane from destroying vulnerables, including funding border patrols, including forcing Americans to go broke just because they want to stay warm in the winter.


I overheard a conversation last night in a store.  A woman was complaining of gas prices and said she didn't know if she'd be able to afford to heat her home this winter.  Another woman told her about Jessie Jackson and his visit to Chavez and Chavez' offer to help low-income Americans with heating fuel.


This woman (who reminded me very much of some of you who post here, always in attack mode) said she and her children would FREEZE before she'd take any welfare from a communist.  She then went on a tirade about the kind of people who receive welfare (not fit to print on a public forum like this).  I was shocked, and the first three things that popped in my mind were Jim Jones, David Koresh and PEOPLE LIKE YOU.


Is there any length you people WON'T go to to defend this idiot president who doesn't care enough about YOU to make gasoline and heating oil affordable? 


Clinton wasn't killing innocent people. NM
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Where was the concern of anyone when Saddam was killing the Iraqi people?
I must say, this is one of the most egregious of all arguments that is made in this country, or any country.  Saddam tortured, killed, maimed and raped his own people for decades and not a word was said.  Now with a chance for a free Iraq, this concern surfaces. Where was it all these years?
Distractions from perky one while CEOs make killing
Hello. Pub campaign strategies fleece flock one again.
Sarah Palin & aerial wolf-killing


Not easy to watch, but if she's for this, then I'm against her.


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Anchor babies. sm

You mean to tell me, gourdpainter, that you don't celebrate this country's great  cultural differences and rights for every American born citizen?  I'm shocked!!!! 

Seriously, yes, I do see this as a problem, but doing away with the 14th Amendment is not the way to keep this from happeniing.  I'm not sure what the correct procedure for handling this would be or even if it could be done as anchor babies are automatically citizens, but I would think writing your congressmen would be the place to start.  This is one of the tragedies this country might face because of weak borders and law enforcement's seeming inabiilty to send illegals back where they came from.  It goes deeper than that, though. 

You know, you mentioned in another post that no Native American has ever run for POTUS.  Actually, they probably have more right than Caucasian American citizens to hold this office as they were here first. 


anchor babies are ---
Anchor babies are babies born to foreigners on American soil. They by virtue of being born here are automatically American citizens even if their parents are not and even if their parents are here illegally. Thus, one day, we could very well have a president whose parents are here illegally, whose parents do not speak English, and he will be legal to be the president! Think that's right?
The law concerning anchor babies....sm

In 1898, the Supreme Court in United States v. Wong Kim Ark declared that the Fourteenth Amendment adopted the common-law definition of birthright citizenship. Chief Justice Melville W. Fuller’s dissenting opinion, however, argued that birthright citizenship had been repealed by the principles of the American Revolution and rejected by the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment. Nonetheless, the decision conferred birthright citizenship on a child of legal residents of the United States. Although the language of the majority opinion in Wong Kim Ark is certainly broad enough to include the children born in the United States of illegal as well as legal immigrants, there is no case in which the Supreme Court has explicitly held that this is the unambiguous command of the Fourteenth Amendment.

Based on the intent of the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment, some believe that Congress could exercise its Section 5 powers to prevent the children of illegal aliens from automatically becoming citizens of the United States. An effort in 1997 failed in the face of intense political opposition from immigrant rights groups. Apparently, the question remains open to the determination of the political and legal processes.


http://www.heritage.org/Research/GovernmentReform/wm925.cfm


Where do babies come from? 1 man and 1 woman
I understand these relationships, but I don't think traditional marriage between a man and a woman should cover gays/lesbians.  They have civil unions in my state and now they want marriage.  Leave the tradition of marriage alone.
I am not willing to assume that 1.2 million babies...
would have horrible lives. I can't see killing them all just in case some might suffer. But how is our choice to decide whether or not someone lives based on what kind of life they might have? I think it should be the choice of the creator, myself. I am curious as to what you think your creator thinks about choosing to kill an unborn child? I think mine's heart breaks every time one happens...over 2000 times a day. Yes, that's what I think.

It's quick? It's horrible but its quick? Good grief!!

You keep discounting the right of the child to live. Who are you, the mother, or anyone else, to say that child has no right to live? Do you think your creator endowed you with that right? Just curious.
How many unwanted babies have you adopted, sam? (nm)
???
but there was already a law in place to protect the babies -
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wow -- that's as sad as 1/2 aborted babies being left
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No, most of those murder enough babies legally as well.....
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They cant stop having babies if they have no forms

Remember the babies in dumpsters?
We had a 17-year-old come in our hospital, full-term and in complete denial she was pregnant. She got mad and left when told she was pregnant. She came back a few weeks later and they could not save her - she never went into labor, the baby was stillborn in her for god knows how long and it subsequently killed her. This kid was living here and there - her parents did not care. The ills in society will remain regardless of the laws.
Obama is not saying he wants babies murdered -
Obama is prochoice - that means each person has the right to decide for themselves. You all amaze me when you say you want the government out of your life and to quit telling you what you have to do, but then it is okay for the government to tell the other person that they can't do something they want to because it does not go along with your belief system.

I would never ever have an abortion. I think it is wrong. However, I think that each person should have the right to decide for themselves if they do it or not. In this case I agree, government stay out of my business!
Nope. She can have all the babies SHE wansts to have.
It's a free country. Believers in pro-choice want to KEEP it free.
Sorry, but according to the law, anchor babies are US citizens - nm
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this message is misleading - she is not for killing innocent soldiers and civilians in Iraq
You lumped killing innocent wildlife and killing soldiers and civilians in Iraq into the same line. She is not for killing innocent solderies and civilians in Iraq.

As distasteful as it is killing wildlife she is definitely not for the other. That is totally absurb.

Show me the proof where she said she is for killing innocent soldiers and civilians in Iraq.

You may hate her but making up totally false statement is outrageous and why once again I see the "political rape" of Sarah Palin. If you can show me proof I take back this last paragraph and eat my words, but I need proof. Saying something like that is like saying because Obama is a Muslim he is for killing all american if they don't convert to the muslim faith. Plain idiocracy.
nm and you thumb your nose at everying - common sense - killing this country.nm
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Better 1.2 million dead babies a year?
I think we get where you are coming from.
babies are piling up in hospitals and all you're

Have you written or called your local representative?  Have you written Congress?  What about getting a group together to picket the issue on Capitol Hill?


So many people claim to care, but what they really want is a "clear conscience".  Not voting for Obama does not clear anyone of this travesty.  It only makes people like you think it does.  Sam, you claim to be an independent, but you need to change your card to republican.  That's how a republican operates.  They only worry about if their hands are clean at the end of the day. 


GP..Exactly. And those "anchor babies" can sponsor their whole family and who know what else.
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You don't think you might hear the cries of aborted babies....
where were you? Why didn't you help me?