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gourdpainter - you're one to be calling someone hateful

Posted By: it's the pot calling the kettle black on 2008-11-01
In Reply to: You rabid republicans need to - gourdpainter

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LOL ! And you are calling people hateful below??
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No gt you're never hateful or nasty
don't stand in an open field during a thunderstorm.
You're right, gourdpainter............sm
Nor has there been an Asian American president or Mexican American president. I stopped voting by party or any other criteria than a candidate's platform, policies and what I perceived his character to be a long time ago. If a black candidate were running that had the qualifications I personally look for in a president (or any other elected office, for that matter) I would vote for him in a heartbeat. Obama just is not that person, but there may be one in the future as he has broken the ground for a black man to run.
Truth? You're delusional if those think those hateful . . .
signs portraying President Obama as Hitler, as a socialist, a lot of them extremely racist, are truthful.  And those are the signs that were shown on the coverage from Fox.  Inciting hate and racism is Un-American, no two ways about it.
They're not bored. They's simply bitter and hateful.

Each and every person who even comes CLOSE to being nice to, respecting and liking JTBB will be attacked, like little second-graders in a clique.  Unfortunately, because you are being nice and trying to hold a dialogue with JTBB, you are their newest target.  (I believe I was their target last week and probably will be their target again.)


They can't come up with anything intelligent to say, so they attack, as the rabid right have become known to do.


Just keep doing what you're doing.  I enjoy reading your posts.  They make sense, they're friendly and respectful, and and those kinds of posts are sometimes rare on this board.


 


GOURDPAINTER!!! I'm so glad you're back! I

agree with every single point made by Backwards Typist!!!


It's so good to see you return!    I hope you don't leave again. 


Unbiased opion? Oh, gourdpainter, you're my new hero.
I mean, I thought that Macaque Obama was full of sh it. But, lady, YOU take the cake. I mean, YOU make Macaque look downright HONEST by comparison.

Maybe you could work for his campaign. I hear he pays REAL well. (You don't mind changing your name to Chicago Joe's Kid Kamp or Chi-Town Youth Enrichment or something, do you? 'Cuz then he could throw you HEAPS of money and no one would ever figure it out.
You're calling someone else judgmental?

You're calling someone else judgmental?
Wow...super pot/kettle moment. Gay kids are tormented in schools all the time. Back when I was a kid (many many years ago), they weren't yet called gay. They were the sissy. They were the ones the football team would nail in gym class and smear BenGay on them. They were the ones that got so abused in Dodge Ball that it's no longer considered appropriate in many schools. These poor kids suffered through all kinds of mental anguish because they couldn't really understand what made them a target. You may like to think gays choose to be homosexual, but there is nobody that would choose to go through the crap that those kids went through then and still go through in many areas of this country.

And you go ahead and stick your head in the sand. And maybe you better rethink who you think is the pervert murderer. Most of them are nice straight heterosexual, boy scout troop leading, baseball team coaching, family men who had this sudden lapse where boys started looking good. You don't suppose they maybe developed latent homosexual tendencies because a closed-minded judgmental zealot parent made them repress it all their life, do you?
And now you're calling me a racist? .....ROFL
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Name calling? Point out 1 instance of "nasty name calling" in response to your posts
Your childlike accusations are patently false - but you are indeed welcome to your own opinion. I just don't have to agree.
You just can't see how hateful you are
can you?  You just accused someone of being and alcoholic without knowing one thing about him or her.  You are the one who gets loopier the longer you post.  You are the reason along with your ilk that no one can post anyone where on this forum and I sincerely hope that the moderator bans you.
If you act this hateful, then you probably
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You should know by know how hateful
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What is hateful about it? sm
It's a protest. We do that in this country. She's a politician. People disagree with her political positions and policies and it's hateful? You're taking it waaaay too personally. If you go out and protest against your governor's policies, does that make you hateful, for expressing your opinion and disagreeing with your governor? Of course not. Ladies, SP is not your mother/daughter/sister/BFF. She can handle herself. Keep in mind, she's a *politician.* They all are in this race.
it is not hateful until the end, where it says...
"Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds." This was clearly not meant to be nice. Also, posting near a Nativity scene was just trying to pick a fight. However, destroying the sign, stealing it or anything else is not the right thing to do either. Rather, I think that I just feel for someone who needs to be so controversial in a happy season and would ignore it, shaking my head.
It is hateful in that
it is totally unnecessary.  They sure go to a lot of trouble to fight against something they don't believe in.
Exactly how have I been hateful.
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I am sorry! But I did not mean it in a hateful
way, really, but it is what it is, isn't it?
I admit I better shouldn't have posted it, but I have the same associations DePass has when I look at her.
Maybe it is also because Obama is so much handsomer than Michelle.
It always amazes me when people see Michelle as beautiful! Only in the eye of the beholder.
JMHO, sorry about that.

You are clueless and hateful
and EVERYTHING stated in that article is LIES!
WOW the Conservatives are hateful here.
I was looking on the conservative board and there is so much aggression and anger there.  What is up with that? WHY?
Are you just naturally hateful...
or do you practice? Time for your meds? For someome supposedly sympathetic to the mentally ill (i.e. those on meds), that was a pretty hateful catty little statement. Sticks and stones, Teddy. Sticks and stones.
Yes, he may be hateful and that is why Obama
Obama has distanced himself from Rev. Wright. He does not believe what Rev. Wright has started spewing. What part of this don't you and others understand.

I had a lot of very good and close friends in high school we had a lot in common and were inseparable. Now I've heard from them and their viewpoints are no where near mine and they are nobody I would ever be friends with. This goes to show that people do change.

I for one believe Obama when he says he does not agree with Rev. Wright. I'm just wondering why people won't accept that, but McCain who is still affiliated with his biggoted and hateful pastors say "I don't feel agree with them" and everyone says ok and belives him????
Please explain where Sam is hateful?
I have seen nothing hateful posted. Seriously, I want to know what you consider "hateful."
Does ot make him any less hateful.
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Sam argues, but is not hateful in the way
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Probably the same reason the hateful right is
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Have you always been this hateful toward the poor?
such hostility toward the working class you so strongly assert to be defending is dead-end dialog. That 95% IS the "working class", as you call them. I prefer the term income earners. If you had any clue about the true state of this economy, you would realize that not only is the 95% tax cut feasible, it is exactly what we need and it will be coming at exactly the right time when we all need it the most.

I do not live in a universe where taxpayers line up and bend over while they bail out corporate welfare deadbeats and turn a blind eye on themselves and their children. It must be a very dark world you come from where you seem to thrive on the energy it takes to sustain such hatred in your heart for the poor. My sympathies.
Is This Sign Hateful?

SEE BOTTOM OF MESSAGE FOR SIGN PIC FIRST.


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CNN) -- An atheist sign criticizing Christianity that was erected alongside a Nativity scene was taken from the Legislative Building in Olympia, Washington, on Friday and later found in a ditch.


An employee from country radio station KMPS-FM in Seattle told CNN the sign was dropped off at the station by someone who found it in a ditch. "I thought it would be safe," Freedom From Religion Foundation co-founder Annie Laurie Gaylor told CNN earlier Friday. "It's always a shock when your sign is censored or stolen or mutilated. It's not something you get used to." The sign, which celebrates the winter solstice, has had some residents and Christian organizations calling atheists Scrooges because they said it was attacking the celebration of Jesus Christ's birth.
"Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds," the sign from the Freedom From Religion Foundation says in part. The sign, which was at the Legislative Building at 6:30 a.m. PT, was gone by 7:30 a.m., Gaylor said. The incident will not stifle the group's message, Gaylor said. Before reports of the placard's recovery, she said a temporary sign with the same message would be placed in the building's Rotunda. Gaylor said a note would be attached saying, "Thou shalt not steal."


"I guess they don't follow their own commandments," Gaylor said. "There's nothing out there with the atheist point of view, and now there is such a firestorm that we have the audacity to exist. And then [whoever took the sign] stifles our speech."


Gaylor said that police are checking security cameras pointed at the building's entrances and exits to see if they can see anyone stealing the sign.
 
"It's probably about 50 pounds, " Gaylor said. "My brother-in-law was huffing and puffing carrying it up the stairs. It's definitely not something you can stick under your arm or conceal."


The Washington State Patrol, which is handling the incident, could not be reached for comment.


Dan Barker, a former evangelical preacher and co-founder of the group, said it was important for atheists to see their viewpoints validated alongside everyone else's.


Barker said the display is especially important given that 25 percent of Washington state residents are unaffiliated with religion or do not believe in God. (A recent survey by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found 23 percent of Washingtonians said they were unaffiliated with a religion and 7 percent said they didn't believe in God.)
"It's not that we are trying to coerce anyone; in a way our sign is a signal of protest," Barker said. "If there can be a Nativity scene saying that we are all going to he**ll if we don't bow down to Jesus, we should be at the table to share our views."


He said if anything, it's the Nativity scene that is the intrusion.


"Most people think December is for Christians and view our signs as an intrusion, when actually it's the other way around," he said. "People have been celebrating the winter solstice long before Christmas. We see Christianity as the intruder, trying to steal the holiday from all of us humans."


The scene in Washington state is not unfamiliar. Barker has had signs in Madison, Wisconsin, for 13 years. The placard is often turned around so the message can't be seen, and one year, someone threw acid on it, forcing the group to encase it in Plexiglas.


In Washington, D.C., the American Humanist Association began a bus ad campaign this month questioning belief in God.


"Why believe in a God?" the advertisement asks. "Just be good for goodness sake."


That ad has caused the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority to field hundreds of complaints, the group said, but it has heard just as much positive feedback, said Fred Edwords, the association's spokesman.


Edwords said the ad campaign, which features a shrugging Santa Claus, was not meant to attack Christmas but rather to reach out to an untapped audience.


Edwords maintains the campaign began in December mostly because the group had extra money left over for the year. The connection to Christmas is a coincidence, he said.


"There are a lot of people out there who don't know there are organizations like ours to serve their needs," Edwords said. "The thing is, to reach a minority group, in order to be heard, everyone in the room has to hear you, even when they don't want to."


The ad campaign, Edwords said, is to make people think. He said he doesn't expect to "convert" anyone.
But the Christian Coalition of America is urging members to oppose the advertisements.


"Although a number of humanists and atheists continue to attempt to rid God and Christmas from the public square, the American people are overwhelmingly opposed to such efforts," Roberta Combs, the group's president said in a press release.


"We will ask our millions of supporters to call the city of Washington, D.C., and Congress to stop this un-Godly campaign."


As far as the criticism goes, Edwords said there are far more controversial placards in Washington.
"That's D.C. -- this is a political center," he said. "If I can see a placard with dead fetuses on it, I think someone can look at our question and just think about it."


The anger over the display in Olympia began after it was assembled Monday. The sentiment grew after some national media personalities called upon viewers to flood the phone lines of the governor's office.


The governor's office told The Seattle Times it received more than 200 calls an hour afterward.


"I happen to be a Christian, and I don't agree with the display that is up there," Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire told The Olympian newspaper. "But that doesn't mean that as governor, I have the right to deny their ability to express their free speech."


For some, the issue isn't even that the atheists are putting their thoughts on display, but rather the way in which they are doing it.


"They are shooting themselves in the foot," said iReport contributor Rich Phillips, who describes himself as an atheist. "Everyone's out there for the holidays, trying to represent their religion, their beliefs, and it's a time to be positive."
The atheist message was never intended to attack anyone, Barker said.


"When people ask us, 'Why are you hateful? Why are you putting up something critical of people's holidays? -- we respond that we kind of feel that the Christian message is the hate message," he said. "On that Nativity scene, there is this threat of internal violence if we don't submit to that master. Hate speech goes both ways."


What mean and hateful things you say...
It makes sense that a lot of MT's are conservative. It is a job that can be done from home, earning income and still raising your own family (why I do it), which really is a pretty conservative thing to do. Being conservative does not make me stupid or any of the other hateful words that you alluded to, nor does disagreeing with you.
Her comments are not hateful, considering
the general consensus is that Palin has hurt McCain more than his connection to Bush.  By the way, MrsM never said she hated Palin, but she obviously has a strong opinion about her, and MrsM did not personally attack by namecalling anyone else on here for their opinion.  And yet another example of twisting someone's words to suit their own agenda.  McPalin has taught you well, Grasshopper.
See how hateful liberals are? Which is why I no
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He's a hateful person if ever I saw one......
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Could you possibly be any more bitter and hateful? sm
I see your posts all over.  You just posted on the conservative board but didn't have the nerve to put your usual "gt" signature.  I have never seen someone so totally consumed with bitterness, rage and, well, just plain ugliness. 
posts are vile and hateful
Your posts are vile and hateful..I really truly dont know why you defend Bennetts comments cause they are indefensible..and now we come to this..poverty and crime..this is getting uglier and uglier and I will not respond..
Yes, Sam -these people are vicious and hateful.
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It IS hateful and it IS totally unnecessary

As a Christian, I personally find it offensive, hateful, rude and totally unnessary.


Hateful because it implies that the atheists or whoever wrote the sign has the handle on "good," as in "just be good for goodness sake."  Rude because it implies that people who believe in God are not as smart as they are.  Totally UNNECESSARY.  No one forces anyone to believe in God and you have NO right to try to ram your nonbelief down my throat.  If you want to put a Hannakuh or however you spell it, tree or whatever next to the Nativity scene, fine, that is not offensive.  OTH atheists believe in  nothing so what the heck are they protesting?  Do they also protest every commercian Santa Claus becaue "THEY" don't believe in Santa Claus?  This  politically correct cr*p has gotten completely out of hand.


It IS hateful and it IS totally unnecessary

As a Christian, I personally find it offensive, hateful, rude and totally unnessary.


Hateful because it implies that the atheists or whoever wrote the sign has the handle on "good," as in "just be good for goodness sake."  Rude because it implies that people who believe in God are not as smart as they are.  Totally UNNECESSARY.  No one forces anyone to believe in God and you have NO right to try to ram your nonbelief down my throat.  If you want to put a Hannakuh or however you spell it, tree or whatever next to the Nativity scene, fine, that is not offensive.  OTH atheists believe in  nothing so what the heck are they protesting?  Do they also protest every commercian Santa Claus becaue "THEY" don't believe in Santa Claus?  This  politically correct cr*p has gotten completely out of hand.


Funny how you don't think Mrs. M comments above are hateful..nm

Me too... boo hoo. How I shall miss the hateful left.
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Some of the most bitter and hateful people I have
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Bitter, hateful and jealous? (sm)

You must be kidding.


Problems that dems have:


8 years of failed economic and foreign policy, a president who ignored the warnings for 9/11 as well as warnings of an economic meltdown, thousands of unnecessary deaths because of a cowboy mentality, war crimes instituted by the highest offices in the US, civil liberties taken away, right of privacy taken away, a barrage of last minute policies that negatively impact the environment, social well-being, and who knows what else.  And this is just the tip of the iceburg.  We are still paying for all of these actions, not only financially as well as with our country's reputation, but most importantly with lives. 


Problems that pubs have:


Obama is the President-Elect and you guys are worried because of rumors about what he MIGHT do.


HMMMMMM.....


He is extremely hateful. Why would Obama go to
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The guy has said a list of hateful garbage.
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as said: jealous and hateful losers...nm
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this is not hateful, it is just an analysis and the truth...nm
I cannot believe the B* that is posted by the Rep on the Politics Board, especially the last 2 days, this has gone INSANE !
gourdpainter...
We just finished a study of Revelation at our church. In the part you were talking about, "one man rising to lead them" it also says he will be diverse from the rest. He will be well liked, and many people will come to believe he is a "messiah".

Read this site just for face value, and just tell me if it doesn't make you cringe, just a bit.

http://www.theprophecies.com/antichrist.html

I pray that we do get our hiney's raptured right out of here before everything really goes down.
Oh please, gourdpainter.
Are you insinuating that Christianity is the only religion that believes in basic human values? Do you really think that anyone who is not a Christian automatically condones raping, killing, stealing, lying, or anything like it? We all have rights in this country, even minorities!
So okay, put it under gourdpainter
I'll stand by what I say.  LOL
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Gourdpainter!
This man and the running mate he has chosen (which I bet now he is regretting) scare me to death.  I have never in my life witnessed so much lying, hypocrisy and lack of integrity that these two people have have shown.  Anyone watching his face as he speaks would have to see the glaringly clear dishonesty of this man!
Gourdpainter, why do you believe that?
I am just wondering why you feel so sure that McCain is going to win...