Sick of your insults - stop with the name calling
Posted By: Kaydie on 2008-11-01
In Reply to: You rabid republicans need to - gourdpainter
I'm sick of hearing "rabid republicans". You've said it in more than one or two posts. We have objective conversations on this board, but you don't want to hear anything that differs from your viewpoint. And whenever we bring up anything positive about McCain we are instantly cut down and called a bunch of names. All you want is to hear everyone praise Obama. We know you support Obama and in your own words "I don't. Big deal". The media is biased towards Obama and independent newcasters have even said so (and not on Fox only). However, Fox news interviews both sides and they are fair to both sides (and at least they look everyone in the eye - unlike liberals who interview McCain and won't even look at him). We understand the Obama supporters refuse to watch Fox because all they want to hear is praise for Obama and insults and cut downs for McCain. There is no tolerance on MSNBC, CNN and others liberal stations for anyone with a difference of opinions and nobody can have a decent conversation with them. I stopped watching a long time ago (and I was an avid watcher for the past 8 years but the constant put downs and lies just got to be too much).
I get a bit tired of hearing the same ol retoric of the republicans this or the republicans that and the "rabid republics". I have a few names myself for the other side but at least I have some respect for people with other viewpoints than my own. I listen, I research and if I ever find myself wrong I admit it. I find no tolerance on the democratic side with the exception of a few. I have relatives who are voting for Obama and you ask them what part of his plan do they support the most and they cannot tell you. They want to change the subject. That's what I find about most Obama supporters. Most cannot even explain what his plans are. Most keep shouting the same party line "Hope" hope, hope, hope, hope. Hope for what? Obama has not even explained what the "hope" is and nobody else can. Change? Change what? Change our constitution? Change our way of life? Change is not always for the better. "Yes we can". Yes you can what? Nobody can explain that either. The republicans at least have the foresight to know what McCains plans are about. The democrats in Washington have messed up the economy and they don't even have the you know what to admit it. They know it too. The republicans will be the first to admit its both sides fault because it is, the democrats just like to throw blame to the other side, but we all know the truth.
As for McCain getting in...we are all hoping that will happen and nobody will know til Tuesday.
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Can you stop with the name calling please?
The moderator asked that we be respectful, and "ignorant conservatives" is far from that. Branding a whole group of people based on the way one person posts shows very little tolerance on your part. I thought liberals were supposed to be tolerant and believe in the rights of EVERYONE...EVEN...GASP...OH NO...conservatives!!! You do not sound very tolerant and you walked ALL OVER this poster's rights. I guess it is a case of Do as I say...not as I do? It kinda makes any statement or point you wished to make here ring very hollow...at least in this ignorant conservative's view.
Can we stop with the name calling?
Just because you do not agree does not make the poster ignorant. Condescending, to say the least.
Obama's message of empathy is redistribution of wealth. Socialism 101. Why do you think because someone has been successful that obligates them to pay more than anyone else? If you check on a lot of those so-called rich, they give more heavily to charitable organizations, establish foundations, etc. They don't horde it all and count it daily and laugh maniacally because they have it and you don't. Class envy is a nasty, nasty thing.
Why not a flat tax? Ten percent across the board, we ALL pay it. THAT is fair. The rich already pay over 90% of ALL taxes in the coffers. Even THAT is not enough for you.
Perhaps Obama could keep his girls out of camp one year and put that 10 grand toward helping some of the less fortunate. Let him lead by example. Ah...but don't hold your breath. And it is not just Obama...any Dem. Lead by example...cut them a check every month, right of the top of your wages.
It is very naive to suggest that corruption resides only on the republican side. The Clintons have run corrupt administrations from Arkansas right on up. I refer you to the hail mary pardons, travelgate, whitewater, and on and on and on and on. If you are going to accuse, you should accuse across the board.
Another very naive point..stopping nuclear proliferation. It is NOT going to happen. It cannot happen. For it to happen, all parties have to be on board. Russia will never surrender its nukes. Iran will never surrender its nukes. If Israel ever surrenders it's nukes, they have signed their death warrant. Can we not be realistic about this??
Do you EVER stop the name-calling?
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well....I stop short of calling him the....
antichrist. But the fact that seemingly intelligent people lose all sense of reason when he opens his mouth does give one pause. That's for sure.
This has George Soros written ALL over it.
Yeah - what she said - stop calling
people liars. Boo-hoo mission accomplished.
Hint...Stop using 6th grade name calling and people might actually take you
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Stop the juvenile name calling and refute what I post....
if you can.
Name calling? Point out 1 instance of "nasty name calling" in response to your posts
Your childlike accusations are patently false - but you are indeed welcome to your own opinion. I just don't have to agree.
Ah, more insults
is that all you can do?
Keep your insults
I did not bother to read past the first 3 lines of your post because you began your response by misinterpreting my post and you apparently are interested only in inflammatory response. It is the value of basic humanity I was referring to. Many of us remember a kinder and gentler America, more unified, an America where taking care of each other is not perceived as some sort of weakness or threat to our American values or way of life. Also, you do not understand the difference between democratic platform principles and socialist ideology. They are not the same.
Time for new insults. These are getting old!
Your *information* was filled with insults...sm
Sorry I don't meet your level of debate.
Maybe she just had her fill of insults from the other side
Another lib's perspective.
When did "conservative" and "liberal" become insults?
It seems to serve the purposes of politicians very well to encourage their followers to label, demonize and fear those who belong to "the other" party, and to paint them all with whatever nutty ideas the true extremists in the other party happen to believe.
The truth is that most "ordinary" Democrats are only a little more liberal than most "ordinary" Republicans, and vice versa, but we are encouraged to hate one another because this serves the purposes of the parties. Politics has become not a matter of which party offers the most persuasive platform of positive ideas, but seeing who can create the largest howling, mindless mob.
Put your "everyday" Democrat and Republican in a room together attending some nonpolitical function - say, for instance, a baby shower or a choir practice. They don't happen to know which party anyone belongs to. What kinds of things do you hear them talking about? What aspirations do you hear them express? You'll be amazed at how much they have in common, sharing concerns for good schools, safe streets, job security, affordable healthcare, and many other issues. The Democrat will be no happier about the increase in the sales tax than the Republican, and the Republican will agree that the current system of healthcare leaves too many people without options.
You're a liberal, and I'll bet that you're a moderate liberal. I'm a conservative, but I'm a moderate conservative. If we could get together outside of Washington, we'd probably come to some pretty workable, livable and even affordable solutions to the common problems that we all share.
Let's recognize what's happening to us as those in power in Washington find it useful for us to hate one another. Let's resist. And let's all see if we can't find some moderates in both parties that we can send to Washington who will truly represent who the American people truly are and what the American people truly believe when we refuse to be manipulated into positions of hatred toward one another.
Your insults persist, is your mind so tiny that you
..can't seem to debate or discuss? So you pile on more bashing and insults? You must be a very unpleasant person.
And by the way, I am an athlete and a weightlifter and my boyfriend says that with my mouth I don't need the muscle behind it. I am definitely not a sissy. Most of my liberal friends are athletes also and are definitely not sissies and we're not a bunch of fatsos either. As for AG stating that it must "stink to be" us, well she's wrong. It's actually really great! Many of the libs in the blue states are among the most educated, best paid, longest-living and healthiest and SLIMMEST folks, we're likely to stay married and we generally smoke less. So AG, you got it wrong about it stinking to be us -- kind of an unworldly and naive and cruel comment, I'd say.
Please point out the insults and I will address those posts. sm
In reading the board, I am not sure who the one poster you are referring to is. As far as Nina's post, I saw no insults. Please point them out. Until a poster identifies themselves as a certain political persuasian, how do you know who they are? I'd like a clue.
Those ain't insults, they are observations! Man you guys R thin-skinned! LOL! NM
Insults do not an effective campaign strategy make.
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I will not stop trying to stop the slaughter of the unborn in this country...
I never said you were a stupid wretch. What I said was, if you can watch that video below and not feel something, your heart must be seared over. If you can watch that video and advocate what you advocate, yes, I'm sorry, I find that cold. I am entitled to my opinion and all your ranting and name calling and belitting is not going to change that. Someone needs to speak for the child. You certainly aren't allowing it any rights, including the right to live. You are okay with that, I'm not.
Certified graduate of the *How to Insult like a kindergartener* school of insults. SM
Wow, the vitriolic statements, insults, and downright hate being shown....sm
 on this board today (not unlike any other day, really), is amazing. Okay, we all have our ideals, our belief system, etc. But this board is a sad, tragic, IF very minute microcosm of why this country is so far in the dirt.........educated adults who will hate, insult, stamp their feet, stick out their tongues, and spew garbage rhetoric, RATHER THAN join with the country, the new president, the senate, congress, etc., and try to be part of the SOLUTION instead of the PROBLEM. We will NEVER fix this country, whether we have a democrat, republican, or independent in office, with pure hate and spite. This is a chance for a new start. Why not wait and see, why not pray for the president, teh cabinet, the Congress, and the whole nation, and try to work in our own ways for change. While we are busy hating each other, we are strengthening the real enemies out there who truly want to harm us. Everybody grow up. Both my parents went through the Great Depression, and I grew up knowing and seeing it written on their faces just how awful it was to try to live through. Instead of arguing and namecalling while the country teeters on the egde, why not TRY, why not wait to see before condemnining, why not see what each one of us, in our little lives, can do to help???
It is cold comfort to point fingers and laugh at the "other side" when both sides are falling into the abyss that is the growing national debt, growing unemployment, plunging stock market, while still mired in wars we cannot pay for. Discussing political ideologies, hopes, fears, and issues is great, pure scathing hate and animosity will insure more failure. Can you all not put our beautiful country ahead of everything else, the future of our kids and grandkids, stop childish fighting, and become part of the SOLUTION instead of the PROBLEM? Please?
So when the terrorists come, you'll just say STOP or I'll say STOP again? nm
sick?
It is YOU who is coming off as sick..in the soul and psyche..Check yourself..Look into yourself..You are the one who is sick..
not sick of it at all
Its fascinating and I look forward to developing News. It is so much more important than what the girls on the Hills are wearing or who is dating who. If I was sick of it, I just would not come to a politic board though.
I do not want anything more. Whatever. Just sick
of the whole thing. So frustrated. Not sure what to believe or who to trust. I have stated this before, I do not trust either of them. McCain or Obama. Neither of them know what they are doing. I want to hear facts about what they are going to do to help the ECONOMY. That is the most important thing right now, not who Obama knows, etc. etc. The whole campaign has gotten hateful and turning me OFF. It is just wonderful to hear McCain supporters yelling "Kill him" (meaning Obama) at his rallies. What a country. GEEZ
you are sick?
Well I am sick of every time a Christian even MENTIONS their belief, people just automatically ASSUME that someone is trying to shove religion down their throat. At the first mention of any ACCOUNTABILITY in this world, then all of a sudden I am a Bible thumping fanatic. I am sick of MY RIGHTS for freedom of religion and freedom of speech being trampled all over by atheists, Muslims and any body who thinks that Christianity is wrong. I have rights too and I am ALLOWED to say that homosexuality is a sin and so is murder and so is racism. I am ALLOWED to say OUT LOUD that gay marriages are againts God. And by the way, this country was FOUNDED on Christian principles with God in our constitution, in our pledge of allegiance, on our money, and then this country becomes so politically correct it is all taken out. That goes against MY RIGHTS. I am sick of hearing all the new age blah blah blah that states there is no God or god is in everyone crap. So if I have to listen to YOU then I guess you have to listen to ME.
That is sick, would never wish for that. However, the
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That's almost as sick as...(sm)
priests molesting little boys. The church operated w/o government regulations over this sort of thing for how long? -- Your post exemplifies the idea of christianity. -- Let's point a finger and induce guilt. Oh, and by the way, you might want to check on how those children who were put up for adoption are getting along. They don't all go to those nice, loving homes you talk about. A large majority grow up bouncing from foster parent to foster parent or in orphanages, halfway houses and the like. Yeah, their future looks bright. Geeez.
FOR THE SICK.....(sm)
I thought I would post this as a helpful hint for those of you who are being sickened by the celebration that is being covered on TV. I understand that this sickness has some very compelling side effects, such as making the affected post derogatory comments on message boards. It seems to have turned into an epidemic. Thankfully there are people like myself who are concerned for those of you with the sickness. I have studied it and have come to the scientific conclusion that there is only one definitive cure:
TURN OFF THE TV
How sick is this?
A philadelphia, PA abortion clinic is going to offer free abortions (murders) in "honor" of george tiller, the murdered abortionist. This country has become so depraved that we honor a killing by killing others (babies nonetheless; the most helpless in our society)!!!
What a sick bunch of people!
What's even more sick...(sm)
is that a right-wing anti-abortion group wants to buy Tiller's building and set up a memorial for Tiller's killer.
sick to death
And..in the midst of all this chaos, when IMHO, no one should feel like partying, vacationing..we should be worrying and doing whatever we can..but in the midst..where is Condoleezza? Why, on a two day vacation in NYC, taking in Spamalot, the broadway show..chuckling it up, while New Orleans burns and people die. A witness said people were shocked to see her enjoying herself at the theatre when parts of her country are descending into madness. Then she went to Ferragammo (spell?) and was buying shoes for a few thousand dollars. Someone walked up to her and started telling her off, about how could she party when America is in such pain. She called security over and had the woman evicted..such is how OUR SERVANTS act, like they are king and queen. I mean, come on, even if you couldnt care less about what is going down, show a little respect and stay home until this is under control..FEMA should have gotten planes and aid out the very next morning to the gulf region, Bush knew this was gonna be a bad storm..he could have had the planes loaded up and waiting for the next morning after the storm..but, as is usual with this administration, Bush and his cohorts wait until chaos, as in Iraq, and then he acts but then it is too late. Well, the other day I posted how one day the masses will have their backs up against the wall and American politicians will have to create programs and help them..I see a minor version of what I was posting about..and, like that song says..*when you aint got nothing, you got nothing to lose*. This is an extremely dire situation..If the people in the gulf region dont calm down and get things under control on their own, the police and other authorities will not be able to, unless they shoot them all..and that will put blood on their hands and Bush's hands for not acting fast enough to show these poor people, that the govt cares..I am sick to my stomach over the evolving situation.Bush's approval is at 46%, just wait it will be even lower next time a poll is taken..
Sick of it too, but the Democrats are no different. sm
Of the main candidates, our choices are a socialist, a Marxist, and a fascist. Which one do you think is not going to tax our eyeballs out, or force us further and further into a control grid? Obama sounds like the least harmful, but the only thing he is going to change is his mind. My vote goes to NOTA (none of the above).
Sick to death of it all.......
Is anyone else just really tired of this election and all the crap that goes along with it? I'm so sick and tired of political parties. I'm tired of the families of the candidates being targets. I'm tired of the mud flinging. I think I'm going to take a break from all the political hoopla.
do you ever get sick of seeing your own posts?
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I say what I think is sacred, you dont have to agree with me just as i dont have to agree with YOU. get over yourself!
I can understand you being sick of it....
but this crisis we find ourselves COULD have been avoided, and only the republicans have been trying to head it off. That is a fact. I confirmed every fact in that video. I did not take it at face value either. But you see that the Democrats, who own the responsibility, are saying "We had absolutely nothing to do with this and accept no responsibility." That kind of bald face lying, when I know better because they have them on video defending them for Pete's sake...that kind of calculated BS'ing of their own constituents...is beyond the pale. And if you look at some of these posts...people BELIEVE them. Even faced with irrefutable evidence...believe them and try to spin it. Amazing. I don't have a party horse in this race so it really does not matter to me...if the faces and facts in that video had pointed to Republicans I would be condemning them instead!
And then, to add insult to injury, they try to funnel 20% of any profits that may eventually come of this bailout to ACORN and a few other outfits who encouraged these lenders to make the bad loans. And the party faithful still stick by them.
Amazing! Just freaking amazing.
both make me sick
Ya know, I never was thrilled with Obama to begin with and I was not too thrilled with McCain during the primaries but I will admit he started to grow on me. Now with them both voting yes on this bailout bill, I'm literally sick. I agree SOMETHING needs to be done but one would think they could come up with something waaaayyy better than what they have. McCain has truly disappointed me.  No wonder people get so discouraged they stay away from the polls.
sick of hearing he was
only 8 years old when Ayers was making bombs. I was about 8 when Charles Manson and his goons killed Sharon Tate and others. I don't feel like sending old Charley a birthday card let alone sitting in his living room or jailcell in his case.As far as I am concerned Ayers should be in jail too!
If you are sick of it, then why don't you quit
going to get rich somehow with Obama in the White House. This stuff doesn't happen overnight.
Furthermore anyone with a 401K or stocks know that there is a downside. You don't always win... So who is looking for free money now? Oh the stock holders are?????? These are the same people that live the good life. Well too bad! You lose because you put your faith in the stock market... Oh well.. Do I feel pity? Nope. Not when there are people struggling just to make minimum wage.
I was born with no money in my hand and I'll die with no money in my hand. Makes no difference to me really.
Anyone with any sense knows "you can't take it with ya'." Savor the moment.
All of you republicans out there that think McCain is going to somehow turn this country around are in for a big shock when he gets in there. The joke is on him. He thinks this Palin person is going to get him in, and he's oh so wrong! I have to wonder if he really is demented. Really?????
You're Sick!
Get off my back. HATER!!!
I am sick and tired
of minorities forcing their beliefs on the majority. Someone said if you don't like sex, etc on TV in magazines or whatever, don't read them. I say if people don't like our Christianity, then don't listen to it or look at it.
sick....not sice..........duh! LOL nm
How do you know if a dove is sick or not?...nm
I could never eat something that I killed, that I saw alive and then it lies dead on my plate! No!
Like people going to fish restaurants where they approach an aquarium and pick a fish (or lobster) that swims around and say: 'That one!"
It gives me the creeps.
It's a sad day. I feel sick.
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Yup - sick of the whole lot of them (no message)
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No, I am beyond sick and tired of
ignorant posts like this that pollute this board. I respond in kind, dear. You put it out there and you get it back. Insults in, insults out. That's how it works. Put up something intelligent and well informed in the spirit of viable political debate and you might be suprised at what comes back your way.
You'd be wrong about how my party and I are feeling right about now. You cannot begin to know how liberating it is to witness this inauguration after the 8 years of torture and oppression we have endured under the fuhrer. I am so excited I can hardly contain myself, haven't felt this good in years, looking forward to tomorrow and tomorrow's tomorrows, unlike the obamaknockers who see nothing but gloom, doom, Armageddon and (yawn) Apocalypse every time they turn around. Thank goodness what you got I can't get. Try as you will, your hatred is not contagious.
I am so sick of this argument
All that clause means is that their will be no state sponsored religion - like saying everyone has to be Baptist or Lutheran or Catholic. It had nothing to do with taking God out of the white house or supreme court or anywhere else! The only reason that happened is because Christians just sat by and didn't say anything while everyone else whined about it and now it's too late to reverse all that because the mindset now is "oh we have to have separation of church and state!"
Of course as greedy and grimy as politicians are these days they probably feel better thinking that God doesn't pay attention to politics!
Here's some quotes from the founding fathers:
William Bradford
• wrote that they [the Pilgrims] were seeking:
• 1) "a better, and easier place of living”; and that “the children of the group were being drawn away by evil examples into extravagance and dangerous courses [in Holland]“
• 2) “The great hope, and for the propagating and advancing the gospel of the kingdom of Christ in those remote parts of the world"
John Adams and John Hancock:
We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus! [April 18, 1775]
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --October 11, 1798
“The Law given from Sinai [The Ten Commandments] was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code.”
John Quincy Adams. Letters to his son. p. 61
Benjamin Franklin: | Portrait of Ben Franklin
“ God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel” –Constitutional Convention of 1787 | original manuscript of this speech
In Benjamin Franklin's 1749 plan of education for public schools in Pennsylvania, he insisted that schools teach "the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern."
Patrick Henry:
"Orator of the Revolution."
• This is all the inheritance I can give my dear family. The religion of Christ can give them one which will make them rich indeed.”
—The Last Will and Testament of Patrick Henry
Thomas Jefferson:
“ The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend to all the happiness of man.”
“Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern which have come under my observation, none appears to me so pure as that of Jesus.”
"I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."
Article 22 of the constitution of Delaware (1776)
Required all officers, besides taking an oath of allegiance, to make and subscribe to the following declaration:
• "I, [name], do profess faith in God the Father, and in Jesus Christ His only Son, and in the Holy Ghost, one God, blessed for evermore; and I do acknowledge the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testament to be given by divine inspiration."
Makes me sick
I live in NY State and he makes me sick too. Do you know he actually said that the American people do not care about pork in the stimulus package. I sent him an email and said that I can and of course got no response at all from his office.
It's one of those things that is so sick
it doesn't deserve the attention it's getting.
Well then.....i'm sick and tired
of constantly seeing black celebs on TV talking about no more white lies because they now have a black president. All I've seen on TV since the inaguration are black people rejoicing because it seems they believe Obama will put all the crackers in their place now. it is sickening. I get so sick and tired of hearing about how prejudice white people are when there sounds to me like there are just as many black people spreading the hate around as well. I see this comic as calling them stupid just like when they used the monkey with Bush.
I don't know how many black musicians I've heard on TV shouting f*ck white people....we have a black president now. But you don't hear the media calling them out and talking about how disgraceful that is. Oh no. You don't hear them discussing such obscene things on The View. the double standards in racism never ceases to amaze me. You don't dare use the N word (which I never would anyway) but it is quite alright for a black person to say f*ck white people. It is okay for a black church to be strictly black and be total for the black community, etc but if a white church did that....it would be labeled as the KKK.
He makes me sick too
He just loves to hear himself talk and it's all talk!
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