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I am afraid he is going to let people down, already starting.

Posted By: middle class on 2008-10-31
In Reply to: Hope - shelly

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/obama-lays-plans-kill-expectations-election-victory/


Obama plans to kill expectations.




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I think there are a lot of people who are starting to...sm
feel just as you do. I have gotten to the point where I just don't have the time or the energy to answer some of the ridiculous accusations against Obama.

I realize that Obama is not perfect, none of us is, and in the course of campaigning the truth gets stretched on both sides. However, never have I seen the like of the untrue garbage being spewed with such hate as this campaign by the republican party. It seems that the more desperate the campaign gets the worse and the more laughable the accusations get. One big thing that I have gotten from this campaign, as well as the financial meltdown, is that the people in control think that the rest of us are stupid and will buy anything they dish out to us. There are actually people that think everything that is on the internet is true. Not true! We need to keep questioning everything and hold our politicians feet to the fire, look for reliable sources of information not just ones that tell us what we want to hear, double check everything, and, lastly, try to be nicer to each other. Amen.
People are starting to see that the amazing O
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people are starting to pay attention. Obama's lead
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Wrong. People are afraid to question O about
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and steal another 700 billion! Be afraid, be very afraid. nm
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Be afraid.........be veerrrry afraid. n/m LOL
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And I am just starting, and the Big O just
one more brainwash session. It's a good thing he is depending on the young folks for his votes!
and I was just starting to like the guy
what with all his stories of cowboys and Mandela and movies and all that. He'll be hosting a show on Fox next, you watch.
I am really starting to think all you have to do to get
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Starting a world war?
No, your President is doing that for you. 
I thought most were starting to know better than this. sm
1000 lies later and you still believe the bull. McCain is Bush on steroids. No wonder everybody is calling Americans a bunch of sheep. All I can say is you will get what you deserve. The "free" will not be around much longer, and you will not have money either once the economy crashes,and it will.
hil's starting to look a lot like Huckabee
her best hope is to be Obama's VP at this point.  I think with that ticket they would be unstoppable
Thanks sam - at least I have a starting point - nm
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Thugocracy is starting already...nm

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Looks like the fights are already starting in the WH

between Pelosi and the O.


"The California Democrat is pushing the president-elect to make good on a campaign promise that attracted some of the harshest criticism during the election -- that Mr. Obama is a typical tax-and-spend Democrat who would raise taxes once in office.


Mr. Obama has fought that label, emphasizing that any tax increase would be directed at those making more than $250,000. However, since the election, Mr. Obama has been reluctant even to raise taxes on people making that much.


Lawrence Summers, Mr. Obama's choice for director of the National Economic Council, signaled again Sunday that repealing the Bush tax cuts would not be a priority.


"Our overall focus is going to be on increasing spending," Mr. Summers said in a broadcast interview. "Beyond that, there's going to be a substantial tax cut for the American people."


See article.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123229863849393891.html


OMG. JTBB, I'm starting to believe

you're a blind dem. The aboe poster stated his/her thoughts and most of them are true to form. If you don't belive in your country, you are not patriotic. Just because some of us don't believe O is going to do a good job is not a reason to call someone a loon.


I decided, after he was elected, to give him a chance, bvut all I can see is that he is digging us deeper in the hole. I though the bill passed the other day would help some people who were in deep trouble even though they did everything right, would get help...but, again, O is just helping the people who really didn't deserve help. I think you should wake up and start reading a bit more and/or listening a bit more to those who know what is really going on in this country.


A bit of advice... if you have any money in your bank over $100K, you best get it out of there. Although the FDIC is promising a guarantee up to $250K temporarily, the money will not be guaranteed if the country goes broke IMHO.


 


Starting at the top and working their way down........sm
the Bill of Rights? If the government can do this, you can well believe they can strip other religious freedoms and move right on down the line to the right to bear arms and whatever else they would like to strip away. Thomas Jefferson said it best (loosely quoted) - "A government that is big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to can take everything you have."
Starting to understand, yes, why O got in.
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Why don't you find it for yourself, starting with the
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How about apologizing for starting...(sm)

a needless war and trying to drag Europe into it?  Showing pics of soldiers graves does nothing but bring to mind the effects of waging this unjust war.  How about apologizing for not doing something about our economy until it was too late (which affected the whole world)?


So, you are defending what?  Bush's war on terror/axis of evil?  Torture?  Lying to the American public as well as the UN?  Or perhaps our inadequacy in successfully handling our economy since the start of the Reagan era?


Conservative starting trouble
It is obvious this is a conservative trying to start trouble on the liberal board.  Who cares what you think about Senator Clinton?  Cast your vote and lets see how the country thinks..A level headed calm thinking democrat or a rash testosterone so out of touch with reality dangerous republican.  Oprah had a show on universal health insurance a few weeks ago and a professor was on and stated that when the conservatives want to scare the people or distract from programs to benefit the people, they say it is socialism.  Well, what I want to know is, what do you call the health insurance program the Congress has?  That most definitely is government health insurance, so I guess socialism?.  Well, if it is good enough for the Congress, it is good enough for the people. What do you call the govt programs that build bridges, roads, dams, run schools, etc., etc., etc..?  Socialism?  The govt must help the people of this country.  We pay our taxes and we have a right to govt programs to better the lives of the people of America.  I am so sick of conservatives and thankfully most of America is too.
That's like starting a forum for pet lovers

And then saying they can only talk about pets they don't have any more, not their current ones!  Or a car enthusiasts forum where people can only speak of vehicles they used to own, not what they currently drive. 


What's the point in this forum, then, to only talk about the future or the past, not the present?  How ridiculous!


i like the idea of starting at the bottom
giving the common people a break rather than sticking us from behind. I don't know what the monetary amount should be per mortgage. I heard Whoopi this morning throwing out the idea of 25% to the people who have taken out mortgages since 2003. One of the gals on the view also talked about these people who were given these loans that were very low interest at the beginning and then after a few years had the interest raised. Why can't the mortgage companies offer them a lower interest rate again? At least they would be getting something!! They are all greedy. I think the idea of bailing the mortgage companies out is disgusting. I realize people should never get in over their heads to begin with but these mortgage companies and any government official who had a hand in it were out for themselves, thinking in the end they were going to win..... no loss to them.... well guess what? they got a little too greedy and I think rather than slapping their little hands, THEY should be the ones to pay the price. I don't care if it's Rush's idea, Whoopi's, etc... How about for once our government listens to the PEOPLE of this country rather than looking out for their own butts.
Ohio is already starting to vote
Just heard on the news that in Ohio they have already starting holding the election and people can vote for president.  I don't know who this benefits and don't care at this point, but I thought election day was 11/4.  Can someone explain why people are allowed to vote ahead of time.
Starting at the community level......... sm
is a great thing to do and I am proud of you for the work you do. I have read here before some of the things you are involved in, and you are making a difference in your community. I'll be right here, ready and willing! LOL
It's a meltdown, and heads are starting

to explode!


Takes Americans a while, but they are starting to
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Oh, I am afraid I do. And please tell me sm

how you know that I am a Christian?  You are ignorant beyond belief.  The Israelis are furious about the Gaza pull out and rightly so.  Hamas has already said it is only the beginning and Jerusalem will be next.  Do you read anything at all?   This is news right out of Jerusalem.  You are going on what you have been spoon-fed by the media. That's too bad. And by the way, politics has nothing to do what alignment with the Jews and their plight against Hamas.  You should have figured that out by now. 


FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU
Palestinian Authority
greenlights terror ops

'Resistance' against Israel discussed in meeting with Hamas, Jihad





Posted: August 25, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern



By Aaron Klein




© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com


TEL AVIV – Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei and members of various Palestinian terror groups this week decided at a meeting "resistance" against Israel would continue and would be coordinated at the national level until the Jewish state evacuates "all territories," WND has learned.

Earlier this week, it was reported Qurei held a private conference in Damascus with leaders of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. According to media reports, the parties reached an agreement under which the PA would not attempt to disarm the terror groups in spite of recent U.S. and Israeli calls for the groups to be dismantled after the Gaza evacuation.




But security sources close to the meeting told WND agreements reached at the conference went one step further – it was concluded the Palestinians would continue to use "resistance" against Israel until the Jewish state leaves "all occupied territories" – code for the destruction of Israel. The resistance, the sources said, is to be coordinated between the Palestinian groups and based on the foundations of Palestinian unity.

Qurei also allegedly discussed other ways of cooperating with the terror groups after Israel's Gaza evacuation is completed, and stressed that the focus of the Palestinian struggle must be turned to the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem

Said a security source, "Just the fact alone that the PA won't disarm the terrorists is already a green light to go ahead with attacks. But there is information the idea of future attacks were discussed and encouraged."

The revelations are significant. Since Mahmoud Abbas assumed control of the Palestinian government following the death last year of PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat, the P.A. has been careful not to publicly endorse terrorism.

Islamic Jihad Chairman Ramadan Shalah yesterday echoed the alleged conclusions of the Qurei meeting in an interview he gave in Arabic to Al-Jazeera.

"We reached an agreement regarding a common strategy based on the premise that the resistance was a strategic option which should not be interfered with and which had to continue on a foundation of Palestinian national unity," Shalah said.

Shalah stressed the PA had agreed not to disarm his group "as long as Palestinian land was occupied."

At a press conference held after the meeting, Musa Abu Marzuq, a member of Hamas' political office, stated, "The real battle with Israel was on the West Bank. ... We hope there will be no disagreement with the Palestinian Authority regarding the weapon of resistance, because as long as the occupation exists the weapon must exist."

The same day Hamas, Islamic Jihad and local terror groups including the Democratic Front and the Jerusalem Battalions held competing parades in which each claimed their violence drove Israel out of the Gaza Strip.


Several thousand Palestinians attended a Hamas rally in Gaza and a separate victory procession in Nablus in which Hamas flags and models of the Temple Mount were waved, and mock tanks, rockets and even houses of Jewish settlers were displayed.

Hundreds reportedly attended a rally in Khan Yunis led by the Democratic Front, and about one thousand Palestinians marched in a Jerusalem Battalions victory procession in Rafah.

Afterward, the Battalions held a press conference in which a spokesman stressed his group's determination to "do whatever it took" to liberate the "rest of our land," including kidnapping Israelis and committing "resistance attacks."


I'm afraid you won't get your wish
Conservatives will continue to defend the most defenseless including but not limited to unborn babies.
No, I am afraid I don't.

And they are afraid of a man who...
might make their lives a little easier!  Obama wants to stop giving tax breaks to companies who offshore and the majority of the MTs on this board are going to vote against him.  Vote against Obama and you vote against yourselves too.   Obama is against offshoring.  He wants to keep it in America.  Yet, all you anti-Obama's call him un-American.  Obviously we all have more time to sit on this board and talk politics than work.  That is because we have less and less work.  Where do you think our work is going?  We are a dying breed.  Wake-up and smell the coffee!
to be afraid of...?
C'est LA vie.
Would you say that McCain is charismatic?
Definitely not.
He is just the Republican candidate.
Kerry had the same problem, he was too rigid.

Be afraid. Be very afraid! nm
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They're not happy unless they are starting trouble.

They don't want to debate.  All they want to do is attack and chase away people who don't agree with them.  They don't want liberals on their board, but they refuse to practice what they preach. 


This is the reason the administrator created a conservative and liberal board.  They have their own board, but that's not enough for them.  It's typical of how they must control everyone's thoughts and deeds and even which God they worship.


Cat-food's starting to look good. When that runs

I'm starting to feel a little cranky towards these folks

The Mormon Church.


I came across this article last night:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/11/11/baptizing.dead.jews.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview


NEW YORK (AP) -- Holocaust survivors said Monday they are through trying to negotiate with the Mormon church over posthumous baptisms of Jews killed in Nazi concentration camps, saying the church has repeatedly violated a 13-year-old agreement barring the practice.


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In 1995, Mormons and Jews inked an agreement to limit the circumstances that allow for the proxy baptisms of Holocaust victims. Ending the practice outright was not part of the agreement and would essentially be asking Mormons to alter their beliefs, church Elder Lance B. Wickman said Monday in an interview with reporters in Salt Lake City.


We don't think any faith group has the right to ask another to change its doctrines," Wickman said. "If our work for the dead is properly understood ... it should not be a source of friction to anyone. It's merely a freewill offering."


The Mormon Church was also a major financial backer (I think THE major financial backer) of California Prop 8.


I am fully in favor of any religion observing their own doctrine within the bounds of the law. However, I also believe that their doctrine should be theirs and theirs alone. It cannot be an excuse or a reason for infringing on the civil or religious rights of others.


I'm starting to think you're punking us all, JTBB.
Really, fess up. You're just doing this for a laught, right? I mean, if you believed even 1/100th of the crappola you post here, you'd have to be either the most cultified brainwashed half-wit, or Obama's secret love child with a daddy fetish that's off the charts.

Everything O does makes you wet yourself with glee.

Anytime someone points out a legitimate beef with O, you become this juvenile neener-neener playground kid. Your arguments have absolutely no substance, yet you squat on plain hard facts when they are presented in a reasonable manner.

Or maybe you're just really, really high up in Oblahma's confidentiality circle. Like the Czar of MT Mesage Board Enlightenment or something. Do you get a twitter from the oval O every morning with the day's 'talking points' or something?

I'd love to introduce you to a certain lady on the message boards of the company I work for. She's an outright nutjob, and her parroted words are nearly identical to yours. Every time someone says, 'hey, whatever happened to that whole transparency thing' or 'didn't he say he was going to cut the pork and work across the aisle' she barks out the old Leftist Lunatic Word-A-Day calendar and spiels her precooked rant. (Her current fad is waterboarding.)

Oh, oh, I know! Maybe you're just a little bitty ACORN who hopes to grow up into a big bushy tree one day. Is that it? Honestly, I want to know. Cause, in all honesty, if you were actually SERIOUS about the junk you post here, you'd be a really, REALLY scary person.

Please just assure us all you're just havin' a laugh, and then we can all laugh along. You can't possibly be a mean-spirited as you come off in your posts. No one can, right?

Maybe you should spend more time hugging puppies or treat yourself to a nice ice-cream cone or something. You know? Lighten up and enjoy life. At this point, you're about the only one left dragging around that tired old YES WE CAN sign, and it must get awful heavy.

I'm sending happy thoughts your way.
I guess they're afraid of
kids being influenced and maybe going out and doing random acts of kindness.....
Nope, afraid we can't

as long as libs wan't to dig up dirt we'll continue throwing the mud you throw from your huge pig stye right back at ya... 



Why are you so afraid of the truth? You should take...
this show on the road. They would love you in Berkeley.
Not afraid of change...
It's not the change that scares me, but the fact that my money will be going to pay for someone else to have something I can barely afford for my own family. Already too much of it goes for that - think foreigners that get Medicaid to pay for all of their doctor visits. And yes, lots of legitimate claims are being denied, but do you think that's going to change when the government has thier hands in it? That's what's really scary. I don't even trust the government with the money they already get from me - what's going to happen when they get more, and more power to boot? The insurance industry needs a complete overhaul, that I agree with, but as far as letting politicians take over? I'm thinking that's not really the best plan.
Afraid to view it are you?
And it is the least of my worries what you consider trash...:)
Too afraid to show up at RNC.
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No one is afraid of him because he is black....
it is a valid concern that he is a racist.

However, his far left socialism is more concerning to me than his racism.
nuttin to be afraid of.....
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I think that's what O lovers are afraid of....
Of course she doesn't have the power to single handedly divide the country. She says what she believes and she is either liked or not. Some agree, some do not. I couldnt' care less what she wears or all this other nit picky garbage the O lovers have resorted to out of desperation.

A true sign of desperation is pulling out such ridiculous notions and accusations and worrying about her wardrobe. Who cares? At least her money isn't coming from terrorist organizations to help her fund her wardrobe, campaign, or anything else for that matter.

Too bad O lovers don't care where his funds are coming from. They are afraid to find out because the truth "won't set them free".
Again, I am so afraid I can't type
I meant vote against Obama. You people have got to stop scaring me with these stories of Muslims taking over the world. How will I ever sleep at night?
Afraid? You bet. I do not want change that O wants.
He keeps changing his mind.  You want change?  Boy are you going to get change.  I am afraid a lot are going to regrete who they voted  for down the road when welfare will be spreading around, electricity rates skyrocket.  No more small businesses because people will be taxed over 250,000.  Oh wait.  It will be 200,000.  Oh wait.  It is 150,000 by Biden.  Oh wait.  Now it is 120,000.  Next it will be 42,000.  Gosh, cannot make up their mind.  I could go on and on.  The O says it is going to be difficult for us because he needs to "kill people's expecations" if he is president.  HE FREAKS ME OUT.  Been reading up on the GREAT DEPRESSION and about Hoover.  Also been hearing reports of O's plans and he will probably put us through the biggest Great Depression in history.  He will kill middle class first and then it will be welfare and the rich. 
I'm afraid it went down the toilet. nm
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Someone is just jealous of Mrs. M I'm afraid
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I will admit that I am afraid, because
and what he states is no different than how the Arab leaders make their speeches.