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niceeeeeee. Another volley from the personal potshot ship. LOL.

Posted By: sam on 2008-08-26
In Reply to: Maybe she's off her meds? ;o) nm - Crackle

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That was not a personal potshot...it was a joke and the original poster got it....
even if you didn't. The original poster....did you look at that post? Obviously tongue firmly implanted in cheek. Take that as you will through your personal filter. :)
Another drive-by potshot over the bow...also infantile...but definitely, it appears...
your style. Sigh.
Truth hurts, right? If you can't refute, take potshot...
basic Alinsky technique. Thanks for making my point.
Typical driveby low blow potshot that has...
nothing to do with the thread. Just to inject a little shot of nastiness. What was the point other than that?
I for one would rather go down with the ship than
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That's right - 'go down with the ship'.
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One way to sink the ship,

to continue your analogy, is to throw off the skilled crew, the engineers and carpenters to make more room; then pull more and more people onto the ship as it sinks, on the theory that at least they may survive a few moments more and then we can all go down together.  Or maybe a miracle will happen and we'll all get rescued.


To answer the question about who might have done a better job:  Because of the very poor ''reaching across the aisle''  candiate the Republican party put forth - in an attempt to pander to ''moderates'' - I can say only that McCain may have done less actual irreparable harm in the first four months, and probably the rest of his term, than Obama.  The Dems would have fought his every proposal tooth and nail (even stuff they agreed with) just because it was his, and that may have put the brakes on some of this headlong rush into socialism that we see now. 


Venezuela will ship 1,000,000 barrels to USA

Venezuela will ship an additional 1,000,000 barrels in the wake of Katrina


Venezuela Embassy, Washington D.C. -- Press Release  -- September 7, 2005: As announced by President Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan national oil company, Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA) will ship approximately one million barrels of PDVSA-produced gasoline this month directly to the United States in the wake of the horrible devastation and destruction caused by Hurricane Katrina.


This volume is in addition to PDVSA’s normal shipments to the United States.


Venezuela is privileged to be able to help the United States in this time of need,” said Venezuela's Ambassador to the United States, Bernardo Alvarez Herrera. “We see ourselves as a compassionate people and hope that our efforts will help cope with current market needs of the U.S. for gasoline, and provide some immediate relief to the victims of this horrific natural disaster.”


Four additional shipments of gasoline, totaling over 960,000 barrels, taken from storage and diverted from other customers, will be sent to and distributed by PDVSA’s wholly-owned US subsidiary, CITGO Petroleum Corp (CITGO) and will supplement PDVSA’s previously scheduled shipments to CITGO in September of 1.2 million barrels of petroleum.


Each of the four additional gasoline shipments will be sent from Venezuela to CITGO during the following time frames:


September 14-16, September 23-25, September 28-30 and September 29-October 1.


With shipping time from Venezuela to the US Gulf Coast only four-five days, these shipments from Venezuela will arrive much more quickly than cargoes from Europe, the Middle East or Asia and, hence, will be able to meet US needs that much sooner.


PDVSA is the fifth largest provider of petroleum products in the world and the third largest provider to the United States. During the last year, Venezuela has occasionally been the largest supplier of oil to the United States, surpassing Saudi Arabia, Canada and Mexico. It exports 95% of its hydrocarbons, 57% of which are earmarked for the United States. PDVSA’s oil refining capacity globally is 3.3 million barrels per day.


Well SIGN ME UP cuz my ship is SINKING!!!!

Ya'll complaining about welfare when it only compromises about 12% of your tax dollars being spent - when, I bet dollars to donuts - ya'll get the "earned income credit" which is a kickback on tax returns which amounts to more than you paid.....WELFARE!  Don't cry to me about supporting other people............witless greed all the way down to the bottom of the barrel.


He's abandoning a sinking ship...
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How does one rescue a sinking ship? That was the
problem Obama was, is and will be facing for a long time.

Obama did not make the holes in the ship, somebody else did.

He tries to repair the damage.

Or do you really think that O's conscious intention is to harm America and Americans?

Can you prove that somebody else would have done in these 4 months a better job in repairing America?

Name him and PLEASE NO PROPHECIES !

That wouldnt matter much if only your ship sank with his....sm
Unfortunately, the rest of America will sink too, if Bush and his ilk are not deactivated.


That should be "treats from Argentina's president not to ship oil..."nm
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Oh geezzz....and the mother ship is coming back next
week, right? LOL.
Don't take it so personal...sm
This is a debate. We will not always agree. It is perfectly normal for you to agree on one thing and be opposed on something else, especially talking with people on the opposite of your political spectrum.

Ward Churchill - see below

Would I care of someone judged me for posting an F-word, no because I apologized and it truly was a mistake, believe it or not. I'm sure no such apology will come from Ann to these widows.

What question is it that I didn't answer?

You are right, it is personal. sm
And it has consequences and I am not talking about physical ones.
cant we do without the personal

attacks?  Hippocrite.  (A hippo crossed with a hypocrite). 


 


SOY was the one who made it personal anyway.
**This fits many on THIS board...To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.**

Maybe you missed that because you've stereotyped, judged and sentenced the liberals already.


POLITICS NOT PERSONAL
I believe you are mistaken. It is almost impossible to carry on a political discussion without getting personal. Political alignments are based on personal beliefs. And as for you trials and tribulations, she said nothing about what you've gone through in your life with the exception of, you know nothing of persecution.
stooping to personal

insults, are we now?  Did you read Wally Lamb's book "She's Come Unhinged?""  A good read.


 


Right back at you...without the personal hit of course..
it is obvious whose value system is skewed. You resort to name calling and personal attacks...judging one's mental health...and sorry, when you let Clinton slide on perjury you lose all credibility of if Clinton had done this you would be disgusted...while that might be personally true, you would not be on this board crucifying him. And please, don't even try to say you would not.
I have never said anything personal about Obama.
I have nothing against him. He has a beautiful family. I am sure he is sincere...the point is, I don't agree with him. I think he is the wrong man for the job. I feel strongly about that. That is why I reply.

I have never attacked him personally, made jokes nasty jokes about him, and certainly not his family. Yet i see that constantly from the other side. The extent of the hatred and nastiness on this site might not bother anyone else...but as an Independent, it puts me off the Dem party...big time, and any positives are pretty much buried in tons of mud. That seems to be the way they do politics...see it in the mainstream media, on the dailykos (referred to one poster as a place where liberals go to post opinion...have you ever read anything there??)...if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

If there are any positives, please point them out to me. I would like to see them.

I suspect what the answer would be if they answered honestly. Of course they would support him. Because he is Obama. Because he is a Democrat. The rules are different for him.

There are indeed two Americas, and that is the way they want it. THeir way or the highway. Choice for them but not for anyone else. Freedom of religion as long as you never mention it. Does that sound like America to you?
we don;t need personal attacks.

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No need for personal potshots....
that actually reflect worse on you than the people you ridicule.
you have a personal vendetta against her and...
You continue to post time and time again saying sam this or sam that. We all enjoy hearing sams opinions and viewpoints. She is not the bully on this site (it seems you are). She has done nothing wrong to deserve being kicked off. Maybe the moderator ought to kick you off. How would you like it.

Moderate please do NOT kick sam off this board because others don't like what she has to say. I've never found her to be insulting towards others and from my understanding this is a board where we can all share things we have heard and our opinions. We all (well most of us) love sam and the due diligence she uses to research articles and she has never been rude to others and has done nothing to deserve being denied access. I have learned a lot from her posts.

Thank you moderator if you are reading this.
personal attacks are

not allowed on this board. Stop immediately.


 


personal attacks are

not allowed on this board.  Stop attacking me personally with your imagining what I have or don't have in my work area.  Stick to the issues.


 


Why the personal attacks?

This has nothing to do with this conversation.  What this person makes and why they make that is none of our business.  The point was that she didn't live beyond her means and doesn't want a handout and that right there makes her a heck of a lot better than a lot of people. 


it is a personal choice
If you make it a religious choice, it is a toss up. Most Jews believe life begins at first breath, just like when God breathed into Adam's nostril. Protestants are divided on the issue. Many mainline/reform churches take the choice stance, including PC-USA and others.

I believe it is a tough decision, but I sure as heck don't see it as murder. Since you do, you probably should not have an abortion. Since my DH had a vasectomy, I probably won't need one. But if am raped, or the vas were to fail, you can be darn sure I want to be able to make that choice.
nothing personal - it's just politics!!! nm
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Does personal responsibility mean
get off your lazy a$$, find a job, don't expect a handout, free healthcare, free college, maybe work for a living instead of expecting those of us who have been responsible to foot your bill??
What I have is personal bitterness...(sm)

for an organization operating under the pretense of religion molesting children.  Not only did they do it, they obviously condoned it by hiding the fact.  I must be nice to be a religious -- it's such a blinding experience.  You don't have to see the world as it really is.  You can just make assumptions based on your religion. 


I actually commend you on adopting children.  I do, however, wish more people would adopt children in this country.  I think it's a little bit of a double standard when one would go overseas to find a child to suit their desires and at the same time condemn this country over social issues.


And since you're waiting.....


http://www.adoptuskids.org/Child/ChildSearch.aspx


When you go to this page, don't change the criteria under *child profile* to look for the perfect child, just go to the bottom of the page and hit *search.*  I came up with 3466 children waiting for a home -- and that's just out of one agency.


how was that a personal attack?
telling you you aren't better than everyone? At least I'm not callng people mentally challenged. yes i know that wasn't you, you are the friend that just laughs along with the bully...

and if you wanna point fingers about me not responding the way you think I should have, i dont see you responding to the person giving their opinion on what trickle up means...

give it a rest it's freaking Christmas time
you obviously HAVE to have the last word so i'll let you have it. pretty pathetic that you spend your time trying to cut other people down... is that also a personal attack?
Right on! Why take personal responsibility for
nm
If you are answering to me, my personal
beliefs are strongly Christian, but I am a Christian who also believes wholeheartedly in the separation between church and state, FYI.  I was answering the person who is scared.  Christians should not be afraid of anything, if they truly believe that God is in control.  Just my opinion.
My personal feelings aside,,,
the three branches of government were meant to be equal. It was never intended for the judicial branch to be able to "overrule" the legislative branch or the voters whenever they felt that it was appropriate. It is abuse of what was meant to be a check and balance, but who checks the courts. It would appear that they have worked themselves into the final say and that is really unfortunate.
My personal opinion
FWIW, by definition civil is: "of or relating to or befitting citizens as individuals" and "of or occurring within the state or between or among citizens of the state" (per wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn), which to me is the one the government should sanction, be it gay or straight, and thereby entitle one to the legal and financial 'benefits'. Marriage, on the other hand, in my opinion could/should then be viewed as more a religious construct.
and the personal attacks continue

I too think it was a PERSONAL matter. It's unfortunate that the
republicans would stop at NOTHING to drag Bill Clinton through any kind of mud at any cost to the country down to whos blowing him.
You must not have read the personal comment at the end then.

Sounds like you have a personal problem....
And no, I don't have to deal with it. I don't take orders from folks with psychological problems on a forum. Do you?

I don't even know what I'd be lying about anyway. My guess is that you don't know either and that you are obviously just trolling.
and let's NOT forget personal slander
You all have directly slandered MT, and it shouldn't be tolerated in any form.

I'll hand your bog back to you and step aside.


Politics of personal destruction

If a conservative talked about an African-American woman like this we would be called racists and even worse.


If all you have to criticize is her shopping habit then you really have nothing to criticize.


What I said was hardly a personal attack, Fern. sm
It was an observation.  I think I know who you are, hiding there behind all those forest nicknames. 
How in the world could I have known what was going on in your personal life? sm
I have had quite a few nasty comments said to me on these boards and I have never taken them personally.  I am truly very sorry about your mother and, of course, would have never made the comment knowing your circumstances. It's a little disingenuous to present this this way.  It isn't any use speaking to you, Teddy. You have a grudge and you're going to keep it.  I am not going to bring out a long laundry list of wrongs done to me on these boards.  Feel free not to respond to me and I'll make an effort to stay off your board.
forgot my own personal favorite

How is this considered effective and balanced political debate?


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You two are....peas in a pod....twins joined at the brain....










actually more like a ventriloquist and his buddy. Just not sure which one's hand is up which one's back. "I second that." "Oh I just got goose bumps." lol. Gotta love you two. So entertaining.

Maybe so, but it is personal choice how this is handled...
and you can see how people here chose to handle it. I find that reprehensible, sorry. If the media was making the kind of judgments these people are, it would be reprehensible on their part too. Are you going to say the same thing if people turn their criticism on Obama's mother, who was also not married when she had him?

I am sure it was discussed before Palin accepted the nomination. Obama's mother was 18 when she had him, 1 year earlier. There are lots of women out there who vote who had children out of wedlock or have pregnant teenagers or had pregnant teenagers...do you think they are going to be kindly disposed to a campaign whose followers want to condemn Sarah Palin for that?

I really don't think they realize it, and the media too...if they dwell on it, they will deep six his candidacy. And to take your words...there will be no turning back then.
Preacher of personal responsibility: When do
nm
Personal attack politics. You really don't know any other way...do you?
Says more about you than me.
Abortion is a personal issue!
I can think of many more valid reasons for a woman to have an abortion than for a woman to shoot wildlife from a helicopter!
I can say from personal experience that you are 100% wrong. nm
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