and let's NOT forget personal slander

• Ignore MT and maybe it will go away nm - gt
  • It will never go away. - American Woman
    • Excuse my presence long enough to correct you. SM - Brunson
      • Bye! For your shower, Dial works really good. - gt
      • Cut the crap already! - American Woman
        • Just loving it - gt
          • Yeah, loving your spin - another observer
            • So it's okay to lie on a "poll" - Can't keep your lying rules straight!
              • not a lie and you are still obsessed. - sm
            • NOT TRUE! - American Woman
              • again, this is stupid - another observer
        • I can't see as how this is necessary. - Learn some manners
          • Dont lie, that is all - gt
            • This whole thread is stupid! - hilarious
            • Who's to judge credibility? Certainly not you or I on a chat board. - I didn't see a lie
              • Credibility - Observer
                • You call a difference in perception a lie?! - I didn't see a lie
                  • When does a difference become a distortion? - Observer
                    • She said she had been to Iraq and would re-enlist if necessary - another observer
                      • HER words (yet again): - American Woman
                        • This whole thing is dumb and idiotic - another observer
                          • It's not just one obscure post. - American Woman
                            • blah blah blah. - sm
                            • get over yourself - another observer
                            • She wasn't *caught* in anything. - sm
                • Thank you... - American Woman
              • It is the VERY SAME - American Woman
        • Your rants make absolutely no sense - huh

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Generally speaking, defamation is the issuance of a false statement about another person, which causes that person to suffer harm. Slander involves the making of defamatory statements by a transitory (non-fixed) representation, usually an oral (spoken) representation.Typically, the elements of a cause of action for defamation include:

1. A false and defamatory statement concerning another;
   
2. The unprivileged publication of the statement to a third party (that is, somebody other than the person defamed by the statement);
   
3. If the defamatory matter is of public concern, fault amounting at least to negligence on the part of the publisher; and
   
4. Damage to the plaintiff.

A defense recognized in most jurisdictions is "opinion". If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true

Example:  A defense similar to opinion is "fair comment on a matter of public interest". If the mayor of a town is involved in a corruption scandal, expressing the opinion that you believe the allegations are true is not likely to support a cause of action for defamation.

Under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, as set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1964 Case, New York Times v Sullivan, where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice". In translation, that means that the person making the statement knew the statement to be false, or issued the statement with reckless disregard as to its truth. For example, Ariel Sharon sued Time Magazine over allegations of his conduct relating to the massacres at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps. Although the jury concluded that the Time story included false allegations, they found that Time had not acted with "actual malice" and did not award any damages.

I.E., what the poster stated was freedom of speech, not slander, libel or defamation of character. It is a known fact that O hung around with not-so-nice people until he ran for President. Is that slander? Nope.

The poster was giving an opinion. That is freedom of speech. If it was slander, O would have be having a lot of lawsuits on his hands towards all the people who have ever stated anything against him, which would probably be around 250,000,000....including me...out of 300,000,000 people living in the USA.

attacks?  Hippocrite.  (A hippo crossed with a hypocrite). 

insults, are we now?  Did you read Wally Lamb's book "She's Come Unhinged?""  A good read.

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not allowed on this board. Stop immediately.

not allowed on this board.  Stop attacking me personally with your imagining what I have or don't have in my work area.  Stick to the issues.

This has nothing to do with this conversation.  What this person makes and why they make that is none of our business.  The point was that she didn't live beyond her means and doesn't want a handout and that right there makes her a heck of a lot better than a lot of people. 

for an organization operating under the pretense of religion molesting children.  Not only did they do it, they obviously condoned it by hiding the fact.  I must be nice to be a religious -- it's such a blinding experience.  You don't have to see the world as it really is.  You can just make assumptions based on your religion. 

I actually commend you on adopting children.  I do, however, wish more people would adopt children in this country.  I think it's a little bit of a double standard when one would go overseas to find a child to suit their desires and at the same time condemn this country over social issues.

And since you're waiting.....

http://www.adoptuskids.org/Child/ChildSearch.aspx

When you go to this page, don't change the criteria under *child profile* to look for the perfect child, just go to the bottom of the page and hit *search.*  I came up with 3466 children waiting for a home -- and that's just out of one agency.

If a conservative talked about an African-American woman like this we would be called racists and even worse.

If all you have to criticize is her shopping habit then you really have nothing to criticize.

How is this considered effective and balanced political debate?

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You two are....peas in a pod....twins joined at the brain....