they were as sincere as most politicians are ever - not
Posted By: small mess on 2008-08-28
In Reply to: sincerity - shawty
I have a very jaded view of our political system .. sorry
everything is calculated
everything is conniving
every move is planned and orchestrated by the "back room"
I've seen it ..
The Clintons did what they had to do to stay in the "power" positions in the Democratic party ... simple as that..
sorry ... JMHO
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It is my sincere wish that
under Bush will be gone forever, never to return. Me and about 65,431,955 fellow citizens.
With all due respect, and I am sincere in that....
how can you learn new things if you only talk to people who agree with everything you say? I come here to the liberal board for that very reason...if I wanted someone to rubber stamp my ideas I would be talking to people I knew would do that. That is not how you learn. Debate forces you to go to different sources, listen to differing views, and help you make informed decisions. I am not a rote party person. That is why I am not a registered Republican. I registered Independent only because you have to register as one of the three to be able to vote. I have voted for Democrats before (though I admit, not often). I admire Joe Lieberman tremendously and I hate that the Dem party is so far left they forced him to run as an Independent this time. I thought that was very short-sighted on their part. Because there are Democrats out there in small-town America who have not taken the same hard left turn that the Dem base seems to have taken. If I were a Georgian, I would have voted for Zell Miller in a heartbeat. Not because of his political affiliation, but because of his views, and because of he had the guts to stand up for those views when the hard left sought to highjack his party. My parents were lifelong Democrats. Sadly they are not longer with us, but I am telling you my friend, they would NOT recognize the Democratic party of today. They would be horrified at the hard left turn it has taken. Much of the Republican party has abandoned their core platform as well. Most of those running are not true conservatives. What I want is less government interference in the lives of individuals, more power at the state level where it belongs according to the constitution, the Supreme Court to keep their noses out of state's business and not legislate from the bench...encourage individual responsibility again instead of everyone looking to the government to supply every social need. The more we move toward that, the more we move toward socialism...and that is the agenda of the hard left in this country today. And friend, it does not work. Look at Venezuela. Look at Cuba. Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy...both started as socialism and ended in dictatorship. That is where socialism inevitably goes...when you take power away from individual states and give to the federal government, and make the entire populace depend upon the government to supply everything. Believe me...that is NOT where any of us should want to go.
Thanks for listening.
I do believe she is sincere in caring about...
the people she is sworn to represent...and she has done a great job in Alaska. With her at least we have a CHANCE of not being sold down the river...the other ticket has a history of doing just that, in their ever increasing quest to shuffle gimmes to the so-called lower class to keep them their voting base. This whole mess was the Democrats, through fannie/freddie, pressuring banks to give those high risk subprime loans to people who could not afford them, people who had little credit or no credit...and where did that leave us in the middle class who had to qualify for loans the old-fashioned way and actually paid our mortgages while they let theirs default and here we are. With all that out there, you want to make fun of the VP candidate on the other ticket? Is that supposed to illustrate how astute you are? It is a valid question.
I heard that earlier. I believe he is sincere...
it is a historic thing that will happen and I think acknowledging it is the right thing to do. Good for McCain.
Sincere apologies, wrong board. NM
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Yes, sincere apologies, wrong board. So what? NM
Very sincere here, I know the country is in deep trouble with the ......sm
constantly-growing unemployment lines, the banking crisis, stock market debacle, fall-out of our gross national product, growing mortgage crises, etc., but as much as I support our President and feels that he has the initiative, the drive, the intelligence, altruism, the humanitarianism, etc., to get this country turned around (and boy do we need a total 180 degree here), I really feel it is being pushed way too aggressively and hastily,.....haste makes more waste, and boy we do not need more of THAT. I see many good ideas in the O plan, and we certainly need a change in the banking laws, corporate tax structure, etc., but I have been reading as much as I can, and I have to agree with the moderate Republicans (is the sky falling yet?), there is a lot of JUNK in the Obama Solution that is really just contributing more to our national debt, and will not do anything substantial for the common folk, which is supposedly what this whole Bill is about. There is suffering and people are desperate, but if we pass the wrong plan, we will be living with even more misery and debt that our great-grandchildren will not even be able to pay off. Good solid social programs, yes, educational programs, yes, work programs, yes, help with our medical system, yes, but man, there are so many pet projects in their it looks like a lobbyist's dream. Slow down a bit, think a lot more, and perhaps we can really trim that "baby" into a truly successful plan!! Okay, off the  , call me SCARED and confused, yes democrats have open minds and limits to spending!
Can we stop the bickering for a few moments and say a sincere prayer...
for those on our gulf coast, and for all the emergency workers down there to help? They are more important than anything we are saying here right now!
Politicians will dig up anything
negative they can about anyone running against them. I'm sure we all remember the things said back and forth between Hill and Messiah Obama before they finally picked Master Obama. It is all dirt flinging and back stabbing and promises they don't intend to keep. I truly wish they would invent a BS monitor that would let us know when these politicians are really telling us the truth or whether they are, once again, feeding us a line of BS.
We always fall for the promises made during the campaign and then we see no results when that politician actually gets in office. This is with all political parties and frankly I'm sick of it all. They waste all this money campaigning and smearing the other candidate as best as they can and in the end.....whoever wins still sticks it to the American people and those promises that were made are soon forgotten.
They are all politicians, they only know
how to talk like that, whatever party they are.
And why are all of you not politicians?
You people recite what you read! 
Like most politicians. LOL n/m
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not only the politicians,
people in general, especially when it comes to the Middle East.
Politicians - I don't trust ANY of them
Especially ones who will have anything to do with Clintons (both of them) or any of Clintons cabinet people.
It's not just liberal politicians.
It's politicians in general. They're all so crooked they have to be screwed into the ground when they die. It's wrong to call prostitution the oldest profession because it's actually politicians that hold that title, although they are similar fields - they both screw people for money.
All politicians lie to get elected.
We are all fooling ourselves if we thing otherwise. It is literally picking the lesser of two evils. The one thing that I can say is that at least McCain makes decisions. He votes instead of just voting present like Obama and when Obama actually has voted yes or no.....he has consistently said one thing and voted the exact opposite. I just do not think he has the experience or the ability to make executive decisions. I do not trust his associations and I do not have the same values as he does.
All politicians are liars!
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All politicians are liars.
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Backwards politicians nm
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Greedy politicians/CEO's
As always, good to see you here...I remember reading when I was a kid that John F. Kennedy did not accept hjs salary as President; that he gave it back to the U.S. Guess since he was wealthy, he felt there was no need to take it. Too bad we don't have that kind of individual in office now..
Since when do politicians support
a group or say they do and then turn around and crap on that group or break promises they made to that group. I think that kind of goes hand in hand with politics. LOL!
Honestly, do you really think Barrack Obama is crapping on the homosexual community because he asked Rick Warren to do this? It isn't changing any laws. To me it looks like a liberal reaching his hand across the aisle to a conservative. To me this shows that even though they may not have the exact same opinions, they can still do something together. Isn't that what we are all about. Reaching across the aisle to show that even though we don't agree, we can still work together. Yet all people can see is this being a bashing session against gay people.
I don't agree with homosexuality. However, if they want some kind of legal union.....whatever. That is about as equal rights as I am going to lean for the gay community. I have gay friends who have no problem leaving the definition of marriage between a man and woman.....as long as they can be joined together legally...that is all that matters to them. I just feel that the ones who are trying to redefine marriage is dead wrong. Leave marriage between a man and woman and give homosexuals some sort of legal union.
This changing every tradition to accommodate every single minority group is what, in my opinion, is hurting our country. All these minority groups want equal rights but in doing that.....they take away from the majority. How much more should the majority have to sacrifice?
The idiots were the politicians!
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I know all politicians lie to get voted in.
However, this is not the time to be playing games with us. A lot more people are watching what government is doing because of what happened last term. Obama really smooth talked a lot of people. I think a lot of people are starting to worry like some of the rest of us about his real intentions. Too bad we couldn't get the rest of the kool-aid drinkers to get a clue.
I say that next election we vote someone in who is neither a pub or a dem. Shake up the parties a bit and let them know that we are fed up with both parties!!!!!
And politicians have the audacity...
to tell bankers and CEOs of the big three how to spend their profits! At least they're using their own money, that they worked for!
It's absolutly disgusting that those politicians in DC think that they can have all these expenses at our expense! I love how they have parties and go off on weekend getaways that we pay for - I haven't had a vacation in years!!!
And the politicians talk about certain groups having a sense of entitlement - give me a break! They have the world's largest case of entitlement disease I've ever seen, starting with voting themselves an automatic raise every year! I thought raises were supposed to be for employees that were doing a good job!
I find most politicians on these shows
respond with rehearsed speech, or just do not answer the question. On Hardball, Chris will say answer the question, yes or no, over and over and over and whoever just goes off on whatever tangent.
Insurance companies and the politicians they buy..
Doesn't anybody in DC have a conscience? The system as it stands now is disgusting. They are literally making billions by killing of thousands upon thousands (maybe millions?) of Americans. Anyone with half a brain should recognize profit-driven health insurance only serves the best interest of the CEOs of the insurance companies - not healthcare recipients! This needs to change NOW!
I saw my first AMA commercial last night urging people to vote with the millions of uninsured Americans in mind. I loved it! It is at least a step in the right direction. Vote with the healthcare crisis in mind people!
You're right about both parties being politicians
and I guess it just boils down to a lesser of the two evils! This is such a simple thing, I just don't understand why you wouldn't just prove it to shut everyone up.
Very few politicians care about the people either.
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The Difference between Fish and Politicians
Some of you don't like Glenn Beck, but this video is really funny.
http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/22798848/show-and-tell.htm
Politicians and their love lives
aren't really important to me. This guy didn't lie under oath about his affair. Clinton did but I still really don't care. There peckers and/or cigars aren't my concern. I'm more concerned about how our country is being run and the money being spent, etc. Affairs are things that happen too often. I don't condone that type of behavior but they will have to pay the consequences for their actions. More important issues to discuss than this.
You gotta love them greedy politicians!
'No, no, it's the wrong thing for our country to take money from taxpayers like that!'
'But, if you're gonna do it anyway, I'll take some!'
Just confirms my belief that they should all be thrown out on their rears!
stop comparing politicians to fish!
Everyone knows referring to Trout Pout is a subtle racial insult!
Unfortunately, many politicians stopped caring a looong
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Liberal politicians will NEVER do anything about illegal aliens...
because among all the OTHER illegal things illegals do, they VOTE. And THAT is their value to the liberal left. Keep the poor poor and beholden (and force as many of us into that bracket as they can), illegals with benes...their voting base. They would sing a different tune if you had to prove citizenship to vote...if illegals were stopped from voting their "champions" would disappear like rats deserting a sinking ship. It's all about the power and keeping it...have we learned nothing? The best way to control people is to keep them dependent. Obama knows that. He has studied it his entire adult life. And you have given him the keys to the country. Laughable if not so sad.
King funeral--just another money shot for politicians
and opportunity for all politicians involved to bloviate ad nauseum. The whole thing went on forever. Reminds me of the old Appalachian mountain funerals where there were five or six preachers and each one had to see who could out preach the other.
Everybody had to get their money shot (especially Clinton and Carter) and to me it was sad to see a bunch of politicans and so-called religious leaders take advantage a good woman's funeral just to make their political hay.
Goes to show that you can't even die anymore without it being shrouded in politics.
A lot of politicians on both sides changed their views on the war once the truth came out. nm
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Totally! Personally, I would "smack" the politicians first, they are supposed to be "publi
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