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to make myself extremely clear, it looked as if the baby was unconscious, was limp and looked to be

Posted By: MTpocketsTYGeorge on 2008-09-04
In Reply to: I have sticking to my opinion...please leave me alone - MTpocketsTYGeorge

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Thx & Sorry.... I should have looked it up! :P
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Don't you think they would have looked into this?
- Don't believe everything ya' read...
I did, too. I wish I never would have looked at this
FEMA coffins, too. I'm going to stop watching these now
Okay - I looked for it -
my curiosity got the best of me - I cannot find anything that says Obama lied about anything. Can you point me in the right direction? I am still trying to work and also get my new information for the day... Thank you!
You know, I looked and looked
and could not find the mistake they accused me of making. I am sure that I made such a mistake, but it must have been days ago. Not really sure why I care, either.
So, I just went and looked at that...(sm)
and here's the deal.  O'Reilly made fun of the woman and called her a witch.  SNL made fun of Palin.  So, O'Reilly is making the case that if SNL can do it he can too.  HELLO!!!!  SNL is a COMEDY show.  Fox is SUPPOSED to be news.  That's the difference. 
You know....I looked the other way

when Obama said that we aren't a Christian nation.  I don't really agree with that given the number of Christians in this country and the fact that all of our money has In God We Trust on it....but whatever.  I understood that he didn't want to tick off the secular part of our country because, as we know by the hate stated on this board, many non-believes truly hate believers. 


However, when he said that we are a Muslim country.....I was like.....excuse me?  We aren't a Christian nation but we are a Muslim country?  Why couldn't he have just said that we are a country with many different religions and we have the freedom to practice whatever it is we choose or don't choose.  I would have respected that a lot more than....we are not a Christian nation......we are a Muslim country. 


I understand trying to make ties with Muslims who aren't extremists and want us dead, but to say something like that.....total BS.  I just don't know what games our President is playing.  You would even think that some of the atheists on this board who hate Christians would have a problem with Obama calling us a Muslim country too....but since Obama said it and some of them love Obama.....I'm sure they will, once again, give the big O a free pass as always.


he looked awful
He looked like something was wrong in the news video I saw..I did not state it was alcohol.  I stated you never know cause something looked wrong..his face was hanging, his eyes were puffy, he was inattentive..definitely something was not right..Believe me, I do not wish this disease on anyone..I have seen what it can do..
Oh, you looked in the mirror, then?
 Oh, don't stop now!  Keep talking, keep the accusations rolling!  Keep proving my point.
I have looked at "my" guy

and I've looked at McCain.  I wouldn't vote for McCain if you paid me.  Did you not HEAR him say he's the biggest free trader ever?


<groan" only 1 more day.


YOU have not looked at the facts.
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I looked at the article but I would like you to know
more abortions go on under a republican leadership than democratic. You probably will think this is not true, but just do the googling for yourself. Regardless of what is signed, regardless, women have for years and will continue to have abortions, whether he is president or someone else. There does not have to be any law at all for women to have these. I know because I was born back in the 40s and abortions illegal when I was a young teen but girls/women still had them. This is a radical based article you are looking at. I would take this article with a grain of salt.
I think those things will be looked at...
but the impetuous is on stimulating the economy RIGHT NOW. And, with the stimulus package as it stands..........it will not work. Tax cuts do not work. It's been proven over and over again.
If you looked really close to
Nancy Pelosi you would have seen the large brown on her nose.  That is what that was all about.  Look at me.....I'm Obama's right hand woman and I'm going to applaud and give a standing O for every little thing he says whether it is stupid or not.  Woo hoo!  Personally, I'm surprised the dems didn't do the wave or something.  I wonder what kind of kool-aid they served last night.  Hmm.
ROFL! I never looked at it from that...
point of view! 
They looked more like devil worshipers to me.
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I looked at it....and I understand the feelings...
however, you know where I stand. I stand on the sides of the soldiers who said *yes, it is our right to do that, that does not mean we have to exercise it* and *I myself would not have done that.* I do not blame any of those soldiers for appearing, other than I believe, whether intentions are good or not, that they worsened their situation by emboldening the enemy. I see that that was not a question that was asked. If those soldiers had to answer that question truthfully, a whole different debate might be out there.

Again, I support their right to do whatever they think is best; I do not support their timing. The problem is that others also have to live with the consequences of their actions. We all have a lot of rights to do a lot of things...we simply choose where and when to exercise those rights...using discretion...and considering how our actions will affect others. I had a right to carry a sign in the park across from the White House while Clinton was in office saying the President of the US is an admitted albeit unindicted felon, but I did not exercise that right. That is basically what I am talking about. It is how you choose to exercise the right...not that you HAVE the right. And I don't think hiding behind *I have the right* always excuses the fallout from the exercising. But you knew we would not agree on this.

I also have a problem with a statement like *the majority of the country is against the war in Iraq,* and *the majority of the military is against the war in Iraq.*
When you look at the percentages on the polls they are very close. Without giving the actual percentages, it gives the impression of a much larger gap. And they quoted the Military Times poll for the other statement. The Military Times does not now nor has it ever represented the majority of the American Military, and there is a definite bias there. But I will stop on that subject now.

As to biased on the part of CBS...I believe CBS probably actively hunted for this story, and I expect those gentlemen were paid well for their appearances, though we will never know that, and it really does not matter in the grand scheme of things.


The last time I looked he was in Houston at...
the emergency management center. When did he go to New Orleans? Not being smart, hadn't heard that.

He said that is why he did not go last time...exactly what you just said. And now he goes, ...and you criticize him.

Serious question...why is that? Don't want to fight, just want to know.
I never said as an independent I looked objectively....
at both sides. I am an "independent" meaning independent of the major parties. You have to register as something to vote in this country and I chose Independent. As far as objective...none of us are objective. All of us have taken a stand on one side or the other. What I do is present the other side of things posted here on the Dem side. Instead of refuting the posts, generally I just get attacked. That is generally what happens when a point can't be refuted, so all that is left is to attack. It works itself out here nearly every day.

As to the "you can't have it both ways," that was originated by a Dem poster. I just turned it back to them and I will turn it back to you...you can't have it both ways.
Obama did well. He actually looked at McCain.
McCain wouild not look at Obama at all.  He just looked at the camera and the commentator with his fake smile.
Anyone actually looked at the money Obama wants
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Nice try, not buying that. I have looked at both
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looked at her financial records lately?
she is definitely not a poor girl in my opinion. I think she could afford to buy her own clothes...
Wow! Markets looked like they were coming up right
before the election, but now that the election is over, it FELL 486.93 points today. What's up with that?
No. He looked very insecure. He is the leader of the
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I'm a "dem" and I am already "weeping," have you even looked into this whole.....sm
package, some of the ridiculous, overblown, superfluous spending on pet projects that will NOT create jobs OR stimulate the economy in the long-run, as most sane, thinking people want?? Stop the partisan insanity, when you talk along party lines like that you are basically treating Americans like me as though we have a LOBOTOMY just because we belong to a party...I can think for myself, I believe in most Democratic principles, I am trying to support my president, but I will tell you I am angry, and very, very worried about what my children and grandchilden are going to inherit....I am changing my affiliation to "independent", as I thought our nation was supposed to be, but will never be, because we will be mortgaged to China and several other nations. What a shame!
You mean in the brocade nightmare that looked like
my great grandmother's curtains or the hideous dress she wore to the balls that looked like cottonballs were sewn to it? I would not call her beautiful; handsome maybe, but not beautiful.
I saw a lot of pictures and to me it looked just like the convention,
Republican, all old and white. I saw no black faces in the crowd, just white. I think veiled attempt (at first) as an anti-Obama rally. Just talking with husband tonight. I am old and have never seen anything like what is being spouted now days, very dangerous situation for Obama, I think. Just heard man asking radio station today about concentration camps in America. What? Why is everyone running scared? What in the h. is going on? I think people are hysterical and the insanity has gone too far.
I do know what the original SS draft looked like....
A great great uncle of mine was a friend of Roosevelt and was a long-time military man. He finally retired and went back to the midwest when Roosevelt called him and asked him to please come back to Washington to draft a plan for SS.

We are fortunate to have this to see and I can guarantee you it had nothing to do with freeloaders and moochers but was to look out for the older crowd. Yes, they were taking into account the average lifespan of a man and then their windows, so she could have money to help feed their children if he died early. This was in part because of the stock market crash where so many lost their life's savings. It was never never meant to be what it has turned into. Wealthy older Americans were not to have this money JUST because they hit a certain age. If they had money, they were not to draw SS, only those with extreme need.

Unfortunately, over the decades government has turned SS into anything but its intended use.
The last time I looked we were NOT involved
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touchas -- looked up proper spelling nm

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Charlie Gibson looked down on her while talking. I
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I did post a solution at the top...looked good to me...
but if you reward the bad behavior that got us here, and leave the same foxes in charge of the henhouse with absolutely NO remorse for where they put this country...maybe you are ready to excuse them. I'm not. does not mean we can't move forward with a solution. But I am not cutting them any slack. Do I blame them? Yes I blame them. They nearly killed the economy and are about to cost me several billion dollars. You do whatever fits you best. I think SOMEONE in this should lose their job!!
I always thought he looked like Alfred E. Newman
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I always thought he looked like Alfred E. Newman
What, me worry?
I am NOT an O fan, but WOW!!! I wish my bare arms looked that good. nm
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No idea....looked like maybe a broken blood vessel?
It DID look bad.
Bush looked like a liar in that flight suit.
The democrats are into strobe lights and smoke machines and can conduct their convention any way they choose. Nobody asked for your approval. Go serve tea and crumpets next week in the Twin Cities but better remember a couple of air raid alarms to wake up the crowd when they start dozing through their lack of enthusiasm for the best they could do.
I've looked at Barack's voting record, though, and don't see that.
He talks change, sure, but I want to see evidence that he truly takes action toward change. And not just NOW, now that he's running for POTUS. I want to be able to look back and see a consistency and I just didn't see that with his voting record. Not saying McCain is the answer, either. I really can't back either right now, and as stated, I truly wish I felt differently. I'm quite apprehensive about the future of this country. I want my children to enjoy freedom and freedom as I knew it when I was a child no longer exists, so I am very fearful what their adult lives will be like. Someone has to change THAT, and I don't see much from Barack about that issue. Personal liberties need to be restored and upheld and politicians need to stop bowing to individual groups that claim to be working toward "the greater good" when their eyes are really on the prize, which is always money in their pockets. Is Barack going to stand up and do that for US citizens? I really don't know. Words are easy to say. Sure, we can vote again in 4 years if he doesn't live up to the hype, but will this country survive 4 more years with the wrong person at the helm? Again, not saying it's McCain either. I actually kinda feel like there's no good choice right now and we're doomed no matter what! Again, I know I'm not alone in this line of thinking because I've talked to many, many others who feel the same way that I do.
What a vile thing to say. He looked absolutely perfect to me!
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That looked like a juvenile high school posting
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she looked like the whack-a-mole character during that "speech" the other night..
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Let me make something clear.
I am African American. I have never seen Africa. The human race originated on the continent of Africa. Now, what do you consider yourself? You can call yourself whatever you want. We want to be known as African American.
Let's make this a little more clear as well...
Both Obama and Biden voted to fund the bridge to nowhere and then voted to defund it. Who flipped first? biggg LOL.

Well, Howard Dean was governor of Vermont, right? Little old Vermont? Fewer folks than Alaska. His approval rating wasn't that high. He also ran for Presidential nomination. Only having been a governor of a state with population smaller than Alaska's. He is now the Chairman of the Democratic National Committee. Apparently Democrats only have problems with smaller population governors if they are Republican. That is a belly LOL.

Oh please...cheating? Have you done any research on how Obama had one of his early rivals for office kicked off the ticket so he would not have to run against her? Now THAT is cheating I can believe in. Because that was cheating in politics, not his personal life.

What McCain did in his personal life does not excuse Barack Obama for what he did in his public life. I don't care what either of them does in his personal life...what I care about is what they have done in their public life. McCain certainly keeps better company than Obama does...talk about "uglies." And they are not in the past.

I think we can retire the bridge to nowhere since Obama and Biden were for it before they were against it also. THEY voted with COngress to defund it, so she turned the money to other infrastructure projects that she felt Alaska needed more. Sounds like good judgment to me.

Don't understand the Wild West comment. "Maverick" was a term applied to cattle who refused to run with the herd.

Actually, you are rehashing the same old stuff and accusing her of rehashing old stuff. Does that mean you need a thesaurus also? Just asking.
Let me make myself emphatically clear
I'm not gay either closet or open.  I really don't care if you believe that I'm not MT.  No skin off my back, but calling someone gay just because they reply to someone's posts is really stretching it and only makes you look odd like you have some gay obssession yourself.  No one was calling anyone gay until you arrived today.
Ten commandments make it quite clear
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Let's make one thing crystal clear....
Obama was not "forced" to denounce his preacher of 20 years. He threw him under the bus for political expediency with a lame excuse that in all his 20 years there he never "heard a sermon like that." Frankly I don't believe it and my guess is that Jesse Jackson and the Reverend Wright don't believe it either. He holds the same beliefs Wright does, he just knows if he openly espouses them he will not get elected. Going on the record with a preacher who said "God Da_ America" from the pulpit will not get you elected in this country. So much for supporting your mentor.

Back to Jackson's first gaffe..not an unfortunate slip of the tongue. He said "cut his nu_s off" and made the cutting motion with his wrist. Saw it with my own eyes. That comes from a place of deep dislike, my friend. Jesse Jackson does not like Barack Obama. Why he can't just say so to the man's face and move on is beyond me. And when he used the N word regarding Obama I don't think it was meant in a "nice" way, for that very reason. Freedom of speech, sure. But when you get caught, spin, spin, deny, deny.

Excuse me, but if someone in the pulpit screeches "God Da_ America" at me...and that is mild to some of the things he says...I believe indignation is in order and I will not hesitate to say so...to Wright or Obama or anyone else, exercising MY right of free speech and to disagree. Again...no one forced Obama to do anything. I didn't see a gun to his head. His advisors just told him the truth...distance yourself or you won't get elected. He had a choice and he made one...support his mentor, a man he called a close friend, pastor of 20 years...or get elected. He made his choice. Threw the rev under the bus. But don't kid yourself, friend...in his heart of hearts he does believe the doctrine of that church. THAT is the real Barack Obama. Search the internet and read some of the things Michelle Obama has written. She is on the same page. That is who they are. Certainly their right to do or say what they want. But they should be honest about it. And they are not. Whenever they slip and show what they really are, then they have to backpedal because the advisors are screeching and then come the apologies. Sometimes you just can't keep up the pretense and who you really are comes out. Inevitable. That is why they need the spinmeisters. That is why ALL politicians need the spinmeisters.
I'll try to make this clear for those who don't understand

We don't need people pointing out "similarities" in known terrorists names to candidates who are running for President of the United States.  This is not something I like seeing as a topic with the "oh this is freaky" added.  This is not freaky and certainly not funny.  WE DON'T NEED TO HEAR THIS.  I would be equally upset if somebody linked John McCain's name with some horrible and vile person.  This is what I would expect to come out of the John McCain camp as an ad trying to connect the two while "innocently" stating "oh I'm not saying that they are alike but it's just freaky". 


Sure maybe people do see that (I didn't), but we certainly do not need anyone to be bringing this up.  This kind of statement falls right along the lines of the statement that Hillary made when she said that she was staying in the race because "we all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June, right?"  Well I guess you could call that freaky too.


To me pointing out something like this whether it's towards Obama or McCain is loathsome and I take great offense to this kind of comment or comparison.  It sounds like others did too, so glad to know I'm not the only one.


Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked

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He looked like a clown because he is a clown. sm
He was busted bigger than - - - -.  I really enjoyed watching that weasel squirm, and then poor wittle baby was suspiciously sick last night and couldn't do his show, but he felt well enough to call in at the end of his show that he supposedly couldn't do to trash them some more.  He's just a big fake and blow-hard!!  I'm so glad the View ladies put him in his place!!