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why i'm voting democrat

Posted By: .. on 2008-09-04
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 Just in case you wondered...... 
 
 
I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better
 job of spending the money I earn than I would. 
 
I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody
 is offended by it. 
 
I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust that the
 bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good
 people. 
 
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if
 it will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt
 away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius. 
 
I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of
 millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive. 
 
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be
 allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give
 the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit. 
 
I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four pointy headed
 elitist liberals need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit
 some fringe kooks who would NEVER get their agendas past the voters. 
 
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don't
 have to hide from us over there, when they come over here I don't want
 to have any guns in the house to fight them off with. 
 
I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry
 whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse. 
 
I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 7% on a
 gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of
 gas at 15% isn't.  
 
 
Makes ya wonder why anyone would EVER vote 
 
Republican , now doesn't it?



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This is the last straw!! - I'm voting Democrat!

I have never once voted Democrat - I have been a staunch Republican for my entire adult life, from Nixon on in, for better or for worse -


Okay, now it too much worse.  Not only has this economy tanked over this last eight years, gas prices are higher than ever and climbing, now this "rebate" is not coming to me/us.  Yeah, rebate - supposed to come to every American who pays taxes to help spur on the economy.  But if you owe any taxes, it isn't important to help the ecomony anymore - they take it away before you even get it!.  I wonder how many other hard working Americans who owed taxes this year got chiseled out of their rebates! 


Obama at least has come from "real people," not some rich senator's family or oil family who has not the slightest idea what normal people go through who work 52 weeks a year, praying for a tax refund, only to find themselves taxed out of any kind of vacation, leisure, or  - - rebate. 


I'm done!  President Bush, I have had it!  I don't like you or your administration anymore, and you and your IRS can take a nice long walk off a short pier - we'll never miss you!


Voting Democrat - eeek
I used to vote Democrat until Clinton was in there and all the crap he did with Monica and the lies he told, he should have been impeached.  Thank God Hillary is out of the running, though Obama is not much better.  I will vote for McCain.  He has more experience, more insight into the real world.  Obama seems to be running on the promise of a NEW WORLD ORDER, which is very scary.  And for him to change the Seal of the US President, and everything else.  Then to think about him going to that church for 20 yrs. and listening to the hate spewed out from that pastor, and letting his children hear that, don't you think some of that sunk in?    I will vote Republican. 
Sigh....the only thing that keeps me from voting for a Democrat...
is the same thing that would keep me from voting for Guiliani...pro choice. Okay...I renig on what I said. If a pro-life Democrat ever gets the Democratic nomination, I would consider voting for a Democrat (which, in the current climate, means about the same as never, right)?
I doubt you would ever vote for a Republican either...was it you or one of your compatriots that said they would vote for their dog before they would vote for a Republican?

Exactly...with my views in the mid-1800's I might have been under the Democratic wing...but would have moved right back out over the slavery issue.

As I have said many times and you continue to ignore...I do not affiliate myself with any political party other than having to register as something by law to have a vote. I am only a registered Republican during primary years.

There are several things I disagree with on the Dem side, not just pro choice...I think you even agreed with me at one point that you thought they were taking enough out of our checks for taxes now and the government should administer it better...was that not you?

I think there are more things that we could agree on...and some things we won't budge on.

My opinions are my own...not given to me by any party or "school of thought." I was against abortion before I really knew what political parties were all about. YOU are the one labeling me and my views as conservative. That's your right, certainly. I do not label myself. I cannot control how YOU label me. I CAN control how I see myself.

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving, piglet.
You remind me why I stopped voting democrat....(nm)
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I agree - I'm a democrat too, but not voting for Obama nm
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I am a lifelong Democrat and this makes me happy, I am not voting for Obama sm
I honestly DO NOT care what color his skin is! I also don't really care that Sarah Palin doesn't have a dingle dangle between her legs either. These things do NOT matter.

I would not vote for Obama because as far as I am concerned, he thinks he stands for being a minority. We are headed into another Depression or at least recession. Education in this country is a sick joke. The housing market is crashing. On and on. It is a LOT of gloom and doom and I can't see where Obama stands on ANYTHING. Milquetoast all the way around.

I am not exactly a McCain fan. I met him in 1976, not so very long after he returned from Vietnam. I was a kid and he had a profound impact. I am NOT a Republican, I DO NOT like their platform and I am NOT a conservative...but by golly I will vote for him. I think he can do the job and I think he has ideas. Some of them are wrong to be sure, but he HAS SOME.

As for Sarah Palin, she is not afraid of much I suspect. She wasn't afraid to bring a Down syndrome child into the world and commit to raising him. She had young ones at home, but that didn't stop her going up for office. Fearless and gutsy, brave and standing behind her convictions, such as no abortions...yes I can respect her even if I don't agree with her.

I looked at a picture of her and I saw someone who will likely BE president, and not the VP in the fullness of time. I saw a REAL woman, not a fake, not a politician. Can she be president without making mistakes? No, but no one else can either. She knows what it is to run a household, so yes I think she can run the country. A woman can tell you it is just the same, only bigger and that isn't important to please all the children all the time, but to get the job DONE.
Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil. sm
The 2 main choices are horrible. They only offer a continuation of the status quo. Nothing on bringing the troops home (now not 5 years from now), no sound monetary policy, reinstating our civil liberties, etc. Third party candidates have better platforms. People should be voting principles over party, or you deserve whatever you get.
Many repubs voting for Obama in my experience..OR NOT VOTING ..only
only a few stragglers left, like the 26 percent who don't hate Bush.

Most people voting for Obama are voting on emotion...sm
You may be the exception.



All that matters is hope and change. At what cost, my friend, at what cost, will your hope and change come at.



He will try to change the very foundation of this country, the constitution, and our very way of life.


If I wanted that, I'd move back to Russia where some of my ancestors came from.


I can recognize socialism and Marxism, even if half the country cannot.


They only care for hope. And change.












Voting present and not voting, who has
the highest record in DC of simply not voting - McCain. Yes, Obama is up there too but ole' McCain is #1 for no votes.
Thank you Democrat
you are right. I'm wasting my time here.
Well said, Democrat! Well said.

Applauding.


Thank you, Democrat
My fingers are crossed too, Democrat...I hope and pray for all of us that our country can repair itself..I have always been an optimist in life, until the last few years..Yes, I will think optimistically..with hope in my heart..Thank you for your post..you are so kind..
Same to you, Democrat!
Hope you had the best day ever! 
Thanks, Democrat.
I've been following this case and have written to the Governor in protest.  Someone has to care about America's children.  It's obvious this particular judge doesn't.
Thanks, Democrat.

He raises some very interesting points, doesn't he?  I'm glad, too, that he wasn't fired.  I wish somebody like him (or he) WOULD run for President because I'd vote for him, as well.  After our invasion of Iraq, how DO other countries know they won't be next, and why wouldn't they want to protect themselves from an unwanted, uncalled-for American invasion? 


We need someone who can straighten out America and make it a much better place and lead by example so other countries WANT to be like us, rather than having our form of *freedom* forced upon them.


No, actually that was DEMOCRAT.

You really need to stop obsessing on me, Nina.  You've made your hatred of me known, but it's starting to get spooky.  Please find another hobby.  You're beginning to resemble a stalker. 


At the very least, you might want to scan the board before accusing me of saying things I didn't.  It will only take you a second, and you will appear to at least have some common sense and credibility if you do so.  Right now, I seem to be your target, and your hateful obsession is quite transparent.


Have a lovely day, dear.


Thank you Democrat..
I have been trying to make 2 points about Churchill for 2 days but it is like free association here. I get everything and the kitchen sink back. As far as Coulter, I was just putting an article out there that I thought was humorous (intended only for liberals as it knew it would offend others and even the heading  I posted  was attacked) and somehow that morphed into I am attacking Coulter and defending Churchill. Talk about pretzel logic. Again, thanks for actually reading my posts and actually understanding what I said.
Thanks, Democrat.

I hadn't read the part where they included the US troops in the mix.  What I read was that the Iraqi Prime Minister wanted amnesty only for terrorists who killed American soldiers and NO amnesty for terrorists who killed Iraqis.  I felt this was a slap in the face to America, and that's the precise reason I'm so outraged over this.


It's interesting that you said that's what you *make of it.*  Every time I've read something on this issue, I walked away just kind of scratching my head because I was unable to grasp an understanding of most of it.  Even the bill itself that was voted on yesterday did nothing but express the *sense* of the Congress regarding this issue.  How can it be so important to take up Senate time, including the debate and vote, when the end result is that they are EXPRESSING THEIR SENSE?  Seems like a big waste of time to me and lends even more credibility to Harold Ford's view that it was nothing but a stunt.


What I don't understand is why 19 Republican senators would publicly place themselves in the position of voting their *sense* that they were in favor of letting terrorists off the hook when it comes to killing our soldiers, given that the majority of Iraqis think it's okay to kill Americans. 


I suppose some sense could be made of the reasoning behind it if we were dealing with terrorists/insurgents that could be trusted, but with 65% of the general Iraqi population thinking it's okay to kill Americans and 88% of the Sunni population believing so, I don't feel comfortable placing any trust in them.


Democrat
I do not and did not excuse Mark Foley. He was wrong. What I have a problem with, is the same people who ask for his head are the same people who excuse the same behavior in Democrats who have done the same thing. Barney Frank...male prostitution ring out of his apartment. Not sure all of them were of legal age. Representative Studd. Had a sexual relationship (not internet) with a 17-year-old page. Not only not apologized for it, but accused critics of gay bashing and that his relationship, with a 17-year-old, mind you...was consensual. These are Democrats, and Democrats did not ask for their heads. But they ask for Foley's head. I am not excusing ANY of them. I find it odd that Democrats do not recognize a pedophile when he is a Democrat, but recognize him when he is a Republican.

No, extramarital affairs are not illegal. PERJURY is. In all 50 states. I didn't hear any Democrat, NOT ONE, asking for HIS head.

I can say without a doubt that they were ALL wrong, all morally corrupt, and all should pay for it. Clinton didn't, Studd didn't, Frank didn't. Foley IS. There is another BIG difference.


Same to you, Democrat! sm
Merry Merry Christmas and God Bless.
I am sorry, Democrat...I just don't get it....
You guys jump to champion Teddy when she has attacked me over and over, just like you claim some conservatives have attacked you...but it is okay for her, keep up the good fight. I am sorry, but that only tends to reinforce the feelings of most conservatives that liberals walk in lock step and support each other right or wrong. Please explain to me how it is okay for Teddy to call me a fool, tell me she cannot talk to someone who is mentally ill, has no common sense, that I defecated upon her...to name a few. Why is that okay for her, and you come along rah rah Teddy, and then complain when conservatives post similar, but not nearly as hateful...posts? Can you please explain to me why that is okay? Because, actually, in looking at your posts, you seemed a reasonable person and not prone to attacking anyone. Is it that same old well, I wouldn't do it myself, but if she wants to do it, I will support her thing?
Thanks Democrat..
Good to have yet another point of view. I have been reading Rabbi Kushner's Book, Overcoming Life's Disappointments. He uses the Old Testament (obviously) and Moses. What I really love about this guy is his working knowledge of so many faiths other than his own and how he can find, quite easily, the similarities...anyway, one thing I found interesting was that he said (and I certainly did not know) the Torah has 613 commandments and more of these deal with the poor (spiritually, physically, financially poor) than any other issue. Then along comes Jesus and what does he say??? My gosh, I think it is the same thing!!! I wish that some of the really right religious people (Dobson, Falwell, etc. could team up with Rick Warren, Al Sharpton, TD Jakes, Pope Benedict, Rabbi Kushner et al) and look at the issues that the Bible addresses other than abortion and same-sex marriage. The most mentioned virtue, it would seem, would be humility and the willingness to serve God by serving others, especially the least among us, no questions asked. In the Old Testament taking care of those in need was an obligation, not charity.
Democrat here
I do check in to see what's going on here once in a while but to be honest all the republican propaganda and lies disgust me.  Thank God the majority of the country isn't buying into it.
I'm a democrat!!!!!!
And I am not one of the two that you say have posted here.  But I am proud to be a dem!
I'm a democrat

I havent attacked anyone on here.  I have no problem with the republicans.  It takes both parties to run this country.  I do feel that we have gotten off on the wrong track and I do feel that Bush has not done a great job.  I dont feel that way specifically because he is a republican but because I just dont feel that he was the best guy for the job. 


I will vote for Obama.  If I had more choices, maybe I wouldnt vote for him.  But McCain worries me and I feel that given my opinions of him, I have no choice but to vote for Obama. 


I am a democrat
I did not vote for Obama.  I have a question for those that did.  Do you read the articles from Reuters and other papers from other parts of the world?  Do you watch foreign news?  Because I do.  I have found that you cannot get the real picture just by relying on our news media and papers.  If you want to get a true overview of what is going on, you have to go outside of us.  Have you not read/heard the news on O?  He does want to make our kids join some sort of community service organization.  He stated that would be mandatory.  He did have associations with people of a sordid nature that goes contrary to US benefit.  And the minute that someone, anyone, posts something that they have read or heard about that man, people become angry and defensive.  I am sorry that you all voted for O.  Can you not see what is happening?  Hitler was elected into office during a democratic state.  I am not saying that O is Hitler, what I am saying is that someone with such extreme ideas has been elected to the highest power and there are many signs pointing to the fact that we are going to see some changes that even those that voted for him are not going to  like.  I think it will be subtle, until one day people are like, what happened to us?  Also, McCain and Palin did not win, so let them be!  I mean come on already, you guys won, let it die.  I have never seen one person have such a following and a following that is so mean spirited. 
Duh! Wow, a democrat is saying that?
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I am and have always been a democrat, but
I don't agree with this at all. I guess I agree more with Clinton's 'don't ask, don't tell' stance. I also don't like how the whole 'gay movement' has attached itself to the Democrats. We need Democrats in power to help get us out of this economic nightmare created by the republicans, and this is distracting & costs us votes every time.
Who are you REALLY voting for?
http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/videos.html
Voting is not a right!!

Please direct me to where in the Constitution that it says that voting is a RIGHT?  It is not a right.  We have a right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness!!


I'm sorry, but I just do not believe that our voting is for nothing... nm
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I'm voting........
For George W. Bush. He stands for everything this country was founded on. He is a true patriot. He is a republican. He's the bestest!! Just ask Harriet Myers. Better yet, why don't we write in Dik Cheney? He's a true-blue American and a republican to boot! He even knows how to shoot a gun! Let's pack the house and the senate with republicans because they have US in their best interest. They are for the people! Just look at the last 8 years - success story after success story. I am living the life of my dreams! Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see which side deserves to run this country! Let's run all these democrats and filthy liberals out of this country!!! My way or the highway!!! We can't second guess Israel. ATTACK Iran!!!  We need to get Georgia hooked up with NATO so we can go to war with Russia (which is Alaska's neighbor, BTW - can see it right from Alaska). Let's all get on the same page here so we are a UNITED nation. End this division of party!! All for one and one for all!! We can call ourselves Republicrats. Feel the love
I'm voting...

but I tend agree with you.  I think it is sad race still matters all these years later, rather depressing really.  You can keep your nose clean, do all of the right things according to society's standards and color still matters.  Why?  Who cares about color what about his policies? Shouldn't they matter more?


blessings,


 


I'm not voting for him because he is a dem -sm
and historically they have raised our taxes. However, I personally think it's awesome that whichever candidate wins, there will finally be some diversity to the office of the president. We will have either our first black president or our first female vice president.
I'm certainly not voting for him but
if he is elected, I certainly would not want to see anything happen to him. That would be devastating. But you're right, the republicans probably would get the blame or if not the republicans, it would take on a racist tone, which would be another blow to this country.
I am voting for O but
i too believe we are in a recession and have been for a while.  But repubs are not the only ones not wanting to admit it.  I have heard NO ONE say it.  They dont want to admit to it, no matter what party.
I will tell them I'm voting for O, but am really voting for M
That's why the polls don't mean anything.

Besides who in their right mind would tell people your not for O because you'll be yelled at and called a racist. Got enough bashing on this board, don't need any more on the phones or in public.

That's why this election may see what is referred to as "The Bradley Effect".
i am voting for o
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Voting all done!

Small polling place, only 4 machines, 1 of which was already belly up and I was just 15th in line.  Anyway, vote is in, and I didn't vote a straight party one button.  I punched each one separately...I wanted to savor the moment!  :-)


I have enjoyed the debate and I for one am glad there are so many in our profession engaged in the process and concerned for the country, no matter which side you fall on.  So, hats off to you, and may the best man and woman win! :-)


 


 


Right, of course! To me, just voting for someone
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voting

you should be ashamed for posting such a hateful insulting post


voting

Sam:  Would you have posted this is McCain had won??


voting
We've been doing that for many, many years now. It doesn't seem to be working. It just seems that even before the Bush admin, laws have been changing and our rights have been decreasing. It seems that many people do not want O in office again. However, if ACORN or any other company is involved in census taking, he will be voted into office again.
Oh yes....voting.
We vote for people and we usually end up voting for the lesser of two evils.  Both parties have shown that they like to spend.  They only complain about government spending when it is their particular party that isn't doing the spending.  Our government is corrupt and until we show them that we are tired of this craziness....it won't matter which lies we fall for and vote for.  I'm truly surprised that Obama voters aren't outraged by all the lies that he has told.  You continue to stand by him and blame Bush for everything.  Where is the outrage on your part?  We are still in Iraq.  Gitmo is still open.  We will all very soon be taxed one way or another.  They are even talking about taxing our health care benefits to pay for Obama's health care plan when he openly ridiculed McCain during the campaign and stated that McCain was going to tax our healthcare and how dumb that was.  I guess now it is okay.  Why can't you see the constant lies?  It isn't like Obama tries to hide them.  He does them so bluntly and fo all to see and yet the mainstream media and his blind followers continue to praise him.  I don't get it?
You might want to recheck that Democrat. sm
gt wished death on George Bush far below and again above!  Not only that, she wished some pretty terrible things on Laura Bush and the daughters.  Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it isn't so.  The thing is, there are two boards.  Nan and AG don't come here.  Get the picture?
Hi, there, Democrat!!! Nice to see you again!

With respect to the 10% tax, I still think $9,000,000 of disposable income goes a lot farther than $9,000, and 10% of $10,000,000 is just a drop in the bucket, compared to 10% of $10,000.


Anyway, my understanding of the "Fair Tax" is that it isn't based on income.  It's based on "consumption." It's (my paraphrasing) a federal sales tax instead of a federal income tax.  And spending up to the poverty level is tax-free, with their "fair tax rebate."


So if someone can afford to buy that 2006 Ferrari, they can also afford to pay the tax.  If someone can only afford a $500 1989 Mitsubishi, they will probably not have to pay any tax if it is considered under the poverty level.


This only addresses federal government tax issues, though.  It doesn't even begin to touch state, county and local taxation.


And from what I've read, I haven't heard what percentage of tax they are proposing. 


So I'm still not sure which I'm leaning towards.  I'm actually sort of swaying between the 10% and the "fair tax."


Nice to see you here, thanks for the invitation, and I agree.  We should debate here.


Wow, Democrat. I expected more from you. SM
It gets personal because it's made personal.  How you can't see that, I am not quite sure.  As for your statement elsewhere that AG and I had left before, nope. Sorry, didn't happen.  I didn't say I wasn't coming back either.    Anyways, how much more personal can you get than wishing someone to die, and I am not talking about the president.  It happened but the posts are gone.  We all responded to the person who told Nan she was old and going to die and burn in hell.  So I guess that's not personal, huh?  Tell me how many times you have seen one of us do that.  As far as debate, we give as good as we get.  I thought you knew that, but guess I was wrong yet again.  Oh well, live and learn!
In all honesty, Democrat. SM

How can you castigate someone for being on the liberal board when you are on the conservative board.  Just pointing out a little pot-kettle scenario.   Like Brunson, I won't be posting on here anymore.  And like Brunson, hopefully you will return the favor.  Have a nice evening.


Now Democrat, you know that isn't true. sm
And again with the "lock step", an allusion to Hitler and Nazis.  Just can't help it, can you?  It was posted on this board the conservative board by at least two conservative posters what they did not agree with Bush on, plus I posted it myself above.  So not true.
That's yellow dog DEMOCRAT to you.
Yellow dog DEMOCRATS. Get it straight.