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That made my day. I needed a lift. nm

Posted By: MT and worn out on 2008-09-04
In Reply to: why i'm voting democrat - ..

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Did you lift this Bukhari interpretation from the
next to it? You know the one...http://msmarciakay.multiply.com/links/item/1
Scroll down to the third entry with Sarah's picture. Just curious, because the exact same nonsense in the exact same words appears there.

The Sahih-Bukhari is not part of the Quran. It is one of 6 Hadith collections that represent word-of-mouth (oral) histories of the life of the Prophet Muhammad. As such, the Hadith has been subjected to interpretation and is not the same as the Quran. The verse you cited deals with apostates...those who have directly denounced Islamic beliefs. Christian doctrine also chastises apostasy. Nothing new here.

The other passage you cite is the Opening. It is the core statement of belief. They pray to stay on the path of the righteous, not the ones who have angered God (sinners) or people who have strayed from the teaching. This refers to the PATH they aspire to follow as Muslims.

I fail to see any radical content here. Please enlighten me.


and all he needed was one win,

as he KNEW he would get it in 2004!!


I needed that :)

He got done what he needed to get done...
before he went back to Washington the only people who were represented in the so-called meetings were senators. There was no representation for the Republican side of the house of representatives. There was no "agreement in principle." The plan as it is now was not going to pass the house anyway, so it would have wasted precious time. We now have 4 guys with both house and senate represented hammering out the details. That is light years away from where it was yesterday, because when they come out in agreement, they will have a bill that will pass without delay. There is no good reason for him to miss the debate now. If he had not gone to washington and asked the president to bring ALL the leaders, house and senate, and he and Obama, this would not have happened. It brought the spotlight OFF the presidential campaign and ONTO the congress to get something done. I think he did exactly the right thing, no matter how the pundits on either side try to spin it. He still has my vote, even more solidly. That is the kind of man I want in the white house. Not one who will handle an emergency like a looming financial crisis with his blackberry instead of his presence in the name of multitasking. It did not take long for me to see where Obama's priorities are. With Obama.
To me he has been way short of Presidential in this issue, in my opinion.

Mccain did not care if it hurt his campaign or what people would think of him doing it...he did it because he realized the importance of a quick resolution and he acted on that. Again, put his country ahead of his political ambitions. Yes indeed, THAT is the attitude I want in the white house. If you prefer the blackberry approach, that is certainly your right.
Thanks, we needed that.
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sarcasm not needed really.

I just was not clear on her preference in this election.


 


that's okay - I just said we needed something in place nm
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Bravo to you, this needed to said on here because she
is the biggest hypocrite of all.
I know - sure needed a laugh here
Lifes too short to let things get to you. Of course people get mad (especially on this board), but after a few new posts it is forgotten. What really made me wonder was a post I read that said the OP was asking someone to be banned for what they wrote 3 or so pages back. Then when I read the witch hunt comment that's exactly what I thought too. Then when I saw both original post and reply I could not tell who was for what and who was mad about what, and it just got me laughing. I'm glad this is topic is turning humorous though. I'm reading all the funny posts and one thing I think all MTs have in common is a good sense of humor.
The mansion was over 100 years old. It needed...
to be upgraded. It costs about $10 a month to run a tanning bed, if that much. Costs more to run a clothes dryer.

Like I said, let's see what has been added to all the governor's mansions in the lower 48 and what THEIR electric bills are, shall we?

She is a maverick in that she does not run in lock step with her party, which is what that term means. While she is a former mayor, she is also a sitting governor, and it is as a sitting governor she is running for VP. More than a few sitting governors have also run for President.
ROFL. Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.
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HA, that was a good one. thanks for the laugh! I needed it!

I would say he has shown it to the people that he needed to -- nm
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The world needed a little humor, and once again,

Thanks! I needed a laugh today.

Yes, we needed the Arab Emirates...
to protect our ports! That was brilliant!! And look what a great job he's done with protecting our citizens and assisting them with the last 2 hurricanes. Heckuva job, Bushie! Don't forget to put Harriett Myers on the supreme court! He must be a brainiac! His instincts are superhuman! Mission Accomplished! - the way he landed on that ship - my hero! he even wore that banana hammock so well!! Woo-hoo! We must be the most admired country in the whole world!!
I found it. I just needed to change
It is something the individual states are doing and has nothing to do with a federal mandate to change the age limits.

**About 30 percent of Americans ages 19 through 29—13.7 million individuals in 2006—do not have health coverage.[2] No longer considered dependents, they often lose coverage at age 19 or upon high school or college graduation. In fact, 38 percent of high school graduates who do not attend college and one-third of college graduates are uninsured for some period of time during the year after graduation.[3]

Illinois is among a growing cadre of states trying to reduce the number of uninsured young adults by extending the time they can remain on their parents' insurance policies. Twenty-four states have moved from allowing insurers to set their own dependent age limits to defining dependent to include older children.[4] Most commonly, these states have extended the dependent age limit to "up to" age 24, 25, or 26. All states require the dependent to be unmarried. Some states set two age limits; for example, Idaho defines dependent as up to age 21 if unmarried, and from ages 21 to 25 if unmarried, a full-time student, and financially dependent on parents. New Jersey has set the highest age limit: young adults can retain coverage as dependents through age 30 if they are unmarried, uninsured, have none of their own dependents, and are either a resident of the state or a full-time student. To protect against the potential for young adults to wait to join their parents' plan until they need health services, New Jersey requires that young adults apply to continue coverage within 30 days from when they would have previously aged off of a policy, or during an open enrollment period.
Billions More Needed for Rescue?

 This is over and above the new so-called stimulus package.


In my local newspaper, it states "More proposals waiting in wings" then it goes on to state "The obama adminstration is developing proposals to help rescue the banking system that could cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars beyond the $700 bililion bailout Congress already has approved.


Details are still being worked out but the administration is looking to spend hundreds of billions more to address the foreclosure crisis, help banks get out from under weighty bad assets and expand liquidity programs."


I'm really starting to get sick literally over this. We can't spend billions of dollars when the money isn't coming into the treasury.  We can't printing money without anything to back it up.


If any of you think these packages will not help the economy, please, I'm almost begging you, email or call your reps and get it stopped.


 


Thanks - I needed a laugh (no message)
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I don't think we'll see what is needed in this country.....sm
...until we look beyond the Republican and Democratic parties. They've simply become self limiting, and the country switches back and forth between them.

I honestly believe we need to look at independent candidates who have NO ties to either party in order for this country to move forward and dig ourselves out from under.....if that's even possible at this late date.
You're welcome, PK. Needed a laugh after so much bad news.

Storm track is not the only news needed.
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I needed a good laugh today.
LOL!!!  This was great.  Thanks for posting it. 
Thanks for that . . . I needed a good laugh today

HAHA


Thank you for that .... I needed a good laugh today.

Bush tell your daughters they are needed in Iraq for a *noble* cause
Oh really, going off the deep end, LOL..by asking Bush and his daughters and other young people in his family to sign up for duty in Iraq since the Bush family thinks it is so important and the *Noble* thing to do?  And Im going off the deep end, LOL.  You are so silly sometimes in your posts.  I see nothing wrong in asking the chickenhawk warmongers to urge their children to join up..after all our country is fighting a *war on terrorism*..or..wait a minute..what is the new saying the WH is throwing out there..*a global war on extremists*..or....oh geez..I need to start writing down the reasons for our blood shed in Iraq..I cant remember all the reasons why we pre-emptively invaded Iraq..Cant keep up with the spin cycle of the WH..
And during a time when Arab linguists are needed the most by the military --

This could actually be funny if it wasn't so stupid.  The question Do you work off duty with the local community theater? speaks volumes.


Servicemembers Legal Defense Network: Army Dismisses Gay Arabic Linguist 'Outed' By Anonymous Email Campaign


7/27/2006 11:02:00 AM





To: National and State Desks


Contact: Rebecca Sawyer of the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, 202-328-3244 ext. 102 or rasawyer@sldn.org


WASHINGTON, July 27 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The U.S. Army recently discharged a highly regarded Arabic linguist who was the target of an anonymous email outing campaign. Former Sergeant Bleu Copas was stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C., and was a member of the prestigious 82nd Airborne Division. A decorated Sergeant who received impressive performance reviews, Copas also performed in the 82nd Airborne Chorus. His dismissal, under the federal Don't Ask, Don't Tell ban on lesbian, gay and bisexual personnel, brings the total number of Arabic language specialists dismissed under the ban to at least 55. Neither Copas nor his command know who was the source of the email campaign.


'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' has become a far too effective, and convenient, weapon of vengeance in our armed forces, said Sharra E. Greer, director for law and policy for Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN), which provided legal counsel to Copas. Anyone with an axe to grind -- a former partner or roommate, or an angry relative, for example -- can end an otherwise promising career simply by employing rumor and hearsay. Service members like Sergeant Copas, who are making important contributions to our national defense, are finding themselves increasingly vulnerable under the law. The only way to protect our men and women in uniform from such insidious outing campaigns is to repeal 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' once and for all.


In August 2005, an anonymous individual emailed Copas's unit, alleging there was an online profile of a unit member identifying them as gay. Despite clear instructions that investigations into sexual orientation are only to be commenced when a service member's command has credible evidence indicating the service member is gay, Copas's command nonetheless asked him about his sexual orientation and went on to launch a full investigation into allegations about him. The command-appointed investigating officer interviewing Copas asked such questions as, Do you work off duty with the local community theater? and Do you know or are you aware of anyone who believes you are a homosexual? He also recommended conducting an inquiry ... into the possibility of further homosexual conduct by member(s) of the (unit). Despite never learning who made the original allegations against him, Sergeant Copas was dismissed from the Army in January.


The ban on gay service members serves no purpose except to further discrimination at the expense of our military readiness, said Copas. Most troops care about their colleagues' job performance, not their sexual orientation, and this law is past due for repeal. Those of us who want to serve our country should not be barred from doing so simply because of outdated prejudice. The gay ban punishes every service member, even those who never tell and the straight troops who lose trusted, and trained, fellow soldiers.


Since 1993, more than 11,000 service members have been dismissed under the gay ban, according to the Department of Defense. A February 2005 report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) reported that the Pentagon has fired 322 language specialists who had ... skills in a foreign language that DoD had considered to be especially important. The report also found that nearly 800 specialists, including intelligence analysts, divers and combat controllers, were fired despite having some training in an occupation identified ... as 'critical.' The House of Representatives is currently considering legislation to repeal the law, with 118 bi-partisan members supporting the measure.


For more information on Don't Ask, Don't Tell, visit http://www.sldn.org.


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Servicemembers Legal Defense Network is a national, non-profit legal services, watchdog and policy organization dedicated to ending discrimination against and harassment of military personnel affected by Don't Ask, Don't Tell and related forms of intolerance. For more information, visit http://www.sldn.org.


http://www.usnewswire.com/


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/© 2006 U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/


I not only have read it, I live it. Jesus also said "a physician is not needed for the well, but
I really do not see very much of that lately, just a spirit of pride, superiority, and many times hypocrivy,which Jesus abhorred and exhorted the Pharisees and Sadducees to be abolish in their hearts,,,you see, I have read and lived Scripture all of my life, but I try not to slam people over the head with it who do not have the same POLITICAL beliefs as I, I can make that distinction. We do not have churches in the Senate chamber, and we do not have Congressman from EITHER side conducting services.
Common sense needed, not book smarts
I'm sorry but we have had too many SMART people running this country...what we need is some people with COMMON SENSE running this country.  I have worked with people from lawyers, to doctors, to laborers when I waitressed and the smartest people don't have a lick of common sense.  THAT is what is wrong with our government, no common sense and no real life experience.  You show me 1 politician who has ever worried about their house payment or car payment or who has had $10 left in their checking acct at the end of the month-you can't because their isn't 1.  They do not understand the average joe because they've never been the average joe.  So how can they help us?
Yup, the Real Republican Party will rise again....new blood is definitely needed, that's for sure

Sham: a spurious imitation; fraud or hoax. No spellcheck needed.
Maybe you should stop worrying about petty bunk and face the issues.

SHAM!
I agree, doubt she would stoop to that. Maybe she needed a break. Or gave up hope. nm
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Yes I do have it made.
I do have it made, and it is well earned.  How much military service do you have under your belt?  How many political action committees have you served on? 
I don't think she has made this

decision without thinking about all she might miss with her kids.  My mom was at a lot of the things I did in school.  However, my dad was at work.  He was supporting his family by making a living.  He was making our situation better by working that overtime so we could afford stuff.  Would I have liked my dad to be at my tennis match.....sure.  But the reality is that even though he wasn't there watching, he still was literally the one supporting me and I appreciated and loved him for that.


As for Palin, did you ever think that maybe....just maybe she is willing to sacrifice time with her kids to make a better country for them as well as all of us?  Have they asked Obama about sacrificing time with his kids?  No....because we all just assume Michelle will take care of the kids. 


Al would have made sure we were . . .
not kissing (notice I did not say kicking) butt over in Iraq to get that oil.  This country would have been a lot further along with alternative energy sources!!!
I made my own
NObama pin which I alternated with an Obama pin (with the red slash through the O as in a no smoking sign). 
thank you SO much, made my day!!
That was truly worth the seven minutes!!
Please tell me you just made that up!!!
Because if you didn't, you're right, that is much more sick.
Please tell me you just made that up!!!
Because if you didn't, you're right, that is much more sick.
NO vaccines are made in the U.S. now???

Or is that another conservative "fact"? 


And, yes, those dang whacko liberals like Robert F. Kennedy and those of his ilk should be ashamed of themselves for connecting the presence of thimerosal in vaccines and resultant autism and attempting to STOP it.  Who cares about the children who are already here?  The most important thing is that we make sure not to hurt those inanimate cells in a petrie dish.


And, yes, it's certainly has been proven that there can be side effects associated with the smallpox vaccine where a small percentage of people might get sick and die.  We COULD maybe let the people CHOOSE whether they want the vaccine or not (if enough of it ever actually EXISTED to protect the entire country), but, no, free choice isn't a very "red" thing to do.  So the only logical thing to do is make sure that we deny the vaccine to all Americans so we can ALL die if terrorists decide to use that as a form of bio warfare. (By the way, I truly doubt that lawsuits will be much of an issue if we're all DEAD.)


Right?  I mean, you "red" guys know what should be allowed and denied in the life of every single American, don't you?  You've got some kind of special "divine knowledge" where you know what I should be "allowed" to do with my own personal body, who I'm "allowed" to love, how I'm "allowed" to plan my family, when I decide I'm "allowed" to die, and which God I'm "allowed" to worship without being doomed to eternal damnation?


 


wow, you made that assumption of me HOW? sm
by the way, the immaturity and silliness of your answer just makes you look like a fool.  Might want to work on that.
Yep, made a mistake, should have been why would anyone BAN you. SM
People do that all the time on the board, don't make a big deal out of it and I am perfectly FINE here.  Why.....feeling uncomfortable?   It's not like you guys don't take pot shots on the Conservative board now is it?
No, only the ones made by liberals.
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SOY was the one who made it personal anyway.
**This fits many on THIS board...To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.**

Maybe you missed that because you've stereotyped, judged and sentenced the liberals already.


Yes! You made my point exactly
They just keep shipping the jobs out until eventually we'll be left with millions of doctors and lawyers!! And who wants that?! :)

Seriously, something has to be done about this. Unfortunately, quite a few politians are paid by these big companies that make profits by off-shoring. We have to start putting major pressure on them to stop.
But who and how would that decision be made
From a legal perspective? Say "convenience" abortions are made illegal. I get pregnant and decide I want to have a "convenience" abortion. However, I know these are illegal, so I say the guy raped me. Who gets to pick in which cases abortion is permitted and in which cases it's not?

This is my main concern. You're preaching to the choir on the rest of it, because it used to disgust me when I would type reports and a woman would've had 15 abortions. I do not agree with that at all, and I don't think there are many who do. But, logistically speaking, again, it's either legal or illegal.
I only made it through the first two paragraphs
I had a nauseating sense of deja vu.
Its me again - you all made me laugh
Just had to write back to let you all know I enjoyed reading all your posts to my "rant" this morning. It's nice that other people see her for what she really is, and sad that others do not. Sure we all want to just up and leave when things don't go our way and nothing seems fair, but as my mama used to say "who ever told you that life was fair", and no I'm not rich like the hollywood people who can leave country at the drop of a hat. So, just to let you know my feelings have not changed about how I feel for her. No, I don't hate her, but I do see her for what she is and I don't like it. Well yeah, maybe deep inside I do hate her. I just wish she would just go away and I wouldn't have to see her anymore, but somehow they always find their way out from under the rocks (Bush & Cheney is included). Anyway....I have calmed down since posting (not not with medication, but with a good dose of reality from all who commented) :-) I don't have anything to worry about anyways though because even if she pulls some of her "maneuvers" and knocks out Obama she will never win over McCain - just a fact. (if by chance she does, then in November I will come back and tell you all I'm eating crow. HA HA HA. I'm also not worried bout it anymore -after all I do have a "mute" and "channel changer" on my remote control. :-)
This one's too easy. Just made my day.

Title of you post is lifted straight out of TT112OldTimer's post responding to Free Speech Rocks.  When spinning soooo out of control that the brain becomes blank, you can always resort to plagiary.  Hello.  Are you listening?  Vitriol out, vitriol in.  You might be shocked by how much respect you earn with just the simple gesture of extending some.  Respect is NOT a 4-letter word. 


 


Common sense is exactly what I used when I decided to attack my own bigoted tendencies back when I was still a teenager.  I did not learn any of that from books or courses I took in school.  I took it to the streets and reaped benefits beyond measure from those lessons. 


 


Au contraire.  The bluster of bigots is easy to bury under fact and logic.  No need to be thwarted by that.  Their reservoir of insults runs very shallow, but the intellect is a well that one can dig as deep as is necessary.  Fact/truth is another arch-enemy of the bigot.  You at least had the wisdom not to attempt to ridicule the context post since you knew you would be in way over your head and besides, you are allergic to the other side of the coin.  As they say, if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.   It can’t be much fun to find yourself dumbfounded by your own narrow mind.  Frustrating too...remember it well. 


 


On the shortcut post:  That was your snipe, not mine.  Snipe begets tripe.  Vtriol out/vitriol in.  Garbage out/garbage in.  Is there an echo in here? 


 


Not the slightest bit interested in agreement, validation or vindication.  I am secure enough by now not to need all of that.  But in political contexts, the journey down the road to consensus will never begin in the absence of flexibility, open-mindedness and a good dose of patience.        


 


What part of my posts reflect your tactics do you not understand?  You absolutely refuse to look at yourself in the mirror, but you do know enough to be outranged when someone sends you your own reflection.  It’s not a pretty sight and furthermore, you become every bit as enraged as you seem to think I am.  You are constitutionally incapable of seeing what a spiteful little vixen you become when your brick-wall logic is thrown back in you face. 


 


No surprise there.  Bigotry is always blind.  Here’s another example you are bound to ignore:  You are so driven by your hatred of illegals that you would actually weigh in on the side of transnationals and cast your vote for the party who empowers them to outsource your profession overseas and drive your own wages into the ground.  


 


Well shut my mouth!  Could it be that you have finally run out of insults in the face of the realities of logic and have arrived on the threshold of the next level where most other right-wingers eventually find themselves...running for the hills and back into the open arms of the choir members?  You are big on cliché.  Here’s one for you...you can run, but you can’t hide.  Have a safe journey and I am “sending up a prayer” that you find the sanctuary you seek. 


no, my mind is already made up
I have been catching some of it (busy with MT and all) but what I really want to see is political commentary by someone who can say these were the good things about the speech and these are the things that weren't good or they should have talked about. Watching Democrat commentary they mostly say everything is wonderful and great speeches, and wathcing Republican commentary they mostly say the speech was lame or ineffective or whatever. Isn't anyone impartial? I'm really missing Tim Russert now.. :(
It would not be an issue if he had not made it one. nm
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