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I thought you used decimals for metric and fractions for standard...

Posted By: bin_swanson on 2007-11-29
In Reply to: How do you type 38,000th inch diameter wire? - ThankfulMT

Subject: I thought you used decimals for metric and fractions for standard...

and I think you need another decimal place

0.0038-inch-diameter
or
1/38,000-inch-diameter (but this = 0.0000263)

and now I really have a headache!


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DECIMALS
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Hi, I have been doing this forever and have always used decimals when doing weights. I used to be an RN and that is the way I was taught. In an ancient text I have it says that is accepted practice to use this. I have seen it both ways and have found it easier to type 175.5 pounds than 175 1/2 pounds. In another less ancient, but still ancient text I found that if you type 175-1/2 pounds you insert an hyphen before the fraction. So, since I am lazy unless they beat it out of me, I will continue to type it 175.5 pounds. It is for decimal system, but 0.5 is still the same as one-half. Right? It is easier to read too. What I want to know is why do they have to try to fix things that are not broken all the time? Some of the things they have changed for the better don't look so good to me. Maybe it is time to retire? What would I do if I couldn't type? Sigh. Sleep, go on trips, go to the movies, sew something, surf the internet, play with grandchildren, bake cookies?
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fractions
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Subject: fractions

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