Excellent post Marmann!!! nm
Posted By: goodnight Bush on 2009-01-17
In Reply to: Bush Presidency - eight years in eight minutes - Marmann
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Marmann - what a great post
Well thought out and worded very well. I hoped for so much from someone who hadn't been in the DC crowd for years and years, but each day am disappointed more and more. I enjoyed the fresh ideas he presented. But, everything has changed from the campaign. It's heartbreaking to see our country headed the same way Germany was with WWII, being run by the same kind of leader.
I do believe you and are I starting to agree on many issues. For me, when I voted for the O I had hoped that things would finally turn around for our country. But slowly any "hope" he offered kept dwindling away. There is no reason to hope anymore because it's just getting worse. He's kept his promise of "change", but he portrayed change for the good, and as we're waking up we are realizing, this is not change for the good. It's getting worse. But he does have quite a way with the words and still makes some people feel good about getting "screwed". But I do not blame the O. He is simply a puppet for the people who are really running the country. He is just a "bearer of bad news". Unfortunately he will be the "fall guy". My best guess is if things keep going this way, he will be a one-term failed present just like J. Carter and Bush Sr. That is of course if they don't change the laws and he be allowed to stay in for 3, 4, 5 or more terms. Don't think they would do it? Well we never thought the constitution would be changed either.
For Marmann's post below..... "big corporations
Why aren't you more concerned about how Obama made 2.7 million dollars last year but claims they are still paying off their student loans? Pleeze! That is definitely "selective ignorance" if ever I saw it. He claims he made most of the 2.7 million on the sell of his books.............. yea, right! I guess you believe that too!
AND you don't think for one minute he has the best little 'ol CPA he can find (crooked or whatever) finding him all kinds of loopholes for his big bucks? Funny you don't seem to care what the leader of your country is doing with his big bucks and where he has his big bucks invested and with what corporations; the same ones he is bailing out big time! Get a clue!
For Marmann's post below..... "big corporations
Why aren't you more concerned about how Obama made 2.7 million dollars last year but claims they are still paying off their student loans? Pleeze! That is definitely "selective ignorance" if ever I saw it. He claims he made most of the 2.7 million on the sell of his books.............. yea, right! I guess you believe that too!
AND you don't think for one minute he has the best little 'ol CPA he can find (crooked or whatever) finding him all kinds of loopholes for his big bucks? Funny you don't seem to care what the leader of your country is doing with his big bucks and where he has his big bucks invested and with what corporations; the same ones he is bailing out big time! Get a clue. Oh no, let's not go there!
For Marmann's post below..... "big corporations
Why aren't you more concerned about how Obama made 2.7 million dollars last year but claims they are still paying off their student loans? Pleeze! That is definitely "selective ignorance" if ever I saw it. He claims he made most of the 2.7 million on the sell of his books.............. yea, right! I guess you believe that too!
AND you don't think for one minute he has the best little 'ol CPA he can find (crooked or whatever) finding him all kinds of loopholes for his big bucks? Funny you don't seem to care what the leader of your country is doing with his big bucks and where he has his big bucks invested and with what corporations; the same ones he is bailing out big time! Get a clue. Oh no, let's not go there!
thanks, Marmann, I miss JTBB, hasn't post since yesterday evening, you o.k?..nm
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Excellent post. Thank you. NM
Excellent post!
Thanks.
Excellent post!
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excellent post, thanks
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Excellent post!!
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Excellent post!!!
My sentiments exactly!
Excellent post
You hit the nail right on the head.
Excellent post - thanks
What an excellent post! Very well thought out.
PS - I did not know hersey moved. I always thought they made all their candy in Hershey PA (I went to the factory when I was little). I'm no longer buying that brand anymore.
Excellent post! nm
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excellent post. nm
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Excellent post!
I couldn't agree more with everything you wrote, right down to getting rid of Pelosi! Bravo! 
Excellent Post.
One of Clinton's major mistakes when he took office was appointing people with little or no experience.
Excellent post - Thank you
It gets so frustrating to have to repeat this over and over and over. The people (or most) that voted for him knows this to be true but they don't care. They don't care that the possible next prez is not US natural born. They don't get it and they don't care. They don't care that our constitution is being violated. Having him in there is going to open a lot of flood gates from people all around the world to now apply for the position of Prez. His staunch supporters knows this and to get around it they will call us sore losers, sour grapes or any other derogatory comment they can think of. For me it's not that I wanted McCain in cos I didn't. I just want the constitution to be followed and a US Citizen to be picked for our president. Then you've got the O strutting around trying to ignore the facts and get away with it. If he is elected by the electorates coming up in a couple weeks, then our constitution and laws mean nothing. Anyone is going to be able to do anything they wanted. Heck, I didn't want Hillary, but at least it's legal if she gets in. Then there is Kucinich, Clinton, and the others who ran. They are all US born, but has to make you wonder why the O skirted up so fast without having to prove anything. Really makes you wonder why he was picked and who was on the COB that picked him.
Thank you for your well thought out post. I'm glad I'm not alone in knowing something is just wrong with this whole thing.
Excellent post....(sm)
I noticed she has several more on there. I'll have to go through them when I get a chance. Thanks.
Excellent post. Thanks.
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Excellent post, sm!!!
I couldn't agree more with everything you wrote. I hope you keep writing posts like this. It's one of the reasons I keep visiting this board.
Hope is something that's been lost for some of us for almost a decade now.
I admit that I'd lost mine, but now I do somewhat have it back. I want to keep it, and that depends on MY actions and the actions of other Americans who also believe in hope.
I think yesterday's plane wreck in New York into the Hudson River is an excellent example of what truly patriotic Americans do when faced with a deadly situation, and it makes me seriously wonder what some on this board would have done if faced with the same situation.
WE need to change this country if we want change. We will soon have a President who actually knows "we" exist and that not all Americans are billionaires. We will have a President who can easily tell you how many homes he owns. We will have a President who will treat the rest of the world as if they are human beings, certainly something they haven't felt in the last eight years and the main reason why the USA was so hated under Bush.
It was "us" who voted Obama into office. I'm (hesitantly) hopeful and happy, and I'm glad I was one of "us," because from what I read on this board, being one of "them" must be a very sad and dreary existence.
Either way, we are ALL Americans, so we can all either get together and help make this country a better place, or some of us can just continue to moan and groan and complain about how bad things will be under a President who has yet to even be sworn in.
I never complained about Bush until he did things to deserve it. The same with Clinton (and, yes, I DID complain a lot about Clinton's actions which I felt were very disrespectful to the Office of the President). I will not complain about Obama UNTIL I truly have something to complain about.
He will be the first black American President, and as such, he has a much higher burden to haul than any white guy if there is ever to be a second black American President.
I'm willing to give him the chance. 
Excellent post!
You nailed it again!!! 
Excellent post! (sm)
"Insults in, insults out." You nailed it.
Earlier today, I finally got sick and tired of all the insults, and I started firing back.
Then I realized that I had sunk down to their slimy level and became someone I normally am not.
I think if religion is removed from the Politics Board and is put where it belongs, on the Faith Board, this might be a more meaningful place to discuss political ideas.
However, for me, it's become too toxic of a place. I can't believe these self-described "Christians" harbor so much hatred and rage. It's really quite frightening at times because I'm not sure there's a limit to what they are willing to do to get their way and overturn the will of the American people.
I think I'm much better off leaving this board for a while and letting the goodness and happiness of life flow back into me because each time I visit here, it really brings me down.
I feel sorry for these people. I hope they someday can look into their hearts and souls and feel some happiness and joy. You are right that their hatred isn't contagious, but neither is joy and happiness. That has to come from within, and I suppose, with all the rage and hate they possess, there just isn't enough room for goodness and light to enter.
Your posts are great. Please keep posting. As for me, I just can't take this hatred any more and need (at least) a break.
Here! Here! Excellent Post!!
Very well stated! I'm with you!!
Excellent post!
Thanks for taking the time to respond to the OP.
Excellent post
Very well said. I actually don't know where I fall politically. I'm not in any party. I just consider myself a patriot. Loved my country enough to join the service and protect it if we went to war (back when Reagan was president). I don't hate Obama and I don't love Obama. I didn't hate McCain and I didn't love him. I think each had their own qualities. Both had ideas they wanted to present to get the country out of the mess we're in. Both loved our country enough to want to make it a better place. There were a lot of other candidates who I felt were much better for the position (R. Paul, D. Kucinich, B. Richardson, and D. Hunter). I think each of them had excellent ideas and qualities. Unfortunately the better ones were pushed aside and this is what we were left with. No choice.
I too do not like being lumped in any political category. I'd like to be able to state how I feel about a topic without being jumped on and called names.
My biggest problem now is that everything is being controlled by one party. My understanding is the government is supposed to be working for us, but unfortunately that is not happening. They are working for themselves and making themselves richer while they destroy the economy along the way and they just don't care.
So it would be nice if we could speak how we feel about an issue on this board without being called names. I'm a person first. A person with very strong feelings and beliefs and it has nothing to do with party affiliation, it has everything to do with being true to my beliefs.
I'm glad there are people like you on this board and all the people that replied to you stating they feel the same way. At least I know I'm not alone.
Excellent post!!!!!
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Excellent post!
I agree wholeheartedly.
Here here - Excellent post
Thank you. Nancy Pelosi needs to be right up there as #1 co-conspirator.
Excellent post. . . . you are so right on
There is nothing enchanting going on in DC. It is time for us to speak out against all the double standards. It is time for the government to fear the people and the people to fear God instead of denying Him and putting their faith and trust in the government!
Excellent post, Reader.
You really hit the target:) And of course, you are absolutely correct. MT has no credibility here, she blew it herself.
And I totally agree with you about lying - that is one thing liberals on the whole despise, but something you'll NEVER find the Cons stating that they hate. They can't, because it's just too easy to prove that lying is a Con way of life and they know it. So they attack us instead:) It's all they've got.
Excellent post, Starcat. (SM)
I suggest we don't feed the trolls. They thrive on it. I personally don't want to encourage them.
Excellent post. Thanks, Lurker.
Fear and ignorance. The only way Bush knows how to lead.
Excellent post! You're 100% right.
Liberals run in tolerant circles. The thought of others letting them *get away* with their own personal freedom of speech doesn't even occur to them. They don't demand that every single American follow in step and say the *right* words...or else. They promote truth and honesty and detest dirty tricks and lies that are designed to benefit the rich, while the poor work harder and get poorer.
I remember once upon a time when people like that were called Americans!
Excellent post, Teddy!
Thank you for your eloquent post. Hopefully, the trolls won't come out to tell you that you are guilty of treason and should leave the country because YOU are not willing to avert your eyes and do not pretend we do not commit atrocities.
You are in good company:
*Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere* Martin Luther King
*The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it* Albert Einstein
Excellent post - thanks for posting -nm
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Excellent post and links...(sm)
Thanks for the info.
Excellent post - thanks (no message)
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Bravo! Excellent post. (sm)
And 100% accurate. I was reading the same posts you were reading. Anything -- and I mean ANYTHING -- they could do to obstruct, they did, just as the Congressional Republicans are doing now.
Obama has kept his word about bipartisanship and has tried to include the Republicans -- meeting with them several times -- but it's a waste of time because they're more interested in obstructing everything Obama does instead of working together with him.
It seems as if some Republican governors are at least giving Obama a chance and trying to work together with him, or at least the Republican governors who care about the citizens they govern do. I think most people can see the pathetic tantrums thrown by Congressional Republicans for what it is.
As far as Bush, I never voted for him, but I wasn't against him, either, at first. In fact, the day he stood in that rubble at "Ground Zero" with that megaphone, I actually began to respect him.
However, that was short lived because once I realized that he was incapable of telling the truth, I lost any trust for him that I had had. It was his ACTIONS that made me feel that way, not his party affiliation.
The PALPABLE hatred for Obama is overwhelming on this board and has been since well before the election.
(Obama now has the same powers that Bush had. Perhaps THAT'S the problem!) 
Excellent post and observation
You saw the same thing I did too. The Queen would never be so low class to point out one's error in front of others. MO should not have put her hand on the Queen's back, shoulder or touched her anywhere. She should have shook her hand and that was it.
Wow! Excellent and Intelligent Post
This is a very well written post. It is very refreshing.
I couldn't have said what you said better - this is perfect. Thanks for posting!
Excellent post!!!! - sorry I'm a little late saying so.
Just read it. Thanks for the reply.
I agree excellent post! One that has to make one think.
I own Mississippi Burning. Good movie.
Excellent, common sense post!
Great points!
Excellent post and very well said. I couldn't agree with you more. nm
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Excellent post. I agree wholeheartedly...m,
Excellent Idea -- not even inadvertent "sam" post
Excellent post - best I've seen in a long time
Thanks for posting. I really wish more people would think like this. I just want someone qualified who will do what is best for the people of the country. It's just not happening and hasn't been for some time. Forget the name calling and who started it. All I know is it's broken and needs to be fixed and this is an excellent way to fix it.
Excellent post!!!! The hypocrisy is astounding...Very good info! nm
Great, great post. Thank you, Marmann! nm
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Well said Marmann
This is one post I definitely agree with you on. Corruption is on both sides. I don't think any one party has any right to lump the other side into one category. I say if you do the crime you do the time and it doesn't matter what political party you belong to. Name me an honest politician and I'll....well actually I don't know what I'd do. HA HA. There are just a few that are decent but that is a very few.
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