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Anyone heard about layoffs from Cbay? sm

Posted By: Curious? on 2007-12-21
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Someone posted elsewhere that they had been laid off by this company.


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CBay layoffs

Where's everyone planning to go now that Cbay has laid off the rest of the editors?


I haven''t heard anything about layoffs..
and I work there...not that that surprises me or anything.    Was this a particular office or just certain accounts?  I'm currently looking for a new job, but I'm obviously curious and would like to pass this along to some of the other MTs so they know what's coming.  Thanks so much for any help!
What do you think of CBay. Medquist has been bought by CBay.nm

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layoffs
the Heartland MTs did not get laid off because they wouldn't or couldn't do weekends, or for poor quality. They got laid off because of the bottom line. I know about the kids excuses, etc., but in this case, it was not the case. They were laid off through no fault of their own. My latest and greatest audit on a report MT'd and QA'd from India - Dictated: Pate is balding. Transcribed: Pate is bowing. If it wasn't so funny, I'd cry.
Layoffs

I didn't even get the invite to the conference call.  I was working one day and started getting an error message that my account number was inactive.  Through a series of emails and phone calls, I found out I had been laid off!  Thanks a lot!  I just found another job working as an IC.  I think I'll be much happier! 


the layoffs...
were about a year ago, so that's not current news. I felt the conference call was superior to any communication we have had in the past. She was up-front about the vendor situation and it sounded more hopeful and positive than previous quarterly meetings which focused on the business end -- this felt more personal and pertinent to what the MTs want to know. Any time I have emailed Patty she has been prompt to respond. The loss of the Santa Clara people (executive level), while unfortunate, would be expected in a business model like this. I agree with the reasoning that it was due to redundancy.
Heartland Layoffs
Were you aware that they already laid off about 30 US-based MTs at the beginning of APril... with only 1 week notice?

I was one of them. They lost an account and simply dumped everyone for whom it was a primary account. They begged all of us to take on secondary accounts not long before that, but at the time of the layoff call they said there was no work on any of the secondary accounts. And, BTW, your conference call sounds exactly like ours.
Heartland Layoffs

First of all, I would like to say that I sympathsize wtih those that were laid off at Heartland, however, I believe that that there were probably indications that this was going to happen, I for one, remember seeing a LOT of job ads for Heartland and they suddenly stopped on the 2 major transcription job boards. For me, that was an indication that something was going down the tube.


I also do not agree wtih offshoring, but when I read the posts on this board, I see one theme over and over; that being laziness in general. I see posts where people gripe and complain about having to work weekends or nights or whatever and wanting to get paid decent money, but they want to only be able to work 8-5 Monday through Friday.  I have been in this field for over 20 years and I believe that I have always pulled my fair share.  I have seen it in the company that I work for now, and the work load goes up dramatically on the weekends, because NOBODY wants to work and as we all know, medical transcription, for the most part, is a profession that is 24/7.


Sadly to say, our society has become one, where we expect to have something for nothing. Meaning that we want the nice thinngs, but we don't have to break our necks for it.  I hear of friends who are giving their kids brand-new to almost brand-new cars in high school.  Heck, when I was growing up, if I wanted contacts, or a car, or clothes, I had to detassel corn or work in a fast food place to get the money to be able to have those things.  I don't see that happening now, and in essence, that is why so many of our jobs have been offshored.  Its not only a cheaper labor cost, but most of these people in general have a better work ethic.


My company takes pride in the fact that it doesn't offshore and it will be a cold day in a very warm place before they do.


My only advice to those that were laid off is to hang in there, send out the resumes and hopefully, you will be able to find a new company that will treat you like an employee and not a number.


 


 


 


Heartland Layoffs

Some people seem to be missing the point here -- I also do QA as well as medical transcription and I generally am working MANY hours a day and usually 6-7 days a week, because I know budget-wise what it takes for me to surviive. 


As a QA person, I see a quality of work that is totally unacceptable and it is from American medical transcriptionists.  I read about people saying they can do X number of lines in an hour, or that they type X number of words a minute and as a QA person, that is usually the persons report that has 10 or more blanks in it, because UNFORTUNATELY they are more concerned about production than they are quality. 


I sometimes wonder how many medical transcriptionists go back and re-listen to a report they have typed and then are able to figure out what the doctors are saying?


I have worked both inhouse and from home and I really have to agree that if someone TRULY wants to get started in this field, then they should work onsite first to truly get a grasp at what medical transcription entails.


There ARE people who are medcal transcriptionists who DO work long and hard hours and ARE getting shafted by the companies they work for, but quite frankly, I am tired of the ones who have toddlers and small children at home and whine about how they can do this work and take care of their kids too  -- just because you work at home, dosen't mean that your children can be underfoot all the time and it is also learning about priorities as well.  If you were working on the outside, you would NOT be allowed to take a huge amount of time off for kid activities or family activities, so the MTSOs do have legitimate gripes when it comes to employees not working when they say they will or keeping to a schedule, and this is where I am coming full circle when I talk about a work ethiic  -- it has slowly and steadily been disappearing over the years.


 


 


 


SPI in another round of layoffs
Last week they announced they were dropping the smaller hospital accounts that used domestic MTs, today they emailed QA staff and had them call in on a conference call just to tell them they no longer had jobs.  So this nice big foreign company who came in and assured everyone how the company would be bigger and better only took 6 months to start weaning out all domestic staff. I wish the facilities knew this.
Focus layoffs?
Why did people get laid off at Focus?  I worked there a few years ago but it was a joke with the editing.  I hope its because work is coming back to US companies and US MTs.
Oh, Lordy... NO Layoffs! sm
Acusis DID have to lay off some MTs about a year ago when they lost a big account. There are NO layoffs currently - unless you know something I don't know.


Yes, Layoffs coming
Red Team teleconference yesterday advised us that company-wide layoffs were imminent, not only for the Red Team, but all teams, including corporate staff. Word is that 27 were terminated today.
layoffs and hires
Can someone explain to me why a company would lay people off and then hire new people?  Were they just getting rid of the riff-raff?
To MsAnonnieMouse below re Heartland layoffs

While there are many employees in all areas who fit the poor work ethic you describe, it is by no means anything but a lame excuse for greedy corporations to do what they would have done anyway.  It goes along with the jobs Americans won't do we hear so much about these days.


I do think the handwriting has been on the wall about Heartland.....er...I mean HEARTLESS for some time.  I personally don't and never have worked for them but I've been hearing for a year or so that their ultimate goal was to do exactly what they just did.  Still one can hardly blame those who chose to stay and watch the ship go down, it isn't like HEARTLESS doesn't have lots of company these days.  I believe I actually read somewhere that companies are rewarded tax-wise for shipping jobs overseas.


Now is the time for all MTs to prepare for the future, although I have no clue as to what career or occupation would immunize employees from the exact same thing that just happened at HEARTLESS.  A casual observer can see the increase in the number of job postings for VR editors so the next step will be unless we are willing to spend all day every day transcribing impossible ESLs, mushmouths, Speedy Gonzales and all their kin, MT is going to be gone.


There is also something to be said for the way MTs in most, if not all, companies are treated.  Here we have QA people who search for MINUTE things or even WRONG things to correct so they can meet their quota or whatever they are evaluated on.  Why, I even had one QA person correct Tessalon Perles that I had transcribed to Tessalon Pearls.  Cold hard fact of life is the suits at the corporations care nothing about quality, they just make a show by saying they have QA people to ensure quality.  HA!  The hospitals care nothing about quality, only the bottom line.  The physicians (most) care nothing about quality, only their insurance reimbursement.  So there you have it, a grim future for all of us.


Lastly, anyone who falls into the jobs Americans won't do and offshoring is necessary because there aren't enough qualified Americans, is nothing short of a fool.  What they mean is Americans can't and won't work for less than it takes to maintain a decent standard of living and the cost of living in the good ole U.S. of A is not cheap.


I have nothing to offer the employees of HEARTLESS other than that my heart aches for them and their plight and I pray each and every one will be able to find a decent place to work in the short term and that they will be looking to see how they will survive in the long term.


GOD BLESS ALL YOU EMPLOYEES OF HEARTLESS, INC.


Wonder if other companies plan layoffs?
Please post so I will know where not to apply.  TIA!
Oh geez, when I saw "ax", I thought we were having layoffs
My heart went into my throat. I normally associate ax falling or the term getting the ax with being terminated. I was relieved when I saw it was only about going to VR!

Whew...time to slow my heart rate down, lol!
The news always announces pending layoffs
and company closures.  If the news would know about it in advance of closure, it would seem like the companies had announced it.
No, they kept me with all the layoffs, and my accuracy rate is upper 90s, so not worried about that
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University of Iowa Med Center announced layoffs yesterday
I think the news report said they were getting rid of 130 people now, a total of 200 this year. Fortunately (their word, not mine), they're not going to have to make any cuts in people who have patient contact but in administrative areas (that'd be us). Truthfully, I'm not sure if they even still have in-house transcriptionists, but you know that if they do, they'll be the first to get their marching papers.
CBay
The hospital I worked for contracted with CBay, closed the transcription department, and a few months later rehired some MTs back due to very poor quality. When posed with the question as to how much of their transcription is sent overseas, i.e., India, the recruiter replied "more than 50%."
CBay

Thanks for the info on CBay!


Sherri


CBay
Thanks for the info on CBAY!

Sherri
Cbay
Hopefully things have changed then. They have been known to come in, hire the existing MTs to help with the transition, and once things are running smoothly they let everyone go and send the whole kit and kaboodle over to India. Our hospital outsourced to them and it has been a nightmare for the last year. Can't wait to see what they do when the contract is up.

CBAY
I can't figure out why Advance constantly promotes CBay without telling the full story. Absolutely nothing positive about this company that I know of. Our facility is dumping them and I wonder how many others are too.
cbay
i lost my job to them. they didnt offer anyone a position. they took it all to india. it is now back in house because of such poor quality, didnt take long, less than six months.
CBay does not use US MTs does it.
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CBay
They must have a great PR firm though. All the articles about CBay make them sound better than sliced bread! The facility I was outsourced from went with them and it was total nightmare. I would love to know how many facilities actually RENEW their contracts with CBay.
CBay
Does anyone know what CBay rates are and do they use domestic people at all
CBAY
I would like information from anyone currently working at CBay, i.e. benefits, pay for transcriptionists and editors. Thanks
cbay
My own client used to use Cbay. Let me tell you they were not happy at all!! It all goes overseas to India. Does that tell you anything??
cbay
I have no idea but the do send work overseas!
Cbay

Does anyone have any info on CBay? Anyone every work there?


Re: MQ and CBay
My daddy used to say Birds of a feather flock together. The union of these two companies is a prime example.
CBay

I was wonderng if anybody who works for CBay can tell me about the company from an employee's viewpoint.  I recently got a job offer but I don't know much about the company itself.  I know they own the majority share of MedQuist.  I also know they have an India corporate office along with the USA one.  Aside from this, I really don't know much about the company operations and don't find very much info reading the boards.    Thanks


CBay
From their 2000 post on net.
CBay and Medical Transcription
Business India Intelligence - March 2000
Dictating to Delhi

CBay Systems of the US plans to use India's abundance of low-cost, English-speaking graduates to become the largest medical transcription company in the world.

CBay Systems, an American medical transcription company, has done things differently than most of its competitors, both in the US and India. While most other medical transcription companies in the US rely on American home-based transcriptionists, CBay is building its business around Indian transcriptionists.

Unlike competitors who have set up in India, CBay does not directly employ its transcriptionists. Rather, its fully owned Indian subsidiary, set up in 1998, identifies potential entrepreneurs who have the managerial capability to set up and finance production centers (data capture and data delivery are in the US). CBay (India) then provides technical assistance, including hardware and software, as well as help with recruitment and training. Once training is complete the centres start commercial operation with 100% of capacity being filled by CBay. Through the Internet, voice data (in encrypted and compressed form) flows directly from the US-based servers of the company to the production centre and the transcribed data is sent directly back.

CBay
Thank you. I know CBay is like sour grapes to some, especially when it comes to MedQuist. I really appreciate some actual information on the company and not just negative opinions.
CBay
Thank you. I know CBay is like sour grapes to some, especially when it comes to MedQuist. I really appreciate some actual information on the company and not just negative opinions.
Anyone currently with CBay? Didn't even know they were still around. Have an ad in
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CBay-any new info?
A hospital where I work has started sending dictation to CBay.  I looked through the archives but there was not a lot of new info.  Anybody know if they outsource?
CBay editing
I truly hope it works out for you, but I was an Editor there not too long ago and I know how they work. They lure you in promising good editor pay, and at first it seems wonderful. But then they start pushing you to complete more and more work. My supervisor actually told me just to fix anything obvious that stood out, but otherwise just to push the reports through. Check the demographics and push them through. I just couldn't work like that, and I left. The reports were all typed offshore in India and the quality was horrible. There was no way I was returning that kind of work to the client.
CBAY OUTSOURCES!
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Need info on Cbay please

Any current or former Cbay employees who can give me any info?  Good to their word?  Good/bad experiences?  Stay away/go for it? 


Thanks in advance!     


CBay benefits?
Can anyone tell me if CBay offers benefits (specifically health insurance) to their full-time MTs?
I worked for Cbay.
They literally laid off ALL MTs and QAs and sent everything to India, after buying up a lot of smaller MT companies. The quality in India is so bad, it most definitely endangers the patient.
Why do you still work for the Q? When it's CBAY, etc, now? sm
And they have cut your pay multiple times, if you are experienced. Be not afraid. I only worked for them for about 10 years because it took them about 5 of that to figure out how to convert my wonderful (YOG) company to the dark side. Get out of there....girl.
Phillippines, Cbay, MQ.... enough said!
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I worked at both Heartland and CBay and...sm
...CBay is the very worst.  The bounced paychecks, they laid off dozens and dozens of experienced US MTs and they treat people like dirt.  Their quality is even worse than Heartland's.  If CBay buys Heartland, my deepest sympathies to all Heartland employees.
CBAY is one of the more unscrupulous offshore
companies. They buy American MTSO's,promising to keep the employees, add those excellent benefits and seem incredibly nice. Then they gradually eliminate the MTs, keeping a few on for editing offshore work. Can't comment on the MT pay? Could be because there aren't any, they use Indian MTs. As well, outsourcing and offshoring are slightly different.
CBAY SYSTEMS - a warning

I'm not a negative person, and I have received high marks with every company I've worked for - including CBay. My opinion on most companies is that one is good for some and not for others. But my experience with CBay was so appalling, that I want to share a word of warning.


CBay has good benefits and they pay for downtime, but the positives stop there and are totally overwhelmed by negatives. The team I was a part of waited for weeks to start our accounts, and we were expected to be patient. Only if you made a point of the fact that you had to leave your other employment to be ready to work for CBay did you receive any compensation. Imagine not being paid for several weeks! Be patient? But that's what happened. Some MTs were paid, and some were not.


And this really paints a picture of the overall working environment. If you were in the know, you could get by a little better than some. For instance, when a virus wiped out the system for about a day, a supervisor said we needed to move our schedules around to compensate. But if you were smart and talked with personel, you learned this was not necessary at all. Downtime should have been paid - period. Some MTs got that downtime and some did not. 


If you are a good MT and pride yourself in your work, you might think you would never get fired, but nothing could be further from the truth. They are very quick to fire people. 


Although my group's part in CBay was very small compared to how enormous the company is, all three supervisors were dishonest in some way, whether it dealt with downtime pay or something else. A couple of us who were better at transcription were often told privileged information and instructed to not tell anyone. Meanwhile, other girls would ask for this information, and the supervisor would say, I don't know. An organization with that type of game playing and dishonesty at the supervisory level should not be on anyone's list as a great place to work.


There is much more I could say, but my hope is to say enough to protect others from making the terrible mistake I did. Sweatshop does not even begin to describe how CBay degrades its MTs. They should truly be ashamed.


Cbay has laid off all of their US MTs and Editors
and sent everything to India. They bought up a lot of smaller US companies and slowly transitioned EVERYTHING to India.  What more is there to say about them?  Bad news.