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"If you expect less than perfection, that is what you'll get?"

Posted By: You don't deserve to have kids, lady on 2006-11-03
In Reply to: Expectations - Mom of 3

That is pathetic.

Someone should report you.



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There is WAY too much of that in the corporate world. And the WHOLE world, for that matter.

One can quite accurately trace almost every evil that exists in the world today down to that one mindset.
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I walk them, but it's prolly not aerobic enough. We stagger down the street from bush to bush and I can see my neighbors shaking their heads, saying "He must drink, my dear. Oh, yass. Probably mops the stuff up. Why, just look at him stumbling around, right out in public! Poor Mrs. TechSupport - she must have the patience of a saint!"
Do you expect...
that an adult who was never taught to shake it off as a child suddenly knows how to do it just because they've become "of age"? At what age do you suggest we teach people that suicide is their own responsibility instead of someone else's?
Did they say when we could expect this?
I could definitely use $1,800.
Well you know, it always happens when you least expect it but (sm)
But you have to at least be out there to ever meet anyone. If nothing else, there are men who like to have just email friends. There is a free dating site called plentyoffish you can go just check out. I have a newly divorced friend who has met some people to date on there. But there are always people who just want to talk also. Or maybe start out with a male walking buddy, something like that.
Why do people expect
You to do something for them, when they know there is no way in @#$% you can do it.

Why am I still here?
Sometimes it is necessary to explain what you expect
Sometimes it is necessary to explain what you expect. Maybe he will or cannot fulfill all your expectations. But maybe he'll learn and also, maybe, you will learn that all your expectation might not be fulfilled.

I'm sorry, but what do you expect the shelters to do? sm

I worked in an animal shelter for over two years.  We go a lot of feral cats in at the shelter.  If they were somewhat friendly, then yes we usually put them up for adoption under the title of "good barn cat."  If you can't get near them, then there really isn't anything to do BUT to put them down.  There is no use endangering the people at the shelters OR the other animals at the shelter with a cat that has been wild too long to tame.  JMHO, sorry if it irks you.  


Believe me, I am a HUGE animal lover (hence the reason I worked at the shelter for so long).  I don't like to see any animal suffering, but sometimes it is necessary.   


What do I expect the shelters to do?
I am not their boss so I can not say what I expect them to do, not up to me. I only do what I can do. I don’t know where you live but here the animals are not kept in so called shelter for 3 days, then put down. This place kills animals twice a week, mostly pits. I don’t take animals to shelters because here the outlook is very bleak for them. I do what I can helping out the furries. What the shelters do is not up to me. Where did you get the idea I expect the shelters to do anything??
Just don't expect a luxurious room unless you are sm
willing to pay big bucks.  Most hotel rooms in New York City are small.  The assumption is that people don't spend much time in them, but are out and about.  Plan on at least about $200 per night.  Maybe a little less if you book far in advance.
You need to go back inhouse is you want or expect that. sm

Problem is, as you know, inhouse has now gone to a company.  "Deserve"' has nothing to do with anything out here.  If you think so, I invite you, form a union. 


Until we have anything near to that. you sign a contract, or no contract, and you agree to cover certain hours, on certain days.  That is the way it is.


That is an extremely fair pay and I would expect
them to do a great job for that. I have had the same problem with them starting out good and then having to go behind them like you said. I would first start out clearly stating what you want done and that you expect a good job consistently, even 6 months down the line. That is what I've been telling everyone I've talked to is that I need a consistent job each time.
If you expect $60K to rain down from heaven think again

My Bible tells me that the Lord will provide (and has provided) for all of my needs, it does not say he will send money raining down for me whenever I get myself into excess debt.  Rest assured that the Lord will provide the faithful with all that they need and plenty of what they want.  It is your right to believe otherwise, but do not step on my Christian beliefs in the process. 


Luke 12:28, "If then God so clothe the grass, which is today in the field, and tomorrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith?"


 


 


I think we expect that kids won't like veggies, and ....
I think that generally, in this country we do a very bad job of cooking vegetables. And, I think that we just generally expect that kids don't like vegetables. I grew up eating a Mediterranean diet. My grandparents and most of my neighbors were Italian immigrants. We lived in a part of NJ where you could grow just about anything. We had lots of fresh vegetables, lots of fish, and my grandmother made all of her pasta by hand with a combination of white flour and semolina. I don't think any vegetable was cooked longer than a minute or two, and there were always piles of vegetables at every meal. It was just part of the diet.

I have a Korean foster son, and he enjoys things like smoked squid legs and seaweed. It's just the normal diet for his culture. Kids in other countries eat all sorts of things that Americans consider ghastly. So, really, I think it's more just our culture. Americans tend to give kids more bland, smooth foods for a longer time, and then later, the fast food, high-sugar, high-fat culture kicks in. It's just so bad for all of us. I remember thinking that roasted peppers were the best thing in the world, and I clearly remember eating them for lunch when I was too young to go to school. I don't think you'd find too many American parents who'd consider roasted peppers toddler food! LOL

That's my theory, anyway.
Thanks both of you! I do expect to make some people mad (sm)
Don't really care. My enough button has finally been pushed!
I cannot stop laughing! You mean you actually expect me to SM

keep the SAME PICTURE???  LOL!   At least if I endure this today I have a slight CHANCE of a better one!!  


 


I live in PA. . . not sure of my options, but I'm headin' for the mirror right now to FIX STUFF!!!  


Sorry to say it, but life doesn't always turn out how we would expect.
My DH and I have been home together for over a year now. We both lost our jobs, and we're both working part-time at home now. Sometimes we drive each other nuts and need a break. Sometimes it feels like we're joined at the hip. We often finish each other's sentences. Other times we just stare at each other because we have nothing new to discuss. It's definitely brought us closer instead of driving us apart. We have a lot of common interests, and we're motivating each other to pursue new career fields. We do take the time to get out of the house once in a while.

More and more people are working from home now. The problem is that the home worker needs to not isolate him/herself. Sounds like your DH has done that. Doesn't he have any friends or hobbies? Any outside interests?
I would expect your choice to go tonight and the reason?
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Public board. Expect many different kinds of posts.
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What else would you expect in a state that brings you Hillary Clinton.
nm.
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get it today.  I will get mine by mail.  I wonder how far off it comes from when they say it will come.
thanks! :) I'll see if he'll ask some female friends SM

Thank you everyone!  It has been great reading all of your responses!  Goodnight!!  "See" you all tomorrow!


Hugs,


Chickadee


I'll buy them ... sm
Of course I am teasing you. I love Longaberger baskets, but I can understand them not being everyone's cup of tea. I am sort of in the same situation with my father-in-law. He gives me the most God-awful stuff. He is retired, has no money, and feels the need to buy me something. This year he gave me an outfit that a 17-year-old girl would have loved. I am 42. I just smile and say thank you. Really, I keep telling my husband I would rather him just keep his money, but I can't hurt his feelings. I would just take the baskets, smile, say thank you, and put them in my attic as an heirloom for my grandchildren or something. They are beautiful and surely someday one of your children or their spouses might like to have them. Just a thought.
i'll take abc any day over any of them....

Thanks! - I'll try anything (sm)
That might possibly help me to avoid surgery, except for the book slamming thing! T
you'll see...sm
Her "rockstar wannabe" look...hilarious! She's just too...eeww...for me anyway.  Something about her creeps me out.
I'll have to try it.
My Avon rep from work quit because she claimed that they would only send her half the order and her customers were getting upset.  My mom does Avon through a friend and she has bought me necklesses from Avon when I was little as well.  That friend has been doing Avon for 40 years.  She is in her mid 80s now and wants to give it up but her son won't let her because that is the only thing that will get her out of bed anymore, so he helps her with it.  It is hard to find reps around here because do it for a few weeks then quit. 
Thanks, I'll try it! /nm
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LOL, no they'll be
okay with it. It's only my parents coming over. My hubby dooesn't really like her dressing anyway so he won't care! And the kids, they could care less! I have a small family on my side. Hubby's is the big one and we're not going over there until my parents leave here!
I believe I'll try that.

Thanks - i'll try that
Will let you know how it works.
I'll take that one better

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Now there's Lil Rust, Baby Face, Tuxedo, BC (stands for black cat), Dusty (resumbles a cotton puff with legs and a face), Gypsy, Willow, and Gizmo. Scooter found a home.

Anyone get the impression that I love cats?


I'll second that!
No malls or shopping for me!!
I'll second that!
I have only done it once though because I feel incredibly guilty doing it...well make that twice...I did it tonight too. :)
What you see is what you'll get.

What you see is what you get. That is what they told me in ground training for my private pilot; of course, they were referring to the weather, but it holds true for a lot of other things and situations.


One thing about long-relationships that I have learned is that the only person you can "change" is yourself. So, if your significant other has any kind of habit or personality quirk that "bothers" you before entering into marriage, that same issue will be there after you've married no matter what the other person "promises" to do or don't do.


My boss once called me into his office (I thought I was in trouble again!) and asked my opinion about his marrying his girlfriend. He said he wanted to marry her, "take care of her," but that he could not "stand" the fact that she smoked. He also said that she promised to quit smoking after they got married. I told him basically the same thing, what you see is what you get. I also told him that to expect her to change, even with the promise of doing so, was unrealistic and that he would have to accept her as she is...smoking and all, even after the marriage. No matter what quirks the other person has before the marriage, they'll still have the same quirks after the marriage. She did try to give up the smoking; however, she eventually failed and resumed the smoking. Apparently, it was more than he could stand, and they ultimately divorced. Of note, he was a control-type freak whose idea of socialization was snuggling up to the TV set and eating pizza, and she was a free-spirited social being who liked to be around a lot of people. He did do some socializing, going out dancing, going out to eat, etc. to placate her, which was really totally against his nature. He knew beforehand what the issues were but chose to go ahead with the marriage, thinking that he could get her to change. She did'nt. What he saw before the marriage was what he got after the marriage.


The issue then becomes not what the other person will do to compromise but what you will accept, knowing full well what the other person's habits and quirks are and how far you are willing to go to accept that fact and be comfortable with those issues. If you are uncomfortable now and feel this is a significant issue for you, this will be the same after the marriage. Don't expect him to change. The only person you can change is yourself.


You can either accept him as he is and you, yourself, do the compromising, or you can move on to find yourself a more compatible life partner. If you choose to continue the relationship, however, do not feel guilty about "dragging" him along to any social events or worry about his socializing with the others. If he truly did not want to go, he wouldn't have gone in the first place. Maybe that would be his way of compromising for your issues.


Walking away from somebody you really think you love is tough. I've done it, and it does hurt for a while, but it is a whole lot less hurtful than divorcing. As I look back upon that decision, I know that it was the right thing to do. There will always be a "soft spot" in my heart for him, but I know that I could never really stand "to stomach" some of his quirks on a regular, life-long basis.


You need to do a lot of soul-searching about this. I wish you peace and happiness no matter what your decision is.


Margo


 


I know I'll let her go -
There's a saying that when an emotional decision has to be made, the right thing is usually the hardest thing. She needs to be able to fly. I'd never try to manipulate her into staying. Not my style. And yeah, I know I'll survive. But I don't have to like it!
I'll look into that, thanks. nm
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AI - Who'll Go
I think it'll be Matt. To me it's getting really hard. Everyone left is very talented in my opinion. It's just going to get harder in the next week or so getting down to the wire.
You'll be okay

Deep breath.  In.  Out.  Okay.  You'll be okay.  Be as calm as you can to the investigator.  Explain it like you did here and they'll definitely see the truth.  Cleaning the house sucks, I know, but you'll get that done, too.  If the crap your husband has left around is too much to fit in the trash dumpster, see if you can sneak it into a store's dumpster at night.  Or an office building who doesn't lock theirs.  I used to take stuff to the dumpster at the office where I worked and even after I left, I took stuff there a couple of times.


Frankly, everything that was his would be in the trash.  If it hasn't been touched in the last 6 months, it has to go.  Get the kids involved, too - especially if they're on board with you and hubby splitting up, which if I remember correctly, they are. 


Good luck.  You'll be okay and you'll come through this onto the other side.


Keep us posted as to how things go, okay?


Either go with me or I'll go by myself
Well, I tried to get old I don’t want to leave the home to go. You see, hubby is a truck driver and he said before we married we would travel. He does and now he seems to want to "do things around the house" for his vacation. I have 2 vacations planned this year, both with 2 different groups for me but I thought perhaps he and I could take a few days and go to Orlando, Sea World and just get out of town for a few days. He had his chance so now probably around the end of June I plan on a) either driving down to Florida or b) flying down to Micky Mouse town, renting a vehicle and taking my own self to Sea World. Anyone else out there have such a hard time of getting hubby to join in on their outings?
I'll see her tomorrow and ask.
I'll post then and let you know.
I know I'll get slammed for this sm
I have broad shoulders!    What kind of wimp would hire a sitter to watch their kids and clean their house while they type at home?  I had a phone line installer tell me his wife does coding at home and takes the kid to daycare.  He couldn't believe I worked at home plus took care of kids.  My son is 13 and in the National Juniors Honor Society- straight A's.  My daughter is in 1st grade and reads on a 4th grade level.  I read to them at night.  I played with them during the day.  What a bunch of lazy people that can't work at home and take care of some kids for goodness sakes.  You have to take breaks.  If you are working for a company that requires you to sit and type for 8 hours straight with no breaks/lunch, you are the fool, not them!  I wouldn't tolerate that for a minute!!!!!!!  Is that why everyone is so unhappy here?  I talk to the neighbors!  I answer my phone!  I do my laundry/load dishwaser, clean litter box, dust furniture.  I go to the grocery store!  I take my kids places!  And I still make 50 K a year!  SuperMOM!!!!!!!  And someone says they wait until their teenagers aren't home!  Paleeze!  Teenagers????
Hopefully in a few months we'll both...sm
be bragging about our new babies. I haven't had morning sickness yet - didn't have it last time either, so we'll see if that develops. I'm spending my lunch hour from work napping each day and sleeping after work for a while. Hopefully I'll wake up before the baby is born in September. :o)
I'll tell you exactly what will happen.
If you don't buy it, everything will break. If you buy it, everything will break right after it runs out. lol. I bought a blazer a couple years ago, bought an extended warrantly and literally a month after it ran out my fuel pump burned up, some motor for my blinker burned out, had to get a new alternator, new battery, new tires (due to neighborhood felon in the making), driver side viser broke...I think there was more but I can't remember at the moment.

Anyhoo, good luck! :-)
you'll love it!
Let me know how much fun you had!   
I guess you'll never know!

You'll qualify for the....sm
FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) which is designed to allow people up to 12 months off for an approved absence. The criteria is listed on the US Department of Labor's website at: http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/fmla/ During this time your employer must keep your position open and have the health care benefits available. You would be required to pay the premiums. No company is required to pay for leave of absences and very few actually do in the US.
I'll try to answer as best I can sm

I'm no expert only having this done on Tuesday, but I am not sorry one bit. I put mine off for 2 years before I got the guts to do it. I had only 1 molar left and couldn't eat much of anything. I think I will feel a whole lot healthier when I can go back to raw vegetables for snacks like I used to eat many moons ago.


I had 3 teeth pulled about 6 weeks ago simply because I was having extreme night pain and had no other choice, one pulled one week and the other two the following week. That solved that problem. The rest (all 15 with 12 shots of novacaine) were done all at once. That's how I wanted it done. I can't stand getting teeth pulled. Had a bad experience with an oral surgeon in my teens that left me with such a fear of dentists that I didn't go to another dentist for 5 years. My dentist now was fresh out of school and opened up his practice here in town with all of his new ideas and we have been with him for 25 years. Don't let anyone kid you that new grads are worthless. He was great. He calmed me down when I was shaking like a leaf with my teeth chattering in fear.


Lastly, I do like how they look. I like how my face looks with them, too. I've never been told I had nice teeth but I had 4 compliments on them just since Tuesday. I think once I get used to eating with them and keeping them in place, things will be much better. I do have to get used to NOT having them in, and that's what I hate. I guess I have to keep them out for about 8 hours a day to heal this sore spot. I don't like how I look or speak without them. My face feels caved in and my lips kind of flop around and I talk funny without them. I guess since I won't be going anywhere without them that it shouldn't be a big deal, but I'm real self conscious about that. I do have to get that sore spot healed, so I better listen to the boss.


The only thing I hate is the cost, around 4500.00. Half that was just the extractions. I could have gone to the dental school, but they are 2 hours away and I don't have the time nor the patience to drive that far for dental work. You can get it done real reasonable going that route from what I understand. 


Well, that'll really teach her...
A lesson won't it now?  I mean being confined to a mansion with servants, cooks, etc., and nothing to do all day but swim, tan, whatever else she does...wow, talk about injustice...amazing
I'll play
Marriage - Great.
Lack of kids - I regret not having the energy, interest, selflessness, or hope and faith to have kids, but I have never felt the need to have kids. I think you are supposed to see your mom enjoying motherhood, and it appeared to me to be very unsatisfying for my mom. I can still remember the switch from playing with baby dolls to playing with stuffed animals instead.