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Anyone had a relationship with a person in jailr or prison?

Posted By: Stella on 2007-06-19
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Is it someone you knew or have you gotten to know them since they went to prison? Do you write them or visit?


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No. I believe she should die in that prison bed.
We gave as much tolerance as possible by letting her live, which - in my opinion - would have solved this whole situation years ago.

She is free to execute herself if she wishes.

I don't care if she is different, saved, rehabilitated. It does not excuse her hideous crime. She is there because she put herself there.

JMHO
do you think that is what happens in prison?
uh...
if that was the real case, that would be worse, but that's NOT the case
Well when I worked at a prison...

The first week I worked there (in 1990) we had a lockdown because the prisoners were rioting and throwing their TVs off the catwalks onto the guards below.  The riot was because the warden had temporarily taken away their cable programming.  The whole block had to be tear gassed before they calmed down.


You really need to educate yourself on prisoner's conditions and rights - you don't have a realistic idea of what incarceration is like.


Jail/Prison

My BIL has been in and out of jail many, many times. He always says it's much better on the INSIDE than on the outside.


Let's see...they don't have to work, yet they get fed, a bed, clothing. They don't do their own laundry, yet they have clean clothes and linens. They get cable TV, take college classes, eat 3 squares a day, work out and get buffed up...so they can riot and overpower the guards, play cards, basketball, make phone calls...all at our expense!


Yeah, poor prisoners...they sure do have it tuff...


First castration without anesthetic...then prison.
But that's just me.
Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

You know how you can tell a GREAT movie?  When, even if you have the video with no commercial interruptions, if you're flickin' on regular 'ol TV and it's playing, you will stop and watch it...complete with editing for time and commercials.  Airplane is one of those movies I will stop my flick-fest and actually sit down to watch and laugh every single time.


Same goes for all the Leslie Nillson Naked Gun flicks and pretty much any parody.  Oh my gosh, LOVED Hot Shots with that older Bridges guy!  


....I'm feeling a liquored-up comedy movie marathon coming up real soon!


 


 


Hope he becomes someone's wife in prison. nm.
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This is why I despised working in a prison
That ridiculous non-fraternization rule.  It also applied to non-guards (I was a clerk in the business office).  I was supposed to report to the warden if an ex-con even said hello passing by in a grocery store, I was supposed to be psychic and know who every ex-con in the state was, and if they happened to be an old friend I hadn't seen in 20 years I was supposed to snub them and run away, even if neither of us knew the other's situation until halfway through the conversation.  If I didn't fill out paperwork and send it to the warden to report every single innocuous contact, my job was in jeopardy.  IMO, there's a difference between becoming best friends with a con with friends still inside, and just living your freaking life in a community where there are bound to be cons here and there, and they happen to speak politely to you when you bump elbows!
no problem-prison inmates will kill him....
       
Martha didnt know how to stay out of prison. Why
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Does life in prison sound good to you? I would
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"Do that again and I'm taking you to the Baby Prison"
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Help. I have made my own prison. Please make suggestions sm
I will try to make this brief. I have marital problems, husband is gone all the time. I came to work at home again because I have no help with our children.  I need to be here if they are sick and be here when they get home from school.  But I have become once again socially isolated (I did this type of work for years and had a job outside of the home and enjoyed it, except for the fact that my children did not get enough attention, so I quit).  I do have friends but I don't see them or talk to them often enough anymore.  I used to walk several miles a day but never do that anymore, have gained weight, eat junk food, stay on the computer too long.  I am constantly busy.  I still do volunteer work with my children - Scouts, church, etc., but I am so overwhelmed.  My husband is almost never here.  It almost feels more like he comes to visit us sometimes than actually lives here, but I need his help financially and my son is very afraid for me to get a divorce (long story, but he is afraid he would have to live part-time with his dad, and they are not close).  I have debt that my husband doesn't know about and would be extremely angry over. I can't sleep because of this.  But he won't give me money for things we need, so I have often ended up charging things.  When I tell him I need more money he tells me things like, "turn off the cable TV" or don't go out to eat.  The thing is he spends lots and lots of money on entertaining himself. He makes 3 x as much as I do (or maybe 4 by now).  I have not been allowed to open his mail for years and we pretty much never talk.  I have started to allow things to pile up, mail around my desk, weight around my middle, clutter here and there.  I just feel like a big slug.  I am tired much of the time.  In reading this I sound depressed but I am already taking an antidepressant which I started a few years ago because of my marriage. I love my children so dearly but I am afraid of leaving and disrupting their lives.  If I left I would at least get my part of the equity in our home, etc., and maybe have a chance at having a life again.  Anyway, I know this is long and rambling and jumbled, but I just woke up, from another night of poor sleep.  Please suggest what you would do.  Thanks 
OJ SIMPSON GOT 15-16 YEARS IN STATE PRISON
for the Nevada crimes. I bet the Goldman's are jumping for joy.
As a civilized society, life in prison without parole
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Are you a night person or a morning person?
Just curious . . .
I don't know about that - guys like that usually suffer in prison - even most criminals hate chil
He would probably get what he deserves better in prison - from the other prisoners, as long as they don't let him out!!
How is your relationship with God? If not God, do you have sm
any spirituality in your life at all? I was exactly where you were....then I found Jesus. Late in life. He has given me purpose and pure contentment.

Nothing satisfies like Jesus and I've done it all: Alcoholism, rx drugs, bad relationships, etc.

Now I'm teaching a Bible study class, have a thriving marriage (after a horrible divorce) and am just very, very peaceful and happy.

Whenever someone like you comes to me with thoughts just like yours, I tell them about God and His saving grace. Will pray for you that you find the contentment you are so searching for.
relationship help

My fiance and I live together - been together 4 years - living together 3 months - supposed to get married this year. . Most of the time, everything is great.  He gets stressed out about finances, makes a rude remark to me about my lack of house cleaning ability, I get mad and go off by myself for a few hours - he gets even madder and starts saying our relationship is over, etc. . He leaves for several hours, comes home and we make up. . I am having a hard time with this. . I feel like I have to react a certain way or this whole blow up is going to happen. . I love him and know he loves me - I just don't understand how something so small can turn into something so big. . Anyone with any advice?


MIL-SIL relationship has nothing to do with
SIL's feelings for the daughter, just like MIL's feelings for him have nothing to do with her feelings for her daughter.
relationship
Is this how you want your life to be because he will not change even if he decides he is "ready" to marry you. Everything he does now he will continue to do. You definitely deserve better. Good luck.
she was in control of that relationship
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Yes, your relationship will change sm

The first three months or so you will both be so tired you won't know how you can possibly make it, but you will. If you have family close by to help, that is great (I was an Air Force wife, so we were far from both our families). Hopefully, though, you will start to see your husband in a whole new light. I know I did. He had never had much use for children before, although I knew he loved animals, so that's always a good sign. He would spend hours playing with our cats, and he loved to sit and watch TV with one or both of the cats in his lap. To me, that showed a loving heart.


He had a lot of learning to do, but he became a wonderful father. Seeing that, I fell in love with him all over again. He became much more open emotionally, primarily with our son, but some of that spilled over into our relationship as well. And having a child together bonds a couple together like nothing else. Here is this wonderful being who is a part of BOTH of you, and who you both love like you never thought you could love another human being.


Sure, there will be difficulties. There will be times when he wants sex and you are so exhausted all you want to do is sleep for a week. There will be times when you are so focused on the baby you won't realize you are neglecting him. But if you are aware of all these possibilities, you are less likely to let the situation go on so long that it becomes a problem.


Good luck to you, whatever happens.  


The whole relationship should have been a no-brainer
Frankly, I thought he should have been given more punishment myself, but I don't think the DA/ADA really put a lot of effort into it. As I mentioned, they were going to accept the SIS until I pointed out that I didn't approve on the basis that it's not like another conviction would be destroying a lily-white record, at which point the ADA flipped through the file and said, "Wow, this guy belongs in jail." Going into it, the 'scoop' on the judge were that the 3 things he hated most were drunks, deadbeat dads, and woman-hitters, and the ex was the trifecta (he's about $1100 behind in his child support), but somehow he got to skate away. I do have mixed feelings about the sentence; I wasn't really injured, but on the other hand that was only because I called before it got worse.

I have my own share of self-esteem issues, which is why I stuck it out as long as I did. The only thing Dr. Phil ever said that made sense to me was, "We generate the reality we think we deserve." So I'm spending some quality time channeling Stuart Smalley and doing my self-affirmations, have blocked his phone, and am generating my new reality.
re the relationship with your daughter...
My sister-in-law, a wonderful woman, has a 30-something daughter, and she is struggling with their relationship.  She has recently decided to let things go for a while - for her own sanity.  She tells me that there have been problems with their relationship since her daughter was just a child.  It pains her to think that she may never have a good relationship with her.  My sister-in-law has 2 other children that she has a wonderful relationship with.  I think, sadly enough, that sometimes it just works out that way.  We have discussed the possibility of her daughter having psychiatric/emotional issues that could be hindering the relationship process - I don't know whether or not that could be an issue with your daughter.  The bottom line is, in my opinion, you can only do what you can do.  I don't think a parent should EVER give up on their children, but there may come a time when you have to realize that it is what it is, and you just have to accept that and worry about taking care of yourself.  Good luck to you.
Dont know where your relationship has gone wrong but
my husband and I have been married now for 7 years and he is feely, smoochy, kind, considerate, loving, can have a grab each and any time he wants it. I thank my lucky stars to have found him at my late age. I dont know what has turned the love to disgust for you but I do not feel normally this would be a turnoff for most women, certainly not me. My love just deepens every minute we are together. I will say that I have an ole high school friend (this is her second marriage) that says identical things as you are saying. She and the fellow have no children together but frankly, I would not stay because of the children, never. Your children will suffer in a situation like this. My children grown when I met the present husband but I was divorced, raised the children and would not subject them to more unpleasantness. I think my friend and her husband will come to divorce eventually. Just do not believe you can overcome the disgust when it should be pure heaven by his touch.

a believer in God, personal relationship with God

My spirituality comes from many places...


Mother Teresa said:


People are often unreasonable and self-centered.  FORGIVE THEM ANYWAY.


If you are kind, people may accuse you of ulterior motives.  BE KIND ANYWAY.


If you are honest, people may cheat you.  BE HONEST ANYWAY.


If you find happiness, people may be jealous.  BE HAPPY ANYWAY.


The good you do today may be forgotten tomorrow.  DO GOOD ANYWAY.


Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough.  GIVE YOUR BEST ANYWAY.


For you see, in the end, it is between you and God.  IT NEVER WAS BETWEEN YOU AND THEM ANYWAY.


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And that, my fellow MTs/MEs, is something we all should contemplate!


Have a GREAT week!!!


 


I agree - no kids, why do they have to have a relationship?
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does anyone besides me have a bad relationship with a grown daughter or son?
with one of your grown-up kids, or is it only me? My oldest daughter and I do not get along, never did. I love her, but am not sure if I like her. She is very selfish and self centered and it's all about her. Everyone else see's it but her. Of course, there's a lot more to it, but last night she sent me a letter saying basically she's done with me.....not sure at all where this is coming from. I really, really don't need this right now. So, is anyone else in any kind of a similar situation with an adult child? She's 38.

I'm so glad you have that type of relationship! That's how it should be. (sm)
She has every opportunity to come here and let them get to know her and then they would probably be happier going to her house. She is always so busy every time they see her. I would love for them to want to go to her house. It is so ridiculous for people to say it is me influencing them.
Death of someone you have a close relationship
even if they are not related by blood.

In 1990, my husband and I decided for the first time since we had been married to spend Thanksgiving with his family instead of with my family (we always did a Sunday Thanksgiving with his family before because my family was so large and his family was smaller).

My father died that Thanksgiving night. It took me 10 years to forgive myself for not being there that day. I have empathy for anyone who suffers a loss around a holiday, but hey, that's just me.
I'm glad they have a good relationship, too, but it's NOT
superficial to know your spouse's past history including his education.  Why be so secretive about something so mundane?  Is she going to love him any less (or more) whether he did or didn't finish high school - probably not.  Is it going to change how he treats her now if she knows - probably not.  Even if it changed everything about their relationship, she's still his wife, and to not know his education level after 30+ years of knowing each other is just a wee bit strange to me.  Once again, in my opinion, he's supposed to be her best friend, her confidante, the one person in the world she can trust anything to.  Why the evasiveness?  JMO
I feel so sorry for you. Please rethink your relationship with this man.
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Long Distance relationship
I think you answered your own question without realizing it. You still want to see new places, experience something new. To move back would mean you would probably never get to do those things...they are dreams you have, don't live your life wishing you had done what you wanted to do. Great relationships are easy to have when there are so many miles between you, when you are living together everyday it will be a whole different situation. Right now you have so little time together you make sure those few hours are perfect or as close to it as they can be. If you stay in this LD relationship you can still move someplace else and see exciting things, you will just find a way to see each other from another location.

What would you do if you got a fantastic, once in a lifetime, can't turn it down opportunity for something tomorrow, would you take it or would you throw that chance away to move back home where you don't really want to be? When you answer that question you will have your answer.
Are you considering a long-term relationship
with this gentleman? If so, you might want to give some serious thought to his money issues as they could very well become your money issues.

His joke was probably just an attempt to be funny, though rather clumsy and thoughtless. Since it bothers you, you could discuss it with him and tell him why it made you angry and base your next move on his response.

It would be his actual money issues that would be of greatest concern to me.
I mean:..'not a very close relationship....nm
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once the trust is gone, so is the love, and the relationship..sm
be completely honest with him..now, before he gets out of rehab. If he is doing it only for you or to get you back, it is never going to work and it is just a matter of time before HE feels comfortable enough to start drinking again. You sound pretty sure that you want it to be over, so see a lawyer and start divorce proceedings now. don't wait for him to get out and start things all over again. You have to be up front about YOUR feelings, as well. Do not lead him on thinking there is hope. If telling him how you feel puts him back into drinking again, that is his problem and not yours. It would only serve to prove that he was not serious about stopping drinking anyway, and helping himself, but only a means to get back into your life. Do not take on the guilt. He is responsible for his ownself, and you are responsible for you. But do not let his expectations of coming back go on any longer. He has a right to know how you feel now, before it is too late. You already know in your heart that things will go back to the way they were before, if you let him come back. Show him how serious you are, be honest, and start the actions you need to extricate yourself from the situation. He will not change.. trust me on that one. I have been there too.
y huby and have pretty much the same kind of relationship as you mg
We have both learned where our strengths and weaknesses are. When our children were toddlers and it was bedtime I began losing my patience. Their constant getting up and fighting sleep didn't seem to bother him, so he handled bedtime. We share homework duties, I do the laundry and most of the cooking, he and the children clean up after dinner. He likes to cook on Sundays. It has been working great for 19 years.
Well, any healthy relationship should be close to equal
My husband works FT and still helps out a lot around the house. I only work PT, so I usually do the cooking, helping our daughter with homework and most of the cleaning. My husband always cleans the kitchen after I cook (and vice versa) though and he cleans the bathrooms. We also alternate doing the laundry. So, I'd say everything evens out to be pretty close to 50/50 in our relationship. We are truly best friends and we treat each other as such, and I would never dream of "serving" my man - that's just a ridiculous statement! I even had that part taken out of our wedding vows! If it becomes a problem where you feel like you're being taken advantage of, then you need to sit down with your husband and let him know that he needs to pull his own weight or you won't be happy. Good luck!
I have a love/hate relationship with the thing.

Keeps me roasty toasty...In that picture there the wind chill put the temperature to -25, the kind of cold where your eyes steam and then that steam frosts your lashes up.  It's very dangerous. 


HOWEVER, these coverall things are designed for dudes with no curves, so the crotch winds up going down to your knees and you wind up walking like a penguin.  I have wiped out in it and I feel like the blueberry girl from Willy Wonka where they have to roll her away.


No way, no day would you find me in California or anywhere outside of New England.  It's best I don't venture too far away from my mental health care providers, know what I'm sayin?



I just some at Tractor Supply I've got my eye on (Man, I'm such a hick!) that are actually specifically tailored for women, so a set of those are on my wish list along with that split keyboard. 


 


Can you close the door on your relationship and not look back? sm
Of course, you will need to be in touch for the sake of the children, but you as a person need to be able to look back and have no *what ifs* to ponder about.  You need to know in your head you have turned over every stone and mustered every bit of strength in your possession and tried everything you possibly could before you end this.  Otherwise, it will forever sit like a huge weight on your back and make it hard on in life.  You also need to be able to speak about your husband in an objective manner for the sake of the children.  I agree with the other poster who suggested counseling for the children.  Please consider that no matter what else you decide for yourself.  Oh, how I do wish my parents had done the same for me as a child.  Their relationship has left me with wounds so easily reinjured and made some things in life very tough for me.  Best wishes to you.
relationship question, pls need confirmation/advice

A younger (like 20 years younger) has fallen for me.  He knows what he wants in life; tired of the young girls who play the mind games, etc.  What are our chances of having a good relationship together.  I am definitely attracted to younger men always.


Thanks for any advice or any experience you may have.


long distance relationship - dead end?

I've been in a long distance relationship for over a year now. About 1000 miles apart....we see each other once a month and it's great for the most part. We miss each other a lot, talk everyday, and almost never fight. We get along great and truly prioritize and look forward to our meetings.


Our only problem is....the long distance thing has no end in site. Neither of us are planning (or willing) to relocate to the other's location just yet. He feels that I should 'come home' back to where our friends and family are, where we both grew up.....I feel he should get out and experience new things while we are young.


I still want to see new places, maybe move again, experience something new again, and am simply not ready (if ever) to move back. So what should I do? Bite the bullet and move back? Does this mean we have reached an impasse that will not work? Sometimes I worry that we are on a dead end road, but I could not imagine splitting because we have such a great relationship.


ANY relationship based on lies is doomed to failure

Your relationship is truly blessed and an inspiration to others. Congrats and Love long! :) nm
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Normal nerves, BUT you and your relationship w/hubs will change & evolve, hopefully
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It probably varies from person to person (sm)

With me, first child I was out of the bed seriously within 5 minutes of having him.  I didn't tear or have to be cut, he was 7 pounds, 3 ounces.  The doctor did some type of vaginal massage on me though while I was in labor and that was supposed to help loosen the vaginal wall?


Second child, same experience.  She was 8 pounds, 1 ounce and within 5 minutes of having her, while they took her to the nursery to get cleaned up and all, I walked downstairs with my husband to the cafeteria to get a drink and stretch my legs.  I had already put my regular clothes back on as well.  My doctor who delivered her was walking in my room as I was walking in and he was stunned a second and said he thought I was a visitor, LOL, not the patient.


I don't think you have to have bed rest in normal cases.  With my son I went home within 24 hours with him and with my daughter we went home in only 20 hours.


He sounds wonderful...sounds like you two have a relationship (sm)
based on love and nothing superficial at all. I'm glad you appreciate him and are so grateful for him. Best wishes & continued happiness to you both :-)
No, I am not that person...sm
Nor am I trying to be ugly...I think YOU come first in this situation.  If not, you'll get in deep trouble with your health, then what? Your family needs you...take care of yourself, and make your husband pitch in...that's all I'm sayin'
Who is this person?
I have no clue who this person is. 
I saw a person having 1 of those 1 day
and they could do like all the other people around, just ignored it. I was in a public building, guy down and frothing at the mouth, not a good scene but totally ignored.