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Hoping for some words of encouragement on 16 YO daughter. sm

Posted By: need help desperately on 2008-07-22
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Hello everyone. The saga continues. We have had her grounded since Friday and I saw her Psy.D. yesterday who gave me some advice. She said the best thing to do is to try to be nice and try to work with her in a positive manner, but in small steps. She said that if she decides to leave, there's nothing we can do about it, which I already knew. She said to voice that to her and let her be the one to make that decision, but supposedly that would take the power away from her. She also said that it was useless to try to keep her away from her friends, as she would do whatever it took to be with them. So I came home and told her that I loved her, did not want her to go, but the ultimate decision was hers. I gave her the cell phone back and told her that for her to be able to keep it, she needed to be civil so we can keep a civil atmosphere in the home and no more call me names and cursing at me. She agreed. That was yesterday. I told her that we would take things slow and she would have to earn back her privileges. Well, that's just not good enough for her. She wants it all right away, her way and when she wants. Wants to go out as many nights as she chooses and since it is summertime it is not fair that we don't let her go out. Unbelievable. I told her that we were unwilling to do that and the grounding stood through to the end. After that we would see how it went and start with one night out a week. She can't seem to grasp the concept that at 16 she cannot make these decisions.

Bottom line, I think it will be inevitible that she will at some point leave. I made her an appointment to see this Psy.D. on Friday, but we'll see if I can keep her here long enough for that and whether she will be willing to go.

I am at my wits end. The counselor said I needed to be patient and to continue to be nice. I think that would be easy to do if I saw that my daughter was willing to do her part, which she is obviously not keen on. I almost feel like I am wasting my time and I am so discouraged by her lack of wanting to participate in this.

I guess I have to prepare myself for the worst. This is so hard.

Thanks for listening.


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Thank you for your kindness and encouragement.

I really have no worry that I would act on this.  I just don't get any girl time with my friends to talk about these kind of things heart to heart.  I was trying to be honest and acknowledge the weirdness of it and I was looking for someone who could say yes, they know what I am talking about, and maybe share their own experience.


Thanks again, you are a sweet lady.  


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any words of wisdom?

We have opened our home to a lady and her son (formerly our neighbors) who have been left homeless after her husband left her for another woman and stopped paying rent, thus they were evicted.  She is functionally illiterate, but she is trying to find work, and has worked in the past.  We are doing our best to make her feel welcome and be a support system during this difficult time. 


Before she came to stay with us, I made sure the bedroom (actually my daughter's bedroom, who is now sleeping in the spare bed in her brothers' giant bedroom -- really no problem there) was comfortable and furnished the bed with an electric blanket, a down comforter, a quilt, and a trunk with extra blankets, as this bedroom is at the corner of the house and if the door is closed it gets quite chilly.  When the weather dropped down to subzero, I got out a little tabletop fan/heater to warm up the room before she went to bed, which I do in my room also, because I can't sleep with a cold nose.  However, now I am finding that, even with the temperatures in the 30s outside, she is running this heater all night long!  I'm scared to see just how much this is going to raise our electric bill, and I don't feel it is necessary with an electric blanket.  I don't want to offend her or make her feel unwelcome.  She is in a delicate spot.  Do you think I should just let it roll off my back, or should I ask her to turn the heater off before she goes to sleep?  What would you do?  It's not going to break me, but things are really tight around here anyway, and more so now that we are feeding the two of them and providing transportation for them as well.


Your thoughts?


 


I do not have any words of widsom, however...

What you are doing for this lady is just amazing--bless you!  The world needs more compassionate people like you


Just a thought though, maybe she is afraid of the electric blanket?  I have one friend who refuses to use one, even though her own home is absolutely freezing.  She said one caught on fire when she was a kid (like 30+ years ago) and she will never use one again.  Is privacy an issue?  Could she leave the door to the room open at night so the heat from whatever the other source is can warm it up a tad? 


Again, I think what you are doing for her is just AMAZING


says who? you, with all the capped words?
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I never said that - don't put words into my posts....

no need for sarcastic posts


I said pot.....


all you mentioned is most assuredly highly addictive...


been there, done that - need no lectures from an anonymous sarcastic poster 


Thanks for those words, yes, I am looking forward - sm
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Thank you for all your responses and words...

...of encouragement!  I've always been strong and considered myself to be a 2-legged workhorse, often out lastingmore limber 'kids' and even men when it comes to doing heavy-duty tasks, so to be completely worn out after only a few minutes of mildly strenuous activity is a major bummer to say the least. 


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I've been tested for Lyme and that was negative.  The other blood test did have letters...I'm thinking it was that ANA thing but not 100% sure. 


The only thing I've taken for pain relief is Tylenol or naproxen but neither work really well and that naproxen just eats my gut away.  This early winter certainly isn't helping and I've been dreaming by visiting Realtor.com of finding some place else that's not as artic. 


Oye.  Time will tell.  I have another appt this Friday so we'll see what happens then.  Thanks a bunch for listening and offering me advice and well wishes.  They are all appreciated like you have no idea!!!



Thank you for your kind words - NM
NM
Thanks so much for your kind words
Under my first post, I wrote what the reasons were for that counselor to be so grouchy, and the principal apologized. No matter. The kids are happy to be back at our old school and so am I. Your note here did cheer my day!
Probably just put together the 2 worse words
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Have you said those exact words
to him, asked him outright what is the problem and how you can BOTH enjoy it? Or..guide his hands and/or touch him the way you want. Otherwise I'd say he doesn't care and maybe you should move on.
Thank you for your kind words...nm
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