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I have a 17 year old daughter, a senior.

Posted By: NYMT on 2008-11-04
In Reply to: A survey. See inside - dizzi

She actually doesn't ask to be out during the school week. She's in drama club and working on college applications and homework. If she did ask, I think as long as her homework was done I'd probably let her be out until about 9:00. Her bedtime isn't until 11, but she needs the wind-down time. Weekends, it's midnight.


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She demands one day a week that she can sleep out whereever she pleases and I should be okay with that. I am not. I am at my wits end. She swears she will leave if I "don't leave her alone".

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2. I no longer let her take the care whenever she wants, as I don't trust her.

3. She can socialize with her friends and I will pick her up and drive her within reasonable distance close to home.

4. I can even learn to live with the drinking, as long as she gets home safe by my picking her up or having a safe ride home.

5. I don't want her sleeping out any more.

She is fighting me tooth and nail and is swearing she will leave the house if I don't "leave her alone".

We used to get along so well or so I thought, and now I find out she is a complete stranger and not at all the daughter I thought I had.

I am so depressed and don't know what to do. I don't want to have to tell my husband, but she is leaving me no choice but I am scared to death that she will leave. The worst part is that she knows my fear and is using it to get to me.

I desperately need some good sound advice.

Thanks and sorry so long.
I have a 13-year-old daughter myself
And as long as it was during the day, I was home, and she stayed where I could see them I wouldn't have a problem with the boys being at the house.

As for the pizza, trust your gut. I do let my daughter go to the pizza place in our town, but we live in a very small town, and I only let her go with her brothers (14&15) or with another girlfriend and I put a time limit on it.

It is something that girls her age are allowed to do, unfortunately, to many of them have no limitations at all. Only you know how far you can trust your daughter.
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I have known for about a year that my daughter has been smoking from time to time.  I made it very clear to her that this was very unacceptable and absolutely would not be tolerated. 


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My daughter had these last year on her shoulders
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We live in a moderate-sized town outside Seattle.  Usually the threats are phoned in; I don't know if there's ever been a note.  Evacuation, police, dogs.... one time they stood around in a rain/hailstorm for over 2 hours while the school (7 buildings on her HS campus) was searched.  She and a friend looked around the field where everyone was corralled and said, "gee, if someone was really going to plant a bomb, they'd put it here." 


What can you do?  If the police search the school and give the all-clear, I say send him back in.  It's a miserable decision to have to make either way.  Just my $0.02.


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has a paper due at school that was assigned a week ago, she procrastinated and didn't start writing it until the afternoon before the due date and didn't type it up until 11 p.m. at night, then knocked on your door to wake you up because she realized there was no printer printer would you:


A.  Get dressed and go to the 24-hour Wal-Mart to get paper.


B.  Tell her that it's too bad- she should have done her paper sooner than this and alerted you before 11 p.m. that there was no printer paper - especially when she has gone through a whole ream within a month printing out things like rock band and television star photos and other nonessential things.


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No, that is her daughter. This is her 19-year-old son. Looking for link. Will post.
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16-year-old daughter-need advice desperately
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At least now he knows and he can help me handle it. If she does run away, at least now he knows. I told her I love her more than life and I am doing this for her own good. She just reiterated how much she hates me.(sigh)

Thanks for all the good advice everyone. Please pray for me and my daughter. I never thought being a parent could be this hard.
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I am some years your senior, but still young looking and seem to SM

be attractive to men.  However, I found that men felt they had been there, done that. . . and the only thing they were missing was what you pointed out.  I literally met a man who was married and divorced five times.  Thanks, but no thanks.  For me he HAS to be a nonsmoker, very occasional drinker, etc.  


My sister and I agree that after we were with a man a time or two it already became quite evident why he is divorced.  I know this is not always the case, but very often it is.  I met a man one time, and I must respect this, who told me sadly that he had the most wonderful woman in the world and he cheated on her and lost her.  He said he takes 100% responsibility for the breakup.  He said it was the worst mistake he ever made in his life.  There are exceptions to every rule, but more often than not I found the ones who were looking for one thing and had no desire to begin again and have a future with someone. 


How old is the child? First grade or senior in
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First day of college. I was a freshman and he was a senior.
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It should be between the daughter and the friend if the friend is going to pay any of the fees. They are teenagers, not preschoolers.
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Won $2,000 on slot machine on New Year's Eve. What a way to start the year. nm
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Set my budget a year in advance, save all year and
nm
What a difference a year makes! Last year, sm
we had the same problem.  Fines everywhere for watering.
Paid $60,000 on principal last year and this year
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Two of the children at the party ran home at about 6 a.m. Jan. 30 and told a parent they saw the boy and woman having sex, according to 911 audio.


The parent then called police at about 6:15 a.m., according to a police report and 911 audio.


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I agree - a mother is a mother and a daughter is a daughter for life sm
despite the problems they had, which i truly believe stem for anna's drug problems. obviously her mom wasn't too bad or she would not have raised daniel for a while. i think the mother wants her buried in Texas so the grave will be close enough that she can go visit it without having to come up with expenses of going to the bahamas to get there. although i contradict that too in poor anna needs to be buried with her son.
A 17-year-old would have the same goals as a 20 year old (sm)
Only the 20 year old is hopefully more responsible and based on what you say about his character, would be a better choice than someone her own age.
I have a 9-year-old son that sounds just like your 10 year old...
Lately he has been so negative about everything...trying to make him have a good summer and whenever I take him somewhere, he is just a brat when we get home...I think they are called tweens at this age...not quite teenagers but have the attitude like one---LOL
We skipped it entirely last year, and THIS year?

This 40-year-old got dumped for a 30-year-old
http://www.gqmagazine.co.uk/CoolNewStuff/Photos.aspx?StoryID=53859
This year will be our 35th year
The first couple years it was literally 5 or 6 times a day every day (more on the weekends). Over time it gradually slowed down (once a day) and over the past few years its been 2 or 3 times a week. Not sure that is average or not. There were times were I felt it was too much and him not enough, then there were times where I wanted it more and he didn't. Guess everyone goes through a phase. I guess because of how long we've been together, now it's just comfortable - nothing exciting about it. Just a routine. I have to make it exciting in my mind and pretend I'm someone else.

I don't know what it is, but you are correct...after awhile the lust and infatuation wears off and you get in a routine. I guess for us it was that we really didn't know each other when we married (we dated for 3 weeks then eloped). Once I got to know him it was too late. Now 35 years later it is just comfort (and amazingly we never once used birth control and never had any kids). My mom still tells me she's amazed at the frequency of our encounters that not even once did I even have a "close call" with getting pregnant.

But 35 years once or twice a week and 3 or 4 times on weekends. Not sure if that is normal.
Yay for your daughter!
Glad to hear it!
My daughter did twice...sm
and everything did turn out okay. She was very concerned and upset of course but her doc was very positive with her, explaining that there are a lot of false-positives for some reason or another. Good luck to you and try not to worry. I know that is easier said than done though!
Yes, with my first daughter. sm
The test results were actually quite bad. I worked at a doctors office at the time and had the blood drawn there. When the results came in from the lab the four family docs I worked for called my OB and all five had a sit down, serious talk with me. I was extremely frightened, but knew I wouldnt do anything drastic if it was truely Downs. My daughter turned out 100% fine. No Downs. Nothing. With my next two daughters I skipped the test all together. I knew I would never terminate due to Downs, so I left it in Gods hands and skipped that part of testing. All three of mine are fine. That test has too many false results.