Tough Love advice. My 19-year-old daughter is making me nuts..
Posted By: Stressed out Mom.. on 2007-09-15
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I don't even know where to start with this one but I'll just to give a short summary. My 19-year-old daughter has been troubled since I can remember. For example, her terrible twos went beyond that..if you didn't peel her orange right, she didn't want it and would throw it across the room. I think her diagnosis is best described as ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder) and bipolar. She has a quick temper and at age 5 blackened her 12-year-old brother's eyes with a book because he got in her face. She has annoyed everyone she has come into contact with. She is very immature. We have tried everything to get her help because once she became a teenager it just got worse. She is self-destructive and I became the enabler and now it is out of control. She would not go to school so she does not have an education. We had to call the cops numerous times because of her violent outbursts. We had her arrested when she stole our credit cards so she could learn a lesson but the courts did nothing. She was supposed to be court ordered to have a job and attend school, of which she did nothing and there was no punishment. She has never suffered any consequences no matter how hard we tried. She was charged with 10 felonies for the credit card theft but got nothing. She just batted her big blue eyes at the judge and it all went away. I have paid her rent for a year or two, bought her a car and paid for it. All of these of course when she had a job but right after I did all of this she stopped going. She got into meth..You would not believe my heartbreaking nightmare. Some days I just don't think I can take another minute of it. At this point, she is now homeless because I just cannot keep paying her bills. She just totaled the car so she has no car and no job and still wants me to pay her way and she has lost her license due to DUI and driving again without privileges. It never stops. How far do I take this? She calls me for money that she says is to eat but if I keep giving her money then what is her motivation to go to work. I kept thinking if she hit bottom she could only come up..but she likes the bottom and just hovers there. She adapts to any environment. So when does she wake up and do you think tough love would work on a child with mental issues. I paid all of her doctor bills so she could get help and on medication but just found out she hasnt been taking them. I know I have so many questions but I have no idea how to "fix her" anymore. I know she needs to help herself but how much is she actually capable of being on drugs and mental health issues. This is devastating to our family and when I don't help her she becomes suicidal and I want to just hang up because I know she is manipulating but what if this is the time she really does something. I tried to take her into the hospital because of her meth addiction because she finally asked for help and was told there really wasn't any programs for her because she didn't have insurance so I left just thinking.."well, I guess you'll have to do it on your own, there is no help." Now, that is heartwrenching. At some point, I know she just has to grownup, but I don't know if I can survive this. I'm stressed 24/7 and sadly whenever she calls I get such bad anxiety. I can hardly be around her because she is so manipulative and I feel guilty that I try to avoid her. I always thought it'd be different if I just loved her more, spend more time with her and so as a mom, I blame myself because she is so messed up. Guilt just fuels the enabling.. Help.. any suggestions, advice??
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My daughter had it over a year ago and
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My 16-year-old daughter smoking
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I am at a loss here. She is a pretty good girl, an honor roll student, has lots of friends, but still loves to spend time with her family. I have grounded her in the past for this, but apparently that didn't get my point across. I would love to hear from parents with teenagers who have been through this before and have suggestions on how to deal with this. Also, I'm almost afraid to ask, but any ideas why the filters were cut off the cigarettes?
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Dear 34-year-old daughter
I call because I am lonely. It is really quiet with all you kids gone and someday soon, when your 3 are grown, you will know too, and then you will call nonstop. That is just what we do. Yes, I do call your brothers and sister when I am lonely also, but your right, you are closer and more convienent. Sorry about the wallpaper....once again, I am lonely and needed help. Deep down, you know I care and I am not trying to be critical of you. My intent is there, maybe my approach is wrong. Someday though...you will reach for that phone 3 times a day and it will not be me on the other end, enjoy it while it lasts.
Poll time... if your 15-year-old daughter....sm
has a paper due at school that was assigned a week ago, she procrastinated and didn't start writing it until the afternoon before the due date and didn't type it up until 11 p.m. at night, then knocked on your door to wake you up because she realized there was no printer printer would you:
A. Get dressed and go to the 24-hour Wal-Mart to get paper.
B. Tell her that it's too bad- she should have done her paper sooner than this and alerted you before 11 p.m. that there was no printer paper - especially when she has gone through a whole ream within a month printing out things like rock band and television star photos and other nonessential things.
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latest update on 16-year-old daughter.
Well, I did it. I told my husband. He had a good stern talking with her about how what she is doing is not good and will not be tolerated, and told her that the rules were expected to be abided by. He grounded her for 2 weeks and we took away her license and car keys. She is beside herself and of course hates me more than anything because I betrayed her to her dad. Go figure. Anyway, now she states that there is no way she will stay in this house and will just run away. Or she will get a job and as soon as she can get some money together, she will emancipate herself from us. My husband told her that if she runs away, the next step will be something like military school. What a mess. He says we have to be tough or she won't get the message. This is so hard for me. I feel like I lost her. She wants nothing to do with me. I just hope and pray that someday she will understand that I did what I think is best for her.
At least now he knows and he can help me handle it. If she does run away, at least now he knows. I told her I love her more than life and I am doing this for her own good. She just reiterated how much she hates me.(sigh)
Thanks for all the good advice everyone. Please pray for me and my daughter. I never thought being a parent could be this hard.
I have an 18-year-old daughter and we charge her rent...
I think it teaches them responsibility and what the "real" world is like, there is not a free ride and to be accountable. The rent we charge does include groceries, cell phone, etc. She just pays my husband and I a lump sum at the beginning of the month and it covers all expenses at home. She buys her own clothes, make-up, personal items and even helps with her college expenses at the local community college. I think it's a great idea!
It's my daughter's name too! I love the name!
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If you love your daughter and she loves
you, this will be solved. But, I would not change the way I am. I would try to talk it over with her. Are there specific problems that cause this estrangement?
I mean, your daughter is no teenager anymore that her behaviour could be excused.
There are children who will always see in the mother first of all 'the mother' and not 'the friend'. And sometimes this is caused because the mother always acts as a mother toward her children.
I think your daughter should mellow down and respect you as her mother and show her love for you, same with you. There has to be a way to achieve this, communicate and compromise.....
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Are you NUTS?
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I can't even respond to that 'cause I'm trying to ward off the impending stroke.
This looks a lot like it - except it did not have nuts. TY!!!
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I would tell MIL that she is nuts for doing that - sm
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She is nuts...sm
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10k is nuts
Someone is taking you for a ride. You could get 1 from either of these and easily get a decent sale price for it private party.
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wonder if it gets the complimentary bag of nuts, too. lol
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I don't think your nuts. In fact...
I just noticed my back STOPPED itching. I had an itchy back for the longest time...always rubbing against doorways like a crazed grizzly bear rubbing on a tree trunk, using a coat hanger to scratch myself, bathroom towel, you name it.
I think what was causing my problem was my chair! Whatever the fabric was on it was causing my back to get really heated and probably caused it to sweat and caused the itchies. I have a new chair and it just dawned onto me that I don't itch anymore! Well, I mean aside from the usual wintertime dryness, but nothing like before.
Anyway, it's just a thought. By the way, I'm jealous that you have Valium. Always wanted to try the stuff but no one likes to prescribe it anymore it seems. I just down some cheap wine instead. Works just as well I guess.
Hope you get some relief soon!
I know it is nuts but true
Plus, that includes labor, not just the price of the engine.
No you are not nuts, just what iffing yourself - sm
and you know most people your age are out at the bars on the weekend, hanging out with friends, meeting new guys, etc. Part of the reason I have told my kids to wait until they are at least 25 to get married. Sounds like you have a good life though, don't blow it thinking something better is out there. Maybe you can have a girl's night out once a week or twice a month or whatever to break up your routine. Sounds like you are afraid of getting into a rut. I have been married for 13 years now and see how our marriage has evolved from being on our own to two years, then having two kids, and the changes the years have brought to our lives. I don't do nearly as much as I did when the kids were little because I work more now, which I need to change. I go out with friends when I visit my family, it is my only time I get out without my DH, though my neighbor and I have been discussing going out, we still haven't, need to do it and say to the guys, we are going out, see you later! You are just a little restless and bored, and there is much you can do without compromising your marriage over it, get some new interests, do something new with your DH, do the girl's night out every now and then, try bowling, whatever. ---I have an ex-boyfriend whose wife (who had been my best friend until she started dating my ex--her choice not mine) decided after being married 4 months that she was not ready for marriage (after two years of dating and living together). He cried on my shoulder about what happened, she wanted to party every weekend (and did with her friends leaving him home alone), he was more of a homebody. They were both 23 at the time. So they were divorced after a 4-month marriage. After that he always wanted me to meet his serious girlfriends. Happy to say he is happily married to a girl who kind of looks like me though 10 years younger (she did not like that when she met me, has not been friendly to me since then-- doesn't understand I never wanted him "back") and has twins with her. He is in CA now so I have not seen him in a while but glad he found happiness. Believe me you don't want to toss your marriage due to restlessness and apparently a 2 year itch.
Poor kid; two nuts for parents :(
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Ice cream with any kinds of nuts in it
Black walnut, butter pecan, chocolate almond. My mouth is watering.
Mine is exactly the same way, drives me nuts- sm
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Nuts..wouldn''t open for me. nm
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Yeah, only the nuts go that early; I get up about 8 and go then - sm
my neighbor is going at 4, I told her she was nuts. I don't go to get anything specific though, I just go for fun. I am pretty much done shopping already for the kids, just need stocking stuffers and a few gift cards and I will be totally done. Most of the early bird sales last until noon or 1 p.m. so why kill yourself.
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