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I would call the school counselor and

Posted By: sm on 2009-03-11
In Reply to: toddler wants to shoot my family - Tab

let them know what is going on. They can then contact the family.


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That's beyond the pail for all of the people at this school.  I'm really sorry you have to endure this.  It sounds like you don't have the option here, but this is clearly why school vouchers are so important so parents can be "pro choice" about their kids' education.  Rest assured, it all comes down to the NEA, who is drunk with power. 


O'Reilly Factor had a perfect example of this on Monday's show in the "Is it Legal" segment about how ridiculous schools have gotten.  You should be able to open it up on the link below. 


Good luck to you.  Hold on to your core beliefs and continut to "do the right thing."


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I would call the counselor out of concern for this child. nm
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School counselor defensive?

I really need some input here.  My family recently moved back to our original house because we could not sell it.  The school they were zoned for before we moved back seemed okay, the children thought it was fine. We thought we would wait until the year was over before going back to the original school in our neighborhood so they would not flip flop.


My little boy who is 7 recently had problems with a reading group teacher who wanted him to be in a play.  It was a big part. He is shy and I did not hear of his fear until they were into practicing.  She said either do the play or get a zero.  He asked if he could make up the grade. She told him to do a book report at the library (this is second grade).  None of the children in the reading group were explained how to do this book report even my daughter who is in the same group told me she had to figure it our herself.  My little boy did not know what to do. He was afraid to ask her again as one other time he asked for instructions she was very abrupt and did not answer him.  So, I contacted his home room teacher to resolve it, as the reading teacher was not available (for personal reasons).  The principal tried to arrange a meeting but again, this teacher was unavailable, and I finally received a phone call (she left a message) from her late Sunday night she was busy and could not get back to me and she would not be in for a week.


Week goes by, my little boy is okay but issue still not resolved. Top it off some kids were teasing him and told an older girl in the glass that he liked her. She sat down at lunch and told him she did not like him right to his face.  Ever since, he has not been dealing with things well.  He has gotten sick before school from anxiety, etc. I spoke 3 times with his home room teacher, and all she could do is say, "I'm sorry, I don't know what to do, the counselor is busy today." 


On top of this, my little 8 year old girl's teacher constantly gives her tardies for being 1 minute late (I go to the office to get a pass but she refuses to call them excused).  We drive 40 minutes, it has been foggy and one time I had a flat tire.  My husband informed the office of this. 


With all of this idiocy we decided to put the kids back in the original school here by the house and as I went into the office to let them know, the counselor of the school had to meet with me, urgently.  She lit into me big time, saying I coddle my son and if I kept doing so he would be come effeminate (sp?). She also said that I am teaching my daughter to be critical of her teacher by saying there is something wrong with being 1 minute late. I said there were reasons for being 1 minute late and my husband told the teacher and the office.  The counselor said, "set your watch back so that will take care of it and you will be early.",


This counselor continued to say that I was not parenting my son and daughter correctly and that she was livid that I would encourage a crush that my son was only 7 and I was not being responsible.  I said I did not even know about this crush and that I thought the girl was rude even saying that to his face after he never even told her it was a rumor!


I left the office feeling horrible as she indicated I was "a bad parent," I am not kidding. My band says she just was upset because we were leaving and there were issues not resolved correcdtly by her staff. 


If you got this far reading this I appreciate it. Thanks for listening.  But really, is my instinct right that this "counselor" was out of line, saying my son is going to be effeminate and my daughter critical? Made me feel about 2 inches tall, but I did not let her know that. Nor will I tell the children.  Feedback on this would be highly appreciated.  If I could I'd give you a copay for listening. Thanks in advance. 


Call the school. I had a threat like this in my high school and they cancelled school that day.
Thankfully, because the person making the threats was found with material for home made pipe bombs and quit a bit of ammunition and a shotgun. He was arrested and charged. Never allowed back in the school.

I think it would be safer to call the school and get classes cancelled for a day to investigate versus make a scene in the parking lot, especially if the student with the knife is inside with the knife.

Good luck. If nothing happens, pull your child out of school for a week. See what happens. I know that sounds horrible, but small towns is where this happens most often.
Oh, this gave me high BP!! How dare a school counselor......sm
Take it into HIS hands to pull the girl and administer any kind of test at all, he does not have the legal right. He SHOULD have quietly contacted the girl's parents, told them about the rumor, and then SHUT UP, made himself available for counseling, but leaving parenting/medical matters to the parents, where they belong. If this were my own daughter, I fear I would be so enraged by this type of arrogant, stupid, unprofessional, illegal, and disresepctul acivity that I would become a one-woman vasectomy machine, the hard way. Talk about emotional distress?? That poor young girl and her parents. I can remember my days in high school in the early-mid 70s, parents were brought in and respected. OMG, this kind of "rumor" went around every time some nasty girl had a "fight" with another girl, they would have been hiring buses to drag these girls out....truly sickening situation, I hope this young lady is okay now, and has healed emotionally from it all, and thank God it was not true at all, for her sake, poor thing!
Call the school to see what help they may be able to
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You might want to call the school
and check on how many family members are allowed to attend the ceremony. The rule at mine, way back when, was only 2 or 3 relatives allowed. Maybe she's insisting he come for something he won't even be allowed to attend!

Call the school

I think you need to call the school and demand that action be taken.  This child needs serious help immediately.  Do you know how to reach his parents?  If the school won't do anything, how about trying to call the parents.  Maybe even involve the police, if you have to.  


Good luck.  That's scary stuff.


 


Do not call the school --

Do not call the school.  Accompany your child to school tomorrow and call the police from the school parking lot to meet you there.  Then demand to see the principal to report the incident with the police present. 


Obviously you know this is a serious matter or you wouldn't be posting.  I bet the people of Columbine wish someone had made a scene like this before things went the way they did.  If the child can get a knife from his parent's home, whose to say he can't just easily bring a gun the next time. 


U didn't call the school?
You should have called the school, demanded to speak to the principal, then call the school board office. Get a group of parents to go with you to the next school board meeting and make sure you let them know what happened. THEN, write a letter to the Editor of your newspaper, call in on any talk radio show you can dial into it.

The next time, it could be your kid who has an emergency. Bless those kids for helping their schoolmate.
Could she go to the office to make the call after school? sm
or borrow a friend's cell phone to call after school, so she doesn't have the cut into lunch?

Also, about the cell phone, I got my daughter a TracFone which can be relatively inexpensive for times like this. It is not for chit-chat, just to make quick calls to home for times like this.
I agree call the school to check sm

on the availability of tickets.   If it is outside and rains they usually put a limit on the tickets.   My mom who lives in my State could not see my daughter graduate because it rained and we only were allowed two tickets for the auditorium and one ticket for the big screen in another room where my daughter had to watch.    Definitely check the circumstances. 



I would just say no and travel another time.  


People I went to high school with still call me by my maiden
name, and we graduated 30+ years ago, and I call them by their's when talking about them with someone. What is the big deal??????
If OP didnt bother to make call to school about this,
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Get him to a counselor.
narcotics anonymous meeting.  I have never heard of profuse sweating from marijuana withdrawal.  Maybe he was on something else as well.  The good thing is he's done with it, but it sounds like he may need some medicine to help him relax, but this would need to be prescribed by a physician.
counselor

You didn't mention if you're going alone or not to counseling, and I wasn't sure by what you wrote.   I personally hope you go by yourself first.  It may be better that way.  Obviously, you'd have much more room to say how your feel, and the counselor wouldn't have the husband "boundary."


I'm glad you're working on yourself.   If nothing else, hopefully you can use this as a time to get back to who you may have been prior to the marriage, or at least learn to be more independent again and ENJOY being that way.  It's really nice to be able to walk down the street with your head held high and a sparkle in your eye (not to mention the swing in your hips after you lose whatever weight you're talking about). 


Please keep us posted.  We're all here to help you to the best of abilities...



Counselor
This counselor apparently has "issues" of her own and seems to be in the wrong job.  Sounds to me that you are raising your children just fine. 
You should probably see a counselor.

It sounds like his hobbies and your way of thinking are not one in the same.  He sounds sort of selfish, but there are always two sides to every story.  My Dad used to say if a husband/father finds reasons to stay away from the house then he just doesn't want to be at home.  He used to feel this way about the men who always volunteered to work overtime, which in my Dad's mind put another father out of work.  He always felt they should hire another man rather than keep these men from their families, but then again maybe these men "just didn't want to go home".  It is sad. 


You shouldn't have to live this way.  Of course your husband doesn't want to divorce because you'd probably get his hunting money.    He sounds selfish and you might want to look into getting your own place and see how he can figure things out.


Might want to go to a counselor
I'd say if you are constantly thinking about food, yes, you might want to seek counseling. You may not smoke or drink, but overeating is self-medicating, too. NOW is the time to get some help, when you are only 15 lbs. overweight. Don't let it get out of hand and then you have 100 lbs. to lose and can't.

God bless you and I wish you all the best with finding a good counselor.
I had a counselor once tell me that too...
and she had met with us both as well. But the psychiatrist who prescribed the stress meds for me met DH and told me that we needed to stop pointing fingers at one another (DH and I) and start enjoying life. So, I parted ways with the counselor and am going to another one after about a year of being gun-shy of counselors. The original counselor who determined there was nothing in this marriage for me or relationship with this man as she put it was not my decision. It is what she said. But after DH and me meeting with the medical doctor psychiatrist, the MD gave advise to find someone else as a counselor and get a second opinion. He suggested that a lot was I was taking life and problems too seriously and we all needed cognitive thinking help in this house, to deal with stress. He said it was situational our problems and once we started the cognitive thinking, that is learning ways to cope with hard times, we could finally enjoy the happiness life has to give. I think it would be worth your while to get a second opinion if you have doubts about leaving, as long as you are safe in your situation. If there, however, is domestic violence physical or verbal abuse, that is a totally different story, you need advise from the local domestic violence hotline which can determine if you need to get out right away. I do not know your situation and do not want to send you the wrong way. If you are safe, then I suggest going to someone else and weigh the options of counseling for couples, and other things like cognitive training. If it is unsafe, then do call 911 or domestic violence hotline and don't waste time, do leave. Remember divorce is expensive, painful, and difficult to get over. You can do it if it is the right thing to do, we all survive these things. But if the marriage is safe, perhaps it would be less expensive and less stressful for you both to consider working on finding the love you had but perhaps got lost along the way in the hard times. Good luck to you whatever you decide!
I had a counselor once tell me that too...
and she had met with us both as well. But the psychiatrist who prescribed the stress meds for me met DH and told me that we needed to stop pointing fingers at one another (DH and I) and start enjoying life. So, I parted ways with the counselor and am going to another one after about a year of being gun-shy of counselors. The original counselor who determined there was nothing in this marriage for me or relationship with this man as she put it was not my decision. It is what she said. But after DH and me meeting with the medical doctor psychiatrist, the MD gave advise to find someone else as a counselor and get a second opinion. He suggested that a lot was I was taking life and problems too seriously and we all needed cognitive thinking help in this house, to deal with stress. He said it was situational our problems and once we started the cognitive thinking, that is learning ways to cope with hard times, we could finally enjoy the happiness life has to give. I think it would be worth your while to get a second opinion if you have doubts about leaving, as long as you are safe in your situation. If there, however, is domestic violence physical or verbal abuse, that is a totally different story, you need advise from the local domestic violence hotline which can determine if you need to get out right away. I do not know your situation and do not want to send you the wrong way. If you are safe, then I suggest going to someone else and weigh the options of counseling for couples, and other things like cognitive training. If it is unsafe, then do call 911 or domestic violence hotline and don't waste time, do leave. Remember divorce is expensive, painful, and difficult to get over. You can do it if it is the right thing to do, we all survive these things. But if the marriage is safe, perhaps it would be less expensive and less stressful for you both to consider working on finding the love you had but perhaps got lost along the way in the hard times. Good luck to you whatever you decide!
Try another counselor
I really think you need to talk to someone else. Like others have pointed out, there are very few, if any, fairy-tale marriages. And it certainly isn't just about changing your hub. Your indifference is a symptom of your own feelings and you will very likely be just as depressed and indifferent after the divorce, only this time you'll be alone.

I think you need a new counselor. nm
nm
Seek out a counselor.

I would get him into counselor ASAP
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If you've been to a counselor who suggests
My husband and I are in counseling and she has never once suggested counseling, even in the beginning when I felt like you, just giving up, unloved, etc.  I am amazed at how far we have come during our counseling and we're not done yet. We have 3 kids, ages 21, 18, and 9...they are the reason we went to counseling in the first place.  Divorce is a horrible thing to do to children.  For counseling to work, you both have to put your whole heart and soul into it.  The counselor is there to do what you want and if you say you want to save your marriage, then that's what they are supposed to try to help you do. Please find another counselor and try again.  It is worth saving...God bless...I'll be praying for you!
First, go to Alanon. Second, maybe speak to a counselor sm
about your feelings. If he truly does change, is there anything that would make the marriage worth salvaging?
Have you spoken with a counselor, therapist, or your minister?

It would probably help if you could express your feelings out loud and get some feedback from someone who is trained to deal with emotional dilemmas like you are experiencing. I would strongly encourage it, especially since you have had thoughts of suicide.


Sometimes it takes a little while to find the right "fit" in a therapist or counselor. If the first one doesn't seem to be helping, try someone else.


I had similar feelings when my son was finishing up high school and getting ready to go on to college. The so-called "empty nest syndrome," I guess. But there are a lot of components to it. It's like redefining yourself as a person, because for so long you have been meeting everyone else's needs, and now you are starting to realize that you have needs of your own.


So what you need to figure out is what fulfills you as a person. What do you want to do with the rest of your life? Literally. Five years from now, what would you like to be doing? When you figure that out, start figuring out how to make it happen.


The best of luck to you, and please feel free to email me if you like. I'm still working on some aspects of my "mid-life crisis," but I have worked through a lot of it. I would be happy to provide a sympathetic ear.


 


Doesn't sound very joyful. Find someone to talk to, counselor, clergy,
xx
Sounds like my kids...on a school day "we just got home from school!" on a vacation day....sm
But this is our vacation! My husband takes vacation days and leaves town without us...lol! He would never dream of taking a day off to work around the house!
How is the school's fault if Johnny comes to school armed?
And how is the school's fault if off campus people are getting jumped? Everybody wants to blame the schools, but the reason places have gone "zero tolerance" is because every parent whose kid gets popped for an illegal weapon says, "Oh, my little pookie wouldn't do that." Which is exactly what the parents of every perpetrator of school violence has said. At 15, this girl should have been aware that it was verboten and, if they felt that strongly it was necessary, kept it hidden. If she is not capable of thinking that part through, maybe she shouldn't be trusted with pepper spray anyway.
How is this kid in school with chronic infestation? School nurse
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In our school district you can go to any school that you want
but you actually have to pay if you don't live in the District. The private schools here are outrageously priced. You could almost send your child to a community college for the amount they charge.
You should call....sm
an attorney that deals with bankruptcies and ask them what you can do in this situation and they should be able to help you for a minimal cost.

In most states, if your husband's name is not on the credit card account they cannot go after his credit or try to force him to pay your bill... and vice versa.

For a reality check - the credit card company can seize your bank account and incoming deposits to one, force your employer/clients to turn over money designated for you to them for the debt. If you don't present some sort of offer to pay them a reasonable amount every month then they may choose to do the above things to you and legally can. However, if you can show the courts you can pay "x" a month and the judge thinks it's OK then they wouldn't be able to garnish any monies due to you.

Since you mentioned that you only work part-time, they'll probably suggest that you take on a full-time job to pay this debt.


Call them
Your best bet is to call and tell them what your situation is, that you want to work out a solution with them. Even if you have to refinance with them to get payments lower to a level you can afford, it will be worth it - don't default if you can help it. Nowadays, it can raise your car insurance rates, affect new employment opportunities, etc.

Besides, paying it back is the right thing to do. It will let you keep your self respect.
My dog does it too..but we call them
"kitty biscuits," LOL.  Either way it's gross.  He's been doing it forever, and we can't seem to break him of this habit. 
call
I would definitely call them as well. Had this happen and reversed as well. I know there is one cc company that refuses to do that and it happens to be Discover. Many other companies have reversed this for me. Please call and say you thought you paid it off so whats this!
call that b*tch!!
just kidding! :) This is such normal behavior for teenagers, I always told my girls that I coached that college is completely different than high school and there would be MANY changes, no matter how "in love" they thought they were... It is a sad reality, and unfortunately I am not a mom yet but know that when I am I will be dealing with this. I think the only thing you can tell him is the old saying "time heals all wounds" although it doesnot SEEM like he will EVER get over it by the way he is feeling right now, promise him he will. there are better things out there and everything happens for a reason!!! And you said they haven't officially "broken up" yet... you know what's coming obviously... and this is in no way a way to treat someone you love. She is just trying to get out of it easy. good luck, heartbreak is hard. I'm 27 and still go through it :)
Call the guy and ask nm
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Thanks .. will just call them and see
if I can remove some of the extra charges and go forward. I did not owe much of anything to anyone and then changed jobs and the fun began! I really don't have that much faith in a third party and I learned that from transcription!
sorry- not what I would call fun either
If I get the chance mine will have a fun time at my house!
Can I just call them?
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Just call me
Simon!!
Call someone now.
I went through the same situation with my father for 8 years (bedridden, dementia, strokes, etc.) and grandfather during those same 8 years and 1 year after that. I got help from my doctor, general practitioner. She is a good listener and knew exactly the direction to guide me for help. I was neglecting my health while taking care of others. I remember one time taking my grandfather to a doctor appointment and asked them to check my blood pressure. It was extremely high and they did not want to let me leave the office. I had to sign a waiver stating that I knew the risks but I also promised to see my physician, which I did immediately. I am now on medications for hypertension, hypothyroidism, depression, and cholesterol. Please take care of yourself now.
I would call.
They might be waiting to see what applicants show a true interest in the job. Doesn't hurt to have your name out there to be noticed and remembered...better than being lost in the shuffle. I wouldn't call again after that though.
God says to call sin for what it is.

Please call someone!
Call your local suicide prevention hotline. Even if you are not suicidal at the moment, with all that is going on in your life, that could change at any moment. At the very least they will point you to some resources that will help you. The most difficult thing to do is ask for help, but you really need to. If you don't want to call the hotline, try your local United Way office, they have many solutions that could possibly help you through the emergency until you can get back on your feet. You are in my heart and in my prayers. Reach out and let someone help you... please....
And what do you call yourself in
a marriage where the love is gone, the happiness is gone and you want out? I call it loneliness. I do not need a man to make me happy or to take care of me. My life is very happy because I got out of a loveless marriage.

Your statement makes no sense to be but then again, I am very secure in myself.
and they call that...
insurance fraud. If ever found out that you have withheld information, they will cancel your policy anyway. They are like the IRS. They have ways of finding things out. They can check your prescription records and find that docs name if he prescribed something. Once they find out a doc's name, that's it. Sorry to keep contradicting you, but insurance companies are ruthless. They want your money, but they don't want to pay out. If they find just one thing that was concealed from them, that's it. It's all over.
ok, well whatever you want to call him...but I think sm
feeling up a 8 or 9 year old and a 12 or 13 year old is a form of molestation. My mother's stepfather didn't actually rape her until she was 15. But he felt her up from the time he married her mother, when she was 7. My stepfather never did anything like that to me at all. But my creepy neighbor did. He spent a lot of time helping me learn to walk on my hands when I was 11 or 12 - I realized later it was so he could look up my shorts and so when my shirt would flop up, he could see my barely growing boobies. He moved away. Five years later he showed up at my house acting like a crazy maniac, in love with me. they get obsessed with young girls. Call him a scumbag, a pervert, a molester, or whatever. It's wrong.
Call CPS. Everybody knows they
do a terrific job and always show good judgment.  Wrong.  Oftentimes they yank kids out of stable homes because the enlightened and politically correct think that spanking is barbaric, make a quick phone call, and loving parents who are trying to discipline their children get sent to jail.  Beating is one thing and spanking is another.  I very much doubt that if the kid pulls the kind of antics you have described that his father is beating him.  Also, if the father was beating him, do you think he would have chosen "the stick" over losing hockey?  You most probably don't know what you are talking about and you should just butt out.  Different people parent differently.  Some kids need spanked, some don't.  Be thankful that your kid has a disposition such that it is not required.  Mind your own business unless you know he is being ABUSED.  The trouble you cause could be not easily undone.