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If anyone can really afford 14 kids, ok but

Posted By: 3 is a crowd, 14 is ridiculous! on 2009-01-30
In Reply to: you cannot assume - sm

a single parent, living with her parents, breeding 14 kids and I would almost bet we are the ones really taking care of the kids, not her. I remember some time ago when my housekeeper remarked to me about her cousin having a brood, about 7 and I asked what kind of work did the mother do and when told I said, she cannot possibly take care of all those on that salary. I was told not only did she receive welfare but also section 8 for the house and my housekeeper wanted to strongly argue that this woman "takes care of her own." You don’t do that when you don’t pay for your own. I don’t know but I never got any money for raising my own kids and I resent strongly taking care of others. I think the government should do some kind of reduction on this family.


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Come into your home for 2 to 3 hours a day?  Maybe she could play with your son and do "school" with him (art, puzzles, colors, shapes).  It would be similar to having a 1:1 aide like some children require in public school.  Maybe she could let him be her helper baking cookies.  She can praise him for being such a big helper.


He might feel really special having extra attention.  Then, if he got too out of hand, she could take him for a walk or take him to a safe room where he could play (or throw a fit) where it won't interrupt your time with your other children.


Having a high-strung child is very exhausting.  You love them but find yourself resenting them a lot of the time too.  It would be doubly hard from someone like yourself who is with them 24/7.  You need a break from him, and he needs a break from you too.


Big hugs...I'm sorry you're going through this.  Next time he acts up, give him a hug and tell him you love him.  Maybe try cuddling with him for a few minutes until he calms down.  It's worth a shot!  LOL...although that might train him to want to throw fits so mama will cuddle with him. 


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How can anyone afford a luxury like a facial
I can't even keep food in my fridge or gas in my tank!
SURE he can afford to work for a dollar --
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Can't afford to be hooked to anything, except typing right now!!!
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Owning a pet is a privilege, not a right. If you can't afford health
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Can you afford at least a 50% paycut? Here in the SE, our teacher's aides don't sm
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Vari kennel crate if you can afford sm
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Tell you dentist to put 'veneers' over your teeth, if you can afford it nm
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Because I gained weight quickly and can't afford to replace all my clothes at once (sm)
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Consider homeschooling her.

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That's why I won't have kids.
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What do your kids

What do your kids call you and your spouse? Would you mind if they changed it, as in Mom instead of Mommy, as they got older? My kids call me Mom. If they call me Ma......I correct them, I don't LIKE it!! My son's GF calls me Mommy or Mom, I don't mind. My DIL calls me by my first name, I don't mind that either. I have a stepson, he also calls me Mom.

I do but only to keep an eye on my kids. NM
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Hello......if you want your kids to know...
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Hello, yourself. If I had kids, I would...sm
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Now as far as Clinton, I never said I was a fan. You're assuming an awful lot there. I don't even want to get into that.
I was one of four kids (sm)
and I was always wishing that my twin sister and I could have parents of our own. Living with mean older siblings was no fun!
Once again, your kids are still not that old
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Especially with little kids
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Buy them, but keep away from little kids, sm
When my daughter was 2 or 3, she got her hands on one of the poppies in the back seat and must have pulled it apart and put the plastic middle up her nose. We didn't know in the beginning what was there, but after a visit to her pediatrician who couldn't get at it, a trip to the emergency room, a 5 hour wait for an ENT guy with the correct equipment to retrieve it, we discovered it was the middle of the poppy. Since then, whenever I see them selling the poppies, I tell them to warn parents with little kids to keep the poppies away from the kids.
I don't even have kids, and I
think that's coooooolllld.

It's really not nice to try to be scientific or philosophical with somebody who is going through a loss and expresses sorrow.

Did Jesus tell Lazarus' family, "Hey, dont worry about it; we'll all see him in heaven soon!" No, he took pity on them in their sorrow. That's how He is. Let's try to mirror Him, not philosophists and scientists when it comes to people who are hurting.
Probably more the kids
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Some men have kids, but then
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I used to buy my kids
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She has kids as well
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kids
My DD (17 YO) has been getting her self up for years on her own.  My mom bought her an alarm clock and she started using that to get up on her own.  Now my DS on the other hand, is 20 and I still have to wake him up for work...go figure.  I think girls are just more responsible that way.
kids...
I've had both of mine doing their own laundry for about 3-4 years now, since my DD was about 12 and DS about 15, maybe younger.  My DD could take care of her own place right now (16 YO), but my DS (20 YO) is another story...maybe it doesn't have anything to do with gender after all...