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Just be supportive and a loving friend/family member - sm

Posted By: Interesting topic on 2008-03-27
In Reply to: Thank you. Will just wait until they are ready. nm - trose

My son jokingly tells me that I have Super Gay-Dar because I have had a few friends out to me first.

When my friend Chris came out to me a few years after high school, he was a complete wreck.

He called me up one night after I had not heard from him for awhile and the conversation went something like this.

Him: I really have to tell you something (I could tell he was shaking terribly and just sounded so upset and scared.)

Me: Okay.

Him: I'm gay. There I said it.

Me: And?

Him: What do you mean AND?

Me: Are you serious? You think I DIDN'T know? How many times were we BOTH checking out guys "back pockets" in the mall? How many times did YOU help me pick out dresses for formal dances? How many times did my parents let you come over for slumber parties all the way through high school? Do you think they let ANY of my other guy friends do that? Did you notice there were no other GUYS at those sleepovers?

Him: He has such a funny loud, barking laugh and he just started laughing and then crying.

Me: You wouldn't be you if you tried to be a straight guy. You're more fun this way.

Him: I just love ya girlie, You're my bestest bestest girlfriend.

Me: You're my bestest bestest girlfriend too.

And that was that. We still laugh about it. He can always make me laugh.


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groups and we do dinner once a month, shopping once a week (if you can make if of course), movies once a month, etc. Then I attend a Bible study on Wednesdays with another large group of women and we will get together a lot and talk on the phone during the week, etc. This, along with my family, sister, in laws, etc., and I am far from being an introvert working at home doing MT. Been at it for 8 years.

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I'm not saying all extroverts are depressed, but that was the reason for me.

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Anyway, it was so hard to keep MIL out of our business.  MIL balanced our check books, dh would take me and MIL out of a drive, all outings included MIL.  I told him that I think we should be taking care of our financial bus and dh said “no, mom knows how to do it and besides if I take that from her she won’t feel wanted. “  I asked, who did you marry, me or mommy.  Well MIL is not in our finances anymore.  She did used to go through our mail. I asked her if she was going to be a meddling MIL and she got mad and told DH and dh jumped my butt saying she is only trying to help and a few cuss words. (when the cussing started, I turned out). MIL was upset and she was going to take us to court. I guess she thinks she has rights to his money just like a wife would or more so.  They did have bank accounts together, cc together. 


 


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Loving these positive responses. Feeling much better about it now!
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You are a caring, loving person. That has been obvious SM
from your posts for a long time to me. You are doing the right thing and staying on top of this. With your close eye and caring and with professionals on board I think your son has a bright future. Keep us informed.
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sounds to me like he is missing you and your mom/family life. He is probably hurting right now and needs you and for some reason he finds great comfort in being with you. My dad died 13 years ago and I loved having him around. I know your situation is different, but be the comfort he needs right now and I am sure this will end in time. He is looking for reassurance for something. Who divorced who? He is probably hurting a great deal right now even though he does have a new girlfriend. You won't regret being there for your father. Trust me.
THANKS -- great article -- loving your responses ! n/m
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It's my birthday today, and I'm loving every single moment of it!