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We ALL mess with mother nature

Posted By: the mother of male-to-female transition on 2008-03-28
In Reply to: *He's* not a man - She's a female...sm

Who among us has not colored their hair, seen a plastic surgeon because we weren't satisfied with our bodies, took a pill to alter our mood or help a physical condition that made us uncomfortable?  Who has not dieted, worn colored contact lenses, got a perm, had liposuction?  Who didn't get their ears pierced, or love someone who has a body piercing or a tattoo?  Even if you never did any of these things, did it make you "sick" whenever someone else did?


Why is it MY business what someone else does with their body?  Oh, that's right, it isn't.  If I don't like your decision to become a blonde, should it make me "sick"?  Should I sneer at you and throw rocks because I personally don't like it that you got breast implants?  Well, that's what people do to people that change their sex.  What gives them the right?




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The birds tell us a lot. The morning of the Great Blizzard of ྊ I could not hear myself think for the noise of the birds everywhere. I live in the NE, I had a feeling they were trying to tell us something. I packed up everything I had that day and left for home and stocked up. I was not able to get out for the whole next week and my husband could not get home. I was fully prepared, but did not know for what. They do warn us! Lots of acorns here this year as well which means it is supposed to be a bad winter. The same thing happened in 1978 with the acorns. We shall see!!
mother nature never intended for YOU to
It was something that just happened to you. You choosing feels unnatural because it is, and it won't ever feel natural. BUT no one cares if you have a baby or not if you really want to keep your freedom. Babies are a lot of work.
The weather has been HORRIBLE just about everywhere his Winter!!! Mother Nature Angry! :-(.....nm
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The weather has been HORRIBLE just about everywhere his Winter!!! Mother Nature Angry! :-(.....nm
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I know it's their nature
That's why I posed: What kind of a plan is that?

The older I get, the freakier it all seems!
Nah, just a big fan of the nature shows.
I forgot manatees. I shoulda said mermaids. :o>


Human nature...sm
How many people make New Years resolutions (pledges)?  How many break them during the year?  Teens are fighting hormones, peer pressure, constant exposure in TV shows/movies, etc.  With few exceptions, I think pledges are meaningless unless the person making them is determined to carry them out.  I agree with another poster about the father-daughter pledge events.  I think it is a bit creepy. 
Thank you Nature and Anna
It's nice that others can sympathize with me. I just don't know what it is. One time years and years ago I told him I was feeling depressed and wanted to talk with a counselor. Boy did we have a blow out. He told me I should be able to talk to him about anything and I told him I can't. I told him he judges me and no matter what I feel or think he comes back with "you need to look at things the way I do". He's done that ever since we got married. When I wanted children and he didn't I was supposed to look at things the way he did. When I wanted to see my family but he didn't want me to travel because flying was not safe I was suppose to look at things the way he does. Once I told him you need to look at this the way I do and he said to me "no, because your wrong". I've heard how wrong I am for 25 years now that I just keep my feelings and opinions to myself. Once I accidentally broke a leaf off of one of his plants and he yelled at me for about 2 or 3 hours and I felt like a child with him saying "do you have anything to say for yourself". Then I got the same lecture for 2 hours my dad would give me growing up, and him saying I need to look at this the way he does (me destroying his plants and how would I feel if he destroyed something of mine). Oh hears a good one that will give you a laugh.... we were talking about how bad the crime is where we live. I told him that they should allow citizens from each section of the town pull a neighborhood watch and drive around and have the authority to arrest individuals committing crimes. He looked at me like I was nuts and said 'how, how, how do you think they would do that, they don't have enough money, etc, etc. Then he told me the way to solve it would be to evacuate everyone out of the city, shut down all the roads and make the town a ghost town (mind you this is a town of over 50K people with businesses, restaurants, and stores throught). HA HA...I felt like saying...gee your right honey, I should look at things the way you do.

I guess the weirdest thing though is that I've never had dreams with my my DH in my dreams. Maybe in the beginning I had a dream or two, but that was maybe 20 years ago. Also I know a lot of people can see themselves older and with their spouses, but I have never ever pictured us old together. I don't know what it is but it's like when I look into my future I can see myself with gray hair and being with my family and friends, but he's just not there.

Sometimes I read people's messages and am a little envious and would like to be in a relationship like some are, but I cannot imagine what that would be like. But on the otherhand, I am a very independent person, very sure of myself, and the thought of being alone does not bother me at all. I always think that being alone does not necessarily mean being lonely.

Anyway...just wanted to say thanks for your kind words.
I am so sorry, what a mess. - sm
I agree, as I am sure you do, that your son is the #1 priority here.  You need to stick to your guns and let him know that you will have him arrested as a runaway the next time he goes out of the house without your permission.  Unfortunately, he really needs to be scared right now of what the consequences will be if he breaks rules.  I would also suggest weekly drug tests for a while, just to let him know you are on top of it.  I would also let your BIL know that if he ever touches your kid again he will be arrested for assult and that if you hear or see of him abusing his kids again you will call CPS on him... I know this sounds harsh, but he should not be allowed to get away with bullying anyone like he obviously is used to doing.  As far as your sister is concerned, I agree with the other poster who said she may be scared of her husband. Wow this is really an ugly situation, and I am so sorry you are dealing with it.  If you will accept, I would love to pray for the situation and all involved...
wow, what a mess
You and your husband need to sit down and work out a plan and present a united front. At the age of 19, he is legally an adult. This is your home and you have the right to be treated respectfully. It seems you both need to confront him with how you perceive his behavior and present some alternatives, whatever you decide is best. If he does not have a car in his name, take away the keys, even if you have to sleep with them in your pillowcase at night. You can't let this behaviour affect your younger child. You can withdraw the invitation that he stay at your home when not at school if he cannot treat you nicely. You don't have to DO these things, but present some alternatives if he doesn't change his ways and then follow through if he continues. They say people treat you badly only if you allow it. It sounds like it's time to stand up and be firm about how you are treated. Best of luck in a tough situation. I hope you get your husband's support as that will be critical. Don't let this man ruin your marriage.
Hot mess is what I think. nm
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no its a big mess that I don't sm

even want to post on this board.  My son chose this.  He started acting up when he was 18 years old and will be 35 in June.  He just decided he wanted nothing to do with his family.  We have been around and around with this junk.  Last time he called was 2 years ago.  He calls and starts a ruckus and then you don't hear from him for 3-4 years.  I haven't laid eyes on him in 9 years.  He has to figure out his own problems. 


I have another son who is 32 and is a firefighter here where we live.  He is a joy.  He is married and I agree with you about a sons a son til he takes a wife.  Everyone I know who has sons and DIL go through this.  I love my daughter-in-law dearly and have never had a cross word with her but its not like my son and I don't get treated as well either.  I just suck it up and go on.  No reason to cause a ruckus.


O well, enough for today


Nature shows on PBS make me cry.
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wow, what a mess to go through for so long!
The reason for having to file CS orders against both is that my GD gets a small welfare check each month, Medicaid coverage and WIC (for now and free school lunches later). All CS attempts/costs are handled by the state agency, not a private attorney. They now have an interstate agreement that is supposed to be more efficient, but hey, that is their ball of wax. Any money they collect goes to the state first to repay the aid my GD gets, along with all the associated collection fees...so I really am not holding my breath (might pass out! lol) on EVER seeing any money. Neither of them can ever have custody of the child again due to the laws in my state, so what I have is the next best thing to adoption, plus GD gets the aid. So, I'll let the state do their thing - they are rated very high on the list of collecting CS as compared to other states - and now that I'm done with court appearances, I will just raise my little one and let those that need to worry do it for me :)

Thanks for your support and advice!
listening to this mess-
I think doctors today are just different. I remember doctors that would actually stop and rewind to the spot that needed to be corrected instead of dictating it after the fact. I also recall the time when doctors did not say "umm, or keep you hanging waiting for the next word. I overheard two doctors discussing his mother's surgery and recovery. The attendings that are "supposed" to be training these up and coming doctors should include dictation techniques.

I did not say this was my sister-in-law, did I? What a MESS!!!
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I was on a rant and about a mess....
and yelled 'pick up your toys and put them away, dammit!"

She - then 4 - started to do so, but turned back and looked me right in the eye and said,

"don't call me dammit!"

had to laugh.
She does not need TMZ , she makes her own mess.
I saw these pictures actually on celebs on Craig's List yesterday, not TMZ.
Re: Beneficiaries in a will (what a mess)...

Hi to all you smart legal types,


My dear sweet grandfather passed away on February 6, 2009, at the age of 87.


My brother and I have been named in the will in place of my father who has alcohol dementia and is in a nursing home receiving state assistance. My aunts and uncles (my father's sisters and brothers) are also in the will. My grandfather's intent was to keep the estate in the family, so,therefore the will was changed to me and my brother. On the day of the funeral my aunt (who is the executor) informs me that there may be some CDs and/or life insurance policies that were not changed to me and my brother and are still in my father's name. My grandfather's intent when changing the will of course was to keep the estate in the family and not have it to go to the State of Wisconsin since my father is receiving Medicare and Medicaid. This does not make sense to me why everything was not originally changed!


I am unsure how this all goes, but these things I have learned from a friend who went through a similar situation and want someone to clarify me if I am wrong.


Here goes: First off, why would the original lawyer (they have since hired someone else to handle the estate since my father passed now) not have made sure everything was changed and had my father's name taken off everything? Shouldn't this have been part of his job since the original intent was to keep it in the family? And if this is part of his job, someone suggested I contact his malpractice company as this may be our recourse to this dilemna since he didn't do his job properly.


Secondly, since my aunt is the executor, I was also told that what an executor does is acts in the behalf of the deceased (my grandfather) and she has the authority to have this changed even now. She is telling my brother who is the power of attorney for my father that he needs to hire a lawyer and have this changed. I am also told from my friend that if he does have to hire a lawyer he can sue the estate to recoup the costs of doing so, which I am sure will go over like a lead balloon! Is my aunt not aware of what her role is or am I wrong? My brother of course has a passive/aggressive personality and I am the go-getter, and he basically said he doesn't care and wants to let it go because he does not want to deal with it. I feel if my aunt is so concerned about it and keeps bugging him about it and has the authority, then she needs to do it. But, I also told him that grandpa's intent was to keep it in the family and if something can be done to change it then we should, but of course it may not be worth it monetary wise either as the lawyers will get a good chunk of change. And on that note, am I allowed to ask the lawyer exactly the dollar amounts we are talking such as life insurance, CDs, or the estate itself since I am listed on the will? My aunt told my brother, but not me and he says he doesn't remember.


I am not very trusting of my family and I can see greed written all over this! If this is not being handled properly by the family, especially my aunt, I am trying to figure out what is in it for her. I have a call into the new lawyer, which by the way, I was not told that we had switched laywers by my aunt. I only found out through my brother who I spoke with the other day. Since we are all listed in the will, we should all be kept informed. I don't believe the family really wanted me and my brother in the will, but agreed to make the best a of bad situation as best as they could, versus the State getting the money or the only grandchildren listed in the will!


Sorry so long and windy, but have so much on my mind right now regarding this situation and until I get some real answers this will bother me all day. Please if anyone out there understands anything about how wills and/or estates work and has any insight, please respond.


Thank you!


I know its human nature to discuss things such as

there is a 21-year-old college student missing from my home town.  She has not been seen since Friday.  Her name is Leah Hickman.  Her sister and the police were on Fox News last night - Greta (not sure of her last name) interviewed them.  Please keep Leah and her family in your thoughts and prayers.


I agree. It is in some people's nature to use those words.
My supervisors at work call me sweetie because they are southern and that is how they speak. Does the teacher treat everyone like that and it is just not part of your speaking style, or is there something else that seems inappropriate about it?
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You wanna mess your cat up for good?
Get a chicken...nay, a ROOSTER.  My old cat thought he saw an all-you-can-eat buffet when he first met "Steve," my Rhode Island Red.  He was stalking Steve from behind a bush (my chickens are free rangin'), started that low belly-creep towards his prey, and Steve saw him coming from the eyes that are in the back of his head.  That bird actually turned on my old cat and chased HIM away.  He's been reformed ever since and hardly goes outside anymore, even though Steve and his girls are long gone.  He's totally shell shocked, even though Steve never got near him.  Even the cute little chickadees in the window feeder make his hair stand on end now.
Re: SICKO, the healthcare mess, etc.

Interesting video on YouTube - this guy says it simply & eloquently.  He wants people to send him videos on the subject - anyone out there in MT with a PC-cam could certainly get the word out on the offshoring-of-medical-records to a HUGE audience in this way.  Here's a link to the video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8NDs4YuLXE


He doesnt want the kids cause they would mess up his
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I am still cleaning up my mess from about 2 months -sm
ago. We have paid off all but $3K on my husbands cards, have them paid off in full by March, don't want to get stretched to thin over Christmas, car insurance on 2 cars and propane for heat. I am on hardship plans with 2 of my credit cards, one is no interest for a year, the other is 10% for a year. Cut the payment in half on one, the other only by about a 1/3). Have 2 of my others current again--small balances on those, and working on getting the last one current--need another $600 on that one to get caught up after not paying for about 3 months. But in 2009 plan to use a debt settlement company and for at least the 2 that are on the hard ship plan (don't think it will work on anything you have current) and that should save me I hope at least $15K before interest, which is about 40% of the total due on those two. But waiting until 2009 because of the tax liability, will have a year to save up the taxes owed on any settled accounts, have $1400 set aside so far, figured on saving at least $3K to be safe. --but yes you can do a lot yourself in terms of negotiating a lower payment and interest as long as you show good faith. I am making my payments on time (they directly debit it from checking). Learned a lot here asking questions. Sorry to hear you got ripped for the $400 but as someone hear pointed out, you ask to be put on the hardship plan and they transfer you over to another department who handles repayment plans, etc.
She was irrelevant 10 years ago..what a hot mess!
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Awfully defensive in all your posts. IMO, you're a nature nut. Don't you see that most people
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Loved all the nature stories! Good stuff.
I enjoy my bird friends. Great entertainment value. Put out a sprinkler and watch the robins, cardinals some sort of little sparrow-like birds show up. They love a refreshing shower.
Disagree-it is NOT human nature. My husband thinks that too (sm)
My husband covered his fishing pole in the back of his truck one day because he said some "average Joe might walk by and take it" because it was just too tempting with it showing. Average Joe wouldn't rummage through the truck and take it - that would just make him a thief, but if Average Joe saw a fishing pole there in plain sight, he might take it. That is wrong to say that you cannot expect someone to come into your home and work for ou and not take anything, that it is human nature. It is NOT human nature. It is stealing and it is wrong. I am not perfect by any means but if I was working as a housekeeper I would not take anything that was not mine.
So were they stolen by a thief? Lol or just a person with human nature? (sm)
I probably would have just warned the cleaning person that some things had been missing and if she happened to put something in a new place to let me know because were having some things we could not find. If it continued I would find someone else.
Sooo true! But I didn't mess her up.
No really, she is a rescue.

:oD


Does divorce always mess up boys' lives?? (sm)
So worried about my 10 year old son, whether I go or whether I stay.  Anyone with experience?
Heck no! 40 is a great age- you know enough not to mess around but you don't have Alzheimer's

Timex Clock Radio with Nature Sounds - Target NM
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Husband is a die-hard Eagle fan!! I am a Packer fan so it will be against my nature to cheer for Chi
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Wean yourself from her, little by little, for your own peace of mind. She'll either get the mess
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ADDENDUM. Just trying to get some straight answers and not sure what to make of this whole mess. nm
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I feel your pain... sometimes I consider shaving my head!!! I just keep it short so as not to mess
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Whatever my mother-in-law and mother are cooking--lol
we go to my in-laws for Christmas Eve and usually have ham and kielbasa (we are Polish) and then my mom usually has turkey or roasted chicken on Christmas Day
I agree - a mother is a mother and a daughter is a daughter for life sm
despite the problems they had, which i truly believe stem for anna's drug problems. obviously her mom wasn't too bad or she would not have raised daniel for a while. i think the mother wants her buried in Texas so the grave will be close enough that she can go visit it without having to come up with expenses of going to the bahamas to get there. although i contradict that too in poor anna needs to be buried with her son.
mother in-law help sm

Ok, so here is what is going on.  My mother in-law fell down some stairs and broke her leg.  She did not have insurance.  She had not been to a doctor in 27 years.  She has been in the hospital for about 4 days.  They had to do surgery and things are looking good.  She will have to have rehab for a few months, use a walker and so on.  Well, guess who they ask to take care of her for the next few months?  The "stay-at-home" mom who has all the free time in the world haha (not to mention I have a 3 year old who stays at home with me and a busy 6 year old in school).  This would consist of me taking her to the restroom, bathing, changing dressings, helping with rehab exercises, not to mention working 8 hours a day and making sure my 3 year old doesn't climb on her.  I feel bad for saying no, but I think that they should feel bad for asking me.  She has 5 children.  I feel that it is way too much responsibility for me to take on and that it absurd that they asked me.  Aren't there facilities where she can go at least for the 1st month?  Please help, just need advise. 


 


And for anyone who wants to say "if it was your mother..."  Believe it or not, in June MY mother fell down some stairs and broke her ankle.  I was at her house every afternoon and we had people come in multiple times daily to check on her.  However, the mother in-law is about 25 years older and the extent of the injury is greater.  I would have never asked my husband to take care of her and help her do these things. 


My mother-in-law
My mother-in-law keeps giving my Longaberger baskets for b-days and Christmas.  She loves these baskets and has over 100.  She visits the factory several times a year, (about a 4 1/2 hour drive) and often takes the female family members with her.  These baskets are beautiful but I am just not a basket person.  I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but these baskets are expensive and I have over 20.  When I tried to mention to her as politely as possible that I just don't need any more baskets, she told me that she often changes hers out so she can enjoy them all.  I would much rather have sheets, bath towels, cookware, or even a gift certificate for dinner.  My hubby and I have been married 19 years, have to children, and have a very good relationship with my mother-in-law.  She is a fabulous grandmother, but I am really tired of the baskets.  Any suggestions?
I also have MVP and so does my mother...
so I don't know if there is a correlation or not between the two...
My mother's cat
looked like it had mange and when I asked the vet about it he said he had never seen a cat with mange.  A friend told my mom that cats are extremely allergic to poinsettas and my mother had one sitting in the cat's favorite window.  After she threw out the flower the cat got better very quickly.
It's up to your mother-in-law to keep them in the

them.  Your sister-in-law should not even bring them over there anymore in my opinion.  If your mother-in-law's gate cannot hold them in for sure, then she absolutely should not watch them.


Your sister-in-law sounds selfish to me, so point out to her that it is unsafe for her OWN animals to be out running free, as anyone would have the right to shoot them if they were on their property threatening them.  Maybe then she will care!  Plus she (or you mom-in-law) could be sued if the dogs injure or kill someone or someone's animals.  Not to mention they would have to live with that for the rest of their lives.


Having seen my own mother do a 180
since the death of my own dad 3-1/2 years ago and learning the hard way from things that have happened - I would just keep my mouth shut and say nothing and do nothing.
mother . ..
This may not be comforting to you, but I wish my mom (also 80) would do something like that. I think she would enjoy the company, and the activities. We have an awesome ALF here in our town; it's like a mini city!!!! Be glad she is making this decision for you and that you don't have to push her. She may benefit tremendously from this!!!!
My mother once said and she was right...sm

tis better to raise children in a happy divorced home than a miserable married one.


I divorced my kids father and within 3 years, all of us were in a much better place and now, 16 years later, this still holds true!!!  This, I swear!! 


I really have to believe that my Mother is up there
watching over her grandchildren. She lived for those kids and that truely was one of the things that hurt me the most when she died so suddenly. My niece is leaving for college in Aug. My son got his license and did very well in the state Forensics competition. Little things like that are the things that she would have been so proud of. I know my mother was a christian but I just hope that she is able to see us here on earth. Thank you for your response.
what was his mother like?
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