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Men don't keep everything written in their daytimers the way women do

Posted By: donna on 2009-05-18
In Reply to: Today is my 1st weddding anniversary and my husband didn't spend time with me.? - goldy

Men don't keep everything written in their daytimers the way women do. Maybe he is planning a surprise for you this evening, however he could have at least said Happy Anniversary and given you a kiss.



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Thank you for a well-written response

Of course, there are parts of what you say I agree with and parts I don't. :)


In my case, I had to step in or the state would have taken the child.  The dad was a bum...but when I look at how he was raised and the he** he went through, I understand how scared he is of even trying to be a father.  I don't excuse it, but I understand it.  I understand it all the way to family court where I will be getting a child support order against him next month <G>.  Got one on my own daughter, already.  My daughter was born with a mental illness and was a teenage mother.  It was a time bomb that finally exploded in a world of drug abuse.  But to treat the addiction without the mental illness will never result in a productive member of society.  So...that being said, holding these 2 parents accountable is futile...other than financially (okay, even I laugh at ever seeing any of that money).  They are infrequent visitors in my GC's life.  That is simply the way it is.


I look at European countries and see multigenerations living together even still, where the older family members help raise the young children so the parents can support the entire household.  That was what I meant about a community raising children.  We as Americans don't function in that way overall as a society.  We splinter and break apart and when young adults need help, often it means the children go somewhere else (usually aunts, uncles, grands).  Sometimes in divorce, one party has more _power/control_ (usually due to finances) and has a greater say in how, who and where the children are raised.  I suspect there is some of this dynamic occuring in the OP's life that she felt she couldn't share.  (My story is out there...but some are not as open).  Some divorced people use children as pawns, and this, too, is as sad as parents who cannot take responsibility for their offspring.


But I do fully support any parent, who for the sake of the children, can try to enrich their young lives and teach them tolerance, patience, forgiveness, acceptance, and learn how to deal appropriately with situations so that they can grow into strong, proud adults.  I suppose my point in all this was in my original response.  Bad things can be found everywhere...but if we can teach our children how to deal with them in a positive way, we have given them the gift of maturity.


Thank you for your response.  I did appreciate reading it and respect what you had to say.


I have already written them a letter that I will
I also suggested they take the "America" off their name as they don't represent America in any form.

you can only have one will, the latest one written...

You can have one will from one departed person per beneficiary...


If Anna had 7 wills for Daniel from herself, they have to go by the latest dated one.........


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You will be blasted probably for what you have written
but I take another stance on this because I have been through similar with elderly people (parent was 90 when they died). After their spouse died, they asked me to come and live with them and I absolutely refused. I told them first of all I have bills they would not pay for (could have but wouldn’t have and not their place anyway) but my life would be hel*. So overbearing and almost impossible to be around to visit, just bit my tongue in order to visit. Mine was not senile at all, just so darn irritating, put me down, watched me like a hawk in their home like I was going to steal their bed or something. Does your mother have anyone there to see about her or provide any outside assistance? I tried getting this for my parent (they were so bull-headed, turned everything down) but with the senility of course you know she needs someone if not already. I just tried to provide any and all assistance available for the elderly - Meals on Wheels and other associations to assist with my parent because I would not be there to do it..... although I was only a phone call away and always could be at their home say in a couple of hours if I were needed for a real emergency like you said. By the way, the dentist office completely out of line calling about an appointment? If another place asked and you did not want to give 1, just play like you are having a senior moment, ok? If you have not done so already, check out senior assistance programs. You probable have thought about this anyway, just what I tried to do. Oh, I had the courts set up to take over my parents daily living, etc. because of a person that was taking them for a lot of money- the court case supposed to be the next week and the parent killed in an accident on a lawnmower that weekend before the hearing.
Tired--I could have written that! (sm)

I used to have to go down for a nap during my lunch break and if I wasn't careful, I'd oversleep by at least a good hour.  I even tried working a split shift, which only made my fatigue worse because I'd take the 4-hour break in between just to sleep.


My husband is on the verge of needing insulin shots due to his very poorly controlled diabetes.  His latest health report scared him enough to make him a willing participant in a strict diet.  I am also on this diet to help make things easier.  It totally bites the big one but I'll tell ya, WHAT A DIFFERENCE in my energy level--his too!  We figure it just had to be the sugars and carbohydrates that were dragging us down. 


No more breads, pastas, rice, or taters....all the things we really loved.  We do munch all day though but on teeny portions of good stuff--mostly raw things like fruits, veggies, or bits of egg & lean meats.  No more cream or sugar in our coffee, and that's just limited to 1 cup of black a day.  No more butter either--my personal favoritest fat. 


Been on it almost a month now and I can honestly truly feel a difference.  I almost have enough energy to start exercising, which I didn't have before. 


I'm 5' 10" and topped off at 230 but am now down to 220 just by this diet alone with no exercise.  I'd be happy at 185 but once winter hits...man, I just don't know about that!  I haven't been to a doctor in about 2 years either, but I'd recommend you visit one if you can, just to rule out stuff, ya know? 


Hope you feel better soon!


I have written 6 screenplays.
I also have many in various stages of completion. I have never even told anyone that I write. My husband doesn't even know. I took a transcription course because he would complain about me being on the computer so much that I thought if I had a good reason to be on the computer, he would leave me alone. I wait until he and the kids go to bed at night and then I type away. He has almost caught me a couple of times by sneaking up on me to see what I am typing. It has caused a few arguments because he thinks I must be chatting with a guy online or something. I would rather have him think that than tell him what I really do. The reason I don't tell him is because I am not ready for him to read my screenplays. I just do it for myself because once I get an idea for a story, I can't think of anything else until I get it written down.
SIS if written in caps
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yes and yes! It is the tone in which it is written.
Condescending, ridiculing, belittling, ironic, sarcastic and implying that a 56-year-old woman (only the woman, not the man !)is 'over the hill' and has to expect to be cheated on with a 22-year-old.

I am not so sure that he is so 'unaware' of the slur. I think this is his general attituce toward women, but he is sugarcoating it to appear oh, so 'cute and likable.' A very biased statement.



""Love Must Be Tough" -- written by (sm)
Dr. James Dobson -- excellent for couples with significant marriage problems -- please read.

Sounds like your husband is seriously involved with "someone else." And, if so, you could never be organized enough or tall/thin enough. His insulting remarks are possibly his outlet to relieve himself of "guilt." Don't give up -- be tough!!

Just another opinion!! May God bless you in your decision-making.
If you have stamps with "Forever" written on them
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No thanks, the Holy Bible is THE written authority to me!
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I could have written your post. I've wondered too.

I have read everything Fannie Flagg has written
Alawys funny off-beat characters.
My last fortune cookie was written in English...sm
on one side and Spanish on the other!
Hello..You could have written my post. The jelaousy bug..Gets the good ones all the time!!! nm
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Written by Francis Church in 1897 in response to 8 yo Virginia's question if Santa was real. You
VIRGINIA, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except [what] they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, Virginia, whether they be men's or children's, are little. In this great universe of ours man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect, as compared with the boundless world about him, as measure by the intelligence capable of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge.

Yes, VIRGINIA, there is a Santa Claus. He exists certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! How dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus! It would be as dreary as if there were no VIRGINIAS. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The eternal light which childhood fills the world would be extinguished.

Not believe in Santa Claus! You might as well not believe in fairies! You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the chimneys on Christmas Eve to catch Santa Claus, but even if they did not see Santa Claus coming down, what would that prove? Nobody sees Santa Claus, but that is no sign that there is no Santa Claus. The most real things in the world are those that neither children nor men can see. Did you ever see fairies dancing on the lawn? Of course not, but that's no proof that they are not there. Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the world.

You tear apart the baby's rattle and see what makes the noise inside, but there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man, nor even the united strength of all the strongest man that ever lived, could tear apart. Only faith, fancy, poetry, love, romance can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond. Is it all real? Ah, VIRGINIA, in all this world there is nothing else real and abiding. No Santa Claus! Thank GOD! He lives, and he lives forever. A thousand years from now, nay, ten times ten thousand years from now, he will continue to make glad the heart of childhood.









Why do women always seem...
to be the guinea pigs for pharmaceutical companies? There is no way would I want my granddaughters subjected to this.
But you and I both know, women
have always and as far as I can see will continue to carry the burden. If we did not take birth control and it was left to a man to tell us they had taken a pill, would you want to chance that? I don't think so. If a woman has a child a lot of men can and do turn their backs and who is responsible then? It is the woman again. I take the responsibility for my own health- I would never want to leave up to a husband/partner to assure me he had taken his medicine for STD??/used his birth control??/infertile???/etc., etc. This is the reason you see lots of females left holding the bag because they do want to put trust in their man.
I think 90% of women...
Find their husbands repulsive and repugnant. You are not alone. Just close your eyes and go to your happy place.

Have you ever seen what those women look like?
Kids that age just want to fit in, not look like their mom or the lady at the Macy's counter. I let my daughter wear what she wanted even I thought it looked pretty bad at times. She is now 18 and wears appropriate make up for an 18yo.
I know these women are old but
Tina Turner and also Cher both have the ole folks spread now. I guess some of these so called actresses in Hollywood that are size 0 minus only have to wait some years and there you go.
Women, you don’t have to put up with this
My husband just told me a few minutes ago I was his best friend (as he is mine) and he was so glad he had married me, how others do not seem to get along, fighting all the time, yelling, upset- this is definitely not our life. Ladies, there are good guys out there- please look, don’t settle for more than you deserve.
well, of course the women
would win!  We have about four different versions of it. 
that's what I mean. For women like you
whose husband is better looking than themselves, this story is especially insulting and hurtful. A very bitter joke (?)
I look far better than my husband, but I am not going to look for a 22-year-old, never came into my female mind.

A really good joke should NEVER insult anybody!
Excellent!!! More women should do this....
              
Women's work

I agree with the OP concerning professionalism.  I believe it comes from anything that jobs that (primarily) women perform having the perception of not being serious work.  If she is working at home, that perception is doubled.  I also agree with having a schedule and sticking to it; plus if you have help to do your primary work, do it and don't feel guilty.  Generally doing many things at once means you cannot do anything well in my opinion.  But I do have to admit what works for one person doesn't work for others. 


We know we have historically multi-tasked.  I remember my daddy telling about my grandmother helping my grandfather with plowing at times, guiding the mule's head and leaving her baby under a shade tree, with a brick holding down the child's gown and the family dog keeping watch. She wasn't thought of as neglectful--just doing what had to be done.   Unfortunately, women have to work harder and be smarter than men to be competitive and we just have to know in our hearts we contribute significantly to society.  What's that old joke--luckily that's not too hard!  


why is it that women SEEM to be desperate in....

If things were so good with the OP with her current marriage, do ya think she'd be online reconnecting with anybody?!?!?!?!


So many women appear desperate to me in their 50s...and I don't know why because I'm in my late 50s and am never desperate sounding, appearing, etc......I just don't get it.  And no, I have chosen not to be married any longer for the past 16 years......


you know that old sayin?  want a man in my life, not in my house full time?!?!??!! 



Good for you, but I'm just saying some women don't need or want a man....
thank you very much ;)
Women who shop with their
What is the deal with st**pid women who think they are special enough to take their dogs to the malls, grocery stores and other places these dogs shouldn't be? I was at Macy's today and a little dog in a woman's purse barked at people passing by. I made some rude comments to the woman but why do stores allow these people to continue to shop?

Unfortunately most men say that to women who are overweight.
Pay more attention to who he is checking out/drooling over on TV - bet it isn't Roseann Barr or Camryn Manheim! lol
I will never understand some women

It's a beautiful day today, and a co-worker was saying she'd love to go home and take her dog for a walk. But her husband is home sick and he won't let her go without him.


She does stuff like that all the time. I think the only place she's allowed to go by herself is work. She can't go to the grocery or get gas or to the drugstore without him. She has no friends other than their joint friends.


Drives me nuts. What kind of a life is that? I guess it's OK for her, but I would hate to always have to be chaperoned by my husband.


Women, what are you thinking?
You are staying with a guy because he is too big?? You are staying because of the kids?? This is not the dark ages. You are probably not slaves (although I did read the other day about some foreign folks being held slaves in another state somewhere). You have no idea how fast life goes by on you. I so wish I had done differently than to stay with a guy who did not treat me right- but having said that, years ago when I called the police to get away from my husband- and this was years ago- told they could not intervene being as we were married. Now, dear, times have changed. You can leave, can get assistance and can be in charge of your own lives. I wish a thousand times or more I had met this present husband and lead such a delicious life like now. You will wake up 1 day, believe me when i tell you this, and wonder what you have done with your life, where did it go, just like a flash you are in your 50s or 60s- don’t still be miserable when you reach the age where I am now. Life can be really good and beautiful. I have been down the same streets.
Some women go only with married men
I am totally not surprised at what you said. I have an ex-coworker and she goes with a married man, does not care and would not have it otherwise. She cares nothing about marrying him so this is not uncommon for women not to care-and the other way as well. Unlike the other posts above, this man is saying he no longer loves her. I probably would think, other woman, in a case like this. If I knew no one around, I would probably want to be closer to my family. A cheating man never ever changes- they might lie low for awhile but yours has not changed and gosh darn, I would never want to be with someone who caught a disease- he might bring something home that a shot just doesn’t work for! There are really good guys out there that will love and treat a woman right, don’t have to settle for someone who professes not to love you. Why beat a dead horse and stay because of kids. Not this lady.
sad to say-women will never be able to run Africa.

Women will never run Africa (who is Oprah kidding?!) as long as Arab terrorists known as Janjaweed are still controlling at least 80% of Africa.........


Women running Africa - Don't I wish!!!  But it's more backwards there than here - and we know how most feel about having a woman run THIS country............. and for Africa it certainly isn't going to happen in our time or Oprah's time either........unfortunately.


Yup, there are skinny women
who have 2 teeth and a moustache who can't seem to climb up the evolutionary rung so I would say that statement was false. If I understood the odd statement...LOL
I don't know how women in the past did that - sm
I mean for me it hurt like the dickens (unfortunately did "it" twice that fateful evening) and I couldn't walk without incredible pain for days afterwards. Who would want to deal with that on their honeymoon? Certain would kill the urge.... Now maybe that is not the norm, but I swear childbirth was easier.
Women of Faith
Hi, Country MT - I love WOF.  Have been to 2.  Really can't pick a favorite; they are all great!  Sounds like you are a Christian also - oh, no - will I get in trouble for using that word?  By your name, I'm assuming you live in middle of nowhere; I do too.  Tiny, tiny town in IL, 400 people max.  I love this board.  Gives me an outlet when bored.  I really should be on working toward the bonus, but it is Saturday, will get to it sometime today. 
Bright women
We started to "bud" in our blouses at 9 or 10 years old only to find that anything that came in contact with those tender, blooming buds hurt so bad it brought us to tears. So came the ridiculously uncomfortable training bra contraption that the boys in school would snap until we had calluses on our backs.
Next, we get our periods in our early to mid-teens (or sooner). Along with those budding boobs, we bloated, we cramped, we got the hormone crankies, had to wear little mattresses between our legs or insert tubular, packed cotton rods in places we didn't even know we had.

Our next little rite of passage was having sex for the first time which was about as much fun as having a ramrod push your uterus through your nostrils (IF he did it right and didn't end up with his little cart before his horse), leaving us to wonder what all the fuss was about. 
Then it was off to Motherhood where we learned to live on dry crackers and water for a few months so we didn't spend the entire day leaning over Brother John . Of course, amazing creatures that we are (and we are), we learned to live with the growing little angels inside us steadily kicking our innards night and day making us wonder if we were preparing to have Rosemary's Baby.
Our once flat bellies looked like we swallowed a whole watermelon and we pee'd our pants every time we sneezed. When the big moment arrived, the dam in our blessed Nether Regions invariably burst right in the middle of the mall and we had to waddle, with our big cartoon feet, moaning in pain all the way to the ER.
Then it was huff and puff and beg to die while theOB says, "Please stop screaming, Mrs. Hearmeroar . Calm down and push. "Just one more good push" (more like 10), warranting a strong, well-deserved impulse to punch the %$#*@*#!* hubby and doctor square in the nose for making us cram a wiggling, mushroom-headed 10 pound bowling ball through a keyhole.
After that, it was time to raise those angels only to find that when all that "cute" wears off, the beautiful little darlings morphed into walking, jabbering, wet, gooey, snot-blowing, life-sucking little poop machines.
Then come their "Teen Years." Need I say more?

When the kids are almost grown, we women hit our voracious sexual prime in our early 40's - while hubby had his somewhere around his 18th birthday.
So we progress into the grand finale: "The Menopause," the Grandmother of all womanhood. It's either take HRT and chance cancer in those now seasoned "buds" or the aforementioned Nether Regions, or, sweat like a hog in July, wash your sheets and pillowcases daily and bite the head off anything that moves.
Now, you ask WHY women seem to be more spiteful than men, when men get off so easy, INCLUDING the icing on life's cake: Being able to pee in the woods without soaking their socks...


I think this pretty much covers the issue.

So, while I love being a woman, "Womanhood" would make the Great Gandhi a tad crabby. You think women are the "weaker sex?" Yeah right. Bite me.


Ever wonder why pregnant women don't

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Scientists think they have figured out why pregnant women don't lose their balance and topple over despite ever-growing weight up front.
 
Slight differences in the spine allow women to carry the growing load of pregnancy without toppling over.


Evolution provided slight differences from men in women's lower backs and hip joints, allowing them to adjust their center of gravity, new research shows.


This elegant engineering is seen only in female humans and our immediate ancestors who walked on two feet, but not in chimps and apes, according to a study published in Thursday's journal Nature.


"That's a big load that's pulling you forward," said Liza Shapiro, an anthropology professor at the University of Texas and the only one of the study's three authors who has actually been pregnant. "You experience discomfort. Maybe it would be a lot worse if (the design changes) were not there."


Harvard anthropology researcher Katherine Whitcomb found two physical differences in male and female backs that until now had gone unnoticed: One lower lumbar vertebra is wedged-shaped in women and more square in men; and a key hip joint is 14 percent larger in women than men when body size is taken into account.


The researchers did engineering tests that show how those slight changes allow women to carry the additional and growing load without toppling over -- and typically without disabling back pain.


"When you think about it, women make it look so very easy," Whitcomb said. "They are experiencing a pretty impressive challenge. Evolution has tinkered ... to the point where they can deal with the challenge.
"It's absolutely beautiful," she said. "A little bit of tinkering can have a profound effect."


Walking on two feet separates humans from most other animals. And while anthropologists still debate the evolutionary benefit of walking on two feet, there are notable costs, such as pain for pregnant females. Animals on all fours can better handle the extra belly weight.


The back changes appear to have evolved to overcome the cost of walking on two feet, said Harvard anthropology professor Daniel Lieberman.


When the researchers looked back at fossil records of human ancestors, including the oldest spines that go back 2 million years to our predecessor, Australopithecus, they found a male without the lower-back changes and a female with them.


But what about men with stomachs the size of babies or bigger? What keeps them from toppling over?


Their back muscles are used to compensate, but that probably means more back pain, theorized Shapiro, who added: "It would be a fun study to do to look at men with beer bellies to see if they shift their loads."


women beat themselves up - it NEVER - sm
has anything to do with you, male, female or animal.  It is his behavior.  You cannot change that.   You can get really miserable trying to - been there, done that.
But why women seeking men?
Okay, what am I missing. Wouldn't it be men seeking men or men seeking women? I'm not saying you shouldn't be concered, I'm just confused. If a man wants to be sought by a woman, I think a man looking for a man would have no luck with him, right?

Having said that (I'm single), I used to browse the Yahoo men seeking women ads just to see what the competition was (never entered my profile, though, -- I'm a happy 'aloner'). It was funny because I found one of my daughter's teachers there!!

At any rate, I wish you luck and happiness.


I presume he is looking at the ads that women - sm
are putting out looking for men.....and he wants to be the man they seek. Guess he is looking at their ads to see if he meets their specs, and if they sound interesting to him as well. That would be my take on it.
Because women smarter than that. 1 is enough to
dr
Some women are too smart
They're brainwashed, and may never wise up.  Nowhere in the Bible does it condone this type of lifestyle.  Some lecherous man declared himself a prophet and wrote his own book - and that's what they base their religion on, not the Bible.
What is your opinion on these women getting
dfs
Only Women Bleed
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I'm not judging you but with there being so many women who do (sm)
have terrible guilt and remorse after ABs it would seem that there should be more involved to get one, at least a visit with an unbiased psychiatrist who tells the full story of how one might feel later. I had someone say to me, "Now this is your decision right? Later on you don't get to blame anyone else, not your boyfriend, not your friends, no one else." I said I wouldn't and that was the extent of my counseling. This was in the mid-90s. I think you should have to go apply for one, be given a counseling session, wait a week or two, and see if that is still what you want to do. I think women should be given extensive information on all of their options and possible emotional repercussions so that at least when they make their own personal "choice" at least it is a well-informed choice. For me it is not so much guilt toward God as it is to the child I allowed to be killed. It is not a religious thing at all.
Good will toward men (and women) sm
Sounds corny but we need a time to start "anew" and this represents a new beginning to me. We do gifts, tree, etc., but I really appreciate that people are trying with smiles, holding doors, etc. in this time of turmoil. Whether it's Hannukah, Christmas, solstice, etc., I just think of it as "good will toward men." Hopefully there is no hope for men, women and children. It gives kids something to look forward to. As for those who are suffering, my thoughts and prayers are with them. Donating to charity makes me feel better. I do it more for "me" than "them" as it makes me feel like I'm here for a reason other than my own selfish needs. New birth - that's always a happy time, don't have to be religious if you don't care to. Your decision and your personal moral beliefs are your business and your moral compass.
I feel there are a lot of women here
Who are bored and hitting a midlife crisis, and looking for justification in wanting to leave their spouses.

I've never seen such a myriad of complaints over such trivial nonsense in my life.

I'd love to see the other side of the coin, and what the spouses might have to say about the women to whom they are married.


Wonder what a group of men would be saying about women?
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women are supposed to have
babies, not litters.