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But you and I both know, women

Posted By: Lula on 2007-02-06
In Reply to: I think his point was that - little boys aren't being made take drugs....sm

have always and as far as I can see will continue to carry the burden. If we did not take birth control and it was left to a man to tell us they had taken a pill, would you want to chance that? I don't think so. If a woman has a child a lot of men can and do turn their backs and who is responsible then? It is the woman again. I take the responsibility for my own health- I would never want to leave up to a husband/partner to assure me he had taken his medicine for STD??/used his birth control??/infertile???/etc., etc. This is the reason you see lots of females left holding the bag because they do want to put trust in their man.


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well, of course the women
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I agree with the OP concerning professionalism.  I believe it comes from anything that jobs that (primarily) women perform having the perception of not being serious work.  If she is working at home, that perception is doubled.  I also agree with having a schedule and sticking to it; plus if you have help to do your primary work, do it and don't feel guilty.  Generally doing many things at once means you cannot do anything well in my opinion.  But I do have to admit what works for one person doesn't work for others. 


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If things were so good with the OP with her current marriage, do ya think she'd be online reconnecting with anybody?!?!?!?!


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you know that old sayin?  want a man in my life, not in my house full time?!?!??!! 



Good for you, but I'm just saying some women don't need or want a man....
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Unfortunately most men say that to women who are overweight.
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She does stuff like that all the time. I think the only place she's allowed to go by herself is work. She can't go to the grocery or get gas or to the drugstore without him. She has no friends other than their joint friends.


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Women of Faith
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We started to "bud" in our blouses at 9 or 10 years old only to find that anything that came in contact with those tender, blooming buds hurt so bad it brought us to tears. So came the ridiculously uncomfortable training bra contraption that the boys in school would snap until we had calluses on our backs.
Next, we get our periods in our early to mid-teens (or sooner). Along with those budding boobs, we bloated, we cramped, we got the hormone crankies, had to wear little mattresses between our legs or insert tubular, packed cotton rods in places we didn't even know we had.

Our next little rite of passage was having sex for the first time which was about as much fun as having a ramrod push your uterus through your nostrils (IF he did it right and didn't end up with his little cart before his horse), leaving us to wonder what all the fuss was about. 
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Our once flat bellies looked like we swallowed a whole watermelon and we pee'd our pants every time we sneezed. When the big moment arrived, the dam in our blessed Nether Regions invariably burst right in the middle of the mall and we had to waddle, with our big cartoon feet, moaning in pain all the way to the ER.
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I think this pretty much covers the issue.

So, while I love being a woman, "Womanhood" would make the Great Gandhi a tad crabby. You think women are the "weaker sex?" Yeah right. Bite me.


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Evolution provided slight differences from men in women's lower backs and hip joints, allowing them to adjust their center of gravity, new research shows.


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"When you think about it, women make it look so very easy," Whitcomb said. "They are experiencing a pretty impressive challenge. Evolution has tinkered ... to the point where they can deal with the challenge.
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Walking on two feet separates humans from most other animals. And while anthropologists still debate the evolutionary benefit of walking on two feet, there are notable costs, such as pain for pregnant females. Animals on all fours can better handle the extra belly weight.


The back changes appear to have evolved to overcome the cost of walking on two feet, said Harvard anthropology professor Daniel Lieberman.


When the researchers looked back at fossil records of human ancestors, including the oldest spines that go back 2 million years to our predecessor, Australopithecus, they found a male without the lower-back changes and a female with them.


But what about men with stomachs the size of babies or bigger? What keeps them from toppling over?


Their back muscles are used to compensate, but that probably means more back pain, theorized Shapiro, who added: "It would be a fun study to do to look at men with beer bellies to see if they shift their loads."


women beat themselves up - it NEVER - sm
has anything to do with you, male, female or animal.  It is his behavior.  You cannot change that.   You can get really miserable trying to - been there, done that.
But why women seeking men?
Okay, what am I missing. Wouldn't it be men seeking men or men seeking women? I'm not saying you shouldn't be concered, I'm just confused. If a man wants to be sought by a woman, I think a man looking for a man would have no luck with him, right?

Having said that (I'm single), I used to browse the Yahoo men seeking women ads just to see what the competition was (never entered my profile, though, -- I'm a happy 'aloner'). It was funny because I found one of my daughter's teachers there!!

At any rate, I wish you luck and happiness.


I presume he is looking at the ads that women - sm
are putting out looking for men.....and he wants to be the man they seek. Guess he is looking at their ads to see if he meets their specs, and if they sound interesting to him as well. That would be my take on it.
Because women smarter than that. 1 is enough to
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Some women are too smart
They're brainwashed, and may never wise up.  Nowhere in the Bible does it condone this type of lifestyle.  Some lecherous man declared himself a prophet and wrote his own book - and that's what they base their religion on, not the Bible.
What is your opinion on these women getting
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Only Women Bleed
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I'm not judging you but with there being so many women who do (sm)
have terrible guilt and remorse after ABs it would seem that there should be more involved to get one, at least a visit with an unbiased psychiatrist who tells the full story of how one might feel later. I had someone say to me, "Now this is your decision right? Later on you don't get to blame anyone else, not your boyfriend, not your friends, no one else." I said I wouldn't and that was the extent of my counseling. This was in the mid-90s. I think you should have to go apply for one, be given a counseling session, wait a week or two, and see if that is still what you want to do. I think women should be given extensive information on all of their options and possible emotional repercussions so that at least when they make their own personal "choice" at least it is a well-informed choice. For me it is not so much guilt toward God as it is to the child I allowed to be killed. It is not a religious thing at all.
Good will toward men (and women) sm
Sounds corny but we need a time to start "anew" and this represents a new beginning to me. We do gifts, tree, etc., but I really appreciate that people are trying with smiles, holding doors, etc. in this time of turmoil. Whether it's Hannukah, Christmas, solstice, etc., I just think of it as "good will toward men." Hopefully there is no hope for men, women and children. It gives kids something to look forward to. As for those who are suffering, my thoughts and prayers are with them. Donating to charity makes me feel better. I do it more for "me" than "them" as it makes me feel like I'm here for a reason other than my own selfish needs. New birth - that's always a happy time, don't have to be religious if you don't care to. Your decision and your personal moral beliefs are your business and your moral compass.
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I've never seen such a myriad of complaints over such trivial nonsense in my life.

I'd love to see the other side of the coin, and what the spouses might have to say about the women to whom they are married.


Wonder what a group of men would be saying about women?
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women are supposed to have
babies, not litters.
Dear 40+ women...

Please quit dressing like a teenager if you aren't in shape. You now have muffin top and flabby arms.


From Someone who works out


 


Men and Women- Relationships

I have heard people call their husbands or wives stupid. I am just curious. Do you believe there is really a dialogue between the genders. Do you respect your mate and vice versa.


I was watching Mad Men and the whole relationship between men & women in the 1950ies was very different. Men treated women as if they were children. They were petted and coddled, but these woman had no power, no sense of responsibility.


My husband is my partner. We make decisions that effect us jointly, together. I have my own bank acct. and he does too. We try not to have secrets. Most importantly- I am an individual in this marriage and so is he. If I didn't feel that way, I'd walk.


Sorry, women do bad things like this also
I love animals and hate to hear things like this but not only the other sex, have read about us also.
Nine Words Women Use
(1) Fine: This is the word women use to end an argument when they are right and you need to shut up.

(2)
Five Minutes: If she is getting dressed, this means a half an hour. Five minutes is only five minutes if you have just been given five more minutes to watch the game before helping around the house.

(3)
Nothing: This is the calm before the storm. This means something, and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with nothing usually end in fine.

(4)
Go Ahead: This is a dare, not permission. Don't Do It!

(5)
Loud Sigh: This is not actually a word, but a non-verbal statement is often misunderstood by men. A loud sigh means she thinks you are an idio*t and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing with you about nothing. (Refer k to # 3 for the meaning of nothing.)

(6)
That's Okay: This is one of the most dangerous statements a women can make to a man. That's okay means she wants to think long and hard before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake.

(7)
Thanks: A woman is thanking you, do not question it, or faint. Just say you're welcome. (I want to add in a clause here - This is true, unless she says 'Thanks a lot' - that is PURE sarcasm and she is not thanking you at all. DO NOT say 'you're welcome'.  That will bring on a 'whatever').

(8)
Whatever: Is a woman's way of saying F^&! YOU!

(9)
Don't worry about it, I got it: Another dangerous statement, meaning this is something that a woman has told a man
to do several times, but is now doing it herself. This will later result in a man asking 'What's wrong?' For the woman's response refer to above !! 


I dunno. Why are women so....sm
Aha! See there? You opened this message all primed and ready to take up arms at some offensive characterization of the entire female gender, didn't you? Admit it! I wouldn't have gotten away with something like that for a minute, would I?

"Men" aren't selfish, sex-crazed, messy, insensitive, or irresponsible...some men (and some women) are. "Women" aren't bitchy, whiney, frigid, clucking, nitpicking, oversensitive, or insecure...some women (and some men) are.

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I definitely would not defend him..... women are too
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I am using SlimQuick, made for women
I like it.
Right from the mouths of women scorn
Too bad for the child that they have to put up with their parents being so selfish.  JMO.  The kid probably was excited the girlfriend thought of the little fella' or gal.  A child has no concept of what Daddy did to Mommy to cause the problem or for that matter what Mommy did to Daddy.  It is such a shame.  Life is way too short.  Again JMO.
not just women - black men were used in 1950s-60s..
in the 1950s or 1960s a large number of black men were used to test syphilis and associated drugs.........they gave them syphilis.........or some such thing - you can Google this and I think it happened in the deep south....(but of course in the 50s, early 60s, wouldn't have happened in NY for example)....and maybe some of you readers may know what I'm trying to convey, the story......so it's not *just* women...but it is disgusting no matter WHO it is..........and no, I wouldn't subject my potential future granddaughters with this - I'd send 'em to private school if that's the case.
What I see on this board is the fact women
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Men just are not the emotional creatures that women are--sm
like another poster stated, if he was not like this before marriage, he never will be. However, you should still talk to him. He cannot do on his own what he does not know you want from him. He will never do it *on his own* because he does not know that is what you expect. He is not a mind reader. If you don't talk to him about this, you are going to end up resentful of him and your relationship will not last. You sound like you want him to treat you like a baby instead of a wife. Maybe you should reevaluate what your expectations are from a marriage.
This is exactly why women are the ones who have babies. Most men are such "WIMPS" it isn't
even funny!!!!! They can't handle it. That is the ONLY reason a man won't take care of his health - because they are afraid of what the doc might say. I say, be a man, toughen up, and take care of yourself! It doesn't do anyone any good if you're good and dead! Trust me on this one. It took me YEARS to get my husband to go to the doc. He finally did it and now is better than me when it comes to appointments! hahahaha
The women are gentle pickers.
Men just grab and bruise, women pick.
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Most women who kill their husbands SM
get life in prison without parole, whether they deserve it or not.

I usually take the woman's side in this, since I too was an abused wife, but her getting a lenient sentence due to her husband supposedly making her dress up in sexy outfits?

Outcome is debatable. I do always think if all abused wives murdered their husbands and I imagine many deserve it, the streets would be littered with dead husbands.

PS
After my divorce found wonderful man that I thank God for every day.
Not every women carries a child
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Do you remember when they threw a fit because the women said
they wanted their faces covered on a driver's license?  Don't get me started. If they don't like the way it's done here, move back to where they came from. I just can't understand why we have to adapt the culture of everyone else while denying our own.
Embarassing, but since mostly women here - recurrent BV
Have had this recurring for about a year...have taken Flagyl and used metro.  Keeps coming back.