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My grandchildren bypassed me in earlier years

Posted By: What I did on 2007-11-20
In Reply to: Thanks for not telling me I'm a bad person!! (sm) - Anon - definitely anon!! :-)

to go to their maternal grandmother, their aunts, their cousins, etc. I just finally gave up and did not seek out their visiting me anymore. Their mother did not want to share (my son should have done his share to see both grandparents to have time)- bottom line on this, they live about 15 minutes away- girl went off to college and wrote me saying surprised I did not come around nor call and I seemed to be ok with that. I did not go into why I was not in the picture, told her I was very happy and accept things as they were. She said saw her aunt more than me and told her that was the way it had been since she was born, not my choice but I just came to accept it. I do not worry about it anymore.


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I studied this years and years and years ago
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