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Okay, Utah passed a law permitting college students to now carry guns. sm

Posted By: Let's see on 2008-02-21
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I am very for this and think it's a great idea. Now let's see how many colleges in Utah have shoot outs like those in the other states. I bet shooters will think twice about going in and blowing a place up knowing that there are probably many people carrying concealed weapons. I would feel much safer in a Utah college than anywhere else.


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Yes Utah
is like that too...hot and dry...desert heat! Easily 110 to 118 on the hottest summer days.
There are atheists in Utah? Personally,
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How many campus shootings have there been in Utah?
I think a more telling statistic would be how many have occurred in the state to date versus how many, if any, occur after the passage of this law.


Guns versus doctors

Doctors


   (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.


   (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.


   (C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.


Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services



Now think about this:



Guns


  (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million)


  (B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.


  (C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner .000188.



Statistics courtesy of FBI



So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.


Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'



FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.



Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!


Out of concern for the public at large, I withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention!


Utah or Salt Lake City, info please
My vacation is right around the corner, starting the 25th of this month. I would like to know what is this doing for the people coming into SLC, is there a problem with the fires there? I am still (hopefully) looking forward to visiting your state, my first time there. Any sites I should try to work in? Thanks.
Maybe point and shoot like two machine guns? ....LOL!
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I've also heard about paint ball guns...
they shoot people walking or riding on the sidewalk/road.  And those things HURT...what's up with the youth of today?  Are they really that bored, I mean, they have sooo much more than we (most of us) did when we were growing up.  Maybe that's the problem, they're spoiled...anyway, I do hope they get caught.  Thank goodness for my good kids!
And don't throw her a ball, because if she misses and it hits her guns, they may blow!
LOL
stick to your guns and let the bride and groom decide who they would like at the wedding(sm)
Twenty years ago there were 150 people at my wedding.  I knew MAYBE 20 of them.  My parents INSISTED on inviting every single long-distance cousin and relative, most of whom I (and certainly my husband) did not know and had never met.  Granted, MA and Dad were paying for the wedding but I've always felt like I missed out on having MY wedding because, in order to stay within their budget, I only invited about five or ten friends.  And my husband and his parents felt like they COULDN'T invite anyone because of the budget restraints and my parents' guest list.  We ended up with about 20 people on my husband's side of the church (basically his immediate family), three of his friends, five of mine, and the rest were mostly my distant, DISTANT unknown relatives (with a few close relatives scattered among the many distants).  I look back now and wish that I had taken better charge of the situation.  It certainly would have cost my parents less money because I wasn't going to invite that many people. 
For so many of the students they spend more
time with the teacher than they do with their parents. These teachers are preparing these kids to be the future of our country someday. Look at the money that atheletes make for playing a game. It is ridiculous.
Dress code for students?
Our school system is looking at implementing a strict dress code for all students...khaki pants and solid colored collard shirts (basically a polo shirt) but no brand-names are allowed.  My children hate the idea..ages 14 and 16.  Any opinion on this?
My SIL is professor at university, where students SM
can post their thoughts about professors and some female professors have been called the "b-word". I don't think they were really terribly broken up by it.

I think it was over-reaction of school.

My daughter is also a teacher in middle school. I may run this by her.
ESL students in elementary schools
They probably bought the store from a cousin.

I grew up in public schools where about 1/3 of my fellow students in elementary school were SE asian refugee children and some spanish speaking children and some who spoke other things. My teachers did not know what to do with classes of 33 students (5 over limit) where they had students speaking Laotian, Cambodian, Vietnamese, Spanish, and who knows what else, and little to no English. These kids spent an hour a day in ESL but they never caught up (maybe by senior year in high school, some of them) . There is another method where they spend their first year in intensive ESL study before going into the regular classroom. Since kids learn languages better the younger they are, this makes a lot more sense. I know that I and other students were slowed down by this problem in the classroom (as well as the fact that the school could not keep up with the numbers and our classes were overcrowded).
I agree, they should receive more respect from students

and parents alike. I just don't believe they are underpaid for the actual hours they put in.


Federal laws require that students be educated....sm
on their level however it gets frustrating for parents when their child isn't "normal" and they have to fight with schools to get their child educated. It's crazy that your nephew was passed from school to school without being able to read. As a foster parent I had a prior foster child that came to me in the 5th grade but could really only read at a 1st grade level and was very behind in all subjects.... yet her report cards from her prior schools all gave her A's and B's and commented on what a wonderful student she was. I busted my butt working with the caseworkers to get her the extra assistance she needed to get caught up and teaching her how to work around her learning disabilities, which were diagnosed while she was with me. Did the school want to cooperate? No.... but all it took was one letter from an education attorney to get them to realize that we were going to force them to educate this child instead of passing her own without helping her and then they started working with us. Crazy thing is that the federal laws require it, provide the money for it but the schools don't want to deal with the paperwork or having to do it... and they prefer just changing grades for kids and passing them on instead of helping them. This sends these kids on the dead-end street because they eventually graduate without any skills and oftentimes it goes downhill from there.

When I was growing up we had 1 teacher to maybe 10 or 15 students, and the teachers had time to work with the kids individually as they needed it. Now the schools want to cram as many kids into a classroom as they can, don't give teachers any help and on top of that expect the teachers to spend money on supplies, yet my property taxes keep going up to pay for the schools and I'm in a growing area with new houses being slapped up faster than you can say your name.

It's wrong that the schools don't give a crap when a child isn't "normal" and they want to pass them on without helping them, and they expect the parents to bail them out. Sure as a parent I'm willing to do my part but I'm not going to spend time doing all of the education of a child regardless of whether they're biological or foster, especially if the school isn't trying to educate them during the day.
Students Denied Hot Lunch Until Money Paid

STEAMBOAT SPRINGS, Colo. — Forget pizza, hamburgers and macaroni and cheese.


Dozens of students at Steamboat Springs schools are getting peanuts, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches — or nothing — for lunch this week after the district cut off those with unpaid balances on their school lunch accounts.


Nutritional Services director Max Huppert says students owing $6 or more were not allowed to use the district's automated payment system to buy hot lunches when they returned to school Monday. The move affected about 25 elementary students and an unknown number of middle school students.


The affected elementary school students were given snack food instead, but the others received nothing.


Huppert says about half of the nearly $10,000 owed to the district has since been paid.


Holiday Gift/Craft Ideas for Elem. Students

Hi.  I need ideas for kids to make gifts (minimal painting, minimal glueing) as they have to be ready to wrap.  What was your favorite keepsate gift from your child so far?


 


TIA


The students at the Golden Lab Academy eagerly awaited their first fieldtrip.
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gees you really want to carry this on, don't you..sm
maybe my body will become worm food, but my soul will not be here and nor will I care, at that point. boy, that would be a really cute decoration, if I was taxidermied and placed in the living room...that might just keep out some of your antichrist cooties, right there! lol. and that is ROFL, not ROLF.
Conceal/Carry
Judging by all the negative posts to your post I would say that these people don't understand the process. In order to carry, at least in most places, you need a permit. You are investigated and have minimal training and testing before you are allowed to carry a concealed weapon. People with a past history of mental disorder or felonies are not supposed to be licensed for this. Crazies and felons already have guns and do use them. Just read the paper and you will see what I mean. The only people who were defenseless up until now in Utah in colleges were the people who were not crazy or felons and were not willing to break the rules and carry anyway. Does that sound fair to these people? Crazies and felons walking around armed (they don't really care if they are caught) and the rest of us waiting for something bad to happen?

I have guns and have had since I was 18 years old. I have, in the past, had PMS, but am not crazy, have never been arrested. All the years I had PMS I never once shot anyone in my "PMS state" and a couple of times I had a few too many glasses of wine - I shot no one at those times either. I get angry too from time to time and so far no one has been shot, so those arguments are ridiculous. The way I see it, the constitution provides a way for us to protect ourselves if we wish to and need to. I wish to. If you don't, that is okay too. People who are uncomfortable around firearms should not have one. Those who do feel comfortable should have the right if they are mentally stable, not a felon and have training and a license. Once my gun ownership probably saved me from something really ugly when a man tried to break down my front door at 2:00 a.m. I was on the phone with the police who were trying to get to my house, but there was a robbery in progress and I lived in a small town at the time, so I was "next" in line. At the point where I could no longer hear the police dispatcher (the guy was screaming, kicking the door and pounding on it, I made my choice. It was evident that I was the only one there who could protect me. I set the phone down and told him to move away from my door or I would shoot him through it. When he heard me put one into the chamber of the weapon (shotguns are really loud) he got scared and took off. Evidently, he had heard that sound before. I did not have to shoot him at all. When the police finally arrived 20 minutes later they found that he had been outside my home for quite some time before he decided to try to get in as evidenced by liquor bottles and cigarette butts on the ground where he had been hiding. After the fact, he was found to be extremely dangerous. I am thankful I had a shotgun and handguns that night. I am still thankful that I have them. I have killed no one, have scared one person who meant me harm. I don't think you necessarily have to be a law enforcement officer in order to make good decisions in a crisis situation. Others can do that too and have that right as long as they go about it in a lawful way. I am happy that Utah has the foresight to allow their students and teachers the right to protect themselves. I hope other states follow their example.
Why do they carry slacks in different
lengths only to carry short and average in the stores?  Nothing is more irritating than to go through the entire pile to find there are no slacks in tall.  I asked in the stores and their comment was they don't get many requests for tall.  Oh please. 
Also pack anything you buy in your carry-on - sm
one of my group made the mistake of packing her stuff in her luggage, every single thing was stolen that she bought there. I took mine in my carry-on bag, as did everyone else but her. Just be smart and aware.
Mine don't carry them but can find at
a Michael's or Joanns crafts.  You can use a wax milk carton for your mold.  Make sure wick is correct size for your mold - i.e., different wicks for different circumferances. 
men carry lots of these things

Women get Trichamonas, men don't *get* it - they are just carriers of it and hence both would have to get treated.  Men can be and are carriers.........


try googling HPV and you can find out TONS of info on the subject


 



You need to make threats and carry through
I am exactly the same way, get shocked if someone suddenly enters my room. Cannot sit with my back to the door. I told my husband he could not enter anymore without knocking because of how much it scared me and if he wanted to continue, I would take my cup of coffee and throw at him, it really scared me that much. He taps on the door outside before entering, so much nicer.
Blow them off, change your *name*, and carry on!
;)
Carry the hardwood into the kitchen!

It is just as easy to care for as linoleum and it will look wonderful carried through continuously.  It will make your house look more spacious.


Best tip that was passed on to me was -
half price tickets for Broadway shows at ticket place in Times Square- go in the morning and see what they have available for the evening. Not everything available - but we was able to see 2 shows instead of the one I had planned for.  There is a nice Marriott right there - pricey but it is gorgeous and very centrally located.  We stayed at an older hotel - can't remember it now - we didn't spend much time in the room - daughter was in dance competitions and between practice and performances we only got there long enough to crash.  It was really a bargain - clean but small. 
My MIL passed away....

right before our 3rd anniversary, so unfortunately didn't get to know her as well as I could have, but she was a very nice lady.  Her husband, on the other hand...well, my FIL has been very generous in some respects and in others, he is just a giant PITA.  He can be so mean sometimes I could just scream.  As he has gotten older, the filter between his brain and his mouth has deteriorated to the point that I think he needs a replacement. 


My husband has an older brother and his sister died 15 years ago .  We all get along well with BIL and his family.  Our one nephew is at our house as much as our own kids, which is great.  I always lived 2 hours away from my cousins. 


My sister also married a great guy and we all go on vacation together with my parents every summer.


I think I'm pretty lucky! 


I'm sorry he passed away, but
you are right - it sounds like he died a very happy horse, cherished and doing what he wanted to be doing.

He was a handsome boy.
When my dad passed away very

suddenly at age 70 we were very sad and went through all the emotions of what you said. It took us a couple of days to realize what dad said to us for all those years before we planned a celebration of his life and everything changed the day we planned the memorial. Everybody grieves in different ways. Some cry, some celebrate the life the person lived.


My dad was a jokester and always said when he passed to just put him in a cardboard box and drop him (for years we were told this). He lived his life like he wanted. When we were planning the memorial for him, as we had him cremated, the funeral director must have thought he met the craziest family ever. I went with my mom to pick out an urn for him along with some other family members. Sitting there going through the brochure and just like reading a book I turned to the last page and just started cracking up, laughing so hard I started crying. I start getting kicks under the table, evil eyes from others and weird looks from the funeral director. They all turn to the last page and there on the back page is this dilapidated cardboard box and they all started cracking up with me. By this time everyone is laughing and crying and mom is saying "should I" - she didnt. That was when everything turned for us. Dad was probably looking down at us laughing thinking that we would do it. He was very vocal for years about how he wanted to go and be remembered and it took that one day to realize that for us.


Hopefully it's a benevolent spirit! Acknowledge it and carry on. :) nm
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And the scariest part is, they then carry this disease
among many others without even knowing and spread them around.
Mice carry vermin, get rid of the stove sm
I don't know where you live, but call Goodwill or some derivative of that type, Craig's list as mentioned or a free newspaper which advertises cheap and don't risk getting sick. Make sure you disinfect all that area and plug it all up and reseal probably with a piece of plywood or something before you replace the stove. Perhaps you can arrange for your town to pick the old stove up. I wouldn't use it. Sorry for your troubles at Christmas, it must be hard. Perhaps you can get some frozen meals to microwave or canned food from the local church food bank. I was told by a friend who works at a food bank that the government provides them with a check for a certain amount and they have to spend that whole amount on food, not a penny less, and they sometimes have too much food. Also, see if there is a church near you who provides meals. Some around here provide lunch and dinner and don't ask questions. Research, research, don't be proud, everyone is hurting. Good luck to you! Hope you do okay, everyone gets mice, no one is immune, just disinfect, make sure they don't get back in and replace the stove.
Food should be passed to the right, or

counter-clockwise, For additional information on dining etiquette, please consult Manners 2000 Volume I Social Graces and Table Manners Video.


I mom passed away last September..sm
I cannot put into words how awful this has been. My mom was only 63 and not sick when she passed. She was my best friend...my entire life. I truely understand what you are feeling. I miss having her here for holidays, birthday parties, and everything else. This year on Mother's Day it had to be the worst day ever, as my birthday fell right on Mother's Day. I hate when people tell me she is in a better place and blah..blah..blah. Why is that better than here with her family where we all loved and cherished her? The only thing I know is that it does not get any better with time. The only thing you can do is take it one day at a time and always remember the love you have for them. I remember my mom everyday and cry for her and love her everyday. My heart aches knowing it will never be the way it used to be. My prayers are for you and what you are feeling. Take Care.
When my mother passed away sm
the only thing she had specified was the burial service. My brother and I chose to have donations made to the church (my mother and my family all attended the same church) and the money was specified for youth programs. I recieved many cards, all were addressed to the entire family. They truely brought me some comfort. Personal messages inside are very thoughtful and truely touched my heart I still get them out from time to time and that also helps. I still remember exactly who called a few weeks later just to see how I was getting along, so definitely do that.
My dad passed away recently too
You say you think it is disrespectful to cremate and memorialize later.

Some things you should take into consideration. Did your cousin pass away far from home? My dad did. In fact, he was 1610 miles from home, on the road, with only my mother there with him. Options were limited.

Secondly, where is the family? All of us kids are on the west coast, my dad's family is in the mid west. As a matter of fact, my mom and dad had just sold their home here on the west coast and moved back to my dad's home town less than one month ago.

Third, who are you to decide what is the best for everyone? Our IMMEDIATE family has lost a father, husband, and grandfather. It is our choice and we are the ones who were informed of his wishes prior to his death, not our cousins, aunts, uncles, etc... How would you know?




I don’t like expired and also don’t like passed on
passed to where? Get this, our newspaper publishes Happy Birthday in the paper to people who have died years before - I did not think you had a birthday, much less a happy birthday after you died.
This is the reason I refuse to carry a debit card....sm
Most retailers do not require you to use a PIN and there is no security on these things. I've heard of many people like your daughter getting stuck without money for a few days while waiting for the bank to credit them back. Another problem that happens sometimes, including happening to my husband when we were dating was that when we ate out the waiter made an error on the charges to the debit card - charging $440.00 instead of $44.00. The waiter immediately ran the credit and the manager apologized, but the bank still took out the $440 until they received the written confirmation from the restaurant's bank of the error. Fortunately he had the money in his account to cover this error but other people would bounce checks over it. The same thing happened to my mom - an error was made and she was without as much as she should have had for the 3 business days it took to credit her back.

Your daughter should immediately talk to the police department about the fraud and the bank. Good luck straightening it out!
You carry food for lost animals in your car? You are an angel!
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Bring a light, easy-to carry stool.
You will be surprised how long the walk is, and often the grass is damp, but you'll want to sit on it. I walk my dogs up to 3 miles, but it still seemed like a long walk on a warm day.

You'll want a wide-brimmed straw hat for the sun, too. Sunglasses of course and great, cushiony shoes you could stand in for hours. Most kids would not enjoy tagging along.

I enjoy watching golf on TV very much. It's the only sport DH and I both watch.
Gerald Ford passed away, he was 93. RIP.
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Angels passed by our home
only 2 months ago and my dad took his heavenly flight.

Only a God-called grandmother could love you as she did. The only way your grandmother could have ever share such love for you was first being loved by God. Paradise is her home!

My dad had COPD and was diagnosed with cancer in November of 2006 and sent home with hospice with 6 months to live. He passed away in less than 2 months.

He asked hospice to please not let him "smother to death." His last 2 weeks were exactly as you described. I had difficulty watching as he was administered morphine and Ativan because I knew the morphine would suppress his respiratory system even more. He was on oxygen but struggled with every breath. He began to conserve all his energy just to breathe. He was alert but spoke very little. He was given only water via sponge and all medications were stopped the week of his passing. My family and I were by his bedside the entire time, and every day he became more weaker. He asked that we pray that the Lord would come soon, and all this time I'm trying to convince my family that we needed to take a more aggressive approach (IV fluids and blood transfusion). Early morning on the day of his death he became unconscious. There was the most precious, sweet comfort and peace felt by everyone in the room at the exact moment my dad drew his last struggling breath and took his heavenly flight.

As 2 months have now passed, I realize the care he received was appropriate, and hospice was loving and caring. I just wasn't ready to "let my dad go."

May you feel God's presence in the sweet memory of your grandmother. Grandmothers are earthly angels from God.
food passed to the right but if someone is serving

Once, right in the nose and fell down/passed out
for a few minutes. Ouch! It was 25+ years ago by another girl over a boy, but unfortunately she was probably double my weight. My sisters weren't very helpful, they lifted me back up and while I was still stumbling around and seeing double said ''get her!''. Yeah, sure. Even the girl was decent enough to know I couldn't handle any more. So I took the loss :(
congress passed no law in 2005
Introduction

This article applies to users in the following regions that have experienced daylight saving time (DST) or time zone changes during 2007:


U.S. and Canada (where DST is observed):The U.S. Energy Policy Act of 2005, passed by the U.S. Congress July 2005, extended daylight saving time in the U.S. by approximately four weeks. As a result, beginning in 2007, DST for the U.S. will start three weeks earlier on March 11, 2007, and end one week later on November 4, 2007, resulting in a new DST period that is four weeks longer than previously observed. These four weeks are referred to in this article as the "extended DST period." Visit MSN Encarta for more general information about DST. Canada chose to follow the U.S. change, in regions where DST is observed.

U.S. 2007 change in daylight saving time:
Previously DST started on: With the new law, DST will start on: Previously DST ended on: With the new law, DST will end on:
First Sunday of April Second Sunday of March Last Sunday of October First Sunday of November
Would have been: April 1, 2007 Will now be: March 11, 2007 Would have been: October 28, 2007 Will now be: November 4, 2007


Other regions: Microsoft is providing updates for several other regions or countries that have enacted time zone changes in 2007, including:
I passed around several transcription books -sm
at the beginning of a semester to a class at a business school for the 20+-year-old students to see various TX resources available and afterwards, one book was "missing". I was very surprised. Bottom line: The bookstore was out the book, and I hated the loss for the school. Actually the bookstore was probably out twice for the book if it was afterwards returned to the bookstore for resale by the student who stole it.
Michigan passed it and I support it.
I think anyone who is seriously ill should have whatever is available to help ease their pain.  I know it helps with nausea of chemotherapy too.  I think it should be decriminalized.  People are killed every day by drunk driving or those who go into violent rages or blackouts.  Most pot smokers will only get enraged if you try to take away their Dorito's! 
I agree....and pills are just passed out
Like candy anymore.  I see people come into the office with a list of meds so long they cannot possibly remember the names... also, even though doctors claim they can prescribe 10 different meds for a patient without interactions, I worry about that.  How can they possibly know that, especially when every human being's chemistry is a little different.  ??
Farrah Fawcett has passed away. RiP sm
When I would walk down the halls at my junior high, Farrahs were everywhere, on nearly every boy's locker door. They even called the main hall "Farrahway" because her image was everywhere. I struggled to keep my hair like hers with a curling iron and a few cans of AquaNet a week. She was very much a part of my youth.

RIP, Farrah.