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stick to your guns and let the bride and groom decide who they would like at the wedding(sm)

Posted By: SP on 2007-04-23
In Reply to: Son's wedding - Grandma is insisting - that certain people be invited that our son

Twenty years ago there were 150 people at my wedding.  I knew MAYBE 20 of them.  My parents INSISTED on inviting every single long-distance cousin and relative, most of whom I (and certainly my husband) did not know and had never met.  Granted, MA and Dad were paying for the wedding but I've always felt like I missed out on having MY wedding because, in order to stay within their budget, I only invited about five or ten friends.  And my husband and his parents felt like they COULDN'T invite anyone because of the budget restraints and my parents' guest list.  We ended up with about 20 people on my husband's side of the church (basically his immediate family), three of his friends, five of mine, and the rest were mostly my distant, DISTANT unknown relatives (with a few close relatives scattered among the many distants).  I look back now and wish that I had taken better charge of the situation.  It certainly would have cost my parents less money because I wasn't going to invite that many people. 


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The guest list is up to the bride & groom....sm
no one else!  Of course if grandma wants to foot the bill for the wedding then I'm sure they'd consider her desires. 
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You need to send a wedding gift if you attend the wedding - sm
If possible you should drop it by the brides or grooms house, etc. so you don't have to take it to the wedding, and so they don't have to worry about transporting the gifts from the church or the reception. You should always send a wedding gift if you attend the wedding though.
This wedding, the wedding party will be releasing butterflies!
Apparently, you can buy live butterflies, individually packaged, that can be released after the ceremony.  The bride and groom are 65 and 68 years old, for crying out loud and this is their second marriage.  This wedding is the craziest thing I've ever seen!
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Guns versus doctors

Doctors


   (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.


   (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.


   (C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.


Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services



Now think about this:



Guns


  (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million)


  (B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.


  (C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner .000188.



Statistics courtesy of FBI



So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.


Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'



FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.



Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!


Out of concern for the public at large, I withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention!


Maybe point and shoot like two machine guns? ....LOL!
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I've also heard about paint ball guns...
they shoot people walking or riding on the sidewalk/road.  And those things HURT...what's up with the youth of today?  Are they really that bored, I mean, they have sooo much more than we (most of us) did when we were growing up.  Maybe that's the problem, they're spoiled...anyway, I do hope they get caught.  Thank goodness for my good kids!
And don't throw her a ball, because if she misses and it hits her guns, they may blow!
LOL
Okay, Utah passed a law permitting college students to now carry guns. sm
I am very for this and think it's a great idea. Now let's see how many colleges in Utah have shoot outs like those in the other states. I bet shooters will think twice about going in and blowing a place up knowing that there are probably many people carrying concealed weapons. I would feel much safer in a Utah college than anywhere else.
Beautiful bride!
Congratulations to ALL of you ;-)
Are you serious? What bride pays for the dresses? LOL
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You are not unreasonable...the bride sounds..

like a pain, I feel sorry for the groom! If she does not like your dress she can buy you a new one and any accessories you might need to go along with it. Or you can simply not be the keeper of the guest book, which is what I would do if I were you! Good luck and don't feel bad! If this ruins her "special day" she is pretty shallow!


Gaaa.... what a snotty bride! Here's what I would do -sm
Tell her you'll 'look around for something, but at this late date you don't know if you'll find anything.' Then WEAR the red dress. Totally do your hair and makeup, and you're gonna look SMASHING. Go ahead and look better than the bride. Serves her right for being so snotty.

And oh, yeah - 'Guest Book Monitor' - BLEAH. The first wedding I ever went to was my best junior high friend's wedding. But I guess I was no longer even a 'good' friend in high school or jr. college, 'cause at her wedding I was left out of the wedding party and told I had to be in charge of the guest book.

I stood by it in the church, and that allowed me to have my preferred seating.... way in the back of the church! Then at the reception, there was that danged book again, and her mom telling me I had to make sure EVERYONE signed it. Well, I lasted maybe 5 minutes, until I smelled food. After that, I left the book to it's own fate, and went in to the reception and ate to my heart's content. As soon as the cake had been cut, I got one of the first pieces. I'd been seated at a table with a bunch of older people I didn't know at all and had nothing to talk about with. Never did see my friend all day, other than walking down the aisle! So, I developed an 'upset stomach' and left early so I could go home and go for a nice long, QUIET bike ride. Didn't say goodbye to anyone. And I never signed the Guest Book, either.
Bride 65, grooom 68, 2nd marriage for both. No
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9-year old bride "marries"

See the link below.


Was it rude of my bride friend to register for...

My friend just got married. When I went to the store and requested a copy of the bridal registry, I found several $200-$600 items on the registry. I was shocked.


I do not know if it is proper or not, but I have always been told you "pay for your meal" in the gift you bring, so I always assume at least $75 to $100 for a sit down meal. But, she and her fiancé are both middle class at best, so I was not initially expecting a big wedding.


When I saw so many $200 to $600 on the registry, I concluded, incorrectly, that they had decided to throw a big bash. I bought my gift very late and the registry still did not show that ANY items over $150 had sold. I spent $150 on my gift, which was more than it looked like anyone else was paying, but if you wait until the last minute, your options at the low end are very limited! That is my own fault!


They actually served a very low budget buffet, prepared by neighbors and friends, for the meal. It was actually a lower budget wedding than I expected. I am not criticizing their decision to save money on the wedding. I think lots of people spend way too much money on weddings. BUT, I do think it was rather presumptuous of her to register for such pricey items when most of her friends and family cannot afford them and when she was not throwing a fancy wedding.


I am not complaining about spending $150 and not getting "my money's worth" from the meal...that is NOT my point at all. BUT, I do think if you are going to put items like that on your bridal registry you need to consider who your friends are and whether or not your circles can afford such items. I am in a financial position where I could decide to buy a $150 item, but not all of her friends could even go that high and there was very little below $100 to choose from even if they were the first ones to shop.


Is it really typical for middle class people to request such high ticket items for wedding gifts these days? Or was it actually as presumptuous as I perceive it to be?


The bride magazines say no white, ivory, too sexy, and don't
try to match the brides maid colors. Ask the bride for her ideas of color, styles. The style should be similar to the mother of the bride, if possible, such as length. A 2 piece suit would be nice and tasteful, short for day or long for evening.
The majority of bridesmaids buy their own dresses unless bride's family
is extremely wealthy.
I've never had a bride offer to pay for the attendant's dresses. nm
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This is tthe same bride?!?! lol, the one having bridesmaids, flower girl, etc.
and was upset about you wearing red? I absolutely thought you were talking about a much younger gal like in her 20s!

She is 65? This is just way too much!

LOL.
This is a REAL contract a bride asked her bridesmaids to sign...

*Bridesmaid’s Contract*
Hello my beautiful bridesmaids! Let me just say again how happy I am that you are going to be a part of my special day! Below are just a few guidelines for the wedding that I’d like you to review, please initial by each point, sign at the end and send back to me. Just want to make sure they’re aren’t any surprises! The planning bride is a happy bride!
Thanks a bunch! Love ya!
-The Bride-To-Be


______ My hair will remain at the length it is now or longer.
______ I will not change my hair color without first consulting BRIDE and providing a sample photo or hair swatch for consideration.
______ I will use Sally Hansen’s “Maximum Growth-Daily Nail Growth program” every day for the 4 months before the wedding day.
______ I will not gain more than 4lbs from the weight I was when I was asked to be a bridesmaid.


(Sarah and Anne only for the point below…)
______ I will join a well-known weight loss program and through whatever means necessary will lose the desired amount of weight as previously discussed with BRIDE at the time when asked to be a bridesmaid in her wedding.



______ I swear to attend all showers, (lingerie, kitchen, bridal & bachelorette) to arrive in a timely manner and do everything in my power to support and “be there” for the bride.
______ I will purchase the DESIGNER style # 464 dress below in Pistachio/Ivory within 3 weeks of today.
______ I will NOT knowingly get pregnant without notifying BRIDE at least 6 months prior to the wedding so a suitable alternate can be found. I will also give my purchased bridesmaid dress to said alternate.


I do hereby swear that I will adhere to all of the above & other understood bridesmaid duties for the wedding on DATE, 2008
X_________________________
(sign, print and date)


Let us know what you decide - nm
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I think you should tell them and let them decide what they want to do.

My husband died six months ago suddenly and unexpectedly.  My niece, who just turned 12, has always been extremely close to my husband and me, and spends a lot of time at our house.  LIke your children, she had never experienced death in a close relative before.  The day he died, my brother and sister-in-law picked her up from school and broke the news to her.  She was sad of course and she cried for quite a while. 


Her parents gave her the choice of what she wanted to do in regards to go to the funeral home and/or attend the funeral.  She chose to come to the funeral home and sit with me, and to attend the funeral. 


She later wrote on the subject when the class had to write an essay at school about a life altering event.  She wrote about how much she loved her uncle and she felt that was her last chance to say goodbye, as she didn't get to say goodbye before he died.  She was sad that he died suddenly and she didn't know ahead of time, and that seemed to hurt her a lot, even though nothing could change that.


As for me, her presence at that time made me feel a little better.  My husband's death has made she and I even closer.  She's very smart and mature for her age.  She knows sometimes when I get a little sad, that I'm thinking of my husband, and she totally understands, cause she still misses him too.


I know this is kind of rambling, but I hope it makes sense.  I think kids want to be a part of our experiences, the good and the bad, and I think to exclude them, even when you think you're protecting them, makes them feel left out. 


Good luck to you and your family.  My prayers are with you.


 


So then why take any drugs at all? Or why not let's just decide which
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Couldn't decide whether to
laugh or vomit with that story!
if you decide to give
my suggestion would be to get something bigger than 0-3 months. they go through that stage so quickly and lots of people give that size.
How do you decide to have a baby?
This is different for EVERYONE I'm sure, but in general, if any of you are mothers... did you decide the time was right, did it just happen... did you plan?

I've been told if you wait until you can afford to have children, you'll never have them...

The predicament is this. my future husband is ready to have a baby now. He wants to be a father, and as much as this makes me fall in love with him all over again, I joked with him that his biological clock was ticking and he said in all seriousness, that he guesses it is. However, mine is not. Not now. Will this happen to me? Does it happen to every woman at some point? We are in our late 20s, but I am just asking in general, how do you compromise on something as big as having a baby? I do want a family and children, but I guess I'm just looking for people's stories on this one... Thank you!

How do you decide to have a baby?
This is different for EVERYONE I'm sure, but in general, if any of you are mothers... did you decide the time was right, did it just happen... did you plan?

I've been told if you wait until you can afford to have children, you'll never have them...

The predicament is this. my future husband is ready to have a baby now (when i say now, we would wait until after marriage). He wants to be a father, and as much as this makes me fall in love with him all over again, I joked with him that his biological clock was ticking and he said in all seriousness, that he guesses it is. However, mine is not. Not now. Will this happen to me? Does it happen to every woman at some point? We are in our late 20s, but I am just asking in general, how do you compromise on something as big as having a baby? I do want a family and children, but I guess I'm just looking for people's stories on this one... Thank you!

Easy for men to decide

Some guys are good dads - willing to pitch in and help take care of the child's needs, and give it plenty of time and attention.


There are quite a few guys out there that like the IDEA of a child - as long as it doesn't cramp their style.  This means it all devolves upon the mother - care of the child 24/7, criticism from him and his family if you aren't doing it their way, but of course any bragging rights are all theirs.


Then there are the demands of academia - when your child gets sent home with a backpack full of paperwork to review on a nightly basis, whose job will that be?


Another thought is the possibility of divorce down the road - what happens then?  Quite a few dads who let mom do all the work suddenly become superdad when the thought of child support comes along, and they will do anything to win custody so that YOU have to pay THEM.  Even if you win custody, the head games with visitation schedules, daddy's new girlfriend pushing her way into the picture, etc. never end.


Be careful.  Having a baby to stroke a man's ego can get very messy very fast.  Its a huge responsibility and too often the mother does all the work and the father takes all the credit.  Take the worst case scenarios into consideration before you decide.


So who gets to decide what is illegal and what is not? You? sm
That's a slippery slope. Like the poster below who wants sugar taxes - actually that's not a bad idea since sugary drinks and snacks are making our kids fat. Let's see - then we should tax fast food or control the amount that fatties can eat, right?

Where does it end?
Getting the stick and then you said
beating with a stick. I would think you are probably overstepping your boundaries. He could change his mind between today and tonight and this "beating" or "getting" the stick might not materalize. Have you actually seen any signs, etc. of abuse?
Still trying to decide whether to have a hysterectomy. See message
I posted last week about my dilema about whether to have a hysterectomy or not after my left ovarian cyst (which was removed along with ovary) came back with a pathology report stating papillary serous tumor, borderline. Doctor says I should have hysterectomy for "insurance" and preventative measures. However, according to their group discussion, my tumor was borderline, but "more on the benign side". I am so confused. I'm 42 and I don't want to have a hysterectomy, but yet, I don't want to have a problem with cancer either. I have the option to follow every six months. Is this safe? Am I better off getting a hysterectomy? I just don't know what to do!!!!
So even animals help decide our fate???
Where did you read this or learn about this? I've never heard that animals will speak for or against us on judgement day...interesting.  Guess I'm in the clear, I don't do animals, don't own them, don't abuse them, don't like 'em!
Be careful if you decide to wean
and hand feed with formula and syringe.  Don't know about your type of birds, but I have a parrot that I hand fed with a syringe and the breeders instructed me and watched me do it myself to be sure I was doing it correctly before they let me take him home.  Apparently you can kill them if it goes down the wrong way, but it was really easy feeding him.  Maybe there's somebody in your area who is a bird expert you could talk to?
I re-read, so you do live together - you have to decide if he is (sm)

going to function as a dad or not, and if so, you need to BOTH be involved in decisions, not just him.  If he is not going to function as dad, he should not be involved in conferences at all.


Mercy is for God to decide - she should rot where she lays
I posted below - but have more to say. She needs to rot where she lies. That may sound harsh but I have no compassion for her and anyone else involved in those horrendous crimes they committed. "Charles Mansion brainwashed me" or whatever it is she claims. Oh brother - let me get my violin out. She knew what she was doing. You would think at some point while she is in the act of doing the horrendous things she did she would think somewhere in her pea brain - wait a minute, this is not right, and she could have easily sneaked out or called the police or something. I lived across the whole country (east coast) and still felt the horror that happened to them. It was hard growing up knowing that those pieces of garbage were out there and it could have happened to any of us just as easily. They just happened upon that house. I had nightmares because of it. Between that and the Hillside strangler and all the other creeps out there, it was hard not to have nightmares. She committed the crimes and she needs to do her time. She had no mercy for Sharon Tate and her unborn child and she so much as said so. Why she would think the court should have mercy on her. Brain tumor? Good and I hope its a very painful death for her. I always say do unto others. If she committed torture, then she should be tortured. The only one she should be asked Mercy for is from God. Maybe she should contact Roman Polanski and ask him if he thinks she should be let out early. "I would like to be out one day" Give me a break! I'm sure Sharon Tate and the other people would have liked to live. They should tell her and her family that they have no right in asking to be let out. I don't care if she can't sit up in bed. That is her problem. In fact I think they should post all the crime scene photos in her cell and let her look at those day after day and say until she dies and tell her this is why you are not being let out. Besides, if she has brain cancer who knows what she will be thinking as it progresses. Well I'm glad she's "not the same person than when she went in". But then again that's what all the prisoners say too. She did the crime - do the time (and I hope she suffers. I have no tolerance for what she did).
Is that good? I can't decide whether this would be tasty or not? nm
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Well in my mind lust is when you decide

to give in to something and enjoy it, which I have not and will not do in this case. 


The puzzlement for me is how the attraction comes out of nowhere like that, and of course this time when it happened it is more troubling because he is so young.  It must be pheromones.  I think that's the best explanation.


 


Yep, some oldies decide on invitro
to have kids but I don’t want to have a kid in college just when I would like to retire. I see advanced maternal age listed all the time when the mother is only 34 or so, so wonder what category 41 falls under. Too many birth defects possible as the mother ages. Others can have their kids if they want at past 50, just not my cup of tea.
OK. I have to stick up for Wal Mart and here is why: sm
Wal Mart is NO different than any other department store or retail store on the market today. Why do people think that you CAN raise a family while working as a cashier at Wal Mart? Or a greeter? You can't. Just as you couldn't if you were a cashier at your local grocers. These people are there to ring up our products, take our money, etc, just like any other cashier's job. You can't raise a family on a salary like that ANYWHERE so why is everyone blaming Wal Mart for low wages? The last I looked our local grocer was hiring for 7.00 an hour and that is 1.50 less than what our local Wal Mart pays.

Second. Health insurance. A company that is privately owned DOES NOT have to offer insurance for it's employees. Hence, again, go look for a company that does offer it if you need it. Don't blame Wal Mart. The employee has choices. They can work somewhere else. It is expensive!! If they offered its employees ALL of these benefits people keep crying about then guess what? They wouldn't be Wal-Mart anymore. They would be called Wal-Mall because that's what would happen to their prices. They would go WAY up! And then I wouldn't be able to get a loaf of bread for 87 cents. You get the picture. Wal-Mart does a lot of families very GOOD. They dont' have unions because unions cost a TON of money. Once again, they would have to raise prices enormously if they were to form a union. I don't want that. I don't need a Wal-Mall, I need a Wal-Mart.

So, to drive my point in further, let me sum it all up for you: 1. You aren't supposed to earn a living working at Wal-Mart. If you have to raise a family, get an education or a better paying job and don't blame Wal Mart for paying wages that your local grocer or department store pays just because you think "they can afford it." 2. If Wal Mart starts offering insurance to all employees, form unions, etc., then Wal-Mart would be just like our competitor here in town, Publix, who drive up prices 40 to 50% so that they CAN pay their employees health insurance, etc., which is fine - that is their business. But I am smart. And given the choice of paying 2.50 for a loaf of bread or 87 cents, I think the latter is a much better choice for me and my family.

If your convictions stop you, then don't shop there. But Wal Mart is just too good a thing to pass up for millions of families.

I will say this in contrast, though. I don't always go to Wal Mart because I hate crowds. I do occasionally shop at our local Publix as I find them friendlier and more convenient. But, I always spend a lot of money and don't get nearly as much for my money except maybe peace of mind.

I agree! I'd rather stick with...
Weight Watchers and exercise. 
The key is to find something you can stick with....

....for the rest of your life.  I think lasting weight loss is about making lifestyle changes you can easily incorporate into your life and live with for the the long haul, including healthy food choices and exercising.  I am not familiar with Calorie King or Kimkins, so I can't say what kind of programs they are, but fads are not the way to go, IMO. 


Good luck to you, though.  Losing weight is a big committment and really not a lot of fun.  I've been on Weight Watchers and have lost 11 pounds so far.  It's taken awhile, but I didn't gain all the weight overnight, either.  Slow and steady.


Stick and stone...seriously! sm
My dad worked with a guy who named his boys stick and stone. Didn't believe him until one day I was working at a shoestore and was fitting some kids for their shoes and mom said, "stick and stone, get over here and sit down!" I about died! I had to run to the back room real quick to hide my laughter.
Sorry but what is stick? I do like how modulars look - don't know anything about them though (nm)
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Stick Vs. Modular
I think stick means a house built completely on-site with 2x4 lumber from the ground up.  A modular is a house built in sections in a building somewhere else and then the sections are moved to your site and put together there.  All the modulars I have been inside seem to develops cracks in the walls and ceilings as the house settles over time.  Just my opinion but I think stick will give better quality overall, thought probably cost more.  But I have seen extremely nice modulars when they are new.
Okay, don't want to be a stick in the sand
We lived near the beach for many years and saw this one time too many. So, instead of being afraid of the ocean be more afraid of the sand. Please don't let your sons dig holes in the sand, at least not deep ones. We have seen children and teenagers have serious accidents or worse with this. The sand collapses into the holes and consequences can be fatal, so just heads up on that. It was also just on the news so I hope a lot of parents watched it. What seems like fun can turn quickly into a serious situation. It was just a known fact in our home..... no deep holes at the beach.

Sorry to be a downer....just want to make sure the boys AND parents enjoy themselves. Do have a good time though!!!
Sounds like you are trying to stick to
something similar to the SouthBeach diet. Pistachios are a good snack but carrotts are full of sugar and supposed to be a no-no. Not flaming you, in my opinion carotts are certainly better than say doughnuts or chips.
funny thing about when you decide to give up...

on men/relationships...That is when the right one comes along! That's how it happened for me. I, like you, had decided I was done with men, too many bad experiences, and then I met THE right guy for me.  That was almost 11 years ago and we have been married for 7-1/2 years. We have a happy marriage and a beautiful little 15-month-old girl. It's when you stop looking that the right one comes along!


The most important thing, though, is to trust your instincts. They will never steer you wrong. From your description, it sounds like a good thing, but if there is a doubt that nags at you, don't dismiss it. Just don't let prior bad relationships cloud your judgment, because they are all different.


when u decide on a city, suggest contacting....

I'd call the Chamber(s) of Commerce of whatever city you decide to stay in and ask them the condition(s) of the area(s)  post-Katrina.....just my opinion.


Have fun on vacation!!!  :)


I just don't see why any parent would just allow a child decide to move out
It makes no sense to me. He is 16 years old and still a child. I guess I just don't understand how you have no problem with him deciding to move out and not even try to do anything about it other than take his house key. It sounds as though this 16-year old is running the show here. The whole thing is very disturbing to me.