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Your tax dollars already go to the local shelter/animal control...sm

Posted By: GLF on 2007-02-23
In Reply to: Where do you think those funds come from? You, me, etc. - Sorry, but I don't want to pay for your pet'

Police Dept., or whoever handles animals in your community.  I hate to break it to you, but you're *already* paying for it.  So why not have your tax dollars spent on spay/neuter, education, and training programs thru the shelter *instead* of having to be spent (as they currently are) on housing, feeding, and ultimately euthanizing so many animals?  Because a TON of $$$ is spent on that now.  Look it up for your community.  You'll probably be shocked at the costs. 


Honestly, looking at it strictly from the financial aspect of it, it would cost *less* to do more spay/neuter and education.  We have it completely backwards.  Makes no sense. 


That being said, many communities do have organizations that offer low cost spay/neuter for seniors and low income families.  And many shelters are starting to get things going in a more postive direction.  More power to them.  Now if we could only get the pet stores/puppy mills and backyard breeders under control... *sigh*


 




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One time I went to my local animal shelter
and was thinking about getting a second dog. I already have a German Shepherd, and thought that she may like a playmate. My husband and I saw the cutest golden retriever/yellow lab mix puppy, and they wouldn't even let us in the kennel to see the dog without filling out a bunch of paperwork. We told them that we probably weren't even going to adopt that day, but we still would have had to fill out all of the paperwork just to go in and meet the dog. I think it's great that they care so much about making sure these animals go to good homes, but sometimes they make the process almost impossible, making less people want to go through the process and actually adopt. I think that personal references and even meeting with you in your home are great, but a home inspection? That's a bit extreme. It's not like you adopting a human child here.
Also try local no-kill animal shelter

My sister's first dog was an AKC standard American Eskimo she got from a no-kill shelter.  He was supposed to be a show dog, but wasn't *perfect*, so his original owner considered him a worthless mouth to feed and left him at the shelter.  For my sister's family, he was a beautiful and loving pet for many years.  You will pay for the necessary shots and probably to have your pet *fixed* as well as perhaps a bit of a mark-up to support the shelter, but you will have a healthy pet, and you will get the one you see.


My sister's current dog is an AKC Pomeranian she got from a Pomeranian rescue organization.  Again, she got a beautiful and loving dog.  His original owner had decided that he was just too much trouble.  If I remember correctly, the rescue service had pictures of available pets on their Internet website.  Again, there was a good-sized fee to cover having him checked out by a vet and *fixed* with again probably a bit of a mark-up to support the organization.  She had to drive a ways downstate to get him - they would not just ship him.


My sister considered the fees reasonable.  As she says, it's a reminder that this is a living creature whose life has value, not a toy to be played with for awhile and then discarded.  I hope you will be as fortunate as my sister has been in whatever way you find your pet.


Call your local county extension office or animal control to see if
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She got her at the Animal Shelter in Lancaster, PA SM
She is the most darling cat and so very beautiful!  She looks sooo much like the picture! Nina is very elegant. She is adored and lives in a lovely condo in Lancaster with my niece and her very number one fan, Nicole, my niece's 10-year-old daughter!  They have since gone back to the shelter about a year ago and adopted a male cat, Reuben. He is a pretty beige/rust color, has outgrown Nina by a mile and is just an absolute love!!  He refuses to drink out of his bowl, and when his aunt (me) babysat them this summer I spoiled them just a tad. Now my niece has to turn on the water in the kitchen sick for the kids to drink!!  LOL  
Definitely call Animal Shelter or Humane Society
Ours runs a once a month clinic where they will give rabies shots and spay or neuter for only $20.00.  Tell them she's a stray, hopefully they can help you.  LOL, she has chosen you and your family.  She brought her babies in the house cause she feels they'll be safe there.  Congratulations on being adopted! 
Contact your local battered women's shelter

Go out of the house to do it, call from a pay phone, not your cell phone or anywhere that it would leave a trace. They will be able to help you get out of there safely. It is dangerous to try to do this on your own, especially if your husband will come looking for you. You need the help of people who are experienced with this kind of situation and can offer you a safe haven while you are figuring out your next move.


Call them TODAY. Don't wait any longer. Just tell your husband you need to go to the grocery store (and be sure you come home with some groceries). Call them from a pay phone. If you don't know the name of your local battered women's shelter, call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) and they can guide you. There is a link below to the National Domestic Violence Hotline.


Good luck. Please keep us updated on your situation.


No animal control

There is no animal control in many rural areas. 


Don't know if Animal Control will be much help

At least, not if they're like the ones around here. I have called them a couple of times for large dogs roaming loose in the neighborhood and they said they would drive by when they got a chance but if the dogs weren't there at the time there was nothing they could do. Even when I told them, they're here right now and will probably be here a while, I never saw the Animal Control vehicle come by either time.


This is a different situation, of course, but if the dog is receiving food and water I really don't think Animal Control would do much.


I understand that you do not want to bring an animal into your home that would make your cat uncomfortable. If you can keep the dog company in his yard or bring him into your yard (as suggested below) that might be a good alternative.


Maybe you could keep an eye out and try to find out who is feeding the dog and talk to them about some kind of alternative, or at least find out when the owners will be back.


I can't believe people treat their pets this way, just to save a few dollars. For a dog as small as a Sheltie, boarding isn't all that expensive. I did a quick on-line check since it's been a while since we boarded our Pom, and most places listed $12/night for small dogs.  A small price to pay, in my opinion. 


 


I got my dog from Animal Control.
There was an "application" but it was mostly common sense stuff. Good luck!
Animal Control
I'm sure the responses vary depending on where you live, what the situation, and who you talk to but for those who have had no help from Animal Control - there might be hope. A farm in my area was obviously mistreating their cows, standing in water for days and weeks with nothing to graze on but plenty of land to move them too. Just a lazy farmer I think, the whole place was a mess. I called Animal Control, the Sherrif's Dept, and the Humane Society every week (atleast once a week) for over a month. Every time I had to leave a message and soon was immediately transferred to a voicemail. I am happy to say I was persistent and eventually the problem was solved. I can only assume they got tired of hearing from me. I haven't seen a problem over there since and its been a couple of years.
Animal Control
Like the other poster said, if you click "post a reply to this message" they are right under the box that you type your message in. Anyways, I forgot to tell you, you don't have to call Animal Control just if they are mean to the dog.  You can also call them about the barking, and I believe they will give them a warning and then I think a fine if they do nothing.  Also, I don't know where you are located, but usually you can call the city and they will usually warn them. As much as it sucks, I figure I am just "doing my time" here, where I live, waiting to get away from these idiots I call neighbors! They obviously don't care, have talked to them, so I don't want to make matters worse, because, unfortunately, I have to be here at least 4 more years!
Animal control adoption

Oie.  We adopted a very sweet what we think is a lab/retriever approximately 3 years old from Animal control on Thursday.  I think she's way older than 3 and not healthy.  I finally got a good look in her mouth today and her teeth are a mess.  She hasn't eaten more than a handful of food since we got here and I couldn't figure out what the problem was.  I don't think she can eat solid food comfortably.  Also, she was coughing Thursday night.  Friday morning I made an appointment for the vet because I think she either has Kennel cough or pneumonia.  She is coughing until she throws up now and has done so more times than I can count. It is just huge globs of mucous.  She also has a nice itch issue going on.  I called Animal control and they say she wasn't coughing/puking/itching when they had her.  Maybe she's allergic to us. Has anyone had a dog with kennel cough?  Any ideas on making her more comfortable until her vet visit on Monday?  We are going to keep her and make her as healthy and happy as we can but I'm really annoyed that Animal Control didn't notice anything going on with her, especially her poor teeth.


Thanks for letting me vent.  I'm off to clean up the floor, again.  


According the animal control worker..
We have one of the animal control worker's living across the street from us and she asked my son how Lily was doing tonight. He told her that she was coughing and she said that the dogs at Animal control all have kennel cough right now and to bring her out tomorrow for some medicine. I'm still just going to bring her to the vet because of her itching and all the mucous. I think I'll just go over to her house if I have any more questions about Lily.

Lily is probably stressed with all her new changes, but other than throwing up, itching and coughing, she seems to feel right at home. We bought her a big cushion for a bed and when I put the boys to bed at night, she goes to bed in her bed too. Anyhoo...thanks again for the support. I'll update after the vet tomorrow.
Report this to animal control!
You need to file a report of both killings to the animal control officer.  My neighbor had 2 Akitas (aggressive like chows) who attacked and killed my cat.  Unfortunately my cat for some unknown mind boggling reason jumped over her fence into her fenced-in yard, BUT . . . these 2 dogs had also gotten loose a couple of times and attacked a woman getting her mail from her mailbox!  Vicious dogs are vicious dogs and this needs to be documented by you.  I feel so bad for your cats, but please don't let it happen to any other poor animals! 
You should contact animal control
Leaving a dog tied up like that and barking incessantly is abuse for one thing. Surely there is some kind of animal control or even the police you could report to?
Couldn't you have just called animal control?
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Time to report the owner to Animal Control if you have a
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Call Animal Control in stead of the police. Maybe they'll take the dog
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Sure. And don't use MY tax dollars...sm
To fund the worthless "abstinance-only" sex-ed programs that don't work. How many millions (or is it billions?) of our tax $$$ have been wasted on that in recent years by our genius of a president and his ilk?

Instead, give kids some actual useful information so they don't get STDs and don't get pregnant in the first place.

But no, the religious fanatics (don't necessarily mean you, just talking here) don't want anyone telling kids about birth control either. (Gasp! It might give them ideas! - As if they never thought about it before that - LMAO).

I honestly think they don't want anyone, ever to have sex unless they're married and are trying to conceive. Yeah. That's reasonable (not). Course I don't think anyone's ever accused the religious right of being reasonable...
Also, don't use my tax dollars
for the abstinence-only programs, as they obviously do not work that's for sure. I also think all of these religion fanatics/pro-lifers who insist on women having babies that they can't pay for should have to pay all the welfare bills and all the low/no income health programs, etc. that these kids use because I'm certainly sick of paying for other people's kids!

Your certainly right about the religious people who don't think anyone should have sex before they are married. Not only that, but once they do get married and finally are allowed to have sex, they better not enjoy it either, LOL. Sex is only for procreation...not for something evil like pleasure. =)
Your tax dollars
The schools wouldn't have to teach about sex if the parents did it - 99% of the parents will NOT discuss sex with their kids. Apparently, it is "too close to home." If you educated your kids about this, great.

I want my tax dollars to be used to educate kids about sex - the more information they have, the less likely they are to get into premature sexual activity. Do you know what most teenagers who come to Planned parenthood for birth control have already been sexually active for at least a year? That is a fact, and it should scar all of us that our kids are so casual about their own sexual health.

Also, as far as Clinton goes, exactly what felony perjury did he commit? None that I'm aware of. However, the present president has committed multiple felonies since taking ofice - most notably putting thousands of US military personnel in harm's way in a useless, senseless war that only made the rest of the world despise us even more than it did before. IMO, Bush is responsible for every US solider killed or maimed in that war. I've been against it from the beginning - not one of the Janes-come-lately who are now hopping on the anti-war bandwagon.
here is 5 dollars! have one on me!!
pay to the order of Mr B. Tender, 4/17/2008

five and no/100-dollars $5.00

MTCheers

I don't want my tax dollars doing that....
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Then learn how to use my tax dollars to the best advantage
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I am rich in compassion but poor in dollars and am
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The Mega Lotto is $216 Million Dollars
 if you won that much money?
he is feeling out of control and he wants control
and from what you wrote, you aren't giving him opportunities to have some control.

My 4 yo has had this type of behavior since the age of 2-1/2, but I've figured out how to deal with it. First of all, he wants your attention, good, bad, indifferent and wants some say so in what happens to him.

I've done several things. With the screaming, I totally ignore her. I tell her my ears are closed and I can't hear her, but if she wants to cry/scream, she can't do it in MY living room (bedroom, whatever), only in HER bedroom. If she refuses to stay in her room, I take away her favorite snuggly and put it on the top of something, out of reach but visible. She can have it back when she stays in her room and stops being loud. If she keeps coming out, I put another coveted stuff up out of reach, over and over until she realizes I mean she has to stay in her room. I don't tell her she has to stop her fit or crying...she just can't do it in MY space. She can come back to where I am if she is quiet.

I make sure she knows I am in control, but we negotiate almost everything. If I want her to drink milk for breakfast and she wants juice, I tell her okay but she has to drink the milk at lunch. That gives her a sense of control and having a say in what is happening to her.

I have also had to sit on her bed for HOURS, holding her by wrapping my arms around her while she screams and kicks and bites until she begs to be let go. I won't let go until the out of control stuff stops. I don't talk except to say "I'll let you go when you are quiet." It is exhausting, but it only took a few times for her to understand I would invest the time and she hated being held like that for so long.

When I work at home, I make sure I take a break about every 90 mins and spend about 30 mins with her. It takes me all day to get my work done, but it makes all the difference in the world.

If she won't pick up something (say, blocks) after being asked upteen times, I tell her I will give them away to a child who wants to take care of them. It only took losing one set of blocks for her to get the idea she HAS to clean up her messes.

Finally, after being potty trained for at least a month and then rebelling and making messes in her pants for a week in a row (this happened 3 times), I finally told her in a very loud voice that _I_ had control over whether or not she went trick or treating and whether or not Santa comes to our house. If she wanted to have those things, she better use the potty and no more messes. She has been dry since the beginning of October and I give her a treat every day she stays dry.

One day a couple of weeks ago, she wanted to go to Mickie Dee's, but as we drove up she started shouting about wanting to go inside. I wanted to drive through. We were in the drive through line and I calmly told her sometimes people get mad and yell at someone else, but maybe it was an accident...I asked if she wanted to tell me sorry for yelling at me or did she want to go home. She shook her head "no" to apologizing. I repeated my offer and again got "no." I drove off towards home which immediately threw her into tears and whining, but now she doesn't yell at me anymore if she wants something.

Since October we have far fewer melt downs and I have realized she actually shows me her triggers...If she is angry and grumpy on the way home from somewhere, I hand her an energy bar to munch and suddenly I have a sunshine child again. If she gets grumpy in the middle of the day and refuses to take a nap, I tell her we will lie down on my bed. We start out talking and before too long, I tell her I am tired and want to close my eyes, but not go to sleep. Pretty soon, she will close her eyes and fall asleep. I can then get back up and go about my business.

Before somebody starts bashing me, I have a close friend who is a child psychologist and she helped me with all these suggestions. It takes a lot of work to maintain the appearance of control while giving the child the opportunity of having some say so in his/her life.
Half dollars? And that's supposed to be attractive???? HAHAHA! Not.
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Try the shelter because they usually know
about low rates for getting them fixed. Some do very low cost according to your income. Pretty kitty....
There is one shelter here
that will not allow the pits to be adopted, others might be similar but 1 only lets rescues get them so the shelter not responsible. I just wish I had 24/7 to work exclusively for the animals. They are just my heart. The group I am with has taken cats/kitties, paid for spaying or neutering, vetting and then no charge just to get them forever homes. This is the real joy in my life. I wish we could do runs and take animals to other parts of the country where there is a lack of them. So many, so little time.
Shelter cats
I totally understand that you are making the best decision for yourself, but I have to say I don't understand a Shelter saying your home is not good for a cat, how about a 8-10 year old cat, that's not very old, and to save a life they can learn to live harmonously with yappy dogs. JMO. I hope in the future you might feel comfortable to get one, they are a joy when you have one that wants to be with you.
shelter mutt,
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Aww! That is great that you got shelter..sm
dogs. They need homes too. I guess we should all do that too. :)
yes, they are a no-kill shelter - at least they said so! nm
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Oh I am so glad to hear there is a shelter...sm
that does give pits a chance. I love em. I love all dogs.
There are probably waiting lists for little dogs at the shelter and/or
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this is a great post; I have shelter pets.
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Call womans shelter/police and ask them where to
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Shelter said home situation not proper for older cat.

We really wanted to give an older one a home too, because our little local shelter here is PACKED with cats and the poor things only have a 'shelf life' of 7 days before they are euthanized.  We have 3 small yappy dogs and they just didn't have any older cats that they would be comfortable placing with us, and I can COMPLETELY understand that.  It's just so sad to see these cats in cages looking so sad and deserve so much better than whatever life's circumstances caused them to be brought there.  The volunteers told us more and more people are surrending their cats because they have to choose between cat food and fuel.  I'm sorry, but you can feed a cat (healthy ones anyway) the cheapest of cheap dry food, I mean, if that's what it takes to get by.  I couldn't imagine just dumping my cat off at a shelter, where you know they will be put to death...I would walk the streets and collect cans first. 


Sorry for the rant.  Just so sad to think that people just throw their pets away like this...or worse and leave them outside to fend for themselves. 


So no, no cats in the near future for me I'm afraid. 


see website inside, click purple tab daily to support shelter pets
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/home.faces?siteId=3
You have control (SM)
If you demonstrate to your husband that you do indeed have control not to eat that junk, you may get it in his head that you are serious about losing weight. He is sabotoging you, even if he does not intend to do so.

I've lost 123 pounds the hard way and kept them all off. If you can't afford a program that isn't really necessary, get your measuring cups out and measure each serving you eat, add up the calories, and figure out how many calories you need from a Google search to lose weight.

Trust me; you'll feel like crap afterwards if you eat that stuff. You will feel like you had a victory if you leave it alone. You will feel strong. Don't deny yourself that feeling.

I see you posted 2 days ago. I hope you didn't eat that junk.
No, they are definitely not out of control (sm)
Believe me, they are good kids. Like I said, they have never gotten in trouble at school and they are respectful. They were just trying to play with her like they do with me. My mother told me about demons all my life growing up too - and guess how many times I woke her up with night terrors? I'll call you to come sit up with my kids when they are scared demons are going to come and get them.
Did he do something really bad that he needs this much control? nm
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It has gotten out of control
I see parents who have nothing and cannot pay their bills getting their kids the Xbox 360s and Wii systems. How do they do this? My 18-year-old wanted one and I just couldn't do it. I had to limit myself to about $200 per kid this year.

My kids never had video games until they were well into their teens. They got books and educational computer games. Toys that kept their imaginations active like Legos. Do kids even play with toys anymore?
What has gotten out of control is all the ....sm
charities people are allowed to sign up for. I am all for giving to the needy and support things like Toys for Tots. Dr. Phil and Robin even came to my hometown to help kick off the campaign in our area. My SIL is a teacher at a school where this is quite a bit of poverty and she says kids will come to school and tell about all they got. She says some of these kids have better Christmases then her own children. Once again I don't begrude giving, but signing up with 10 different charities seems a bit much. Also, she has students where the entire family will sign up to "Shop with a cop" and only one of the children will qualify. I don't understand that either.
Only control myself, no one else so where that comes from?
Children grown, not trying to control in any kind of way. I just take care of my homee front, nothing more. More assuming. People think what they want so not trying to change others feelings.
no flea control
vet says we dont have fleas in our area. 
she was in control of that relationship
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control freaks to the nth........

modus operandi.........they have this NEED to control.....I'm so over these types.....but they are EVERYWHERE - I see it all the time - and then I congratulate myself for being my own hero, finding my own strengths, getting out while the getting was good and never looking back.....been there, done it, will NEVAH do it again.......it just isn't worth it to me.  I'd rather be alone than with a control freak or a passive-aggressive. 


Ahhhhhhhhhhh tis NOW a GREAT life....and for 18 years!!!  I wouldn't compromise it EVER again.....


Best of luck to all and especially to those in sticky situations!!! I SO know it's SO not easy.....



I have no cookie self-control!
I used to bake piles and piles of cookies, gave lots away, too, but far too many went right into ME. One Christmas, I gained 10 pounds before the New Year! TEN POUNDS! Added to the other 50 I had gained over the years, and I was just disgusted. I tried not to eat the things, but I could not stop. So now, for the sake of my health, I don't bake cookies unless I'm headed out that same day to someone's house. I make my DH stand over me as the cookies come out of the oven, pack them up and put them into the car.

It sounds ridiculous, but I really can't stop myself!
Well, he sounds like a control
freak for one thing. One of the key indicators for couples who get divorced is how they talk to each other.

For your cold or flu, you might try zinc tablets. If your nose is runny you could use Zicam - the nasal swabs are great because you won't be tempted to snort the gel too high, where it can cause problems. Follow the directions about pinching your nose for a minute. If your throat is sore, chicken soup or broth should help. Maybe soak in a warm tub.

And let grumpy husband clean up his own messes.

You definitely need marriage counseling, because he needs to learn to treat you with loving kindness and respect.