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anyone have an aging dog on meds for arthritis pain??? sm

Posted By: bassett momma on 2009-06-22
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my bassett is 13 years old and has arthritis in her hips and probably other joints.  the vet put her on Carprofen and the first few days she did great!  then she started having diarrhea and acting like she's hurting again (shaking, panting, a little whining).  I told vet, she said to stop meds until she is over her "sour belly".  she tested her diarrhea and it was fine, no blood or parasites.  she went without her medicine for a day and a half and it showed, as she couldn't walk as well (which before she went on this medicine she couldn't use her back legs).  so i started giving her medicine again.  vet said the carprofen was going to be temporary.  i was reading some bad side effects for this medicine.  i think this medicine is making her have the diarrhea.  she's only been on the medicine for about a week and a half at the most. 


just wondered if anyone else had pets with arthritis problems and what you used to help.  i'm not sure if i should try something alternative.  or maybe even Dr. Frank's spray. 


thanks




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I asked for birth control about a year ago and chose "the patch". My insurance company didn't cover that, so I decided to go with Depo Provera. Guess what... they didn't pay for that either.... LOL
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Did you know that vaginal yeast meds
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My oldest child does as well.

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disorganized person who finds it hard to concentrate. It's called stress. I think too many people are running to the doc for a cure all/fix all, when all they really need is peace of mind and a less hectic schedule. It can be done. As far as the disorganization, start one room at a time. One closet. One cupboard, etc. I had to do this. I was told I was "crazy," which is worse than someone saying ADD. I don't think I'm crazy.

Prayer and church is the one thing that helped me tremendously having never been to church growing up. I'm not throwing religion in your face, but something has to be said about these miraculous changes I've been through since "finding God." He's helped me in every single area of my life including the "craziness, disorganization, beating myself up for wandering when I should be working."

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I was diagnosed with GAD in 2005. I think everybody's different as far as meds go. SM

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Um, YES and YES?! Haha. Also some of those meds have been found sm
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While you wait, not wanting to give meds, he is
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I know, I also feel so sorry for the nurse who administered the meds (nm)
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My son had 3-month psychotic episode from meds sm

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kids, meds, side effects
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you have a valid point here, one has always to consider side effects of meds..nm
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