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AAMT paid trips

Posted By: anon on 2005-10-26
In Reply to: It is just like a sorority - Sad but true!

You are right about the paid trips.  They changed the rules in a particular chapter about how long you can be President from 1 yr to 2 yr.  They did this 1 year before the Hawaii trip.  The President at the time, and the President-Elect worked it out that way so the President Elect would be able to go on this trip because you know the chapter pays for the President to go.  Now, after that is all over, she has decided she doesn't want to be President anymore........ (her 2 years is not up).    WHAT A CROCK........ IT IS THE OLD GIRLS SCHOOL......-

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If you search the posts, I think the Company board, you will find that the monies paid to AAMT

for CMT/RMT cerifications are being used to offer "India" rates to workers in India to test for their CMT/RMT cerifications. I REFUSE TO BELONG TO SAID ORGANIZATION AND I WILL NOT CONTRIBUTE MY HARD-EARNED FUNDS TO HELPING INDIANS GET CREDENTIALED.

Do you also "road hyponsis" when driving on long trips?
I do and have to take a prescribed stimulant when I drive for long periods. It also affected my work just like you are experiencing.    It's a mild or moderate form of narcolepsy.  I also have a hard time staying awake watching a movie or reading a book.  In my family history, I had a brother who would fall asleep in the bathtub, and also a first cousin who had epilepsy.   So, there may be some connection, I don't know...just my uneducated opinion.  It's not boredom because if it were just boredom, I can think of many other "boring" circumstances I would fall asleep during.  I think it's more to do with repetition and maybe an eye:brain condition.  I too have many times caught myself falling out of the chair when transcribing.  Some days it was so bad I had to take a stimulant to get through my shift, but I do not recommend that.
don't do annual but do big trips every few years. Last year went to Africa including safari
spent 18 days - one day traveling there, (stopping in for a day in London), then two weeks working at an orphanage and girls vocational school, safari on the weekend, then two days of travel back. Whew!
For QA consulting I'm paid per hour; QA instructing (college) paid salary, QA editing paid per li
I am an IC and work for two different MTSOs as well as instruct at a business college.
if mt paid 9, editor paid 4 or 5...how can company charge 14 and make it..sm

I know the going rate in our area is 14 cents per line.  As MTs most companies here pay us 8 or 9 cents a line.  Now add in the Editor rate at 4 or 5 per line..you are paying OUT more than you can charge a line.  How would companies stay in biz?

Unless all work is sent by the company overseas at pennies per line, this would not pay for a company.

just curious how this works out

But how much are the US EDs gonna be paid? Typically this work is paid at 2-3 cpl. nm
You don't get paid an hourly rate you get paid by line - sm
so because of how you are paid (not an hourly rate) you don't get OT, especially if you are an IC.
I would move on. I think it is so unfair not to be paid for spaces! I think we should get paid

per keystroke, but that'll never happen.  I just think that these national companies are going to keep finding ways to cheat us.  I found a job working for a hospital as an employee, paid hourly plus incentive, and they let us expand everything!  Somebody's gonna have to kill me to make me give up this job.  I will never go back to the national's again.

I feel for you though.  I know that for us MTs those good jobs are few and far between and some have little choice but to work for the nationals.  I just happened to luck into the job I have now.  I just applied at the right time. 

Good luck to you whatever you decide.

If those companies paid a fair wage, and paid more
all came out equal, people wouldn't feel the need to try to make up the deficit by going for the good stuff. I actually prefer the harder, juicier reports. But I can't make a living doing only that, because the pay is not commensurate with the difficulty. So even though I prefer not to, sometimes I have to pick up some of the easier, more boring 'line-o-matic' reports just to make ends meet. Tell your MTSO to make it work their while, and MTs will stop taking all the easy work away that you obviously would prefer to keep for yourself.
You wont show UE being paid because it is employer paid -
the employee will never have to pay this.
Oh, someone benefits from AAMT - AAMT DOES!
What you "should" be paid and what you "are" paid

sadly are two very different things.  Good luck on demanding more..because someone else will just come along and take it for what they offer and they know it. 

10$ late if invoice is not paid within 10 days. At day 15 work stops until invoice is paid. Hardly
Well hey, spelling a lot as one word is commonplace too; does that make it okay?? Do they really think MDs keep up with all the illogical changes they come up with? Do they realize that MDs actually take the time to edit stuff they don't recognize to be correct? What good is it if it actually causes MDs to stop and edit??

It's just too bad that AAMT has not taken an assertive stand for the American MT and keeping confidential patient records in this country. For such a long time medical record administrators have fought the concerns of medical transcriptionists since the 60's. There was always a divisive agenda from medical record librarians (as they were called then) toward the transcriptionist. They didn't want to see the Transcriptionist come to the forefront of the medical records industry, nor did they like the income transcriptionists made(then) -WHAT? a transcriptionist make more money than a medical records librarian? I still see it now - you see AHIMA's hand down the back zipper of AAMT puppeting what direction they want AAMT to go - minimize the importance of the professional medical transcriptionist and rushing to automate the medical record with ASR and EMR. Ask youself this question - how many of you believe that many of the "QA" people at the nationals are discarded or displaced medical record technicians or the like? Many of the medical record administrators lost their jobs about 10 years ago during hefty layoffs when hospitals began a surge of outsourcing and many of these people had to seek jobs in the transcription industry for national companies as sales people, administrators, and QA people. I can't begin to tell you how many RHIT people haven't a clue about medical transcription. I've worked with so many who got a lot of things wrong legally but hey, because they were above the transcription department, they were right. Don't question them.
Have to afford those trips to Hawaii somehow.
I know.  It is so strange.  I was just on the AAMT forum.  I know if I start making "waves" I'll be considered a troublemaker.   It is really said what is happening in that organization when it could provide such a boost.
That is how I have been feeling.  A friend of mine says I need to run, but I'm afraid of how it would be handled. -
Thanks so much.  You are right.  I will contact this gentleman.
well, according to the AAMT BOS...sm
"Always place periods inside quotation marks."  <<< see, like I did!
Ah, yes. The AAMT.
Medware offshores. They don't pay well, either. I see by your other post that you won't work for acusisindia, what's the difference? Offshoring is offshoring.

AAMT = Against American Medical Transcriptionists
I don't think you read my message clearly.  There are many options to AAMT, not just one.  AAMT is pushing for licensure as it is.  That will do just as much harm as anything else in the end.
AAMT is nothing but a poor parody of a high school sorority. It touts itself as being a professional organization. It is neither professional nor organized and needs to go the way ot the dinosaur and die.
What I blame AAMT for is for touting themselves as a "professional organization" when they are neither professional nor organized.
I hear the rules are always changing in the AAMT/BOS.

And you have to admit, it doesn't really matter what the AAMT/BOS says, it's what the doctor prefers, right or wrong.
According to AAMT BOS, you do put
an apostrophe to form the plural of single letters and symbols. The values will vary from patient to patient.
AAMT is totally useless; everyone knows that. They're a bunch of aging prima donnas. You would do better to invest your money in a good basic grammar book than anything AAMT has to offer.
Where is AAMT
They're too busy deciding who is white enough and straight enough to belong to give attention to relevant issues. I abandoned them in the 90s when I saw first-hand what their agenda was. It isn't to help the average Joe or Jane Transcriptionist, believe me.
AAMT is a dinosaur.
Yes, and dangerous abbreviations list instructs cc should be replaced with mL as well. I agree a lot of it is silly, but there is some useful information. Some doctors appreciate it, other doctors want verbatim always and don't care for it.
I will conveniently stay anonymous, but I completely agree with you. I cannot afford the membership dues. My former employer is sponsoring a discounted membership with AAMT for MTs who want to join. I think this board is invaluable and agree it probably does have a lot better information. I know of other MTs who used to be AAMT members who could no longer afford the membership and dropped it. Besides, I think you can visit their website and obtain info that way. I bet the book you purchased is a good resource as well.
AAMT does not only support offshoring, I believe they are responsible for it. Apparently, you don't know that they offer their CMT test and credentials to MTs in India? Nothing very "American" about that.

Also, you will find that most AAMT officers are from MTSOs that offshore work. If you dig deeper, you will find that these MTSOs were pioneers in offshoring work. I belonged years ago, but then I decided they were just a bunch of egomaniacs out for their own glorification.

I can't see that they have done anything positive for the MT business. I think it's gone downhill since AAMT came into the picture.
Like she said, AAMT...
Yes, the AAMT website has a great instruction guide for setting up and maintaining a QA department.  It is the QA Primer 2004.  I used it to establish a QA department for one of the medium transcription companies and they love it. 
Can one sit for the AAMT's CMT

If the AAMT gets their way and gets an apprenticeship program apprvoved, MTs are sunk.  Students will come out of the top 3 schools ready to work, but will have to work for lower line rates as apprentices.  So who do you think the MTSOs will hire? 


The AAMT has applied to the Department of Labor to get this scheme going.  We are sunk unless we oppose it and state that the AAMT does not represent the majority of MTs.  The group that wants to represent us is sending us right down the tubes.  We have to stop them before they go any further with this scheme. 

Did the AAMT ever ask MTs
whether THEY wanted this apprenticeship program? The AAMT wants to pretend it represents MTs. If you want to represent someone, you take the time to do the groundwork to find out what the people in the industry want. You don't sit down and come up with a deal and send it to the Dept. of Labor, letting the Dept. of Labor think that this is what the majority of MTs want, and THEN try to sell it to those who make up the working body.

That is NOT the way to attract support. This is why the AAMT is accused of being elitist. The AAMT does not use the boards to poll working MTs. It tells MTs what they SHOULD want, SHOULD do, SHOULD think.

Ask first, then act. Don't try to sell us some scheme after it's all put together, and don't try to fob it off as something the majority wants. That is dishonest.
That turns the majority of MTs against the AAMT.

When we are making the same wages as the MTS who live in other countries, maybe the AAMT will wake up and feel a little bit of guilt about their part in taking us down.

Thank AAMT for this. nm
AAMT now just AMT?

This is in reference to their now teaching overseas to outsource our work:


I myself do NOT feel comfortable having my information sent overseas, including my name, DOB, and often SSN listed in the demographics screen of each note. I have heard stories of prosecution (or lack there of) by identity theft from people in other countries. Maybe Americans should start boycotting or protesting the healthcare industries that outsource overseas!!!!!!!!!!!!


Re: AAMT BOS, etc.
Thanks for your honest, non-rosy answer about switching from in-house to at-home. We have actually been gradually switching over to a more rigid adherenct to the BOS, but it's been a hard sell for lots of the older docs, who want it their way or no way at all. And some of us older MTs aren't too thrilled with lots of the idiotic, picky-picky stuff the BOS throws at us. So far we've reached a compromise, where we MOSTLY adhere to it, but other things we do the doctors' way to keep them happy. I would have a hard time with with verbatim, because one of our ways IS to do SLIGHT changes in grammar for some of the ESL docs. But they can be only very minor, and the rule of thumb is when in doubt, don't do it. For the most part I sort of like the ESL guys better, because at least they try harder to be understood than many of our English-speakers.

I found your answer very forthright and valuable, and will definitely add it to my "cons" list! :)
Throwing good money after bad, and sending our work to India.
What a waste. You can get all of that free off the internet. Those CEC's you are talking about are worthless and not transferrable.

Is it still the rule with AAMT to spell out WHOLE numbers zero through nine, use numerals for 10 and above or did they change this with the 2nd ed.

Also what is the standard font and size used nationally.

Thanks - Sandra

According to AAMT BOS 2 sm

"With proper nounds, capitalized words, numbers, and abbreviations use a hyphen to join a prefix to a proper name, capitalized word, number or abbreviation, i.e.:


non-Hodgkin-type lymphoma


What is the AAMT guidelines for position of the discharge diagnosis. I have docs who dictate at the beginning of the script and some who dictate it at the end.
I don't think AAMT....
addresses this formatting issue in the BOS.  I just type them like they are dictated, but would like to see standard formats for all reports.  Unfortunately no one has ever asked me!
I have never used them. My Manager agrees with me. AAMT is using the acceptable English language in the BOS. Well I have been doing MT for 20 years. Never needed other MTs to tell me how to do my job.
Right on Sharon!! I'm down here in Thousand Oaks, and was involved deeply with AAMT many years ago - could not believe their insanity on pushing offshoring of patient records without full disclosure to the patient, AND other professional industries such as IT stick together to provide American jobs FIRST. AAMT has not publicly addressed the issue of disclosure to the patient that their record is going offshore. Offshore is here to stay, we can't stop it, and I would not take offense to it if there were some decent common sense checks and balances in place to protect the American worker FIRST. What we see is sheer insanity, stupidity, and corporate greed. Not until we are in deep do-do with a gigantic job loss in all fields, will our government say, duh, what happened?
I think this is bull! I have 4-year medical schooling and now have some experience, and still the AAMT dictates how we take the test. This is why our work is going overseas. Yes, you should have experience but not have to be neice of Einstien! This organization will put MTs out of business, or give away our jobs. They make it so hard and it shouldn't have to be.
Hi Ana... These are all good programs. Good solid training and education is what you will definitely need to get started. Once you get your education though be aware that you don't need the AAMT... They have become more of a joke to most MTs than a source of helpfulness.

Good luck. I think it is a wonderful career.

Like I said, it may not do any good, but I am willing to try, at least then I can say I did.  I totally agree with you on the offshoring being the major problem, but there are also other problems with the organization as well.  I would be happy to see MTs being required to have state licensure like nurses and a lot of techs need. They are asking for responses so I am gonna give em without hesitation. I have a couple of months left on my membership and I am dumping after that if I don't see real progress.

How often does AAMT put a new BOS out? Thanks. nm