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ADHD diagnosis

Posted By: no name on 2006-09-28
In Reply to: An Individual Education Plan - (sm)

When our son was having trouble in school, we brought him to an expert in the field of ADHD, and after hours of testing he made the diagnosis, and, then after that got an IEP at the school. Every state is different in their different programs, but they all have to provide help for children with special needs. Our son was at a college at another state, they had his IEP and went there for two years, came back home and is at another local college and they told him he never should have had a full load of classes and he is given extra time for testing, etc. The school system should have a special needs department, like they do here in my state and you can contact them about extra help for autism, learning disabilities, etc. It makes a big difference in getting the kids all the help they need to succeed and not fail in any of the schools. Also, I believe the Americans with Disabilities web site can help also.

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Our son had a tough time in kindergarten that they labeled as behavior problems, not true, the teacher told me he did well in cleaning the classroom, but horrible time doing his tasks, well that should have turned the light on. Luckily, I have a special needs teacher who is my sister and a speech pathologist who is my sister also. They set up a meeting that we went to for my children with the teachers, got an IEP and got him all of the resource room and extra help he needed. He is on Adderall now, in college and still procrastinates, but is a good kid and not into any trouble. Our other son was reading in the 5th grade at a 2nd grade level and the other town we moved to thought that was okay, so another IEP, the school had to hire a tutor that came to our house during the summer and he was receiving resource room help here also. Some of these teachers cannot be bothered with ADHD because, they don't want to take the time or they think they don't have the "budget" for it. My sister told the head of special needs she did not want to hear the words "no money in the budget" again, because she knows the laws. Get the IEP and they have to by law work with your child. I even was told by a teacher "you don't want to get an IEP or services", it is a waste of time, how wrong that person was. Fight for everything for your child. Americans with Disabilities Act will inform you and if necessary will get you a liaison person to go to these meetings with you. My sons were tested in the school system and also outside and the schools had to pay. Good luck, but get your IEP it is your right as a parent.
I transcribe for two psych's that do 90% ADD/ADHD consults for schools, etc.  There are a lot of "natural" supplements and other recommendations that can be used and made before the trial of a stimulant medication is used.   Especially at that early age.  I also have two nephews that went to one of my docs and both have been on medication and it made the difference between D's and fighting about getting things done to B to A's with getting the work done with no struggle.  One went off when he went to high scholl the other is still on in the eighth grade.  But again testing is the only way to go before doing anything and pick a specialist in that area.  Good luck, again my docs try the natural supplement, LOTS, LOTS of exercise especially across the middle, book called Brain Gym, calcium/magnesium to help sleep, etc.  But again get testing you will feel better knowing that what you are treating.  If your child had diabetes or thyroid problems you wouldn't feel bad about changing diet and exercise and taking some medication if necessary -- true in this case also.    Good luck.  Find a good psychologist/psychiatrist.   Patti

It is just absolutely amazing how many people do not understand ADD/ADHD and how it affects your work.  Our son was told in Kindergarten he had a behavior problem, had him tested and he certainly had ADHD.  The concentration on school work was the most difficult.  You need to get your hubby a book about ADD/ADHD and have him read it.  I went to a seminar about this, by a doctor, last name is Holloway I believe.  I learned so much to help my son.  He could not concentrate, was depressed, had no friends.  After medication trials (the other person is right, meds take 3-4 weeks to show any benefit), he has gone from a D student in college to getting A's and B's, studying criminal justice.  I helped my son as much as possible, never yelled at him.  He would start many projects and finish few.    You do need support from your husband. Give your meds another three weeks.  The expense of gas is probably why your husband is not supportive.  But, if you cannot do the commuting, then find another job working at home.  Get into a routine and schedule and stick to it.   I bet you will do just fine.  You just need encouragment.  Yelling and cursing at you will not help.    Do find a book on line or at a store for your husband to read though about ADD/ADHD, maybe it will sink in and help you too.  Good luck.







ADHD is real! sm
I cannot believe as a teacher and an MT that you think ADHD is bull. I happen to have 2 children who have ADHD. When they were both in kindergarten and could not sit still for even 5 minutes at a time, I told myself, "They're just 5." However, each year, it was the same thing. My children happen to have been seen by at least 6 different physicians, facilities, specialists, psychiatrists, pychologists (as I tried everything to not put them on medicine). They all kept telling me the same thing. Now, I have 2 straight-A students who can stay in their seats and pay attention and get their work done. Yes, I believe it is WAY overdiagnosed; however, I do not believe it is bull. When my daughter was 9 years old, if she did not have her meds for a day, she would need anywhere from 20 to 30 reminders per day to get back to work and pay attention. JMO. No flames intended!
My son is also ADHD, but we brought him home

in third grade and he is now in 10th.  He is no longer medicated.  He was in therapy for 2 years because he was bullied, had horrendous teachers, and had low self-esteem because of various school issues.   He came home 3 days after starting K saying his teacher yelled at the kids.  I should have taken him out then, but didn't think I could do it.  I fought the system for so long and continue to fight it today as I help other parents advocate for their children, but at least now my son isn't caught in the middle.   

Lots of parents bring their kids home for the high school years, at least for a year.  There is no law that says they can't go back for whatever reasons.  I know lots of parents who have homeschooled K-11th grade and then their kids want to go to high school for their senior year.   If your son is failing and miserable why send him to school.  

Parents with ADD/ADHD kids....sm

Does your child's school work well with you on educating them or don't like having to give your child extra attention? 

My 1st grader is having problems staying focused in class with her 24 peers in the room and being asked to stay on task for an hour at a time.  At home she does just fine when things are broken down into 15-20 minute intervals.   The 2 teachers she has don't want to spend extra time with her or eliminate distractions so I've now officially requested an IEP meeting to force this with them.  She had no problems at the same school last year in kindergarten because her teacher had worked with other kids like her in the past and was able to teach her on her level using the techniques recommended.  

We met with her 2 teachers yesterday and they actually had the audacity to suggest that we work extensively with her at home on the areas she's struggling in.  I'm not home schooling this kid just because they don't want to help her stay focused when my taxpayer money is being paid to support the schools and federal laws require they meet her needs.

Interestingly when I had a prior foster child that had ADD this very same school and teachers were very accommodating and worked very well with me on meeting her needs.  Not sure why her current teachers don't want to but we're going to have to work on that.

What about you and your child?  Did you have to go to the extremes of getting an IEP and forcing them to do what they're required to do or did you get immediate cooperation?   I'm not going to put my child on ADD/ADHD medication just because they don't want to deal with it. 

Anyone have ADHD/ADD and do medical transcription?
If so, how do you keep focused?  I have a really hard time with this.  Are you being treated?  If so, what has worked or not worked for you?  TIA
I am so sorry for your diagnosis...
I am reading your post with tears in my eyes. That so hit home with me. I don't want to have my kids growing up thinking our house is "normal" as messy as it is. God bless you and I will pray for you. I'm going to make some changes in my life today.
LOL!!! How about this diagnosis... sm

 And I quote - "History of injury of the poisoning at specified place."  I always have to correct this guy's grammar and tense, but what the heck do you do with something like this?!  I typed it as is and sent it on! 

Yes, I did go to the ER and my diagnosis was:

Complicated migraine.  And I am all better now.


Can I get some opinions before I make an appt with a doctor?  Have been having mild fleeting pains in my llq, probably about a week and a half, sometimes midabdomen, the last couple days it has slowly moved upward, now kind of in my chest but still just a mild dull ache - possibly pulled a muscle?  Don't think it is anything serious but is getting more prominent, any ideas?  Thanks.
So sorry about your diagnosis. sm
Why do you think she spread it around?  Concentrate on your diagnosis, treatment, and healing.
So sorry for your diagnosis..sm
you must be beside yourself. My sympathies!

as for the coworker, I can only comment that you had asked her to let you know, which she did. Perhaps she left off the part about the breast cancer because she did not want to be the one to tell you or let you know that. She wanted your doctor to do that. I really don't think she was doing anything wrong...other than maybe every body knows now. you know how that goes.

secondly, and I have said this before, transcription has HIPAA laws, which are a good thing, but because of a situation just like this one, I truly believe that if a Transcriptionist happens to know the patient involved, she should be able to respectfully decline to do that person's transcription. Just as in choosing a jury for a trial...if the prospective juror knows the person on trial, he should not have to be placed on that case. It would save an awful lot of this type of thing from happening, and everybody being *all up in your business*. Personally, if I received a dictation from someone I knew, I would not even want to do it. What is in those files is none of my business.

that is just my thought though.

I wish you all the best on your recovery. May the Lord hold your hand through it all!
ADHD is bull. Just maybe try to spend some time
working with her (not pushing her but just introducing new things). I am sick to death of the ADD/ADHD diagnosis of kids. I do not believe in it. Some kids DO have a little harder time adjusting to school and again there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Just talk to them every day, help them in any way you can but most importantly be there for them no matter what. It will all work itself out but DO NOT stress yourself out over what some teacher says. Most of the time they are wrong and can be proven wrong. I am a teacher, although I teach adults/teenagers in college and really..... I truly believe elementary teachers try to make it easier on themselves rather than try to work with a child that needs it.
Although I'm sure there are legitimate cases of ADHD and autism out there,
I find it hard to believe that all the kids who are pigeon-holed into either category actually do suffer from either condition. They seem to have become a catch-all excuse for "my kid doesn't pay attention," or "my kid doesn't behave the way I'd like him/her to".

Our society has come up with so many lame excuses for so many things, and tends to need a "name" or a "title" for everything.

Maybe this child is just one who matures later than others, maybe she needs to have someone sit down with her and take the time to help her focus better instead of immediately labeling her with the condition du'jour.
Definitely real. Anyone who believes it isn't can borrow my ADHD kid for a while.
you're wrong, I type for an MD w/ADHD...nm

MT doc to the rescue; ma'am, i think you have ADHD or hypersensitivity. sm
maybe we should prescribe you some meds for that. it will make you perform better on your job and help you greatly. now, i need you to follow up with me weekly so we can draw some labs and keep a check of your status to make sure we don't need to adjust your meds any. that will be $250 for today's consult. yep, and $75 for your RX. oh yeah, and when you come back weekly, expect to pay another $100 per visit plus lab fees. sorry, having a boring, working night. had to spice something up, lol.
Recent diagnosis of MS

Hang in there!  You can overcome a chronic illness and empower yourself.  It ain't easy, but doable.  Been that way for 12 years now.

Just make sure you file the disability with a disability attorney. SS is very well known for denying claims usually twice, then court before they grant it.  This waste many many months and tires us that are already tired, out.  You need all your energy to fight the disease, not for your rights to supplemental income you've paid for all these years. 

Your children will also receive dependent benefits until they reach 18, so again, get an experienced dis. atty.  Hang in there

Also, see what diagnosis code
they used to bill.  Might have been billed as a screening and that's sometimes a no-no as far as getting things paid.  Obviously, you can't lie, but see if she had any symptoms at all that might justify the test.  
sorry for your diagnosis..congratulate you on..sm
your wanting to raise your boys to be good housekeepers. I wish my husband's mother had taught him so many things..just simple little things about the house..like closing cabinet doors. No, truly I understand your thinking and even though I have not been diagnosed with cancer, I think about all the crap I've got stuck out in the shed that I need to get rid of so nobody else has to come along and get rid of all that crap for me. It's a lot to deal with for people who are grieving anyway.
Good luck and just said a prayer for you.
Very sorry to hear of your diagnosis...sm..

Like the other poster said, think positive and go forward from here with what you need to do. 

1.  You asked her to let you know if she typed the report so she did so that's not a violation.  It could be a violation if it wasn't emailed through an encrypted email program but I wouldn't make a stink out of that.

2.  She should know the rules and should know it's a major violation to blab to the department so if she has any brains in her head, she'll keep her piehole closed.  I wouldn't worry about it right now or jump to conclusions, but if you do later hear that others in the department know, I would report your suspicions to her supervisor. 

Are there any steps you can take at this point to keep it under lock and key so no one else finds can read your report in that department?

Beyond that, I wouldn't worry about it and would focus on licking this temporary setback.  I wouldn't worry about what's going through her head and why she isn't contacting you anymore.  She sounds flakey.  Focus on you and your family.

My sympathy as well on your diagnosis

But as a radiology MT you know that the treatment for breast cancer has advanced considerably and many women go on to live long, healthy lives after breast cancer treatment. So focus on the positive for the now.

As far as your coworker, I understand the desire to know the results of your tests, but yes, she should have told you to ask your doctor for the results instead of sending them to you.  Then, if she gave the results to anyone else, the HIPAA violation would be entirely on her part.  I don't know if you have spoken to her since she sent you the report, but it is possible that she was either caught sending the email or she talked to someone about it and was reprimanded for the HIPAA violation, therefore she is now afraid to talk to you at all because she does not want to risk getting fired. (Just one possible scenario.)

Your best course of action is just not to worry about the opinion of your coworkers. You have a job to do, and that is to concentrate on getting well.  Don't let this distract you.  Focus on what is important, and "don't sweat the small stuff".

Good luck!

Sorry to hear of your diagnosis
Unfortunately this happens when you have your tests done at the same facility where you are a patient.  I am also a product of feeling like "every knows".  It is not fair to you, but I feel in hindsight now I would never choose to go where I worked to have testing done unless I didn't mind that the people I worked with know of my personal health information.  It is a common thing in hospitals and physicians' offices for people to snoop and want to know your business and unfortunately, this isn't always a positive thing.  If you need other tests I would suggest trying another institution and also mention this to the physicians who care for you, but they may say the same thing - that you should NOT have asked a former coworker to let you know of your results.  Only the physicians have a right to that information and the right to relay that to you.  I fortunately did not have breast cancer, but my incident stemmed from having a mammogram.  My boss posed as a friend in the mammogram department the day I had the lumpectomy.  Yeah right, some "friend".  She was just being nosey and wanting to know when I would be returning to work because the typing was getting backed up.  Again in hindsight, I will never step foot in that hospital again for anything in regards to my health.  I go to a different hospital/radiology department from now on.    Good luck with your health and best wishes to a resolution to your anxiety.
There are at least three objective tests now to show ADHD objectively...sm
PET scans, TOVA, quantitative EEG's and the UK just came up with a new one that has to do with the eye following a red light. So much for your bull theory. Maybe you should get out the chair once in a while.
proper diagnosis!!! for my exhusband too...LOL...sm
but it isn't really funny and I'm not really laughing.....it was him or my sanity, as I posted below, and my sanity won out but you have put the proper diagnosis on it because I've been saying for 20 years, he was/is a passive aggressive.....always pointing the finger, placing blame and never looking inside himself as maybe it's him who is/was the problem......(also a triple virgo male *LOL* sun, moon, rising-ascendant). 
Spelling out abbreviations in the diagnosis
when told specifically not to is not following instructions.
I'm in nursing school and doing a paper on ADHD...here's what I found...what an eyeopener...

Peter Jensen, who is head of psychiatry at Columbia:  At least half the children who fit the criteria for ADHD are not diagnosed. Half of the kids diagnosed are not treated (parents get too much flak for "drugging their kids"). ADHD is in 3-5% of population, found in some third world countries too though their survival skills are different from ours so testing doesn't always translate into another culture.  Taking sugar and food additives out of diet (i.e. Feingold diet) only makes a difference for 3 months- then no difference (placebo effect). Interestingly, if ADHD is not treated, those kids have a much higher risk of accidents, drug and other substance abuse, drop out of school, and being arrested for a felony. Oh and one more note for all the folks who say it's from being overstimulated...we don't have a TV in our house and my boy still has ADHD - it's genetic. Plus after an appropriate evaluation by a pediatrician who specializes in ADHD, a social worker and an audiologist, he has been treated with medication and behavior modification since second grade. In the challenge program in every subject possible now (middle school) including Algebra II. Reads at post college level. 

Bottom line is 4 years old is too early to make a diagnosis. Keep her home another year and let her develop at her own rate, but keep an eye on how she is able to compensate at school later. As I said, ADHD is a genetic disease and it could be possible for her to have it. It could also be possible that you tend to be negative towards whatever your ex says, so don't let that sink your daughter's ship...

Thanks to both of you...verbatim account. Has to be as dictated unless in diagnosis.

We do use dx for diagnosis, and all the short cuts expanders
I am on XANAX. I did not think my clinical diagnosis would be on report.
When given this diagnosis, the first thing you want to know is how far it has spread. It can mean life or death. My doctor was OOT for two more days and I was panicking. I needed to know if it was abnormal so I could begin thinking of what the future held. I am not thinking RATIONALLY!!!!!
A good place to get reasonable, objective info regarding ADHD is CHADD

just keep it in mind for the future. www.chad.org. Also there are some informative videos at coolnurse.com. About 10 videos regarding ADHD. you will have do a search on the site but it's worth it. If it's in her father's family it could be possible that she has it, and if so, you needed to get educated about it and be her advocate. School systems respond very well to confident, well prepared parents who come in to meet for a plan that allows for reasonable accomodations. I've been doing it for years.

Last week I've been diagnosis with Multiple sclerosis and I did sm
go to file my disability and found out what I would get paid if approve, I am working 7  days a week, 24 hours a day off and on.  My husband is deceased and I have two kids to raise and one must do what they have to do.
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You should type them. I usually type them in parentheses following the diagnosis.