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If the dictators could speak proper English and enunciate clearly,

Posted By: speak Engrish on 2005-07-12
In Reply to: I think the majority of mistakes are - no holds barred

if the supervisors didn't bounce MTs off of QA in less than a week and then gripe at everyone about leaving blanks, if the account specs were clearly delineated, if the pay was worth a darn, if the QA feedback was constructive and consistent, then maybe the MTs would care about quality and loyalty. 

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    Either you know proper English or you don't. It's not something you turn on and off. nm
    ...your E-mails have to have proper English and punctuation.
    Am I alone?
    I have a theory about grammar, proper English going the way of
    the dinosaur.  I am beginning to think that with all the ESLs who cannot speak English, that everyone else has totally forgotten how to conjugate verbs, have no idea what sentence syntax means, understand the relationships of nouns to verbs, etc.  I am wondering how long it will take before no one makes much sense and it really bothers me.  I see paragraphs where truly, it is difficult to tell exactly what is being said, what relates to what.  I long for the days when I had an ESL who wanted me to correct her, even to the point of completely reworking her sentences to sound better. 
    Sorry, but my account goes by proper English grammar rules
    not that made-up garbage from the AAMT.
    At least most of them speak English as a first language, eh.
    Except the Francophones/Quebecois. Plus, they're not undercutting us on wages.

    Pas DE probleme!
    to dictate if you cannot speak English.
    Sorry to gripe about this, as I know it comes with this industry, but I just transcribed (ha) a doctor, who sounded like this......

    ditdada..ditditdadada..ummm, aaahh, shimaprazole, shinequapam, ditdootoday, patient no feel no good...ditditdazow. I quit.
    Most of them can't speak correct English,
    much less type it.
    Tad immature? - does not speak English.
    Blodnee, you speak English, not American....sm

    and answer the question....Where did you're predecessors/folks come from...or don'tcha know that either?  Cat 

    Well it appears we all speak American English...

    There are thousands of different dialects of American English....from North to South or East to West.  Come on folks, we listen for a living....Please calm your little buns down...."American" is not a dialect....Vernacular is different everywhere.  When asked to "cut out the lights" my kids looked at me for an answer to which I replied "turn off the light switch".      Cat


    Theodore Roosevelt on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN


    "In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."


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    Maybe people in India who can't speak English? nm
    I spent about a month in India and they do speak English but sometimes I had a hard time
    understanding the way they pronounced the words so I would ask them to spell it.
    But can they enunciate? nm
    Not always. Tongue stumblers. New dictators. Speedy and lazy dictators.
    ?? Bad dictators are bad dictators regardless of their mother language.

    wonder when people will just get over it and do what they can and move on. 

    Proper education? LOL
    This is not a regulated or licensed industry. There is no "proper education".

    MT schools give a beginner level of knowledge and maybe a little touch on doing dictation but there's no "proper education" to be had here.

    I've done this 25 years. I've never had "proper education". I was trained on the job. I was an EMT when I started my first MT job.

    And please, stop comparing MTs and nurses like attorneys and paralegals. Those ARE regulated industries. Certification is necessary and a degree necessary.

    Get over yourself. ROFL
    and maybe some proper spelling
    Proper way to write
    There was a post with the proper
    That's all.  Nothing real juicy or anything. 
    I would spell it out; don't know what is proper

    what's so funny about proper transcription? nm
    How about constructing some proper sentences?
    med-surg floor. It's not a proper name. NM
    people who are attracted to something that is not proper.
    Instincts are not always in one's best interest and to follow those interests doesn't make it right.
    Who decides proper? If these two cowboys sm
    lived alone with each other and didn't get married and pretend they weren't gay they still wouldn't be proper, right? They couldn't win for losing your book,right? It's views like your that push gay kids to committ suicide rather than live in YOUR world and deny how they were born. And they are BORN that way and here's how I know-who would CHOOSE such a behavior knowing how half of society would shun them??? Who would CHOOSE to be ridiculed and made fun of? Who would CHOOSE to be judged the rest of their lives not on who they are but who they live with???? I know a lot of women married to creeps who I don't judge because of their husbands, judgement by association is cowardly. Why don't you get to know PEOPLE and judge them accordingly based on WHO they are not WHAT they are??
    Proper way to submit resignation?
    How much information does one have to include in a resignation? Just the date effective? Do you need to give the reasons in the resignation?  TIA!
    proper diagnosis!!! for my exhusband too...LOL...sm
    but it isn't really funny and I'm not really laughing.....it was him or my sanity, as I posted below, and my sanity won out but you have put the proper diagnosis on it because I've been saying for 20 years, he was/is a passive aggressive.....always pointing the finger, placing blame and never looking inside himself as maybe it's him who is/was the problem......(also a triple virgo male *LOL* sun, moon, rising-ascendant). 
    Proper nouns get capitalized...sm
    I know, I know, they all have their opinion; but as far as I know, the correct way is if they don't say the "Proper" name of the area then it is just a common noun, which does not get capitalized.

    St. Mary's Emergency Room
    The emergency Room

    West Central Ear, Nose, and Throat Clinic
    Referred to an ear, nose, and throat clinic.

    The account specifics might say different.

    Here's one for you:

    When you are typing your resume, and you want to say you have experience in clinic notes, do we capitalize Clinic Notes? I'm seeing it both ways. I would say "no" but want to make sure.

    Well, this is America and the proper spelling is check.
    they don't move the post to proper board....sm

    the moderators may remove a post/thread but they don't replace it on the proper board - that would be your own thing to do. 

    HTH (hope that helps!) 

    I agree with capitalizing proper nouns only. sm
    That is the proper way in the English language. Unfortunately, that may not be what BOS recommends. :(
    Poor sound quality, looking up proper names, sm
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    If you have your own account and no longer want to do it, how long is proper notice?
    I have a very small account that is way too much aggravation.  They have abbreviated things so much and nickeled and dimed me to death.  Plus the dictation is bad.  I'm making almost no money.  I am thinking of telling them they need to find someone else.  How long a period of time (notice) should I give them before I'm done?
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    is NOT the official language. There is no official language. True, the majority speak English as their first language but it is not OUR language yet.

    Officially maybe it isn't but the majority as you say are English. I just think some people who come here should take the initiative to learn English more than they do.
    I think I get fustrated because I have a Mexican who lives nearby and came over to the U.S., as many do, illegal. She has a green card to work and all but she isn't a citizen. Well she will not study her English more and can't hardly communicate. It fustrates me because she needs to make more of an effort to learn English where not only can she be understood more but she can understand us more. She can speak English just barely.
    That is where a lot of my fustration comes from with foreign dialect. A lot of Mexicans come over here and think we should learn Spanish to communicate with them. Well if they want to live in the U.S. they can learn English. Some of them do learn and you can communicate with them. But some have a chip on their shoulder that they are going to speak Spanish and we can just adapt to it or the government should make provisions for it. Well we did not ask them to come here so learn it or leave.
    True. There are so many dialects here in the U.S. I am from the south, and I went up north and they talk entirely different. Just different accents, different ways of saying things. They looked at me like where in the heck did you come from.
    But with the ESLs I just get plain fustrated because I feel like they aren't making a effort to speak where I can understand them sometimes. And some of them do make the effort. They do and you can tell. They are trying. But those others really chap my *ss.

    I thought all foreign MD's had to pass the ECFMG (Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates).  Maybe this just verifies their information insofar as medical school, etc. and clinical skills assessment.  I thought they had to pass an English exam, also. 

    I agree -- there are too many people walking around not knowing or using the English language.  If they want to live here, they should at least like our country and not fly our flag upside down, etc. AND SPEAK OUR LANGUAGE.  I have no problem with foreigners coming over here.  My only problem is with foreigners coming over here and not respecting our language and culture.



    English yes, others no.
    Hey, speak for yourself (sm)
    My accounts are 95% ESL. I love them. I can do them. It's job security, thanks to the MTs who can't or won't do them. As long as I can hear them and the technical quality is there, I welcome the ESL challenge!

    I'm lost as to why doctors can not just speak more clearly. I know it is possible, I have many doctors who do it. I am only 25, and I am going to be gray by the time I am 30.

    My god. i know that its hard to have so many patients, its also hard to transcribe if you cant speak clearly, for the doctors that can talk more fluent thank you very much.
    I would not speak

    or respond to any job posting that used a hotmail address.  ANY reputable company will have professional email set up that uses their company name, such as   recruiter@reputablecompany.com. 

    Did he speak to you about it?
    Speak for yourself
    You cannot speak for everyone!!